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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:56pm On Feb 25, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

How long did it take for the thief on the cross to get saved since you've got no clue on what to say to the dying man? undecided
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni the dying man begged Jesus to be saved just as any dying man can pray to God for repentance so this has nothing to do with what Kumuyi has to say to a dying man.

Stop fooling around! cheesy
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:04pm On Feb 25, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni the dying man begged Jesus to be saved just as any dying man can pray to God for repentance so this has nothing to do with what Kumuyi has to say to a dying man.

Stop fooling around! cheesy

Since the dying man is neither a Jew nor a member of your organisation what hope are you going to give him? cheesy
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Kobojunkie: 9:16pm On Feb 25, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
[i]"And Jesus said unto him, [color=red]Verily I say unto thee,
Figuratively speaking, being born of water means being born again by the Word of God. The Words that Jesus speaks are spirit and life.
Figuratively speaking! The words Jesus Christ spoke are no more than meaningless gibberish which you consider spirit and life to mean, whereas your pastors and mogs, the money they amass for themselves as well as their kingsdoms here on earth are what amounts to reality for you religious lot? undecided

So to you Jesus Christ is nothing but a miserable liar whose words count for absolutely nothing? WOW! undecided

Hopefully heaven for you is also of the figurative because as Jesus Christ made clear, without knowing Him you will never see God. undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:24pm On Feb 25, 2023
Kobojunkie:


Figuratively speaking! The words Jesus Christ spoke are no more than meaningless gibberish which you consider spirit and life to mean, whereas your pastors and mogs, the money they amass for themselves as well as their kingsdoms here on earth are what amounts to reality for you religious lot? undecided

So to you Jesus Christ is nothing but a miserable liar whose words count for absolutely nothing? WOW! undecided

Hopefully heaven for you is also of the figurative because as Jesus Christ made clear, without knowing Him you will never see God. undecided

If you like get baptised in River Jordan as much as you want but if you don't allow the word of God to convict and convert you will only be a wet sinner. Repent and believe the gospel.
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Jackanda1(m): 9:27pm On Feb 25, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said that those who confess with their mouth will be saved by Him so you can confess with your mouth until the day you die and salvation will never be yours. Hence, this isn't a command from God but a suggestion taken out of context to fool the already gullible masses into submitting to the foolishness of men. undecided
I have never seen a fellow who is so confused....smh

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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:29pm On Feb 25, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

Since the dying man is neither a Jew nor a member of your organisation what hope are you going to give him? cheesy

God's word said:

For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. Romans 2:14-15

So conscience will save him as long as he never killed his conscience, he doesn't need Kumuyi to preach anything to him because he will not accept what he doesn't understand and 3 minutes is not enough for anyone to understand the Good News about God's Kingdom. That's why God promised to remember the UNRIGHTEOUS those who don't know the righteousness of God but lived by conscience! Matthew 7:12wink
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Kobojunkie: 9:43pm On Feb 25, 2023
Jackanda1:
I have never seen a fellow who is so confused....smh
Look who's talking! undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:56pm On Feb 25, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


God's word said:

For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. Romans 2:14-15

So conscience will save him as long as he never killed his conscience, he doesn't need Kumuyi to preach anything to him because he will not accept what he doesn't understand and 3 minutes is not enough for anyone to understand the Good News about God's Kingdom. That's why God promised to remember the UNRIGHTEOUS those who don't know the righteousness of God but lived by conscience! Matthew 7:12wink

If that is the case why do you go about disturbing people's peace when you know you have no gospel to preach? If you can't change a dying man's destiny by your preaching within 3 minutes then you should know that all you efforts and works are in vain since you cannot offer what you don't have. If both of you are destined for the same destination you will neither be in a place to extend a helping hand to the perishing nor care for the dying. Jesus is merciful and Jesus would save. embarassed
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:57pm On Feb 25, 2023
Kobojunkie:


Look who's talking! undecided

The earlier you smell the coffee the better it will be. smiley
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Kobojunkie: 9:59pm On Feb 25, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
The earlier you smell the coffee the better it will be. smiley
You already dismissed Jesus Christ as a deluded liar in order to score one for your pastors and mogs whose words you worship instead, what more is there for you and I to discuss? undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Feb 25, 2023
OLAADEGBU:


If that is the case why do you go about disturbing people's peace when you know you have no gospel to preach? If you can't change a dying man's destiny by your preaching within 3 minutes then you should know that all you efforts and works are in vain since you cannot offer what you don't have. If both of you are destined for the same destination you will neither be in a place to extend a helping hand to the perishing nor care for the dying. Jesus is merciful and Jesus would save. embarassed

Kumuyi pikin! cheesy

So Jesus sent his disciples out in search of those who have just three minutes to live shey? cheesy

Chai! Kumuyi don finish you o!
Because we are to make disciples who will in turn preach and teach others in their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Revelations 22:17; Romans 10:13-15} not those that will die in the next three minutes! cheesy
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:27pm On Feb 25, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Kumuyi pikin! cheesy

So Jesus sent his disciples out in search of those who have just three minutes to live shey? cheesy

Chai! Kumuyi don finish you o!
Because we are to make disciples who will in turn preach and teach others in their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Revelations 22:17; Romans 10:13-15} not those that will die in the next three minutes! cheesy

Tomorrow, he'll claim that his people are also preaching the Goodnews
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:34pm On Feb 25, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Kumuyi pikin! cheesy

So Jesus sent his disciples out in search of those who have just three minutes to live shey? cheesy

Chai! Kumuyi don finish you o!
Because we are to make disciples who will in turn preach and teach others in their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Revelations 22:17; Romans 10:13-15} not those that will die in the next three minutes! cheesy

Jesus reserved one of the 'Woes' for your organisation:

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).

The fact that you cannot minister to the dying man in 3 minutes you do not have any mandate to minister to anyone at all because you will only end up making them twice worse candidates of hell. angry
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:41pm On Feb 25, 2023
Kobojunkie:


You already dismissed Jesus Christ as a deluded liar in order to score one for your pastors and mogs whose words you worship instead, what more is there for you and I to discuss? undecided

"God forbid: Yea, let God be true, but every man a liar..." (Romans 3:4a).

The earlier you believe the gospel truth the better it will be for where you will spend your eternity. Repent and believe the gospel. smiley
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:56pm On Feb 25, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Tomorrow, he'll claim that his people are also preaching the Goodnews

Have you got Goodnews for a man who only has 3 minutes to live? undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29am On Feb 26, 2023
You're a confirmed fool!

Did Jesus preached to those thieves or each of them decides on what to do with the things they've heard in the past?

Open your heart Kumuyi pikin and learn!
Those two thieves both had knowledge about Jesus before that very day that you can decipher through their comments so it was what they choose to do in that condition that matters not that Jesus preached anything to them while they're dying.
So go and tell Kumuyi that he's not a sound teacher because he packed fufu in your head making you the dumbest of religionists around you! cheesy

OLAADEGBU:


Jesus reserved one of the 'Woes' for your organisation:

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).

The fact that you cannot minister to the dying man in 3 minutes you do not have any mandate to minister to anyone at all because you will only end up making them twice worse candidates of hell. angry
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:38am On Feb 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're a confirmed fool!

Did Jesus preached to those thieves or each of them decides on what to do with the things they've heard in the past?

Open your heart Kumuyi pikin and learn!
Those two thieves both had knowledge about Jesus before that very day that you can decipher through their comments so it was what they choose to do in that condition that matters not that Jesus preached anything to them while they're dying.
So go and tell Kumuyi that he's not a sound teacher because he packed fufu in your head making you the dumbest of religionists around you! cheesy

Read what Jesus says you are in danger of:

"But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22).

So what would you tell a dying man who has no knowledge of Jesus within 3 minutes to save his soul? undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:51am On Feb 26, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

So what would you tell a dying man who has no knowledge of Jesus within 3 minutes to save his soul? undecided
What did Jesus (not Kumuyi) taught you in that instance?
I quoted God's word but you ignored it.
Those who never heard God's word before will be remembered if they lived by conscience {Romans 2:14-15} it's only those who have heard and ignored that will be judged for rejecting the Good News {John 3:16-18} at that time what a dying man who doesn't believe in God needs is not preaching because his brains can't comprehend within three minutes what he supposed to have learned through careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditatio, fervent prayer and associating with fellow believers.
So if he dies in his ignorance but he lived all his life as a prisoner of conscience Jesus will raise him from the dead.
WHY?
Because he lived by the golden rule:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

That's the truth as found in the Bible not as your daddy Kumuyi thinks! wink
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:55am On Feb 26, 2023
OLAADEGBU:


Read what Jesus says you are in danger of:

"But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22).

So what would you tell a dying man who has no knowledge of Jesus within 3 minutes to save his soul? undecided

And who made you my brother? cheesy

You that you preferred an alligator's visit than that of preachers?

Omo you're not my brother in any way!

Moreover apostle Paul called Galatians "FOOLISH" for turning away from the faith in Christ Jesus {Galatians 3:1} so if you're arguing blindly over what Jesus taught yet calling the one reminding you "devil" simply because you want to support a useless old man claiming man of God surely you're a FOOL. smiley
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:58am On Feb 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

What did Jesus (not Kumuyi) taught you in that instance?
I quoted God's word but you ignored it.
Those who never heard God's word before will be remembered if they lived by conscience {Romans 2:14-15} it's only those who have heard and ignored that will be judged for rejecting the Good News {John 3:16-18} at that time what a dying man who doesn't believe in God needs is not preaching because his brains can't comprehend within three minutes what he supposed to have learned through careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditatio, fervent prayer and associating with fellow believers.
So if he dies in his ignorance but he lived all his life as a prisoner of conscience Jesus will raise him from the dead.
WHY?
Because he lived by the golden rule:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

That's the truth as found in the Bible not as your daddy Kumuyi thinks! wink

It is clearly proven that you've got nothing to offer the dying man within 3 minutes so stop flogging a dead horse with your semantics. You need help before you begin to preach to others. Hear and read what the Lord wants from you at this juncture: Repent and believe the gospel!

Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Feb 26, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

It is clearly proven that you've got nothing to offer the dying man within 3 minutes so stop flogging a dead horse with your semantics. You need help before you begin to preach to others. Hear and read what the Lord wants from you at this juncture: Repent and believe the gospel!

Now this is the full meaning of the word "REPENT"

To feel pain, sorrow, or regret for what one has done or omitted to do; the cause for repenting may be indicated with "of".

So you don't even know the meaning of what you're typing.

Someone must have known what he's supposed to do either through reading or hearing it in the past just as those two thieves did not that someone hasn't heard anything before he is living justly from his mental disposition then you walk up to him and ask him to repent. Ọmọ repent of what?

Dude Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing! cheesy
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:10am On Feb 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


And who made you my brother? cheesy

You that you preferred an alligator's visit than that of preachers?

Omo you're not my brother in any way!

Moreover apostle Paul called Galatians "FOOLISH" for turning away from the faith in Christ Jesus {Galatians 3:1} so if you're arguing blindly over what Jesus taught yet calling the one reminding you "devil" simply because you want to support a useless old man claiming man of God surely you're a FOOL. smiley

"And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" (1 Peter 4:18).

It is good that you realise that you are not a child of God by admitting that you are not my brother. If my brother would be in danger of hell fire for calling his brother a fool what do you think will be the destiny of an outsider? undecided
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:21am On Feb 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Now this is the full meaning of the word "REPENT"

To feel pain, sorrow, or regret for what one has done or omitted to do; the cause for repenting may be indicated with "of".

Your mental assent of the word repent would do you no good if you refuse to repent.

MaxInDHouse:


So you don't even know the meaning of what you're typing.

Someone must have known what he's supposed to do either through reading or hearing it in the past just as those two thieves did not that someone hasn't heard anything before he is living justly from his mental disposition then you walk up to him and ask him to repent. Ọmọ repent of what?

That is what you are there to do within 3 minutes, to either remind or inform him of what he is to repent of. Unfortunately, you cannot give what you don't have.

MaxInDHouse:


Dude Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing! cheesy

My pastor is certainly living rent-free in your head 24\7. grin Repent and believe the gospel! smiley

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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27am On Feb 26, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

"And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" (1 Peter 4:18).

It is good that you realise that you are not a child of God by admitting that you are not my brother. If my brother would be in danger of hell fire for calling his brother a fool what do you think will be the destiny of an outsider? undecided

Go and worship with your brothers it's Sunday? cheesy
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Feb 26, 2023
OLAADEGBU:

Your mental assent of the word repent would do you no good if you refuse to repent.
That is what you are there to do within 3 minutes, to either remind or inform him of what he is to repent of. Unfortunately, you cannot give what you don't have.
My pastor is certainly living rent-free in your head 24\7. grin Repent and believe the gospel! smiley

Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing.

Even though you see what the Bible says about Jesus it's Kumuyi's three minute setup you prefer.

Dude you can now go and meet your pastor i have taught you what the Bible REALLY teach! wink
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:40am On Feb 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing.

Even though you see what the Bible says about Jesus it's Kumuyi's three minute setup you prefer.

Dude you can now go and meet your pastor i have taught you what the Bible REALLY teach! wink

MaxInDHouse:


Now this is the full meaning of the word "REPENT"

To feel pain, sorrow, or regret for what one has done or omitted to do; the cause for repenting may be indicated with "of".

"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mark 1:15).

Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by orisa37: 9:54am On Feb 26, 2023
"Must a person confess Jesus with his mouth to be saved"?

YES.
CONFESS, THAT'S WORSHIP GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART SOUL MIND AND STRENGTH.
YOUR MIND AND STRENGTH INCLUDE YOUR BODY SENSES WHICH INCLUDE YOUR MOUTH.

HAPPY SUNDAY TO YOU AND TO NIGERIA.

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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19am On Feb 26, 2023

Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:21am On Feb 26, 2023
orisa37:
"Must a person confess Jesus with his mouth to be saved"?

YES.
CONFESS, THAT'S WORSHIP GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART SOUL MIND AND STRENGTH.
YOUR MIND AND STRENGTH INCLUDE YOUR BODY SENSES WHICH INCLUDE YOUR MOUTH.

HAPPY SUNDAY TO YOU AND TO NIGERIA.

Happy Sunday and remain blessed and highly favoured. smiley

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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by orisa37: 2:50pm On Feb 26, 2023
GOD BLESS YOU TOO

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Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:10am On Feb 27, 2023
OLAADEGBU:


Have you got Goodnews for a man who only has 3 minutes to live? undecided

What does your GO have to say concerning that question
Re: Must A Person Confess Jesus With His Mouth To Be Saved? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:20pm On Feb 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:


What does your GO have to say concerning that question

If you really want to know what my GS not GO, has to say about the question then catch him on the link below: smiley

https://www.nairaland.com/4821122/bible-study-kumuyi-live-ministration/13#down

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