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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:49am On Jan 08, 2023
adenine02:


If you are one of those that believe Jesus is one represented in the picture below, I wish you good luck


I only asked certain questions.


Why not answer instead of wasting time??
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by wirinet(m): 10:50am On Jan 08, 2023
Abi1985:
Since the time I was born, I have never seen a pastor carry gun and force person to give offerings or tithe.

So why are churches getting bad rep? No be by force to give, if you do not want to give, then do not give. After all, na your own money, so it is up to you to give or not to give. If you feel pressure or you are reluctant to give, please do not give at all.

If they talk sow a seed of 10,0000 naira or 50 naira, and you do not have or you do not want to give, do not stress yourself at all. Give what you can give easily and cheerful and if you do not want to, then don't.

Pastor can use words to persuade someone to give. At the end of the day, it is up to individuals to decide to give or not. So leave the Pastors and let them be.

If Pastor fly private jet, well good for him. If he use body guards, good for him. The body guards are getting paid and the private jet is not free.

Churches and pastors are getting bad rep because they use blackmail, threats and all sorts of scam tactics to get poor and desperate people to give them their hard earned money. They threaten members with hell fire, misfortune and tragedies if they don't pay tithes and offerings. When it comes to tithes and offerings Nigerian pastors become Malachians instead of Christians, as christ never preached the gospels according to tithes and offerings.
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:50am On Jan 08, 2023
donbenie:
That is what you think..
The White man brought their Christianity to you and that is a fact..


How is Christianity for the white. ? Who is the white?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Piptocoin: 10:51am On Jan 08, 2023
Righthussle:



Hide your face in shame abeg. Pulpit bandit. Why use armed body guards and bulletproof cars when the white man's god you call " almighty " can protect you ?

Heaven is this , heaven is that, there are many mansions there, you'll enjoy everlasting life when you die yet you no wan die go enjoy the everlasting life. Unknown gunmen want to send you to that your beautiful heaven quick, you run go buy bulletproof car. Who you dey fool ? I no blame una. Soon everybody will know the truth that religion is built on lies. Religion is a scam.

You don't give offerings or tithes. It is not your money. It is not like you did any of these to warrant your lamentation. Why then are you wailing over a pastor having bodyguards as if you read it somewhere in the Bible that having bodyguards is forbidden for pastors?

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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by CodeTemplar: 10:52am On Jan 08, 2023
Righthussle:



Hide your face in shame abeg. Pulpit bandit. Why use armed body guards and bulletproof cars when the white man's god you call " almighty " can protect you ?

Heaven is this , heaven is that, there are many mansions there, you'll enjoy everlasting life when you die yet you no wan die go enjoy the everlasting life. Unknown gunmen want to send you to that your beautiful heaven quick, you run go buy bulletproof car. Who you dey fool ? I no blame una. Soon everybody will know the truth that religion is built on lies. Religion is a scam.
The sword Peter and the other disciples were moving with, was it meant for orange and sugar cane?

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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by donbenie(m): 10:57am On Jan 08, 2023
HellVictorinho6:



How is Christianity for the white. ? Who is the white?
You don't know who be White Men ?
Abi that one na a topic of debate?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by wirinet(m): 10:58am On Jan 08, 2023
agbeabiodu:
Giving is both spiritual and natural law. It's like sowing a seed and waiting for an harvest...if you don't sow anything, don't expect any harvest.
False doctrine. Although it is good to give, giving does not mean to your church or pastor. Giving includes giving love, support, care and compassion. It also means giving to those in need.

Giving like your sowing seed example is not actually giving. It's more like an investment. You are giving in anticipation of profit. That's not what christ preached.

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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 10:59am On Jan 08, 2023
smiley
wirinet:

False doctrine. Although it is good to give, giving does not mean to your church or pastor. Giving includes giving love, support, care and compassion. It also means giving to those in need.

Giving like your sowing seed example is not actually giving. It's more like an investment. You are giving in anticipation of profit. That's not what christ preached.
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Terabyteck(m): 10:59am On Jan 08, 2023
Spicycat:


White man has his own God, black man also has his own God, even Caucasians have their own God, it's colonial impositions that makes you think otherwise cheesy grin grin

Then the God of the Whiteman is the Superior God.
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:00am On Jan 08, 2023
wirinet:

False doctrine. Although it is good to give, giving does not mean to your church or pastor. Giving includes giving love, support, care and compassion. It also means giving to those in need.

Giving like your sowing seed example is not actually giving. It's more like an investment. You are giving in anticipation of profit. That's not what christ preached.

Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:05am On Jan 08, 2023
We have civil rights n obligations..
So Christians also have theirs

Christians rights...is to enjoy heavenly protection n also d promises of God
Christian obligations is to pay ur tithes n offerings..
Dats d ones I know..
If u join ogboni,shey u nogo drop tithes n offerings to d devil grin...try not to do ur part n c wat d devil will do to u...
Every religion has its rules,u must abide by dem
Thinking of pastors wen 1chop ur tithes n offerings na useless thinking. If dey don't follow d directions of God,d punishment is on dem,not d followers
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:05am On Jan 08, 2023
ok

Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Nobody: 11:05am On Jan 08, 2023
Opexzy:
This your ideology can be adapted for yahoo boys doing romance scam too, they didn't force their victims with guns and all, they only say a lot of sweet things and plenty of lies. Can we agree that they are not criminals too @Abi1985

At least yahoo boys hack businesses bank accounts and steal millions, romance scam is build with the intention of deceiving from the beginning e.g Hushpuppi is a notorious one. Pastors do not hack computer and many don't force anyone with the intend of deceiving others. If you feel pressured or you feel you are being deceived- please by all means do not give and stop going to that church. Go to a different church and read the Bible
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:05am On Jan 08, 2023
The gift of God is free, cannot be bought. His blessings are on all.
elonize:
We have civil rights n obligations..
So Christians also have theirs

Christians rights...is to enjoy heavenly protection n also d promises of God
Christian obligations is to pay ur tithes n offerings..
Dats d ones I know..
If u join ogboni,shey u nogo drop tithes n offerings to d devil grin...try not to do ur part n c wat d devil will do to u...
Every religion has its rules,u must abide by dem
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:07am On Jan 08, 2023
SeriouslySense:
The gift of God is free, cannot be bought. His blessings are on all.
wat do u mean by bought?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by zhirkovrado(m): 11:08am On Jan 08, 2023
The earlier they know this, the better it becomes.
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:08am On Jan 08, 2023
elonize:
wat do u mean by bought?

You said Christians are obligated to give, they are not, they should give freely, on their own accord.

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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:11am On Jan 08, 2023
donbenie:
You don't know who be White Men ?
Abi that one na a topic of debate?


According to certain websites,white generally refers to having European origin.


Does Christianity mean something that belongs originally to people having European origin??


What makes Christianity so?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:15am On Jan 08, 2023
Spicycat:


White man has his own God, black man also has his own God, even Caucasians have their own God, it's colonial impositions that makes you think otherwise cheesy grin grin


What imposition??
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:16am On Jan 08, 2023
SeriouslySense:


You said Christians are obligated to give, they are not, they should give freely, on their own accord.
it iis..it is.if u dont have,den u can't..but if u do n u dont give..wahala..
Its wrong...
Tithing is an obligation.
Raising of seeds is to carry out a financial responsibility because running a church is em. ...how do dey speak dat English .like it requires finance .if u dont av dat amount being called..u can give d little u av,or dont give at all until u feel its time .
D offering of sacrifices dat d devil uses,wer does he get d idea frm.
D ppo worshipping d devil don't argue with him wen e ask,dey dont say d oga 1chop their money, or him na fraudster grin.dem know who dem dey talk to cheesy
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by donbenie(m): 11:16am On Jan 08, 2023
HellVictorinho6:



According to certain websites,white generally refers to having European origin.


Does Christianity mean something that belongs originally to people having European origin??


What makes Christianity so?
Christianity was propagated and spread by the White man..
Without the adoption and spread of Christianity by the Roman Empire,it would have been consigned to the dust heap of another goatherder's fairytale..
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:17am On Jan 08, 2023
gift2xl:



Most of the pastor's themselves are not givers.
dat 1 nor concern u..just do urs...na dem na God go deal with
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by yemzone(m): 11:18am On Jan 08, 2023
It is not by force to give tithes or offering, but they are needed for the growth and development of the church.
Don't give tithes and offering when the pastor is cajoling or threatening the members to give their tithes.
Also, don't give when you notice that the pastor is feeding large from your tithes and offering ( while you're lacking)
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Mrmed: 11:18am On Jan 08, 2023
[quote author=Abi1985 post=119813609]Since the time I was born, I have never seen a pastor carry gun and force person to give offerings or tithe.

So why are churches getting bad rep? No be by force to give, if you do not want to give, then do not give. After all, na your own money, so it is up to you to give or not to give. If you feel pressure or you are reluctant to give, please do not give at all.

If they talk sow a seed of 10,0000 naira or 50 naira, and you do not have or you do not want to give, do not stress yourself at all. Give what you can give easily and cheerful and if you do not want to, then don't.

Pastor can use words to persuade someone to give. At the end of the day, it is up to individuals to decide to give or not. So leave the Pastors and let them be.

If Pastor fly private jet, well good for him. If he use body guards, good for him. The body guards are getting paid and the private jet is not free.

Has a christain, many of us know the advantages or spiritual reward of giving tithe and offering in church
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:18am On Jan 08, 2023
donbenie:
Christianity was propagated and spread by the White man..
Without the adoption and spread of Christianity by the Roman Empire,it would have been consigned to the dust heap of another goatherder's fairytale..

You are exaggerating.


How is the permission to preach by one person a proof that Christianity belongs to the white?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:19am On Jan 08, 2023
We don't need to run a building to build a church, we dont need buildings, but if we need buildings, then the people should give only freely not under obligation, they should give without feeling any frustration.

The church i currently attend, has never ask me for money, i even suggested i should give, but they wont even collect. Because i can see their aim is in kingdom building not money collection and they all work and have busy Lives, they are not depending on church money for their sustenance.


Getting the curse of money out of the way, encourages genuine growth in The Life in Christ and also increases love amongst the children of God.

elonize:
it iis..it is.if u dont have,den u can't..but if u do n u dont give..wahala..
Its wrong...
Tithing is an obligation.
Raising of seeds is to carry out a financial responsibility because running a church is em. ...how do dey speak dat English .like it requires finance .if u dont av dat amount being called..u can give d little u av,or dont give at all until u feel its time .
D offering of sacrifices dat d devil uses,wer does he get d idea frm.
D ppo worshipping d devil don't argue with him wen e ask,dey dont say d oga 1chop their money, or him na fraudster grin.dem know who dem dey talk to cheesy
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:20am On Jan 08, 2023
Doyou2019:


This is why Jehovah's Witnesses are some of the best Christians in Nigeria.
cheesy :Dwetin u drink
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Segzy19: 11:20am On Jan 08, 2023
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Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by donbenie(m): 11:22am On Jan 08, 2023
HellVictorinho6:


You are exaggerating.


How is the permission to preach by one person a proof that Christianity belongs to the white?
Lol..
I'm not here to teach you history..
Christians were persecuted and exterminated to almost extinction..
Until a Roman Emperor adopted it as the state religion..
Do your research..
Or why do you think the main offshoot of the original church is called the Roman Catholic Church?
Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by elonize(m): 11:22am On Jan 08, 2023
SeriouslySense:
We don't need to run a building to build a church, we dont need buildings, but if we need buildings, then the people should give only freely not under obligation, they should give without feeling any frustration.

Deuteronomy 14:22-29...n Malachi .

Den Jesus den reaffirmed dis...give to Caesar's wat is Caesar's n to God,wat is God..
So what belongs to God,tithes n offerings.
Let me ask u,so wat belongs God?

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