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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Nolevel666: 8:09am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:

No
If you want to practice in USA or UK then go study medicine there if you can afford it.
If you want our subsidized medical education then be ready to give back to the society.

You no really get sense
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by clinician2x: 8:10am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:


its a way of ensuring enough doctors to subsidise medical education. Only for the doctors to get trained cheaply and then abandon their benefactor which are the Nigerian people.... Dont be deceived Doctors are highly paid.

Its simple. You want to practice in UK get trained there afterall its where you want to work. Let those who want to stay get trained using subsidy and contribute to the society

And the leaders continue their oversea trip for healthcare abi.

With the number of idiots in this country, there's no hope of progress. Anybody that wants to succeed in life should japa. Competing with these idiots will drag person down.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by lordprogress: 8:10am On Jan 22, 2023
Kobonaire4:



Do as sane countries do and raise the tax to gdp ratio and remove subsides on petrol and power...so that there would be more money for the medicos to stay.
The problem with that is will the money be used for the right purpose, the same currupt thiefs that has destroyed this country, what makes you think they are going change that their mentality.
If they remove the subsidy and we buy fuel at maybe 500# per litre fine with out changing that thieving mentality it's useless.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by clinician2x: 8:12am On Jan 22, 2023
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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Nobody: 8:15am On Jan 22, 2023
Aldol:

What then should all the unemployed or grossly underemployed do then? Should they now carry arms against the populace just because the government failed to provide jobs for them. Yes agreed that doctors may not be paid as their colleagues in Usa, Uk and the likes. But you swore an oath to protect lives . That should come first, the citizens always sympathize with doctors and urge govt to up doctors pay. The issue with our Nigerian doctors is what I call long throat and that has becloud the patriotism in them.

Well, at the end, things have to change.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by clinician2x: 8:15am On Jan 22, 2023
yemmit90:
Although doctors are not well paid and their working condition cannot be compare with those in Europe and Ameica, I will suggest government should enact a law that will mandate any trained doctor within Nigeria educational system to practice for at least 10 years before he/she will be eligible to seek employment in another system or country. This is the best way to make they appreciate or useful to a system that subsidise their training for them. Government too should try as much as possible to increase doctors pays and improve their working condition.

Medicine science is an highly expensive department, if not that government subsidise it heavily, many of these doctors won't be able to pay the tuition fee, let alone other equipments needed for ther practicals.

Virtually all graduates are underpaid in Nigeria, and alot of us are still coping one way or the other. Government is useless, but we should not allow our grievances to cause another grave problem in the future. If all competent doctors and nurses leaves, then what is the hope of a common man who need urgent medical attention. What is the usefulness of spending billions of tax payers money to train them and not useful to the same system?




Government should not enact law that will stop them from oversea medical trip but use the funds to invest in our hospitals.

Govt should rather enact laws to stop people from going to where they will be appreciated.

A resident doctor here earns 250k a month but 6m a month in U.K.

You are a fool.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by afrodoc2: 8:18am On Jan 22, 2023
clinician2x:


And the leaders continue their oversea trip for healthcare abi.

With the number of idiots in this country, there's no hope of progress. Anybody that wants to succeed in life should japa. Competing with these idiots will drag person down.

Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by clinician2x: 8:19am On Jan 22, 2023
Ventura1:
I think it is unfair actions by the Doctors, considering the fact that they enjoy subsidized training to become a medical practitioners. Their earnings is also not too poor considering the overall standard in Nigeria now.

That you see another family doing well doesn't mean you should disown yours.

It is not unfair that the government is using funds that would have developed the health sector to go on overseas medical trip.

It is unfair that doctors are going to where they will be appreciated.

You are a fool.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by clinician2x: 8:21am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:

No
If you want to practice in USA or UK then go study medicine there if you can afford it.
If you want our subsidized medical education then be ready to give back to the society.

If the government wants oversea medical care, where should they go and govern to receive it?

You are a fool?

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by afrodoc2: 8:22am On Jan 22, 2023
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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Oleash: 8:23am On Jan 22, 2023
11BC medicine right. Yet people get angry that the 11BC doctors are leaving. It shouldn't be a big deal then. The president seeks healthcare abroad, politicians come abroad to be managed by teams including Nigerian doctors, yet the soft targets receive the bashing.
okuta007:


let them leave, all this noise is so irritating to the eyes to read- as if leaving nigeria is a guarantee for success - let me tell you, 80% of them won’t even pass their certification exam in 10 years and will end up becoming biology avd physics teachers while trying each year to pass - i have seen many like that in California- dem think say with that their 11 BC medicine they studied in Nigerian Universities is enough to be recognized as a doctor in a place like USA? maybe in Malawi or Gabon - no developed society will recognize them as doctors when they step of the plane, except they go back to school spending years and pass the certification exams in those countries and after paper matter and unending bills and expense of living abroad drag them left and right ….. before they know what is happening - many will end up in professions far from medicine in the end -

Abroad is not Nigeria where you have the luxury to be a student - do nothing and be catered for as our parents did for us in Nigeria - here you work to pay bills as you go to school and only very few people will survive that lifestyle adjustment abroad because many will get frustrated and some may end up becoming mortuary attendant or package delivery agents just to pay the bills and eventually get tired of paying ihuge amount of money trying to get certified without success - the grass is always greener on the other side


in their eyes abroad is all milk and honey - they are all welcome to taste it, Amen

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by afrodoc2: 8:25am On Jan 22, 2023
Government subsidized everybody's tertiary education but only doctors are slaves that must be forced to stay back and suffer while other Nigerians can leave the country.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Youngzedd(m): 8:25am On Jan 22, 2023
If Peter Obi doesn't win, more than 85% of health workers and tech guys will flee.

When skilled Nigerians leave after the election, that's if APC retain power.

The economy will collapse within 4 years.

Just live well because if you fall ill, you will be one step away from the other side. Take this election serious, your life and that of the upcoming generations depend on it.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Goodoldays(m): 8:26am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:
Ungrateful lots
Unpatriotic folks
They just game the Nigerian government.
They got cheap medical education and will rather use it for another country.....why didnt they go to study the medidcine in europe or america....they wont because they cant afford it.
The didnt complain about ill equiped medical schools and teaching hospitals while training only to jump on the next plane to countries where they couldnt afford to study Medicine.....
Before anyone says rubbish....... doctors that want to practice in USA should go there for their studies if they can afford it not take advantage of the subsidized medical education in Nigeria and thereafter run away......Government subsidized it so many people can be trained to be useful to the country.





Unpatriotic because they refuse their destiny to be destroyed by your unpatriotic leaders.The patriotism should first start from your leaders and their citizens will follow.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by onyxo76(m): 8:32am On Jan 22, 2023
Splitmind:
We need to start arresting doctors who make known their intentions to leave. This unpatriotic and foolish attitude must be stopped immediately!

so they will start to treat patients from prison yard abi
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by okuta007: 8:34am On Jan 22, 2023
Oleash:
11BC medicine right. Yet people get angry that the 11BC doctors are leaving. I obliterated my exams, got a great job in a world class hospital in a G7 country (rated top 5 globally in its specialty). I got a relocation package to cover my flight, visa, accomodation, miscellaneous and was picked up in style at the airport. I can request even the most advanced CT scan and get the images in minutes. My first salary was more than my 3 years salary in Nigeria. You don't value us, others do. It shouldn't be a big deal we are leaving. The president seeks healthcare abroad, politicians come abroad to be managed by teams including Nigerian doctors, yet the soft targets receive the bashing.


success doesn’t scream - it smiles in silent accomplishment and contentment

for you to be screaming this way shows you are lying and bitter that life has handed you a curve … please stop lying and face your mortuary attendant job in some hell hole fireign country you now find yourself and stop disturbing us with japa story - japa quietly and go for your dreams - you don’t need noise to make it
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Brushstrokes20: 8:35am On Jan 22, 2023
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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by rafcrown(m): 8:38am On Jan 22, 2023
Doctors are planning to "Japa" like
Nurses
Teachers
Engineers
Bankers.
Japaism is real.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by ogwumgbe: 8:38am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:
Ungrateful lots
Unpatriotic folks
They just game the Nigerian government.
They got cheap medical education and will rather use it for another country.....why didnt they go to study the medidcine in europe or america....they wont because they cant afford it.
The didnt complain about ill equiped medical schools and teaching hospitals while training only to jump on the next plane to countries where they couldnt afford to study Medicine.....
Before anyone says rubbish....... doctors that want to practice in USA should go there for their studies if they can afford it not take advantage of the subsidized medical education in Nigeria and thereafter run away......Government subsidized it so many people can be trained to be useful to the country.

You are an idiot, you are the ungrateful lot, you loot, live large, junket the whole world on holidays while refusing to develop your country and you want intellectuals you subject to life of misery to keep licking your stinking ass serving you. Bleep off you demon

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Oleash: 8:41am On Jan 22, 2023
Failures can't believe others succeeded. Hence you think everyone else do the job you do.
okuta007:



success doesn’t scream - it smiles in silent accomplishment and contentment

for you to be screaming this way shows you are lying and bitter that life has handed you a curve … please stop lying and face your mortuary attendant job in some hell hole fireign country you now find yourself and stop disturbing us with japa story - japa quietly and go for your dreams - you don’t need noise to make it

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Seekhimnow: 8:41am On Jan 22, 2023
Well since government don't want to treat them well. Abia doctors are on strike as we speak.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 8:43am On Jan 22, 2023
addexx:


You just dey cap like village goat. With a population of over 200m in the poverty capital of the world with increasing shortage of health workers , you still expect medical education not to be subsidized. The way you compare our education with that of stable economies with good education and health infrastructure is electrocuting. Check the facilities, equipment, manpower, standard of living, student welfare and quality of training, minimum wage, renumeration packages and gdp in these countries then you'll understand why medical education is expensive. Even at that their students have access to student loans to make things easy. Nothing of such is obtainable here.
Do you know the number of demons you have to fight to become a doctor. The only good thing I can say about our system here is that we have good educators and zealous students. Every other thing is management.
Now you become a doctor earning less than peanuts and working ungodly hours handling 200 patients a day in dead facilities with epileptic health-care system and a government that does not give a pig sh#t about your welfare and survival. On top of that dey decide to owe you for months.

Haba until dey die?. And you are there blaming doctors for leaving instead of facing the facilitators of our wrecked healthcare.

God how people reason these days embarassed cry undecided
he is an absolute mad man, rat has devour all the brain tissue in his medulla oblongata.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Ex0rrcist: 8:50am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:
Ungrateful lots
Unpatriotic folks
They just game the Nigerian government.
They got cheap medical education and will rather use it for another country.....why didnt they go to study the medidcine in europe or america....they wont because they cant afford it.
The didnt complain about ill equiped medical schools and teaching hospitals while training only to jump on the next plane to countries where they couldnt afford to study Medicine.....
Before anyone says rubbish....... doctors that want to practice in USA should go there for their studies if they can afford it not take advantage of the subsidized medical education in Nigeria and thereafter run away......Government subsidized it so many people can be trained to be useful to the country.
That line of reasoning is somehow to me, because there are some European countries that have subsidized school fee too for their medicine students. These students don't finish school then travel abroad to go and practice, because whenever they are done there is a likelihood of them getting a proper job in that same country. If you can check some countries in Europe that have subsidized education, you will understand what I'm talking about. So that line of reasoning honestly doesn't work, the fault still lies with the government there's nothing bad in having a subsidized school fee.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by JBArokonkwo1(m): 8:56am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:
Ungrateful lots
Unpatriotic folks
They just game the Nigerian government.
They got cheap medical education and will rather use it for another country.....why didnt they go to study the medidcine in europe or america....they wont because they cant afford it.
The didnt complain about ill equiped medical schools and teaching hospitals while training only to jump on the next plane to countries where they couldnt afford to study Medicine.....
Before anyone says rubbish....... doctors that want to practice in USA should go there for their studies if they can afford it not take advantage of the subsidized medical education in Nigeria and thereafter run away......Government subsidized it so many people can be trained to be useful to the country.



Let me guess,u are a tinubu or Atiku supporter?

This is their supporters pattern of thinking. Perpetual slaves....

So because medical education in nija is RELATIVELY cheap,Drs should stay back and suffer? Their right to good life should be taken away? Did they sign any bond to remain in nija after school?


You are just a poor and bitter person both in pocket and brain....you should be avoiding yourself

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by JBArokonkwo1(m): 9:00am On Jan 22, 2023
ican2020:
Thanks to poor leadership

Meanwhile I am not a hospital freak and I hate going close to anywhere they call hospital

Jesus is taken care of my family and I

We tried to eat more of our local natural foods and avoid junk almost all the times

Stop slicing your vegetables at the market place, it’s dangerous and it kills. Watch your vegetables at home properly before slicing them and keep your self and your surroundings clean at all times

You want to live long, accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, not as the preachers want you to do but purely as the Bible says, cast all your worries to him and he will make everything beautiful in his own time

Eat right and love yourself & family, love Jesus Christ and your neighbors you will be healthy and will have no need for chemical agents

If u want to live long,accept jesus christ?

So what about all the traditional worshippers in my village that are almost 100?

This one na just another obsessed religious person with little or no brain cells left

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Bigseven(m): 9:01am On Jan 22, 2023
How can I be a medical doctor at age 36 now. Is it worth it
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Venerable612(m): 9:01am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:
Ungrateful lots
Unpatriotic folks
They just game the Nigerian government.
They got cheap medical education and will rather use it for another country.....why didnt they go to study the medidcine in europe or america....they wont because they cant afford it.
The didnt complain about ill equiped medical schools and teaching hospitals while training only to jump on the next plane to countries where they couldnt afford to study Medicine.....
Before anyone says rubbish....... doctors that want to practice in USA should go there for their studies if they can afford it not take advantage of the subsidized medical education in Nigeria and thereafter run away......Government subsidized it so many people can be trained to be useful to the country.

True, and I quite agree with your analysis - but the same government ought to provide good benefits to the Doctors when they qualify.

It seems many of them, like Lawyers, struggle after graduating.

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by emapeteum(m): 9:02am On Jan 22, 2023
PresidentAtiku:
what if government decides to govern well? Why not ask for that rather than blaming the innocent doctors as if you have them scholarship
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What the guy said is correct. Are Doctors the only ones facing an economic crisis? The most patriotic among them are the ones in the military
They got cheap education and they want to be treated like their western counterpart.
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by Apokalupsis: 9:03am On Jan 22, 2023
barbstee:
And many of them actually studied the course for almost free

Will they have been able to study medicine abroad with the same fees they used without scholarship?

But all they are after now is money, money and money. I'm not saying they shouldn't be well taken care of . But they should also remember that this same country made them who they are.

But an average Nigerian isn't patriotic

Are you dense? ALMOST FREE? Where?

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Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by JBArokonkwo1(m): 9:04am On Jan 22, 2023
Rolings:


its a way of ensuring enough doctors to subsidise medical education. Only for the doctors to get trained cheaply and then abandon their benefactor which are the Nigerian people.... Dont be deceived Doctors are highly paid.

Its simple. You want to practice in UK get trained there afterall its where you want to work. Let those who want to stay get trained using subsidy and contribute to the society

Drs are highly paid....u call 280k for a new resident dr highly paid?
Like I said earlier,u are a poor and person both in pocket and mind...this post u just made just confirmed it
Re: 85% Doctors Planning To Leave Nigeria, Says NARD by emapeteum(m): 9:05am On Jan 22, 2023
Venerable612:


True, and I quite agree with your analysis - but the same government ought to provide good benefits to the Doctors when they qualify.

It seems many of them, like Lawyers, struggle after graduating.
The Drs are still better off than other professionals in Nigeria. These Drs migrating would end up regretting one day when the Nigerian economy bounces back. The migration of Drs to the west would get to its peak and the Drs would be paid peanuts with excess time at duty; coupled with litigation and high taxation.

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