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Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 11:10am On Sep 16, 2023
MMWandali:
Father is right
Pastor is wrong

No verse in the bible requires pastor to pronounce anything
God gave the power to parents to give out their children in marriage

Period!!
Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 11:14am On Sep 16, 2023
Nuheights:


I don't think they should
Exactly,
This is the problem with this ceremony.
It would have been okay if the couple requested for a Church Blessing Ceremony rather that a Wedding Ceremony.

Unfortunately, the it is fraud to tell a pastor to join you in marriage when you are already married.

What then is the pastor doing?

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Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 11:15am On Sep 16, 2023
Iseoluwani:


u are wrong.
where did Isaac or Abraham do church wedding or were did the new testament christain do church wedding. dont be brainwashed
1. Are you saying that the only valid kind of wedding ceremony is traditional?

2. Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 11:16am On Sep 16, 2023
Exceed15:
The pastor goofed. He should avoided the mild drama.

Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 11:17am On Sep 16, 2023
prophetfire:
Valid before the law.
The basic question is:
Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by Exceed15: 11:33am On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:


Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?

Left fot the father he doesn't church to validate the wedding. It is sidrens lol.. of nowadays that want d so called white wedding
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by Ishilove: 12:05pm On Sep 16, 2023
Tallesty1:
No priest will bless my own. I don't need church wedding at all.


I have friends who didn't move into their matrimonial homes until they did their white wedding. Some stayed as long as three months.

In my mind I was like "which kind of colonial mentality is this??" but I kept silent before they tag me the worst 'sinner' in the world.
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by REALretep(m): 12:20pm On Sep 16, 2023
The society determines when marriage is said to have occurred. In this case, there is clearly a disagreement between the religious and traditional aspects of the society on when marriage is said to have occurred. As this fight of superiority between the two continues, anybody who pitches tent with either is right.

The bride's father is a wise man. He sent a clear message...stating where his tent is pitched
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by seeme2(f): 12:25pm On Sep 16, 2023
Preists joining couples is not even biblical. The moment your spouse's parents or anybody they reckon as having authority over them gives the go ahead, omo marriage don start be that.

All of these new age rules were created by man to abrogated more power to themselves.

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Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by MMWandali: 12:39pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Religiousness of the people
Mind you it's different from Godliness
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 12:52pm On Sep 16, 2023
Exceed15:


Left fot the father he doesn't church to validate the wedding. It is sidrens lol.. of nowadays that want d so called white wedding
So, why did the Father follow his wedded children to the church and what was supposed to be the function of the priest?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 12:54pm On Sep 16, 2023
MMWandali:

Religiousness of the people
Mind you it's different from Godliness
I agree!
But they came to the priest for a wedding ceremony and not a blessing ceremony.

If they had told the priest that they were already married, would he have the right to pronounce them husband and wife for the second time?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 12:56pm On Sep 16, 2023
seeme2:
Preists joining couples is not even biblical. The moment your spouse's parents or anybody they reckon as having authority over them gives the go ahead, omo marriage don start be that.

All of these new age rules were created by man to abrogated more power to themselves.
This authority include the priests doesn't it?

If a court clerk can join people in marriage, I how much more their pastors.

By they way,
What did they go to church to do knowing that they were already married?
I don't understand!
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by Iseoluwani: 1:00pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

1. Are you saying that the only valid kind of wedding ceremony is traditional?

2. Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?

rule one
is it in the bible

in biblical hermeneutics there is what we call rule of first mention
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by MMWandali: 1:03pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

I agree!
But they came to the priest for a wedding ceremony and not a blessing ceremony.

If they had told the priest that they were already married, would he have the right to pronounce them husband and wife for the second time?
They were already married under native law and custom
Whatever was done by the priest is only ceremonial rite of religion and not essential for the validity of the customary marriage
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 1:08pm On Sep 16, 2023
Iseoluwani:


rule one
is it in the bible

in biblical hermeneutics there is what we call rule of first mention
Is court/civil wedding in the Bible?
Is it thus Biblically illegal?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 1:10pm On Sep 16, 2023
MMWandali:

They were already married under native law and custom
Whatever was done by the priest is only ceremonial rite of religion and not essential for the validity of the customary marriage
Did they tell the priest that they want him to my to
join them in marriage
or
to just perform a meaningless ceremony
or
for church blessing


What was their purpose for coming to the priest?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by eroticecstasy: 2:24pm On Sep 16, 2023
Confused religion.
I can't imagine myself going to a church owned by mommy GO, I tried before it didn't end well
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by xjiggy: 3:51pm On Sep 16, 2023
In the eyes of Men, the court wedding is the the legally recognized wedding worldwide. That's why divorce proceedings only take place in court. In the eyes of GOD, the traditional wedding is the spiritually recognized one. The marriage of a couple is supposed to be an agreement between the two families... with the Bride price been the token of the Bond. This is specified in the Bible. The White wedding is the white man equivalent of the Traditional wedding. For us Africans it's more of a symbolic spiritual blessing of the marriage that have already taken place. The complexity of it all is we end up doing 2-3 weddings to fulfill all requirements of society.
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by Exceed15: 6:06pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

So, why did the Father follow his wedded children to the church and what was supposed to be the function of the priest?

U have a point o. There's a role of parents( traditional and church in marriage proceedings. The father has given his blessings and the pastor too need to uphold the church procedure to pronounce them man and wife in the presence of the people.
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by ojtopsy: 8:53pm On Sep 16, 2023
Exceed15:


U have a point o. There's a role of parents( traditional and church in marriage proceedings. The father has given his blessings and the pastor too need to uphold the church procedure to pronounce them man and wife in the presence of the people.
He has no point. Church can not pronounce anyone husband and wife. It's a mere publicity. Nothing biblical about it. Just part of the arrogation of power through the back door. Family pronounce. Court registers and church blesses and publicize it. That's the logic .
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by ojtopsy: 8:53pm On Sep 16, 2023
Exceed15:


U have a point o. There's a role of parents( traditional and church in marriage proceedings. The father has given his blessings and the pastor too need to uphold the church procedure to pronounce them man and wife in the presence of the people.
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 8:56pm On Sep 16, 2023
Exceed15:


U have a point o. There's a role of parents( traditional and church in marriage proceedings. The father has given his blessings and the pastor too need to uphold the church procedure to pronounce them man and wife in the presence of the people.
Actually, if the couple see the traditional wedding as their last wedding rite, they should request for church blessing NOT another second Marriage.

It is wrong to tell a priest to join you in marriage that is worth nothing. Any priest who does a useless wedding does not know his job

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Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by prophetfire: 9:03pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

The basic question is:
Why did this couple come to the priest when they knew they were already husband and wife?
Doing what everyone else is doing na. grin
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 9:09pm On Sep 16, 2023
prophetfire:
Doing what everyone else is doing na. grin
What is everybody doing?

Pretending that they want to be married while they are already married?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by prophetfire: 9:35pm On Sep 16, 2023
TenQ:

What is everybody doing?

Pretending that they want to be married while they are already married?
grin grin grin
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by TenQ: 8:32am On Sep 17, 2023
Iseoluwani:


rule one
is it in the bible

in biblical hermeneutics there is what we call rule of first mention
Is "traditional wedding" in the Bible?
Did the Bible give rules of performing traditional weddings?

Is a civil wedding unbiblical?
Re: Cleric, Bride’s Father Disagree On Who Should Declare Marriage Has Taken Place by Exceed15: 1:14pm On Sep 17, 2023
ojtopsy:

He has no point. Church can not pronounce anyone husband and wife. It's a mere publicity. Nothing biblical about it. Just part of the arrogation of power through the back door. Family pronounce. Court registers and church blesses and publicize it. That's the logic .

Toor

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