coogar:

nah, the argument is who has deteriorated amongst the 2 players.



so you agree rooney is finished? before we proceed to RVP, do you agree rooney is uber-worthless to man utd and he deserves to be sold to 3SC??

elampiro:
So Coogar why did you delete these parts from Rooney's stat?

Current season
Rooney's interception. 1.2
Pass accuracy 82.5%
Dispossed 1.6


2013/14 season
Interception 1.1
Pass accuracy 80.1%
Dispossed 2.3

2012/13 season
Interception 0.5
Pass accuracy 82.9%
Disposesses 0.9

coogar:

so rooney is now a defensive midfielder & this is why interception is important? rooney is getting dispossessed close to twice as much as in 2012/13 and that's an improvement to you?

rooney's pass accuracy this season is worse than 12/13 and that's an improvement to you? elampiro, give up - rooney is finished. van persie's successful passing is 84.8% this season - more than anything rooney has managed in the last 3 seasons.

biko, we should sell rooney to ASEC mimosa.

coogar:

make una no vex......
somebody tried to play with numbers to discredit RVP that he's finished. rooney isn't even 29 yet & he continues to deteriorate every season since fergie left.

RVP was the same age as rooney when he won the player of the season. RVP was a year older than the present rooney when he won the league's golden boot. how come a young rooney is found wanting when his age-mates are tearing their respective leagues apart?

don't despair - there shall be no more rooney argument after midnight from me. [size=18pt]the next issue for me is jones vs rojo.[/size]

elampiro:
* Rooney is not a defensive midfielder so why did you bring the defensive starts such as tackles?

* His pass accuracy is better than last season.

* Your hyna makes less than 20 passes in a match. His pass accuracy is a fraud. RVP is the biggest scam of the century.

* The hyena hides during battles. FAILURE!

Rooney is far better than RVP. RVP gets dispossed 2.5 times per game. He can't dribble. He can't score. He cannot assist. He cannot participate in build up play. He cannot tackle.

What exactkly is RVP good at?

elampiro:
So Coogar why did you delete these parts from Rooney's stat?

Current season
Rooney's interception. 1.2
Pass accuracy 82.5%
Dispossed 1.6


2013/14 season
Interception 1.1
Pass accuracy 80.1%
Dispossed 2.3

2012/13 season
Interception 0.5
Pass accuracy 82.9%
Disposesses 0.9

coogar:

so why is he starting ahead of mata? have you not told us rooney is stronger defensively than mata & this is why he should play?



that's not the issue - RVP's passing accuracy beats anything rooney has produced since 2012/13 & RVP is finished?



he's a striker - he has less time to dwell on the ball than rooney who drifts all the way to the defence to be exchanging passes with blind, herrera and rojo. statistics already told us 60% of rooney's passes this season are backwards.



his job is to finish chances not run around like a headless chicken




RVP's numbers don't lie.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1736931_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

RVP destroyed rooney in all the relevant attacking stats yet again this season. your whoscored stats isn't accurate enough - they calculate per game - the true statistics should calculate per minute

elampiro:

You are making the same mistake over and over again.

* Are these the only parameters? You put area dues and clearance but you ommitted:
goals
assist
tackles
interception
shot outside the erea
take ons
dispossed
touches
number of passes made, etc.

* I am yet to see RVP's stats comparision over the last three seasons.

coogar:

so why is he starting ahead of mata? have you not told us rooney is stronger defensively than mata & this is why he should play?



that's not the issue - RVP's passing accuracy beats anything rooney has produced since 2012/13 & RVP is finished?



he's a striker - he has less time to dwell on the ball than rooney who drifts all the way to the defence to be exchanging passes with blind, herrera and rojo. statistics already told us 60% of rooney's passes this season are backwards.



his job is to finish chances not run around like a headless chicken

coogar:

stop shifting the goalpost....
you asked a question - "what's RVP good at?" i showed you the evidence why RVP is even better at what we have been told is rooney's role in the team. if RVP as a centre forward can pass more accurately than rooney, can create more chances than rooney, can make more key passes than rooney when why is rooney in the team?

van gaal already ruled rooney out as a striker & statistics have just showed us RVP even has a better stats than rooney in all the parameters required to play in the hole. so ask yourself, what is rooney good at? 60% backward passing? is that how we intend to get the best out of falcao? rooney can't beat RVP as a centre forward & he still cannot beat him from the hole.

can't you see rooney's career is over?

elampiro:

You have contracdicted yourself alot.

At one point you asked me why I brought such stat as Interceptions. So I had to remind you that you first brought some defensive stats.

Now you said RVP is a striker and as such he doesn't have to touch the ball so much. When we argue about how many goals scored, you don't always remember that RVP is a striker playing ahead of Rooney. However, as of today, RVP is goals shy. So what has he been doing? Just making 20 touches in a match. Head once or twice and give away possession three times?

elampiro: I am done tonight.

Good night. Hope we get a win tomorrow. We always lose whenever we have a long argument on this thread.

Ok, I break the curse. Fasting and prayers.

coogar:

any player can score a goal on the pitch. there's no contradiction here.
RVP is a finisher, he waits for the service. it's not possible for him to touch the ball more than rooney who goes searching for the ball in low pressure zones where opponents are not interested in marking. RVP cannot dwell one second on the ball where he's stationed as he's in a high pressure zone. in spite of that, he still boasts a better passing accuracy than rooney who drops deep beyond the centre circle to start playing useless hollywood passes to the flanks like scholes.

so why is rooney in the team? number of touches mean squat when rooney plays majority of those passes backwards anyways. it's not about how many times the ball is touched, it's about what you do with the ball. even with the frequency of rooney's touches, he loses the ball more than the others. so what's the point? RVP is better than rooney if he's played in the hole and statistics have just revealed another vital information that i have been missing since june.


www.nairaland.com/attachments/1737003_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

walahi, rooney should commit suicide.

This is a wayo stat. Take on for instance should never be about percentage. It should be how many succesful take on done per minutes played.

Goals scored: How on earth did you arrive at that? Rooney has two goals in 450 minutes and RVP 1 goal in 347 minutes.

Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo



Rooney has 1 goal in every 225 minute.
RVP 1 goal in 347 minute.


Coogar, your stats are dubious. Now I won't ever, ever, ever again believe in this your stats. You are a manipulator. Or are my eyes deceiving me? Coogar you have been lying to us since Methusela.

* Again you ommitted assists and other dozens stats that favour Rooney.

coogar:

goodnight, elampawa.
try fast & pray in sanctity. don't just avoid food & drink. avoid sex & pornögraphy as well so that victory can be guaranteed tomorrow 3pm.

sleep well, my dearest friend.

coogar:

goodnight, elampawa.
try fast & pray in sanctity. don't just avoid food & drink. avoid sex & pornögraphy as well so that victory can be guaranteed tomorrow 3pm.

sleep well, my dearest friend.

elampiro:

[b]This is a wayo stat. Take on for instance should never be about percentage. It should be how many succesful take on done per minutes played.

Goals scored: How on earth did you arrive at that? Rooney has two goals in 450 minutes and RVP 1 goal in 347 minutes.

Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo


Rooney has 1 goal in every 225 minute.
RVP 1 goal in 347 minute.

Coogar, your stats are dubious. Now I won't ever, ever, ever again believe in this your stats. You are a manipulator. Or are my eyes deceiving me? Coogar you have been lying to us since Methusela.

* Again you ommitted assists and other dozens stats that favour Rooney.

elampiro:

This is a wayo stat. Take on for instance should never be about percentage. It should be how many succesful take on done per minutes played.

Goals scored: How on earth did you arrive at that? Rooney has two goals in 450 minutes and RVP 1 goal in 347 minutes.

Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo



Rooney has 1 goal in every 225 minute.
RVP 1 goal in 347 minute.


Coogar, your stats are dubious. Now I won't ever, ever, ever again believe in this your stats. You are a manipulator. Or are my eyes deceiving me? Coogar you have been lying to us since Methusela.

* Again you ommitted assists and other dozens stats that favour Rooney.

elampiro: Ok, I shake him hand. I want go rest jor.

Odunharry: I hope LvG Drop one of Rooney or Rvp 2mao

afrodoc2: We need to offload RVP,Mata and Rooney as soon as possible.
Start with Mata maybe in January and those 2 hyenas at the end of the season. Build our team going forward on Di Maria,Adnan and younger,more athletic and agile strikers to come in.

Then we can't afford to have sicklers in defense week in,week out. We need to offload at least 2 out of Evans,Jones and Smalling and get 2 solid CBs in who can stay fit for long periods.

Then we have to pension Fletch off, he has been a faithful servant. Blind,Herrera and 2 more physical and combative midfielders are needed.
No more weakling no 10s like Kagawa and Mata EPL is not for their type.

SailorXY:
e be like say you know my mind kpere, although my own sale go start from Rooney & Smalling in January sef.
Strootman & Vidal in even if both na for 75m pounds in January.

coogar:
go & rest.
when a grown man cannot even see that mata was the player being compared to rooney in the last image then it's time to call it a day.
pray very well o. if we lose tomorrow, i shall hold you personally responsible for the loss. you & your pastor would be promptly arrested.

elampiro:
This time around, your brain freezed. How did you jump to Mata all of a sudden and you were still talking about RVP? You know that is one line of argument that could take another two hours. I could start with assist. But let's close.

Goodnight and goodluck tomorrow. May be I gat to go on break a little.

RVP is better than rooney if he's played in the hole and statistics have just revealed another vital information that i have been missing since june.

coogar:

because you are too poor at comprehending simple lines....


this was my sentence before the mata comparison.....



another vital information = something entirely different to the subject of discourse. elampawa, this na old age o. tell your madam to start adding yeast to your rice & make sure you take at least one pill of cod liver oil per week. it helps the memory.

elampiro:

You are making the same mistake over and over again.

* Are these the only parameters? You put area dues and clearance but you ommitted:
goals
assist
tackles
interception
shot outside the erea
take ons
dispossed
touches
number of passes made, etc.






* I am yet to see RVP's stats comparision over the last three seasons.