advocatejare:

The bottom line is your Allah is a liar who claimed to have rescued jesus on the cross and replaced him by an innocent person to die his death whereas the same Allah could save Muhammad from poison, Muhammad died from the poison of a jewess which proved that he was fake and an imposter

Muhammad died without fulfilling his mission of compiling the Quran, his successors had to do that and burnt the original manuscripts


Muhammad didn’t make Islam perfect because immediately after his death his followers started fighting so intense that they left his body unburied for 3 days which was against the Muslims tradition of burying their dead on the same day or very early the following day


Islam wasn’t made perfect as Islam divided into Shia and Sunni because Muslims were fighting for who the leader will be


Muslims have been killing themselves since then. They don’t even need any external enemies, they are their own enemies. They went to attack Ali and Fatimah, Muhammad’s daughter and she had a miscarriage, Aisha led a civil war against fellow Muslims, apart from Abu Bakr that died natural death, other caliphs were killed by Muslims themselves and here you are lying that Allah perfect Islam, that’s the lie they tel you in your religion

Explore2xmore:


We are done here.

advocatejare:

The truth is setting you on fire, everything I wrote up there is the truth but you are afraid of your own history.

Don’t run away o, let’s continue. I like the way I’m teaching you Islam 101

FxMasterz:


Please it's okay. I don't think you fit into my space. Constantly saying what I never said and presenting yourself as though you're in a fight.

I need intelligent and and mature presentations. Thanks for your time.

Explore2xmore:


It's not worthy to waste time with unending argument. We have addressed one issue and you see fit to bring in others; to what end? These are issues you yourself can research on without arguing with others.
You cannot teach what you yourself don't know. Your own scripture doesn't tell you killed prophets are not prophets yet it forms the basis of your argument.
Pitiable that you have a course code like it's a trivial course in college yet it is an important aspect of life. It surely shows how much of a clown you are as this is careless humour and fun. I value the time the almighty lets me have for all will be accounted for and we must not waste the gift given us.
2 Timothy 2:23-25
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth,

2 Timothy 2:16
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness

advocatejare:

I can understand your frustration and the need to do tactical withdrawal after all your lies have been exposed:

1.
You lied that Muhammad didn’t die of poison when the same Muhammad in your sahih Hadith attributed the sickness that led to his death to the poison food he ate at Khaibar, so it’s either you doing Taqiyya or you’re saying that Muhammad was a liar who didn’t know what he was saying.
Even when someone suggested to Muhammad that his sickness was due to pleurisy, Muhammad insisted that his sickness was due to the poisoned meat he ate at Khaibar

2.
No prophet of God was ever killed with poison or watch his people die from poison without intervening.

Some companions of Muhammad who ate the poison had thought that Muhammad was a true prophet of God and that he would have protected them from the poison like Elisha protected his people from poison:

Elisha returned to Gilgal and there was a famine in that region. While the company of the prophets was meeting with him, he said to his servant, 'Put on the large pot and cook some stew for these men.' One of them went out into the fields to gather herbs and found a wild vine. He gathered some of its gourds and filled the fold of his cloak. When he returned, he cut them up into the pot of stew, though no one knew what they were. The stew was poured out for the men, but as they began to eat it, they cried out, 'O man of God, there is death in the pot!' And they could not eat it. Elisha said, 'Get some flour.' He put it into the pot and said, 'Serve it to the people to eat.' And there was nothing harmful in the pot."
-2 Kings 4:38-41


But Muhammad failed and wasted the lives of his companions that believed he had divine healing powers

3.
You lied that Muhammad completed his mission before he died but that is another lie from you: Muhammad claimed that the Quran was his only miracle yet he didn’t compile the Quran before he died, the compilation was done by the caliphs and they ended up standardizing it and burning the original one Muhammad received

-Muhammad also failed to appoint a successor and thereby creating chaos immediately after his death so much that they even left him unburied for 3 days

3. You lied that Islam is made perfect but you didn’t tell us how:

Islam wasn’t made perfect as Islam divided into Shia and Sunni because Muslims were fighting for who the leader will be


Muslims have been killing themselves since then. They don’t even need any external enemies, they are their own enemies. They went to attack Ali and Fatimah, Muhammad’s daughter and she had a miscarriage, Aisha led a civil war against fellow Muslims, apart from Abu Bakr that died natural death, other caliphs were killed by Muslims themselves and here you are lying that Allah perfect Islam, that’s the lie they tel you in your religion


Muhammad said Islam will divide into 72 sects, is that an attribute of a perfect religion? Each of your sect is claiming to be the true one and that the other ones are wrong


Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia are enemies yet they both practice the same so called perfect Islam

advocatejare:
Explore2xmore Check your reply below

Explore2xmore:

What poison existed at that time in Arabia that was so strong that a single bite, which he supposedly didn’t swallow, could lead to prolonged suffering and eventually death after 4 years?

One of his companions died despite similarly only having taken a few bites, it just doesn’t add up.

Ponder too: Matt 27:48; Immediately one of them ran and got a sponge. He filled it with wine vinegar, put it on a staff, and offered it to Jesus to drink.

In the Old Testament Holy Book of Psalm, vinegar is associated with poison, "They gave me gall for my food, and they gave me vinegar for my drink" (Psalm 68:22).

advocatejare:

Carry your questions to your Hadith that reported it

They quoted Muhammad to have said that the pain and sickness that killed him was due to the poisoned food he ate


Now you want to start denying the content of the link you posted, the link said Bishri ate the poisoned food and died immediately, Muhammad only tasted it


So you now agree that it was actually Jesus that was on the cross and that your Quran lied that it was another person!


Can you show where vinegar was said to be poison?
You’re just a liar like your god, Allah the Al-Makireena, the best of the deceivers!

advocatejare:

Carry your questions to your Hadith that reported it

They quoted Muhammad to have said that the pain and sickness that killed him was due to the poisoned food he ate


Now you want to start denying the content of the link you posted, the link said Bishri ate the poisoned food and died immediately, Muhammad only tasted it


So you now agree that it was actually Jesus that was on the cross and that your Quran lied that it was another person!


Can you show where vinegar was said to be poison?
You’re just a liar like your god, Allah the Al-Makireena, the best of the deceivers!

advocatejare:

Explore2xmore:


Jesus at a time says he was not sent to the gentiles but these same group and the Romans give you what you call Christianity.

On what you say about Jesus being replaced on the cross as a lie do find out what a now eliminated group of Jewish Christians Ebionites have to say.
Do Unitarian Christians share the same view of Christianity as you?

You make mention the delay to bury Muhammad do research about it?
Emergence of sects of Islam is what is to be as humans are prone to do this? How many sects of Christians and Jews exist?

Explore2xmore:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Do you blatantly deny the Bible verses?

Psalm 69:21 (ESV)
They gave me poison for food,and for my thirst they gave me sour wine to drink

Explore2xmore:



Is it always practical for a Muslim to be buried on the same day of death? Where is it a sin to bury on a day or few days after?

You refuse to acknowledge or respond to different sects of Christians or those who follow Jesus? Is it untrue that Jesus says he wasn't sent to the gentiles?

Is this not a conspiracy of Paul, Rome and others to state otherwise to take the religion off the Jews?

Were the Ebionotes not truly Jews that followed Jesus? What are the wrongs of the Unitarians?

Your Biblical narrative says 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth was this really the case? These are things to consider of the cut and join human sacrifice and resurrection for atonement.

In what is now Mexico the belief that the sun needed human nourishment led to the sacrifice of thousands of victims annually in the Aztec and Nahua calendrical maize (corn) ritual. The sun - Sunday for worship of the sun?

The ancient Greeks told many myths that involved human sacrifice, which has led some researchers to posit that rites among the Greeks and Romans which involved the killing of animals may have originally involved human victims.

Greek gods and myths predate Christianity by at least 700 years and the Romans had absorbed this into their belief system. Where did the major decisions that shaped Christianity take place?

The non-Nicene Christians rejected the doctrinal formulations of the Nicene Creed, which emphasized the concept of the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus Christ. Instead, they held that Jesus was a created being and distinct from God the Father. These beliefs were considered heretical by the mainstream church and led to the formation of various non-Nicene Christian sects, such as Arianism, Adoptionism, and Nestorianism.

Paul of Samosata, who rejected the traditional Trinitarian belief and instead emphasized the humanity of Jesus Christ. His teachings were condemned as heretical by the Church and led to his excommunication.

Don't bring up another of another Sabbath as there really isn't. Original tradition had just Saturday as the Sabbath.

Explore2xmore:
Does Hadith take precedence over the Quran?

advocatejare:

Tell me where the Quran tells you the number of Rakat for each prayer if your Quran is complete and if you don’t need the Hadith before you can practice Islam

advocatejare:

So have you have now agreed that Muhammad was left unburied for 3 days and wasn’t given a befitting ghusl Janaza

advocatejare:

So how does sour wine mean poison? Is English difficult for you? So anything that is sour is poison? 😂

Explore2xmore:

The practice of Salat was not a new concept introduced by Prophet Muhammad, as it has been a fundamental part of the Islamic faith since the time of Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham). However, it was during the time of Prophet Muhammad that the specific details and significance of Salat were further emphasized and clarified.

Explore2xmore:


Poison in lieu of Water When the Christian lord Jesus Christ was crucified upon the Holy Cross, He was offered a sour, less than desirable, thin wine laced with gall.

advocatejare:


Now you want to start denying the content of the link you posted, the link said Bishri ate the poisoned food and died immediately, Muhammad only tasted it

advocatejare:

Neither Sour wine or gall is poison.

Also, I’m happy that you have accepted that Allah lied in the Quran that Jesus was not the one on the cross because you have confirmed that Jesus was the one on the cross and that he was given sour wine. You’re gradually accepting the lies in your Quran, you’re gradually accepting the truth

Explore2xmore:


Did I ever dispute it?

advocatejare:

Neither Sour wine or gall is poison.

Also, I’m happy that you have accepted that Allah lied in the Quran that Jesus was not the one on the cross because you have confirmed that Jesus was the one on the cross and that he was given sour wine. You’re gradually accepting the lies in your Quran, you’re gradually accepting the truth

Explore2xmore:


When you can point out between the hadiths and stories you rely on which is correct as to when Bishr died? Was it immediate, after a while or a year?
How do you talk so assertively on accounts that vary like this?

Explore2xmore:


Your amplified Bible says so in Psalm 69:21
They (self-righteous hypocrites) also gave me gall [poisonous and bitter] for my food, And for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink

Explore2xmore:


Your amplified Bible says so in Psalm 69:21
They (self-righteous hypocrites) also gave me gall [poisonous and bitter] for my food, And for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink

advocatejare:

Both your link and your Hadith confirmed that Muhammad only tasted while Bishr ate/swallowed, abd even at that the effect of poison was felt on Muhammad’s uvula and he kept on mentioning the poisoned food he ate as the cause of his serious illness and agonizing death 💀

Explore2xmore:


Another translation which is KJV is the amplified bible wrong? Do explain why or become an authority of Hebrew

Explore2xmore:


The link mentions the hadith but doesn't agree with it or you didn't fully read?

It started:

Many Christian missionaries gave a false claim that Muhammad died because he was poisoned by a Jewish lady.

The sources they Produce : (the hadith you replicated)

It then goes on to explain the folly in this


Also :

It’s important to understand that as a person approaches the end of life, their body begins to shut down, and their immune system weakens. This can make them more vulnerable to infections and illnesses that bring on a fever.

And since you so love hadith :
Narrated Aisha: It was one of the favors of Allah towards me that Allah's Apostle expired in my house on the day of my turn while he was leaning against my chest and Allah made my saliva mix with his saliva at his death. 'Abdur-Rahman entered upon me with a Siwak in his hand and I was supporting (the back of) Allah's Apostle (against my chest ). I saw the Prophet looking at it (i.e. Siwak) and I knew that he loved the Siwak, so I said ( to him ), "Shall I take it for you ? " He nodded in agreement. So I took it and it was too stiff for him to use, so I said, "Shall I soften it for you ?" He nodded his approval. So I softened it and he cleaned his teeth with it. In front of him there was a jug or a tin, (The sub-narrator, 'Umar is in doubt as to which was right) containing water. He started dipping his hand in the water and rubbing his face with it, he said, "None has the right to be worshipped except Allah. Death has its agonies." He then lifted his hands (towards the sky) and started saying, "With the highest companion," till he expired and his hand dropped down.
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:730

(Just before his death he cleaned his mouth and washed his face himself said the shahada)