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Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Okijajuju1(m): 8:11am On Oct 27, 2011
Please what has Ekiti done for Nigeria since they were created as a state biko?
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by asha80(m): 8:15am On Oct 27, 2011
Okija_juju:

Please what has Ekiti done for Nigeria since they were created as a state biko?

every house has a proffesor
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Ufeolorun(m): 8:58am On Oct 27, 2011
The fact still remains that Delta has failed its most vulnerable and no body but the government of the state should be blamed for it.
If its people could start running to a state full of 'thatched',mud houses  as facility tourist then its a reflection of the failed government they left back home and its a. Double shame that same state is one of the biggest rent seekers in the country.

Okija_juju:

Please what has Ekiti done for Nigeria since they were created as a state biko?

Afe babalola one of the biggest lawyers to walk the landscape called Nigeria.
Femi falana the biggest human and social rights lawyer  second only to
baba Fawehinmi(rip).
Any other childish and unrelated question?
Fiddlestics!
grin
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 9:25am On Oct 27, 2011
Good one from the governor. cool

The only way to make these villagers realize the importance of good government is to implement discriminatory policies between indigenes and non-indigenes of the state. indigeneship should be granted however to those that have stayed long enough (say 10 years) in the state and can identify with the people of the state.

The governor should also consider building toll gate on those Ekiti roads that Abuja to Lagos travellers ply while trying to avoid the death traps of the federal government.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 9:34am On Oct 27, 2011
^

Yes Discriminatory policies to stress good governance just like Theodore Orji Abia state . . . . very astute reasoning by the enlightened . . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 10:03am On Oct 27, 2011
So if you were a governor, you would use your state's money to educate every Nigerian? Are you that silly?

Why not try educating the whole of Africa. Some of you people need to return to school for proper training. Federalism will be a good start.

jmaine:

^

Yes Discriminatory policies to stress good governance just like Theodore Orji Abia state . . . . very astute reasoning by the enlightened . . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 10:37am On Oct 27, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

So if you were a governor, you would use your state's money to educate every Nigerian? Are you that silly?

Why not try educating the whole of Africa. Some of you people need to return to school for proper training. Federalism will be a good start.


In your mirage like wisdom . . .Good governance is synonymous with discriminatory policies [/b]against status of inhabitants of a state  . . .and you even had the confidence to reference others to school for a retraining regime . . .Funny, how some dude prescribe solutions tailored for them on others. Oga Akanbi , you need total overhauling . . . . a breath of fresh re-orientation exercise from the scratch would do you some good . . .

Only fools believe that his/her fellow indigenes are not gaining from some other state governments good will . . . . even skewed in favour of them in some instances . . . Such a shame bros Akanbi for towing the reasoning line quoted and highlighted below . . . .


Akanbi_edu:

Good one from the governor. cool

The [b]only way
to make these villagers realize the importance of good government is to implement discriminatory policies between indigenes and non-indigenes of the state. indigeneship should be granted however to those that have stayed long enough (say 10 years) in the state and can identify with  the people of the state.

The governor should also consider building toll gate on those Ekiti roads that Abuja to Lagos travellers ply while trying to avoid the death traps of the federal government.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 10:54am On Oct 27, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

[size=15pt]So if you were a governor, you would use your state's money to educate every Nigerian? Are you that silly?[/size]

Why not try educating the whole of Africa. Some of you people need to return to school for proper training. Federalism will be a good start.


Why do we have different states created in the first place? So that each can attend to its peculiar problem in a way that is best for the people of the state. So if Delta government thinks building BIG houses for Delta indigenes is its priority at this time and so can not provide for the disabled, the poor Ekiti people who have decided that education is their priority should educate Delta indigenes, even though they live in MUD houses? angry angry angry angry Are you that silly
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 11:01am On Oct 27, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

Why do we have different states created in the first place? So that each can attend to its peculiar problem in a way that is best for the people of the state. So if Delta government thinks building BIG houses for Delta indigenes is its priority at this time and so can not provide for the disabled, the poor Ekiti people who have decided that education is their priority should educate Delta indigenes, even though they live in MUD houses?  angry angry angry angry Are you that silly

Your rage is useless if, you can't explain how discriminatory policies is a sign of good governance . . . . Your such a big shame . . . your "silly" tantrums should be directed at your pathetic self . . . what a deranged tribalistic creep we have here . . . and btw, my town is  barely dotted with mud houses, not disputing the fact that there are a few tushed mud houses here and there . .tushed in the sense that, you need to get close to know, they are mud houses cos they are well constructed, plastered and painted  grin . . .The mud houses is not even a yard stick for discriminatory good governance policies . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Okijajuju1(m): 11:14am On Oct 27, 2011
asha 80:

every house has a proffesor


So na professors be una contribution to federal coffers abi?! Other states are contributing money to train your people in school abi!

That the reason I said close them down!!
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 11:15am On Oct 27, 2011
jmaine:

Your rage is useless if, you can't explain how discriminatory policies is a sign of good governance . . . . Your such a big shame . . . your "silly" tantrums should be directed at your pathetic self . . . what a deranged tribalistic fool we have here . . . and btw, my town is  barely dotted with mud houses, not disputing the fact that there are a few tushed mud houses here and there . .tushed in the sense that, you need to get close to know, they are mud houses cos they are well constructed, plastered and painted  grin . . .The mud houses is not even a yard stick for discriminatory good governance policies . . .

ODE.

So if Delta people can spend their money on things like building new airports, new hotels, and other white elephant projects, the poor Ekiti people should take care of Delta's disabled?

[size=15pt]Are you that silly? are you a B-a-s-t-a-r-d?[/size]
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 11:19am On Oct 27, 2011
Akanbi_edu:


[size=15pt]Are my that silly? are my a B-a-s-t-a-r-d?[/size]

Better  grin , Now answer those questions sicko for equating good governance with discriminatory policies . .  what a raging worm he is  . . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 11:23am On Oct 27, 2011
ODE,

So you would educate another man's children, even though the man is richer than you, while you live in a small house when the rich man is building mansions all over the place? And you would do this without a process of making his children part of your family first?

[s]An attempt to get down to your cretinous level[/s]
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 11:28am On Oct 27, 2011
Okija_juju:


So na professors be una contribution to federal coffers abi?! Other states are contributing money to train your people in school abi!

That the reason I said close them down!!


An educated populace ladened with a sound knowledge and practical skills is a requisite for developmental sustenance . .So Ekiti state as an intellectual power house in Nigeria is an outstanding feat !! . . . .it' s not all about money bruv  wink . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by nduchucks: 11:29am On Oct 27, 2011
Those of you who are claiming that the handicapped 'migrants' from Delta were rightfully ejected from Ekiti because they left Dalta because of lack of help from Delta state, are very wrong.  One would hope that some day, you people would be enlightened enough to understand that citizenry includes the right to move to any state within Nigeria, for whatever reason one chooses.

The more shameful part of this affair is that many of the posters here, live abroad where they are accorded the same rights which they believe citizens in Nigeria do not deserve. Many of you people left the shores of Nigeria because of lack of educational opportunities - how would you feel if your countries of residence such as USA, refuse to give you those opportunities because your government did not provide the same to you? You all sound like a bunch of small minded and unsophisticated bigots.

If you move to a state and live in the state as a good tax paying citizen, you should be accorded the same rights as the 'indigenes' of the state. It is simply backwards to do otherwise/
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 11:33am On Oct 27, 2011
If a state A's governor made campaign promises based on say security, education, health and another state B's governor made campaign promises based on say infrastructure and tourism. Now lets assume both are staying true to their campaign promises.

Is it fair for a citizen of B having voted for infrastructure and tourism to enjoy security, free education and health in state A without passing through a process of indigenization of A? If he voted for infrastructure and tourism and he is able to enjoy security, education and health in another state, will he know the value of those things he is enjoying free of charge?
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 11:37am On Oct 27, 2011
ndu_chucks:

Those of you who are claiming that the handicapped 'migrants' from Delta were rightfully ejected from Ekiti because they left Dalta because of lack of help from Delta state, are very wrong.  One would hope that some day, you people would be enlightened enough to understand that citizenry includes the right to move to any state within Nigeria, for whatever reason one chooses.

The more shameful part of this affair is that many of the posters here, live abroad where they are accorded the same rights which they believe citizens in Nigeria do not deserve. Many of you people left the shores of Nigeria because of lack of educational opportunities - how would you feel if your countries of residence such as USA, refuse to give you those opportunities because your government did not provide the same to you? You all sound like a bunch of small minded and unsophisticated bigots.

If you move to a state and live in the state as a good tax paying citizen, you should be accorded the same rights as the 'indigenes' of the state. It is simply backwards to do otherwise/

Ndu thanks for giving this quoted guy below a free re-orientation lunch . . doubt, if he would be sharp enough to digest whatever you placed up there

Akanbi_edu:

ODE,

So you would educate another man's children, even though the man is richer than you, while you live in a small house when the rich man is building mansions all over the place? And you would do this without a process of making his children part of your family first?

[s]An attempt to get down to your cretinous level[/s]

Your a big shame dude, please feast on Ndu-Chuks free launch to you cos am done teasing your fickled brains. Your training has arrived . . .can you see the light in  Ndu Chuks candid post aimed at enlightening sorry souls as you . . .
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 11:40am On Oct 27, 2011
ndu_chucks:

Those of you who are claiming that the handicapped 'migrants' from Delta were rightfully ejected from Ekiti because they left Dalta because of lack of help from Delta state, are very wrong.  One would hope that some day, you people would be enlightened enough to understand that citizenry includes the right to move to any state within Nigeria, for whatever reason one chooses.

The more shameful part of this affair is that many of the posters here, live abroad where they are accorded the same rights which they believe citizens in Nigeria do not deserve. Many of you people left the shores of Nigeria because of lack of educational opportunities - how would you feel if your countries of residence such as USA, refuse to give you those opportunities because your government did not provide the same to you? You all sound like a bunch of small minded and unsophisticated bigots.

If you move to a state and live in the state as a good tax paying citizen, you should be accorded the same rights as the 'indigenes' of the state. It is simply backwards to do otherwise/

Mr. enlightened closet/pretentious bigot.

So if people go abroad for education or other things, they don't go through a process of indigenization? The last time I checked, people pay higher fees in university based on classification whether international/local. Isn't it? If you stay in the country for a while, and you are qualified to be a citizen, then you become one. Why don't they open their universities to everybody to pay the same amount and see whether the place can contain the influx of people other disadvantaged parts of the world?
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 11:45am On Oct 27, 2011
ndu_chucks:

Those of you who are claiming that the handicapped 'migrants' from Delta were rightfully ejected from Ekiti because they left Dalta because of lack of help from Delta state, are very wrong.  One would hope that some day, you people would be enlightened enough to understand that citizenry includes the right to move to any state within Nigeria, for whatever reason one chooses.

The more shameful part of this affair is that many of the posters here, live abroad where they are accorded the same rights which they believe citizens in Nigeria do not deserve. Many of you people left the shores of Nigeria because of lack of educational opportunities - how would you feel if your countries of residence such as USA, refuse to give you those opportunities because your government did not provide the same to you? You all sound like a bunch of small minded and unsophisticated bigots.

If you move to a state and live in the state as a good tax paying citizen, you should be accorded the same rights as the 'indigenes' of the state. It is simply backwards to do otherwise/

if i remember correctly, all over the world, preference/ discounts etal are give to residents who apply to state institutions . thats why you have all those forms where you provide evidence you have been in the state of so and so for x years

if the school in question is a federal institution, all well and good.

but you cannot expect a state run institution for disabled or otherwise to give free tuition to non indigenes when it has not sorted out its own citizens

it is as simple as that.

if this was a real democracy, governments would get voted out for doing that.

forget all the typical african sentiment etal

your argument does not hold water for the simple reason that education abroad is not for free, unless you are on a scholarship. do you know how odd you sound? i can just imagine in ameica, where students get into debt for education - you think the citizens will smile and grin if state resources are spent on free tuition for nigerians who will then go back to their home country?

come on

all this sentimentality is well and good - i would recommend that all these non bigots put their money where their mouths are and set up a fund that will finance the education of these unlucky kids

so easy to be moral when its not your pocket that will be pinched
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 11:51am On Oct 27, 2011
oyb:

if i remember correctly, all over the world, preference/ discounts etal are give to residents who apply to state institutions . thats why you have all those forms where you provide evidence you have been in the state of so and so for x years

if the school in question is a federal institution, all well and good.

but you cannot expect a state run institution for disabled or otherwise to give free tuition to non indigenes when it has not sorted out its own citizens

it is as simple as that.

if this was a real democracy, governments would get voted out for doing that.

forget all the typical african sentiment etal

your argument does not hold water for the simple reason that education abroad is not for free, unless you are on a scholarship. do you know how odd you sound? i can just imagine in ameica, where students get into debt for education - you think the citizens will smile and grin if state resources are spent on free tuition for nigerians who will then go back to their home country?

come on

all this sentimentality is well and good - i would recommend that all these non bigots put their money where their mouths are and set up a fund that will finance the education of these unlucky kids

so easy to be moral when its not your pocket that will be pinched

Thank you jare.

I just don't understand these people at all, do they think we are running unitary system? do they even understand federalism at all?
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by redsun(m): 11:54am On Oct 27, 2011
To be physically disable in a country like nigeria where able bodies are functionally disable is a case of double wahala for dead body. The strain for the disable must be unbearable.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by jmaine: 11:58am On Oct 27, 2011
redsun:

To be physically disable in a country like Nigeria where able bodies are functionally disabled [/b]is a [b]case of double wahala for dead body.

grin

redsun:

The strain for the disable must be unbearable.

cry
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 12:13pm On Oct 27, 2011
this is a proof of residency document for tuition purposes in rutgers unive

Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 12:14pm On Oct 27, 2011
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Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by nduchucks: 12:51pm On Oct 27, 2011
@oyb et al. Thank you for making my point without the realization that you did so.  You admit in your example that if you can prove that you are a residence of a state (usually 6 months residency is all that is required) then you are entitles to all rights as every other resident of that state. I submit to you that the diabled Deltans in question, would more than pass the residency requirement which you used in your example and therefore be entitled to state  benefits, if they lived in the state of your example.

Unfortuneately, our system at home is still backwards just like the views of many on this thread, hence the unsophisticated and heartless stance by many posters here.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 1:12pm On Oct 27, 2011
The residency requirement in any state in Nigeria should be at least 5 years. This is because the Nigerian situation is peculiar.

For example, Lagos state free education does not discriminate based on state, ethnicity or religion. But contrary to expectations, during the last census, we saw people boarding buses to the East and the North to get counted. After that, they returned back to Lagos. So it won't be a bad idea for Lagos to implement a discriminatory policy of say, you need to provide a census card or something from your parents before you benefit from the free education program of Lagos state.

That is the FAIR way.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 1:34pm On Oct 27, 2011
ndu_chucks:

@oyb et al. Thank you for making my point without the realization that you did so.  You admit in your example that if you can prove that you are a residence of a state (usually 6 months residency is all that is required) then you are entitles to all rights as every other resident of that state. I submit to you that the diabled Deltans in question, would more than pass the residency requirement which you used in your example and therefore be entitled to state  benefits, if they lived in the state of your example.

Unfortuneately, our system at home is still backwards just like the views of many on this thread, hence the unsophisticated and heartless stance by many posters here.

what nonsense - you think '6 months residency' will require all that long form filling wahala?

this is an example how residency is established in saner climes -

Establishing residency in a new state can be performed generally in the same manner in all of the 50 US states. However, you need to check any specific state and the particular part of the state that interests you for more details. This would include the length of time one must live in that state in order to qualify legally as a state resident. Be sure to examine any new state's specifications for making actual residency complete. Some US states require you live in the location for only six months. Other states require a full year to establish residency.

You will need an actual street address in your new state, and not a P.O. box or a Private Mail Box (PMB) address, wh[/b]ich is often listed as only a street address. The US Postal Service can determine fraudulent residencies in this way and this can cost you at least a hefty fine.

[b]You may not establish residency in two different US states, because this could lead to multiple voting in federal elections and this is a crime. [/b]You might own homes in two or more states, but you can only choose one US State as your primary residence.

You may be interested in paying only lower, in-state college fees rather than out-of-state tuition. In this case, check with the college or university you want to attend and determine their specific requirements state residency. [b]Some schools require proof you have lived in the community for two years prior to even applying to the college or university
. Refrain from taking advantage of in-state residency status for college in two US states at once. If and when you are found out, those privileges will end and you may be fined and/or prosecuted for fraud. However, if you are in the US military, many universities and colleges will offer you nonresident (out-of-state) tuition waivers. This benefit is often offered to dependent relatives living with you as well.
Some groups of states offer in-state tuition to neighbors.

To establish legal residency in a new US state:

Locate a place to live in the new state. Purchase a home if you can.
Spend substantial time in the new state during vacations and holidays.
Maintain social and business relations in the new state.
Have a bank account in the new state.


Next, establish a living address with the U.S. Postal Service by going to the nearest post office and filing a change of address form.
Have your important documents transferred to your new address (insurance, memberships, licenses, etc.).
You will then need to find a job, pay taxes, and file tax returns in the US state in which you seek residency.
Obtain a driver's license and car registration in your new US state, or apply for a non-driver's state ID card if you do not drive.
Next, register to vote in your new state.

If you have professional licenses, have them transferred to your new state. DO this by contacting the governing board of your occupation in the new state (nurses, physicians, social workers, attorneys, etc.). Temporary licensing can often be granted immediately while you are waiting for the permanent license.


http://professionals.collegeboard.com/testing/international/state#state_res

Why do public institutions make a distinction between in-state and out-of-state students?
Higher education in the United States is now big business—a major export commodity—but state-supported institutions must favor their home state tax-paying customers. For guidance counselors worldwide who wonder why their most promising students are offered attractive scholarships to private American colleges but face out-of-state tuition surcharges from state institutions, here is the answer: there is no national education authority in the U.S. like in other countries.

The creation and maintenance of public institutions of higher education and university systems in the fifty states are financed first and foremost by each state's citizens through the payment of taxes. States seek to provide educational opportunity to their residents at an appropriate cost, recognizing that a well-educated electorate helps the state economy to grow and supports improved social and cultural amenities. Relatively few state colleges and universities get any significant amount of operating expenses from fundraising or outside development or endowments, as do the private institutions. Obviously, state legislatures and boards do not want their residents to assume the financial burden of educating persons whose presence in the state is not intended to be permanent, except in very specific situations (merit scholarships, for example). Thus, the nonresident tuition rate is born.

keep blathering about tribalism and wickedness
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 1:37pm On Oct 27, 2011
http://access.wa.gov/living/resources/residency.aspx

It's easy to become a Washington State resident. To become a resident of the state of Washington, simply take some action that proves you intend to live in the state on more than a temporary or transient basis.

Examples of actions you can take:

Obtain a Washington State driver license
Register to vote
Buy property and/or maintain a residence

Voting Rights

For information about residency and voting rights, refer to the Frequently Asked Questions on the Secretary of State website.

Social and Health Services

There may be additional residency requirements in order to be eligible for certain social services and/or health services. See the Residency Requirements section of Department of Social and Health Services website for more information.

College Tuition

To qualify for resident tuition, state law requires that you be a state resident for 12 months. The University of Washington has a guide to help determine eligibility at http://www.washington.edu/students/reg/residency.html. More information about residency requirements that apply to students in the state of Washington is available at the Higher Education Coordinating Board's Student Residency website.

Taxes

The Department of Revenue has also established a definition of residency for sales and use tax purposes which can be viewed at http://dor.wa.gov/content/contactus/con_residdef.aspx.

there you have it. you cannot just breeze into a ekiti state, enjoy free tuition, then go back home at the end of the term to vote for an idiot.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 1:49pm On Oct 27, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

The residency requirement in any state in Nigeria should be at least 5 years. This is because the Nigerian situation is peculiar.

For example, Lagos state free education does not discriminate based on state, ethnicity or religion. But contrary to expectations, during the last census, we saw people boarding buses to the East and the North to get counted. After that, they returned back to Lagos. So it won't be a bad idea for Lagos to implement a discriminatory policy of say, you need to provide a census card or something from your parents before you benefit from the free education program of Lagos state.

That is the FAIR way.



lagos no dey slack - you have to present tax clearance card for any service from the govt



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-732181.0.html


propaganda from beaf on the subject -


The place is clearly abandoned. Its in a village called Ovierie along Warri-Sapele Road.
I am not as concerned at the state of the school as I am that it is abandoned; no school premises should be left to rot away. But those closer to the place might give cogent reasons for why its that way, e[b]specially in a state with one of the highest literacy rates in the country[/b] and one that regularly tops JAMB results.

thats how the truth exposes these empty headed liars who are proud of  buildings
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Akanbiedu(m): 1:56pm On Oct 27, 2011
oyb:

lagos no dey slack - you have to present tax clearance card for any service from the govt



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-732181.0.html


propaganda from beaf on the subject -


thats how the truth exposes these empty headed liars who are proud of  buildings

Yeah right. The idea is, there must be some connection to the state before you can enjoy the state's services, especially free ones.
Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Nobody: 2:19pm On Oct 27, 2011
Maybe ndu_chucks and his fellow Deltans should concentrate more on making their government more accountable to the people of Delta.
If you let your schools rot away in this manner and then as matter of entitlement ask Ekiti to provide free education for your disabled kids, I think it's a bit unfair.

Re: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by Okijajuju1(m): 2:34pm On Oct 27, 2011
jmaine:

An educated populace ladened with a sound knowledge and practical skills is a requisite for developmental sustenance . .So Ekiti state as an intellectual power house in Nigeria is an outstanding feat !! . . . .it' s not all about money bruv wink . . .


And intellectuals sat together and the only way to free up state funds is to drive out 30 disabled people,

Well, what do you expect from Ekiti trained professors, Their reasoning would definitely be limited to thier surroundings.

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