Bluezy13:


What are you saying

I m only saying I m a Christian that can crush the enemy to particles!

Padipadi:

I v answered you. No dey borther me. Get me a sensible atheist to come and run mouth here and let me roast him or her.

Answer, cōward!!!

Some people are confused because they don't understand their creator not to talk of their religious books. During ADAM's era, it's only EVE who was present with Adam as humanbeings. (i challenge the writer to mention other women who were existing with Adam then). what happened to DAVID, SOLOMON Who have access to many women? are david, solomon, etc not men of God?

happney65:


They will say it's the old testament. As if they don't still read from the old testament and follow the teachings of the old testament.

Religious people no go kill me .

Its even from the old testament op took the quotes and teachings from and the contradictory examples the comrade you quoted is from the same old testament

Mercisharelove:
The scripture comfirm one male and one female relationship!

Not one male, more females as wives, no, not so from the beginning. How do you know?


Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

The man is the specie, the male and female! The spirit being, the creature of ELOHIM, THE CREATOR!

A man isn't a boy, no, it's the combination of male and female.


2:24 Therefore shall *(a) not two or more)* man leave his, not their) father and his mother, not their mothers), and shall cleave unto his *(wife) not wives* : and they shall be *one flesh, not many flesh, but one.* Pure spiritual! Follow the truth!

His rib, his wife and they shall be one flesh. Now if you want to relate physically, I am talking about marriage, romantic relationship, living together.

So, stop hurting yourself, be free, pray you meet the man you can meet their needs.

You know the female is like God, like THE HOLY SPIRIT, she has and is built to display all the attributes of GOD ALMIGHTIEST, the help meet for him, the man is greatly help, the same way Isaac was comforted, when Rebekah arrived, that's what THE CREATOR , GOD ALMIGHTIEST SAID before unveiling the most beautiful of HIS creations, while Adam was deep asleep, yet Adam was aware, through revelation that she was taken from the bones of his bones and flesh of his flesh, he said "she shall be called a woman", because she was taken from a man that THE LORD HAD CREATED AND MADE!

Ladies fly...Proverbs 31:29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

Delete all those junk you posted and paste these verse Mark 10:11-12, 1 Corinthians 7:10-11,39. Romans 7:2-3.

These verses prove to deniers/naysayers without doubt that Polygamy is unacceptable in the gospel.

tachia406:
This is a feminist and parochial interpretation shrouded in self delusion. Which kind apt?

I was satirical if you considered my follow-up question.

Danegun777:




How did Adam populate your fantasy Isreal story garden of Eden to populate the world

Isreali Jews are very weird people, with their ridiculous tales of lies

They claim to migrate from Egypt to Palestinian land for 40years , 365 * 40 = 14,600 days to travel 600 killometers, they moved like snail covering 1km per month , 33 meters in one day



.

This is the result of ignorance. If you have ever read the bible you will realise the israelites did not journey everyday for 40 years as you erroneously assumed. Instead, they were delayed in the wilderness until the generation that murmured against God were all wiped away.
Ignorance is a disease

80% of Women who don't like polygamy are demons turmenting their husbands

AntiChristian:


Numbers 12:1 not 2:1.

Iṣi Aki!

Ok. Mention the name of the wife and her children

Okpo

AntiChristian:
Point 1
Jesus used a parable that includes polygamy

"Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. ...While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; ...And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage:" Matthew 25:1-2,5-6c,10a-c (See verses 1-13).

It should be noted, however, that this is not a literal, physical marriage to literal, physical women. While it was only a parable, even so, Jesus would never have described Himself this way in a parable if polygamy was a sin.

If polygamy was sinful I think Jesus would never have used it in his parable. Note one man vs many women as wives.

You think? Since when did an Islamist start thinking? Is thinking not bidah and shirk?
And you're even thinking for Christian while being AntiChristian? Are you sure you're ok

AntiChristian:
Point 2
God enacted laws for multiple wives.

"If a man have two wives..." Deuteronomy 21:15

The passage of Deuteronomy 21:15-17 is a specific instruction in the Law Itself to any man with "two wives". If polygamy was a sin, then it would not be possible for a "man to have two wives" in the Law.

"If a man has two wives, one beloved and the other unloved, and both bear him sons, but the unloved wife has the firstborn son, 16when that man assigns his inheritance to his sons he must not appoint the son of the beloved wife as the firstborn over the son of the unloved wife. Instead, he must acknowledge the firstborn, the son of his unloved wife, by giving him a double portion of all that he has. For that son is the firstfruits of his father’s strength; the right of the firstborn belongs to him"
Deuteronomy 21:15-17.

Secondly, God said If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
Exodus 21:10

Yahweh makes laws protecting the First wife & previous wives here.
Note that this verse comes only 22 verses AFTER the 7th Commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery" in Exodus 20:14.

Moses wrote all these yet he still married two wives.

And Moses had a high holy Spirit level in Numbers 11:25

What about Muhammad the pervert prophet? Was his own holy spirit or evil spirit

AntiChristian:
Point 3

The context is divorce not marriage

In Matthew 19:3-9, Jesus was not speaking about polygamy. Rather, He is only answering a question about divorce. Indeed, the entire passage is about divorce, not polygamy.

"Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
Matthew 19:3-9.

Indeed, in Matthew 19:8-9, Jesus simply repeats the Deuteronomy 24:1 "as it had been in the beginning", that God has always been against divorce of what He joined together. In Matthew 19:3, the Pharisees were asking about "every" reason for divorcing, but Jesus returned back with the only one allowed reason (the woman's "fornication / uncleanness", as per Deuteronomy 24:1.

Polygamy is about marriage, whereas divorce is about breaking up marriage. Accordingly, Jesus was not speaking against pro-marriage polygamy in Matthew 19. He was instead addressing marriage-destruction of divorce. It was about divorce, not polygamy.

Ok. If God was against divorce and your Muhammad was busy divorcing women and replacing them with another while encouraging his followers to do same (He even got his adopted son to divorce his wife who was Muhammad's cousin so Muhammad could marry her), does it mean Muhammad was doing what is against God's will and is thus a servant of sin and Satan?

AntiChristian:
Point 4

God said He gave WIVES not wife!

Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.

Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.

As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/god-said-he-gave-wives/

Ok. God is against taking another man's wife. How do we reconcile that with Muhammad who took his adopted son's wife?

Padipadi:

Mtcheweeewwwwwwwwewweeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
So I v been talking to a child.
May your phone spoil for wasting my time.

You know nothing about human interpersonal relationship

MiddleDimension:


respond to whatbhe said rather than say this.

let me give you another one: ''Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them (Judah and samaria), saith the Lord'' Jeremiah 31:31-32

You all are simply confused, honestly

phemmyfour:
He also gave Isrelites Kings, that wasn't his original plan. These are referred to as PERMISSIBLE will


1st Sam 8
They said to him, "You are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways; now appoint a king to lead [1] us, such as all the other nations have."
6
But when they said, "Give us a king to lead us," this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD.
7
And the LORD told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king

Him giving David his wives is not in the same sense he gave them kings.

The man is the figure of God in a christian marriage. He can have more than one wife since God can have more than one individual as his bride. You, @Phemmyfour, are God's wife, if you are a born-again, and Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc, are also God's brides, if they are born-agains. Your describes himself as the husband of two wives. In Jeremiah 31: 31-32, it says He is the husband of Samaria and Judah. Hoe about that?
So, you can now see and agree that God did not give David his wives the same way he gave them kings.

I understand we are all ignorant with most of the things that exist so, I can forgive your ignorance on this issue and using an example that has nothing to do with the topic.

Eyinju112:

People have been taking two or more wives since the early Christian’s that 1 Timothy is a reminder that God doesn’t want or support two wives

No, the reason Paul said that is not to condemn polygamy. How do I know this, I know this when I read 1 Cor 7: 32. It says: "I would like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord. 33 But a married man concerns himself with worldly matters, because he wants to please his wife; 34 and so he is pulled in two directions. An unmarried woman or a virgin concerns herself with the Lord's work, because she wants to be dedicated both in body and spirit; but a married woman concerns herself with worldly matters, because she wants to please her husband.

This is why he told Timothy that a bishop should have only one wife. He did not do that because he thinks polygamy is anti god.

Padipadi:

When it get to a point, you can't perform effectively financially, physically and emotionally. It's easier to manage one person than managing 2-4 people.

i agree with u but when everyone is busy or contributing something in the family trust me u won't perform poorly in all of the above

Danegun777:




How did Adam populate your fantasy Isreal story garden of Eden to populate the world

Isreali Jews are very weird people, with their ridiculous tales of lies

They claim to migrate from Egypt to Palestinian land for 40years , 365 * 40 = 14,600 days to travel 600 killometers, they moved like snail covering 1km per month , 33 meters in one day



.

Shut up...
This thread is not about Israel..

Eyinju112:

People have been taking two or more wives since the early Christian’s that 1 Timothy is a reminder that God doesn’t want or support two wives

Here is my response to the CJstarz on this very issue. Read it because you are going to benefit from it.


And here is the bible passage to back up what you have said:

''32 Iwould like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord. 33 But a married man concerns himself with worldly matters, because he wants to please his wife; 34 and so he is pulled in two directions. An unmarried woman or a virgin concerns herself with the Lord's work, because she wants to be dedicated both in body and spirit; but a married woman concerns herself with worldly matters, because she wants to please her husband.'' 1Cor 7 vs 32-34.

So, you were right when you said Paul gave that advice so that they can concentrate on their work in the vineyard. He does not want them to be pulled in two directions, like he said in the bolded. But those, like @Dtruthspeaker and @Vdestro, who want to remain ignorant, will ignore this and instead keep believing the lies he was told by those who know nothing about the authentic christian teachings, or the mind of God concerning the matter.

For Paul, marriage comes with a lot of headache; those who are married today can confirm this as well. That's why he said in vs 28 of the same chapter that he would ''rather spare you the everyday troubles that married people will have''

Anyone who says Paul telling pastors and bishops in 1 Timothy 3:2 that they should marry only one wife means he is condemning polygamy, is a big-fat liar! We have seen from the passage I quoted, which you also alluded to in your post that I am quoting that the reason Paul said that, was because he thinks marriage has alot of challenges which could distract one from the Opeus Dei, the work of god.

Now, we all know from his letters, that Paul is someone who is fanatical about evangelism and working in the lord's vineyard which is why he decided not to get married so that he won't have any excuse or distraction. He said ''of all the apostles, I work the hardest!'' 1Cor 15:10. To underline how much he is willing to put in to save every soul on earth, he said: ''Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.'' 1 Cor 9 vs 19. In vs 22-23 he said: ''I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

Now the Paul that said what I quoted above, does anyone think even after telling the bishops in Timothy 3:2 that they should marry only one wife; think that same Paul will see someone who is married to more than one wife doing the work of a family man incredibly well, and also works in the vineyard and does the job even better than the so-called singles or 1 wife-men, do you think that same Paul will object to such a man holding the position of a bishop? You think Paul cares about anything else but the work of god? was he not the one who, when he was told he is not one of the original disciple of Jesus hence cannot be regarded as an apostle, told them that but he works the hardest among all the apostles and by so doing, he became an apostle ny the grace of god? 1 Cor 15:10.

AfonjaConehead:

You all are simply confused, honestly

I provided biblical passages to back-up my point and you are here saying I am confused?

Are you not a bible believing person again?

How many wife Jesus marry?
that means Islam has it right for we must believe all the prophet .
You claim Jesus....but when it comes to marriage you qoute Adam why?
Since Jesus didnt marry I think all xristian shouldn't marry too since you follow Jesus not Adam...

Padipadi:

I m only saying I m a Christian that can crush the enemy to particles!

So this is the summary of all the nonsense you wrote up there.

AfonjaConehead:


You are just hollow...seek understanding and seek knowledge as well.

Hahahahah, understanding of white men's words right?

Bluezy13:


So this is the summary of all the nonsense you wrote up there.

Yes cos the nonsense made sense in your nonsense life.

MiddleDimension:


You know nothing about human interpersonal relationship

I actually do.
Now go n read for your GCE, dear child.

luminouz:

Answer, cōward!!!

Iyalaya e!
I v answered the child.
Who you be?
If you are an atheist, muslim, Hamas sympathiser or any weed, saying anything against Christianity and see if I won't nuke up with words.
Tiwon ba bi e daa, soro!

Rayjnr:


Hahahahah, understanding of white men's words right?

Hahahaha hahaha you shudda be named Tajudeen or mufutaus instead of Ray then

MiddleDimension:


I provided biblical passages to back-up my point and you are here saying I am confused?

Are you not a bible believing person again?

What do you think you understand by those scriptures you quoted? What is your point?

lunacol:


Can you explain this...

The bishop therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, orderly, given to hospitality, apt to teach; no brawler, no striker; but gentle, not contentious, no lover of money; one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1 Timothy 3:2-5.

Does it mean if you are not a bishop,you can marry more than one wife?

God's template and model remains one man,one wife.

It ain't as though he condemns whoever marries more than one wife..
Whoever feels he can take adequate and good care of more than one wife is free to do so but such cannot serve as God's minister in any capacity as stated by the verse you quoted.

Padipadi:
I actually do.
Now go n read for your GCE, dear child.

I am long past that. Almost a PhD holder now.

MiddleDimension:


I am long past that. Almost a PhD holder now.

You mean watery thesis PhD wey you dey write?
Look, just waka pass or I drop missile on you. I no wan be ya friend.