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garetz:
If he believed so, he should have written so in his report. What is he scared of? He decided to leave the decision to others and those others have decided that there was no obstruction.

If he did so he would be throwing the entire nation into a Constitutional Crises...

Moreover he was operating under strict DOJ guidelines which specifically states that a sitting President cannot be indicted...

He did exactly what he was hired to do...

If President Donald J Trump didn’t obstruct justice he would have said so without any ambiguity...

Didn’t he say that President Donald J Trump did not collude with the Russians?

Then why couldn’t he also say in very simple concise term that President Donald J Trump did not obstruct justice...

But he didn’t...

garetz:
What was the entire investigation about in the first place? Was it not to find out if Trump colluded with Russia or not?

You’re asking relevant questions...

The Special Counsel has broad authority...

This broad authority also includes trying to uncover whether or not President Donald J Trump attempted to obstruct Justice...

That’s why he is a Special Counsel...

Special Counsel have broad authority...

All they do is follow the lead...

If it leads them to Money Laudering, Obstruction of Justice & Collusion then it has to be investigated...

Now matter how much you guys complain, Special Counsel Robert Muller is within his right to explore every possible leads...

garetz:
Are you sure you even read the summary? Or maybe you need to go and read it again. The report states that there was not any evidence of collusion by either Trump or his campaign. And those were Muellers words not Barr's. It was on obstruction of the Mueller probe that the comment you referred to was made

Didn’t I just say that Special Counsel Robert Muller said that there was no evidence of collusion?

Did you actually read my post or you just skim through them...

What we’re arguing about is obstruction of justice...

Did President Donald J Trump by his actions attempted to obstruct justice...

Special Counsel Robert Muller believes so...

If he didn’t obstruct justice then he would have explicitly stated that President Donald J Trump did not obstruct justice but he did not...

garetz:
You liberals can lie for Africa. The report was final on there was no collusion. It is on obstruction of muller that the report used that language While the report does not conclude that the President Committed a crime, it does not exonerate him. The whole Mueller investigation was to find out if Trump colluded with Russia or not. The report was emphatic that he did not. All these spin you people are trying to put on it just shows how desperate you have become. You don't want to get the truth, you just want to get Trump at any cost. The Truth is that the report said clearly that there was no collusion and now people like you and the fake news media want to make it about obstruction of what? An investigation that shouldn't have happened in the first place. Anyway, Barr and Rosenstein have both agreed that there was no obstruction anyway so that argument is also dead on arrival

We’re no longer talking about collusion...

Special Counsel Robert Muller was very clear that there was no evidence of collusion...

What we’re now trying to find out is if President Donald J Trump by his actions carried out an obstruction of justice

Special Counsel Robert Muller believe he did but Attorney General William Barr a Trump puppet & Appointee believes his Boss did not...

Now it’s left for the U.S. Congress to comb through the full unredacted Report from Special Counsel Robert Muller & then make a determination as to whether an obstruction of justice was carried out & if necessary initiate proceedings...

Again I would urge everyone to wait for the Full unredacted Report from Special Counsel Robert Mueller to avoid jumping into hasty conclusions...

garetz:
All these has to do is with the media and liberal loons trying to twist things. There was no ambiguity, the report totally exonorates Trump from any accusation of collusion with Russia. These liberals are just desperate people who want to get trump by all means whether by hook or crook. Just wait when the full report is released, they will still not accept it because they were not after justice in the first place, they were just after Trump and that's what this is all about

Again you’re making a false statement...

Special Counsel Robert Muller in his own words never exonerated President Donald J Trump...

It was Attorney General William Barr a Trump Appointee who choose to override the Special Counsel Decision...

Don’t claim that President Donald J Trump is exonerated when the man tasked with the investigative job never explicitly say so in his own words...

Again we’re no longer talking about collusion...

We’re now talking about obstruction of Justice...

Did President Donald J Trump by his actions intend to obstruct justice?

Special Counsel Robert Muller thinks so but Attorney William Barr thinks otherwise...

Well that’s why we have the U.S. Congress

Congress must investigate as to whether or not President Donald J Trump actions amounted to obstruction of Justice & if necessary determine the next course of action...

garetz:
But Mueller is still alive, do you think Barr and Rosenstein are foolish to twist the reports of someone that is still alive to deny it? Rosemstein himself has never been a fan of Trump. What you are saying in essence is that somehow, Barr, Rosenstein and Mueller are now somehow colluding to hide criminal action by Trump? That's a stretch even for you liberals. Anyway, I challenge Congressional democrats to subpoena Mueller, let him say if the summary was doctored or not.

Do you know that Special Counsel Robert Muller was not consulted before the four page summary was release to the Media by Attorney General William Barr?

Like I said before both Congress & the General Public will need to see the Full Report submitted by Special Counsel Robert Muller to the DOJ...

A four page summary report isn’t gonna cut it...

Special Counsel Robert Muller never exonerated President Donald J Trump on Obtruction Charges while then would Attorney General William Barr exonerate him without a prior consultation with the Man tasked with doing the investigative job...

Moreover it’s Congress job to investigate evidence of obstruction charges & initiate proceedings if necessary...

I still stand by my previous statement that I won’t pass a full judgement until the Full Report by Special Counsel Robert Muller is released...

oghale23:
Well, I found out that William Barr and Robert Mueller are also friends, their wives attend bible study together.

According to Wikipedia, "Barr and Robert Mueller have known each other since the 1980s and have been described as good friends. Mueller attended the weddings of two of Barr's daughters, and their wives attend Bible study together".

So I doubt if Barr will twist or cover the facts to suit his boss.

Why wouldn’t he twist or cover the facts?

He has already proven to be a biased conservative even before his nomination as Attorney General...

oghale23:
Okay, let us wait till then. But I just wanted to make it clear. To my knowledge the special counsel's job is not to speculate, if the president committed a crime, their job is to indict and if they found out he didn't, then the president is a free.

Indicting a sitting President will throw the country into a Constitutional Crisis...

Besides, I believe Special Counsel Robert Muller was following established DOJ Guidelines which specifically states that a sitting President of the United States cannot be indicted...

And for those of you not aware of the politics at play it’s very important for y’all to read the 18 Page Memo written by Attorney General William Barr in June 2018 criticizing & undermining the Special Counsel Muller investigation...

It’s definitely an eye opener...

oghale23:
So that statement has been clarified by the William Barr. The special counsel work is finished and done, no more indictments. No collusion, which was why the investigation was created and no obstruction of justice.

Besides William Barr was nominated by Trump as Attorney General after he fired Attorney General Sessions for recusing himself from the Russian investigation...

Did you actually think that Attorney General William Barr will indict his Boss?

Someone who singlehanded picked him up & made him an Attorney General...

I will leave you to answer that question...

oghale23:
If you read further it says and I quote, "The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime".

And this is what William Barr and his deputy said "After reviewing the Special Counsel's final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense".

It’s usually Congress that debates whether or not a Sitting President Commited an Obstruction of Justice...

You need to go back to the Bill Clinton Era & Nixon Era...

I wouldn’t jump into any hasty conclusions until the full report is released...

OyinbowithaTan:
99% of Americans are literate equals chaos? What language do you speak??

I don’t have time for your foolishness...

Bye Felicia...

Babyvet:
Lol , You mean born and raised in abeokuta.

I don’t think you realize who you’re talking to....

He is always looking for a way to create discord...

He loves creating arguments & chaos from thin air...

You might wanna ask radautoworks...

Radautoworks has dealt with him before...

woodsbeatrice30:
In as much as I might not be a great Fan of Trump,But am sorry to tell whining Liberals that with his exoneration by Mueller,Trump might just win in 2020..

Stop spread false news!!!

Trump was not exonerated...

This is exactly what Barr’s summary report says & I quote:

“While the report does not conclude that the President Committed a crime, it does not exonerate him”

Keyword: It does not exonerate him

Hadampson:
If you have the capital to establish a company in Singapore, you can obtain an entry pass to start living in Singapore.

Make some research if you want to migrate to Singapore.

Singapore is super expensive...

As a new migrant you generally want to avoid areas with high cost of living...

i.e. As a New Migrant to the United States it isn’t advisable to move to either New York City, Washington DC, Los Angeles OR Miami except you have friends & family who can accommodate for the time being until you find your feet...

Generally it’s advisable to move down south where you can find cities with low cost of living i.e. Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Raleigh, Charlotte, Charleston & Tennessee

These are cities that are easily affordable for New immigrants plus you can also find Good jobs in these cities...

Once you become established usually anywhere from 3 years to 5 years, you can then move out to wherever you choose to go since you now understand better the dynamics of the American System...

Ishilove:
Replied.

Seen & Replied...

Ishilove:
It's actually called 'PM'.

Seen.

Ok, Thanks...

Correction noted...

That’s what Excessive use of IG causes...

I will wait for your reply then...

Ishilove:
Oh sure. Go ahead.

Done...

DM Sent...

Ishilove:
Fantastic! So how do we start planning?

I need permission to slide into your DM...

Then we can take it from there...

Ishilove:
'Gorgeous' is an understatement. It's breathtaking.

You only appreciate the stunning complexities, absolute mystery and vibrations of the universe when you are close to nature. It does something to your soul, right down to your spirit man.

True...

Ishilove:
Ohhhh, I love surprises!

Then you're in for a treat then...

It's gonna be a memorable one I promise...

Ishilove:
What other places are like the Under?

I would rather keep that as a Surprise for you...

I love surprising people...

Ishilove:
The Under is it. It's one in a million. Is there any place like the Under in the entire planet? Don't you fill a stirring in your soul when you look at these picture ?

I do...

It's absolutely gorgeous...

Perfect venue for a Romantic Date...

Ishilove:
The Under is it. It's one in a million. Is there any place like the Under in the entire planet? Don't you fill a stirring in your soul when you look at these pictures?

Yes...

But since that's what you want, then we go with Norway...

Ishilove:
A fancy dinner in all these countries is not the plan. The plan is to have that fancy dinner in the Under. That's the whole point of the trip.

There are several places you can have a fancy dinner in the under...

Norway is not they only place...

I mentioned the other countries because they've way more things we can still do after having a fancy dinner...

Except you absolutely want to visit Norway...

Ishilove:
That would be nice indeed. What do you have in mind?

Taking you out to a fancy dinner...

Totally depends on you...

Where would you love to visit?

Dubai, New York, London OR Paris...

I let you make a choice then we can plan it out...

Ishilove:
This is so beautiful. Looking at it alone fills me with such a feeling of... tranquility

It's amazing. I will visit here someday.

How about we plan a trip together?

Wouldn't that be nice...

cuteguy201:
You can still get it, just that it involves a lengthy process.

Oceanic bank was acquired by Ecobank. All accounts are still active, just a simple change of name that took place - same way Skye Bank is now Polaris Bank, and Spring Bank now Heritage Bank. The account would still be there with the funds intact. Just have the account numbers handy.

There's something called a Letter of Administration. It's a document that is issued by the High Court to enable the children of a deceased person have access to their late parent's estate (Money in bank, shares and property).

Without that Letter of Administration, the bank would never release the money, and stubborn tenants can decide not to vacate and renew their rent if the property was directly let out by the deceased.

Now here's the catch, to process a Letter of Administration now in Lagos state, would still take you atleast a minimum of 6 Months no matter how long your leg may be. Some may take close to 2 years.

I hope this helps.

N.B.
I'm not a Lawyer nor a Banker, neither am I Government official. I just happen to have information about the subject.

6 Months ke...

So why does the Letter of administration take so long?

I will only be spending just two (2) to three (3) months in Naija.

Is there anything that can be done to fast track the issuance of Letter of Administration?

Lexusgs430:
Acquired by Ecobank......

So can’t Ecobank trace the money using the Account Name & Account Number from Oceanic Bank?

Lexusgs430:
That money don enter voicemail o............

So wetin person fit do recover the money...

I mean Oceanic Bank merged with another Nigerian Bank right?

LagosismyHome:
I thought i was the only Nigerian without a functioning Nigeria bank account.

Thanks for the gtb link. Kolping

I have money in standard trust bank but heard they no longer exist. Any ideas on how i can get my money

I don’t know...

My mum had about $3000+ in a dom Account & about #700,000+ in a Current Account both with Oceanic Bank before she passed away...

Now I heard Oceanic Bank no longer exist...

But I still need the money she left in those Bank Accounts...

I will have to wait & see if other people can contribute to this topic...

It’s very important...

Lexusgs430:
If you know someone personally in a branch, they could open a savings account for you.....

But remember BVN is now a must.........

So how do I get a BVN?

I don't have one.