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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Mystiquefia: 8:02pm On Jun 06, 2020
Ojukwucriminal:


Seun where u take see this unproffessional, uncivilized administrative sell-out? It is alarming, propesterous and shameful that a mod or whatever he is cannot keep confidential the private details of nairalanders. If e fit dey yarn opata like this and them never Give am money 9 be say he go sell your company 2 second give rivals because of change oh, na this kind people dey leak secret for armed robbers to kom rob bank oh.
This is an abberation of job ethics!!

True words!! if i were the owner of nairaland, i would be wary of Afam. And if anything goes wrong with my company, he would be my number 1 suspect. It was very low for him to have made public omon's private details to rebut his arguments. let's hope he doesn't delete this one too..

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by omonnakoda: 8:08pm On Jun 06, 2020
NoIgboSoundTueh:

It must be very tough on you. Not easy being a Mod
Imagine having to hide under vague word because you dont want to offend any party. Or what's the meaning of this cryptic message now
He is human and made a mistake,he allowed himself to be psyched but he lost the window of opportunity to be honourable. We see this happen to the likes of Femi Adeshina and others before him.
Yoruba say o wa Laara re o n ba e lo.
When he is alone with himself be knows he did wrong and should apologize but won't. That remains with him and is sufficient for me.
I have endured frivolous bans for my views and expect more in future . I won't stop being what I am.
They allow Ibos run riot talking about Yoruba Muslims but when you call them Ibohomosexual they ban you?

Are they not the ones that enjoy homosexual porn the most?
Did I make that up?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by nku5: 8:57pm On Jun 06, 2020
omonnakoda:
We will remind you forever

Keep crying and sucking your thumb then. Who gives a shyte grin

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by omonnakoda: 9:01pm On Jun 06, 2020
nku5:


Keep crying and sucking your thumb then. Who gives a shyte grin

Who is crying now?
Who is dancing Egwu Eke now
Who is the frustratednexile talking about who has been cloned now
Who was wailing last week that they were TOTALLY LEFT out in the loan approved this week?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by WuzzyTech: 9:04pm On Jun 06, 2020
Afam4eva:

This is a sick thing to say. Out of all the important things in life, it's my comment that you can remember like it was yesterday. Do you have some weird sexual fetishes towards comments or what? The comment is still hanging around someone on this thread, so feel free to jerk off on it. You can also print it and put in your bedroom

grin grin grin Hahahahahhahahahha savage reply grin cheesy

Very very sick comment for real.

Gosh the savagery of this reply tho cheesy
If I remember correctly I warned you about that boy sanchez01 and his partner eze2000 like a month ago haha now you done see some weird sexual fetishes today cheesy

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jun 06, 2020
So Chino’s comments and his other monikers are now used by the Yoruba’s to judge sane Igbos. As well as Alhharem a Yoruba PDP decampee made same comments. I know about this said thread, and what transpired before the comments we're made. Maybe the Igbos too need to start digging up old threads to expose Yoruba hypocrisy.
Afam despite his comment can be forgiven, because no matter what he said here, he can never be a staunch tribalist as Myndd44. At least under his modship, same as Bigfrancis the site had some level of decorum, but today it has finally gone to the dogs and awaiting burial.

Omonnakoda ( the worst tribalist in the history of nairaland from 2006 till date) and his fanboy know their intentions with this thread, and it's to whip sentiments for 2023, of which they supported worst things against the Igbos under this government.
Enjoy your popularity on Nairaland and win medals here, because the country is bigger than this site. Those who achieved with nairaland politics will not be begging for 30k BMC stipend.
Naira land is a waste of efforts. Those who know, can tell. Only Tonye and others can understand.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:45pm On Jun 06, 2020
Igboid:
I think I already did a job on this thread.

Anyone interested should go through pazienza posts from page 48 here.

While Yorubas would continue peddling this propaganda, is beyond me.

This.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:46pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


What hate do you speak of?

Was SW not offered the Speaker of house position by GEJ and PDP, only for Tinubu to strike a deal with Tambuwal, who defected to APC and won the position of speaker against Mulikat, with SW APC/ACN house members all unanimously voting for Tambuwal, just to spite GEJ?

Tell me who are the hateful ones here? Why are you lots here twisting and distorting narratives to wipe up sentiments ?

What wrong did GEJ ever do to you guys. Right from calling him a drunken fisherman, you proceeded to humiliating in the house rep, by ensuring his chosen candidate, who happens to be one of you, lost the nomination to a Fulani man whom your leaders happily supported. Then when you had succeeded in removing your sister from becoming the house speaker, you went around to start campaigning against GEJ, accusing him of marginalizing your region, by citing the fact that you have no top ranked reps in his government, when in truth, it was your plan not to have one, so that you can use it to justify your campaign of hate against him.

You went about calling this man unprintable names, all because of your innate hate.
And you are angry that people are angry with your cries of marginalization against him?

Those spinning this thread out of context are shameless.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:49pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


The hate was there already.
If it wasn't, why would Tinubu and Yoruba delegates just out of need to spite GEJ and turn the Yoruba populace against him, decide to work for the failure of Mulikat?

What do you call that?

You think it's not right for people to question your cries of lack of representation in the GEJ government, when none of you blames Tinubu for his role in the fall of Mulikat, and the rise of Tambuwal, just for his own selfish interests?

The more you guys try to spin this narrative the more I expose your evil intent.

See them. wink

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:51pm On Jun 06, 2020
Igboid:


See them.

You didn't want the post, you rather help your Gambari master( Tambuwal) have it, and left GEJ with egg on his face.
And you wonder why Igbos are angry that your elders came out crying for marginalization few years later, rather than hold Tinubu and ACN responsible?

See this.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:54pm On Jun 06, 2020
sleekdot:
We didnt want 5th columnists like Mulikat Akande

We also reject any Greek gift from Jonathan

The same Jonathan APC has won his Senatorial district.

I have never seen a more clueless president

Seems all former PDP presidents now have APC senators ruling their districts

This is Yorubas admitting they rejected mulikat.

But they wonder why people including Igbos are angry they treacherously came back to accuse GEJ of scheming them out of top 6 positions in the land.

These lots are shadowy, I tell you.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Nexus25(f): 9:54pm On Jun 06, 2020
Afam4eva is a resident tribalist, his bigotry is crested in bold. Big brother naija thread exposed him last year

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 9:57pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Non of those positions are higher than the speaker of the house that PDP zoned to SW.

So the question is: Why did Tinubu and SW house members conspire to humiliate PDP and GEJ chosen candidate Mulikat, just to spite GEJ and Spin the story of marginalization later on?
If Tinubu could convince Tambuwal to dump PDP for APC, what made it impossible to convince Mulikat to do same, after they must have helped her become the Speaker first and foremost, and then help her decamp to APC fold?

If it's not because Tinubu and SW house members were eager to create an avenue with which they could justify their later campaign of mariginalization against GEJ?

Conscience is an open wound only truth would heal.
The above is the truth the Yorubas are running away from. Deciding instead to play victims when they were treacherous scheming lots who deliberately decided to schemes Mulikat and PDP out power.Not minding that Mulikat failure meant they would have no representation in the top 5 position of the government.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:02pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nexus25:
Afam4eva is a resident tribalist, his bigotry is crested in bold. Big brother naija thread exposed him last year

Not more tribalist than the Yoruba Muslim called Mynd44.
But you don't seem to have any problem with him.

Moreover Afam position on this thread was a rational one. Even the Yoruba resident tribalist Aljharem who was a PDP apologist agreed then.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:10pm On Jun 06, 2020
Kagawa10:


Look at this one. Who's mulikat? Considering the political heavy weight men in SW, only non popular mulikat could suffice for the SW bah? You're mad and you have none to tell you that.

Above is the evidence that rejection of Mulikat was a Yoruba Muslims APC consensus.
They all prefered Tambuwal to Mulikat, only to turn back few years later and started blaming GEJ for their absence in the top 5 positions of the country.
Talk of eating ones cake and having it.
Of course, Afam and even the Yorubas in PDP (Aljharem being a representative) were right in asking them to meet Tinubu and APC SW for their posts.
It was Tinubu and SW APC with active Yoruba support that decided that Tambuwal was a better candidate than Mulikat as seen in Yoruba posts I quoted above.
How then can these treacherous ones turn around to cast Ndiigbo in the mould of demons for saying the obvious?

What sort of Lagos-Ibadan express way distortion is this? Do you people take us for fools?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:15pm On Jun 06, 2020
0monnak0da:

Your problem is that you thrive on lies and falsehood.

The thread is about people that went to Jonathan.

They went to Jonathan to complain about APPOINTMENTS under the Executive arm which is in his purview.

The Speaker is an elective role and not under Jonathan's control so stop mixing apples and oranges.


Jonathan as president is head of the executive and he did not see fit to appoint any Yoruba person to any worthwhile position that he had power to appoint.

Did Buhari appoint Saraki or Dogara


Imagine a news still very fresh. This one was trying to already distort it. This is their stock in trade, turning truth on its head.
Those lots went to GEJ to complain for top 5 positions, but this one was already spinning it. A people who can't stand for the truth.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Nexus25(f): 10:18pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Not more tribalist than the Yoruba Muslim called Mynd44.
But you don't seem to have any problem with him.

Moreover Afam position on this thread was a rational one. Even the Yoruba resident tribalist Aljharem who was a PDP apologist agreed then.


I don't understand your point. Any empirical evidence to buttress you allegation of Mynd being a tribalist?

Afam can't deny what I wrote up especially on bbnaija thread. I confronted him several times before deactivating the moniker. Again on this thread! He had to delete his comment to save his face. He's not just a tribalist but a coward.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:26pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:



PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan met with a delegation of the Yoruba Council of Elders (YCE), led by Major-General Adeyinka Adebayo (retd), in the State House, on Thursday, as the leaders complained about being left out in the top six posts in the country.[b]

Now, like I keep saying, Yorubas must come to understand that the era they distorted narratives out of their innate hateful hearts against Ndiigbo and go Scot free is gone. Social media is the worst thing that ever happened to the Lagos-Ibadan media of Igbo hate and lies.



This was me highlighting the purpose of Yoruba elders visit to GEJ that Yorubas were already trying to spin.

It was about Yoruba absence in top 6 positions in the government, which Mulikat would ha e solved but Tinubu and Yoruba APC decided that running PDP out of SW was more important than having a Yoruba woman in top 6 position of the country power hierarchy, and so worked with PDP rebel Tambuwal to defeat Mulikat in the house, in return Tambuawal would later defect to APC and formed part of the cabal that ousted GEJ in 2015.

This is what Yorubas call "suffersticated" politics. Working against your own(Mulikat) to enthrone a fulani(Tambuwal), and then later on come to GEJ and cry about being schemed out of top 6 positions. Then turn around and demonize those who told you to go to SW APC and Tinubu and ask them why Mulikat was rejected by them.

You think this is the era of Lagos-Ibadan express propaganda machine when you had uncheckmated powers to distort narratives to cover your bad ways and cast Ndiigbo in bad light.
If you like keep bringing up this thread 1 million times, I would be here to squash it with the truth a million times.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:30pm On Jun 06, 2020
Nexus25:



I don't understand your point. Any empirical evidence to buttress you allegation of Mynd being a tribalist?

Afam can't deny what I wrote up especially on bbnaija thread. I confronted him several times before deactivating the moniker. Again on this thread! He had to delete his comment to save his face. He's not just a tribalist but a coward.

He keeps banning Igbo posters here and always allowing anti Igbo threads thrive here , while anti Yoruba ones are quickly deleted.

Nothing Afam4eva wrote on this thread is tribalist.
He should not have deleted his post. He allowed Yorubas here armtwist him for stating the obvious

Telling Yorubas to go to APC and Tinubu for thier top 6post considering how Tinubu and Sw APC chose Tambuwal over Mulikat was a rational and neutral statement no one should have to apologize for.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:40pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:
Now, let's look at the top six positions Yoruba delegates complained about being left out of, to GEJ

1.President
2.Vice President
3.Senate President
4.Speaker of the House of Representatives
5.Chief Justice of the Federation (CJF)
6.Deputy Senate President
7.Deputy Speaker, House of Representatives

The above is the power rankings in the Nigerian presidential system.

Yorubas were offered number 4 by PDP with GEJ support. Igbos were offered number 6.

Tinubu out of his innate Yoruba politics of hate, which they package as "suffersticated" politics, decided to single handedly renact Afonja-Alimi part 2, by supporting a Fulani man, Tambuwal, to defeat his Yoruba sister Mulikat.
The whole Yoruba race kept quiet and were cheering on their new Afonja.
Now few years down the line, they all started crying about being schemed out of GEJ government.

People of the world, can you lots judge this case fairly?

This was how things panned out in 2011, for those who seek to know.
What some people are doing on this thread is to distort history out of context and play the role of victims while casting Igbos in the role of demons, when the nothing could have been farther from the truth.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:44pm On Jun 06, 2020
Igboid:
Bottoline is that this thread have been tackled and dealt with.
With Yorubas exposed for who they are.

You were zoned speaker position by PDP , despite your region being mostly an ACN controlled zone.

Yoruba ACN members teamed up with PDP rebels and overturned Mulikat, GEJ anointed candidate,allowing Tambuwal to emerge, because Tinubu and Yoruba ACN were more interested in clipping GEJ wings to smoothen things for themselves and APC in the future.

They sacrificed Mulikat and supported Tambuwal.

Then years later, their elders rather than go to Tinubu and cry about lack of Yoruba presence in top six positions, they came to GEJ crying.

News came to NL, and some Igbos here told them to go to Tinubu and ACN and ask for their speaker position.
In this context, how did Ndiigbo do wrong? How did we support Yoruba marginalization because we told them the truth.
Why exactly are Yorubas trying to emotionally spin this and present Igbos/GEJ and not Tinubu and ACN Yorubas, as villians.

What sort of evil manipulation of narratives is this?


This is a decent summary of this thread.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:45pm On Jun 06, 2020
Igboid:
As much as Ndiigbo hated APC, we were still supporting OUK in APC for senate presidency and Nkiruka Onyejocha(APC) for speaker, much to the anger of Yorubas here, who in their wicked minds believed SE should be totally marginalized from those posts. Because our region is a PDP zone. But no Igbo cried when Mulikat almost the only PDP senator in ACN controlled SW was chosen for speaker by PDP hierarchy.

If APC hierarchy chose Nkiruka Onyejocha for speaker, only for Igbo PDP members to liase with a rebel APC house member to scuttle Nkiru, with Igbos support just to spite Buhari and run around with Igbo marginalization agenda.

Then I don't think it would be unfair for Yorubas to ask Ndiigbo to go to PDP and ask them for our own posts, if we later come to Buhari crying about being left out of key posts.

Context matters. Words and actions lose meaning if not placed in proper context.

What Yorubas have done with this thread was to strip it of its context and thereafter, manipulate narratives in pure Yoruba fashion, to present Ndiigbo in bad light, to justify their own innate Igbophobia.


This post put things in proper context.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Iamgrey5(m): 10:53pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


He keeps banning Igbo posters here and always allowing anti Igbo threads thrive here , while anti Yoruba ones are quickly deleted.

Nothing Afam4eva wrote on this thread is tribalist.
He should not have deleted his post. He allowed Yorubas here armtwist him for stating the obvious

Telling Yorubas to go to APC and Tinubu for thier top 6post considering how Tinubu and Sw APC chose Tambuwal over Mulikat was a rational and neutral statement no one should have to apologize for.
Stop being clever by half

Tambual himself said that he would have won without the votes of ACN and he is right because the results showed that much

He said Tinubu had to support him in the last minute when he realized that Yorubas were primed to lose the minority leader position to other parties. He realized that ACN votes won't give Mukila the speaker position.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/my-transactions-with-tinubu-tambuwal/

Meanwhile both the deputy senate and deputy house speaker were igbo.

Wasn't that a clear enough sign of a igbo deal with Tambual?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 10:59pm On Jun 06, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Stop be clever by half

Tambual himself said that he would have won without the votes of ACN and he is right because the results showed that much

He said Tinubu had to support him in the last minute when he realized that Yorubas were primed to lose the minority leader position to other parties.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/my-transactions-with-tinubu-tambuwal/

Meanwhile both the deputy senate and deputy house speaker were igbo.

Tambuwal was a PDP rebel who was already on his way to APC . Of course he would have said anything to justify his emergence and absolve his benefactor Tinubu of any blame.

It was a public knowledge that Tinubu and SW APC were going up against PDP choice candidate since they wanted full control of SW .

Its not about what Tinubu said . Its about what happened. Did Tinubu campaign for and support Muikat candidature as zoned by PDP? Tambuwal joined the CPC/ACN meger thereafter, he deceives no one with words. His actions speak louder.

Without SW APC votes, Buhari would have still emerged president in 2015, can we now also say Tinubu and Yorubas played no role in Buhari emergence in 2015?

You are the one who needs to stop being clever by half.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/tinubu-afenifere-who-anchors-south-west-interests/amp/

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Iamgrey5(m): 11:03pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Tambuwal was a PDP rebel who was already on his way to APC . Of course he would have said anything to justify his emergence and absolve his benefactor Tinubu of any blame.

It was a public knowledge that Tinubu and SW APC were going up against PDP choice candidate since they wanted full control of SW .

Its not about what Tinubu said . Its about what happened. Did Tinubu campaign for and support Muikat candidature as zoned by PDP?
Please stop shifting goal post.

Check the interview, it was in 2018

As at the time Tambual gave this interview, he was already back in PDP.

Tambul said that Tinubu already agreed to Mulika but saw she had no chance and ACN could lose from all angles because Minority leader could either have gone to CPC or ANPP.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by pazienza(m): 11:07pm On Jun 06, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Please stop shifting goal post.

Check the interview, it was in 2018

As at the time Tambual gave this interview, he was already back in PDP.

Tambul said that Tinubu already agreed to Mulika but saw she had no chance and ACN could lose on all angle because Minority leader could either have gone to CPC or ANPP.

Mere words not matched by actions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/tinubu-afenifere-who-anchors-south-west-interests/amp/

He would say anything to absolve his benefactors from any blame.

If Tambuwal and the rebel PDP were not being wooed by Tinubu, the PDP zoning would have stood with Mulikat emergence.

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by omonnakoda: 11:13pm On Jun 06, 2020
The point is not Mulika

Stop the diversion

The point is that Eboes were gloating, were exultant and jubilant in a very insulting way at the complaints of the Yoruba elders .

THAT is the point that Eboes want to see Yoruba humiliated because of their ancient hatred from their civil war loss and bitterness

That is the koko
Stop all, this Mulika exposition and dissertation

You were fed this bitterness with your breast milk and you all carry this impotent fantasy that one day you will get e en.

The problem is you have no idea who you are playing this chess game with

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Iamgrey5(m): 11:13pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Tambuwal was a PDP rebel who was already on his way to APC . Of course he would have said anything to justify his emergence and absolve his benefactor Tinubu of any blame.

It was a public knowledge that Tinubu and SW APC were going up against PDP choice candidate since they wanted full control of SW .

Its not about what Tinubu said . Its about what happened. Did Tinubu campaign for and support Muikat candidature as zoned by PDP? Tambuwal joined the CPC/ACN meger thereafter, he deceives no one with words. His actions speak louder.

Without SW APC votes, Buhari would have still emerged president in 2015, can we now also say Tinubu and Yorubas played no role in Buhari emergence in 2015?

You are the one who needs to stop being clever by half.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/tinubu-afenifere-who-anchors-south-west-interests/amp/
Clever by half as usual

Bruv, even in the source you provided full of fictions, two things caught my eyes

Emeka ihioda was already campaigning for Tambual from the onset, rallying representatives from the East who were the largest voting bloc in the PDP together with South South representatives.

Secondly, the total reps of ACN were not up to 50

Tambual had 232 votes, while Mukilat had 90 votes. Please can you tell me what 50 votes would have done for Mukila here?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by Iamgrey5(m): 11:16pm On Jun 06, 2020
pazienza:


Mere words not matched by actions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/tinubu-afenifere-who-anchors-south-west-interests/amp/

He would say anything to absolve his benefactors from any blame.

If Tambuwal and the rebel PDP were not being wooed by Tinubu, the PDP zoning would have stood with Mulikat emergence.
Ihehoda who ran and won imo governorship election under PDP last year before being removed by court is also a PDP rebel abi?

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Re: Yoruba Marginalization: Elders Met Jonathan To Complain - SMH by omonnakoda: 11:19pm On Jun 06, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Clever by half as usual

Bruv, even in the source you provided full of fictions, two things caught my eyes

Emeka ihioda was already campaigning for Tambual from the onset, rallying representatives from the East who were the largest voting bloc in the PDP together with South south.

Secondly, the total reps of ACN who didn't control the total numbers of rep in Southwest were not up to 50

Tambual had 232 votes, while Mukilat had 90 votes. Please can you tell me what 50 votes would do for Mukila here?


Guy do not engage them in side talk

The tactic is tired when they are losing the argument they start another one on a totally irrelevant front.

Is this thread about Mulika?Before you know it you will find your self talking about Champions League.

That is how Afam4eva tried to shift discussion to the meaning of my name.

The same tired "where is Osinbajo "?tactic

The issue here is ,whether real or not, some elders went to complain to Goodluck Goodluck Jonathan about marginalisation and some Ibos thought such marginalisation if it was happening was good and worth celebrating

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