Talsima:
Shocking stats for Di Maria in 2015. Playing one of the best passing and crossing players in the world out of position is taking its toll.

Goal 0
Assist 0
Chances created 8
Shooting Accuracy 20%
Crossing accuracy 12%


I saw the above.

Hehehehehe........! see fabulous excuse " Playing one of the best passing and crossing players in the world out of position is taking its toll." Una go come dey tell us say the guy better pass hazard with useless stats Mscheeeeeew

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Hehehehehe........! see fabulous excuse " Playing one of the best passing and crossing players in the world out of position is taking its toll." Una go come dey tell us say the guy better pass hazard with useless stats Mscheeeeeew

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United Today:

Paddy McNair has signed a new contract until at least June 2017 at United - a reward for his displays during his debut season in the first team. He has made 12 appearances for the Reds this term.

The boss wasn't happy with accusations in the press that United play a long-ball game because of the negative connotations that implies. Here's his point of difference: "You have to look at the data and then you will see that we did play long balls, but long balls wide, rather than to the striker. A ball to the forward striker is mainly called long ball play. We are playing ball possession play."


Ball possession long-ball to the wide by the captain of the team

Jose Mourinho: Robin van Persie should be charged over 'elbow'

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31373879

chrisley024:
United Today:

Paddy McNair has signed a new contract until at least June 2017 at United - a reward for his displays during his debut season in the first team. He has made 12 appearances for the Reds this term.

The boss wasn't happy with accusations in the press that United play a long-ball game because of the negative connotations that implies. Here's his point of difference: "You have to look at the data and then you will see that we did play long balls, but long balls wide, rather than to the striker. A ball to the forward striker is mainly called long ball play. We are playing ball possession play."


Ball possession long-ball to the wide by the captain of the team

More like an approval of the 'long balls wide' by the boss.

He is aware of the long balls to the wide areas (Valencia, Young, Di Maria and Januzaj) but he is not correcting it, perhaps because the strikers are not freeing themselves from the opposition full backs.

If he wanted to, he could correct this style of play. However, I think Rooney stiil plays the highest number of long balls to our strikers. Some are not connected while many have been squandered.

Beautiful pass by Lamela for Kane.

Harry Kane again.

Talsima:
Harry Kane again.

he gets the CCCs
our AMs are rarely that incisive unless mata is in the hole.




juan mata at work!

make united score early 4 me

Using 3 at the back limits the movement and makes the team more predictable.
Just take a look at L'pool and Spurs.

coogar:


he gets the CCCs
our AMs are rarely that incisive unless mata is in the hole.




juan mata at work!

Who gets CCC as much as Falcao and RVP? Even Di Maria sef.

I also want to believe you haven't been watching Kane. He does the damage himself majority of the time.

chrisley024:
Using 3 at the back limits the movement and makes the team more predictable.
Just take a look at L'pool and Spurs.

but they all use lone strikers.
which of VP, rooney or falcao can you bench? the situation is very different.

Talsima:


Who gets CCC as much as Falcao and RVP? Even Di Maria sef.

I also want to believe you haven't been watching Kane. He does the damage himself majority of the time.

until you realise 2 striker system like falcao + RVP hinders forward play then you wouldn't understand. with costa, kane, aguero, etc - there are 3 creators. they are all looking at feeding the arrow head the ball.

with united - you have 2 number-9s getting in each other's way when the play converges. van gaal also uses them to play away from each other to stretch the central halves apart so that the middle can be split open.

coogar:


but they all use lone strikers.
which of VP, rooney or falcao can you bench? the situation is very different.

main reason we've lacked movt in the midfield

coogar:


until you realise 2 striker system like falcao + RVP hinders forward play then you wouldn't understand. with costa, kane, aguero, etc - there are 3 creators. they are all looking at feeding the arrow head the ball.

with united - you have 2 number-9s getting in each other's way when the play converges. van gaal also uses them to play away from each other to stretch the central halves apart so that the middle can be split open.

Gaal mistake is that he doesn't know Arjen Robben was 3 players for him. He was a number 10, number 7 and a striker for Netherlands.

Talsima:


Gaal mistake is that he doesn't know Arjen Robben was 3 players for him. He was a number 10, number 7 and a striker for Netherlands.

so what was sneijder?
number-5?

coogar:


so what was sneijder?
number-5?

Half 10, Half 11.

My dear United..

Talsima:


Half 10, Half 11.

what was blind then?

coogar:


what was blind then?

Too many questions o. Didn't u watch their matches? Sneidjer was often drifting wide from his position, while Robben had the license to play anywhere. Robben used the number 7 and middle a lot pushing players away from their positions.

Talsima:


Too many questions o. Didn't u watch their matches? Sneidjer was often drifting wide from his position, while Robben had the license to play anywhere. Robben used the number 7 and middle a lot pushing players away from their positions.

robben played as a striker - he partnered van persie. of course, he's a natural winger and a good dribbler. so he could collect the ball, run with it & cause damage.

sneijder played in the hole behind them. blind was the wing back. the cross that VP scored with a superman header from was from blind - he provided the width.

the tactics were very simple & after a while - holland became boring to watch. they set themselves to control games, not necessarily to win them.

coogar:


robben played as a striker - he partnered van persie. of course, he's a natural winger and a good dribbler. so he could collect the ball, run with it & cause damage.

sneijder played in the hole behind them. blind was the wing back. the cross that VP scored with a superman header from was from blind - he provided the width.

the tactics were very simple & after a while - holland became boring to watch. they set themselves to control games, not necessarily to win them.

I watch all Netherland's matches. I have described what transpired on the pitch and not what they were sent out to position. The last role Robben played was a striker (which he was meant to play). He was first a winger on the right, then a killer via the middle before a striker. Sneidjer was mostly anonymous. Kyte (is that d spelling again?) Occupied the right while Robben wasn't there. The wing backs were not as attack minded as they were defence minded. Robben was three man in the attack which compensated for the whole team attacking weakness.

Even against Brazil it was Robben who dribbled through the middle enroute to winninng the penalty for the opening goal. Against Argentina, there were Robben vs Mascherano situations in the middle, even in the middle left of the field.

Talsima:


I watch all Netherland's matches. I have described what transpired on the pitch and not what they were sent out to position. The last role Robben played was a striker (which he was meant to play). He was first a winger on the right, then a killer via the middle before a striker. Sneidjer was mostly anonymous. Kyte (is that d spelling again?) Occupied the right while Robben wasn't there. The wing backs were not as attack minded as they were defence minded. Robben was three man in the attack which compensated for the whole team attacking weakness.

what r u saying?

Talsima:


I watch all Netherland's matches. I have described what transpired on the pitch and not what they were sent out to position. The last role Robben played was a striker (which he was meant to play). He was first a winger on the right, then a killer via the middle before a striker. Sneidjer was mostly anonymous. Kyte (is that d spelling again?) Occupied the right while Robben wasn't there. The wing backs were not as attack minded as they were defence minded. Robben was three man in the attack which compensated for the whole team attacking weakness.

so tell me....
which game particularly was robben a right winger. i have all the opta charts of the world cup games sitting on my phone. start listing the games robben played as a winger.

A big top of the long ball table clash tomorrow, I wonder who will lob it forward more.

coogar:


until you realise 2 striker system like falcao + RVP hinders forward play then you wouldn't understand. with costa, kane, aguero, etc - there are 3 creators. they are all looking at feeding the arrow head the ball.

with united - you have 2 number-9s getting in each other's way when the play converges. van gaal also uses them to play away from each other to stretch the central halves apart so that the middle can be split open.

I think you have forgotten that Van Persie was a lone striker in four matches we played 4-1-4-1, with Mata and Fellaini or Mata and Herrera behind him. I could only remeber he scored just one goal against Chelsea.

Wser Brom 2-2 Mata Herrera Blind behind RVP.
Chelsea 1-1 Mata, Fellaini and Blind
Man City 1-0 Fellaini, Rooney and Blind/Carrick
Palace 1-0 Carrick, Rooney and Fellaini

But he paired with Rooney in a two striker formation and he scored two goals.

parrotibaba:
what r u saying?

Sneidjer was one of their poorest playerS.


I just checked whoscored rating. Sneidjer was rated 6.17 vs Argentina which was the lowest of the players that completed 90 mins. He was only better than RVP. The first I checked.

Sneidjer was most dispossed sef. No single dribble and lots more megedefede stats

coogar:


so tell me....
which game particularly was robben a right winger. i have all the opta charts of the world cup games sitting on my phone. start listing the games robben played as a winger.

Charts cannot answer this. Only heat maps. Charts wont tell you how Rooben dribbled from centre circle into the wing and cuts into the edge of the box before taking a left foot shot.

Talsima:


Charts cannot answer this. Only heat maps. Charts wont tell you how Rooben dribbled from centre circle into the wing and cuts into the edge of the box before taking a left foot shot.

charts will show where he receives his passes the most.

Talsima:
Sneidjer was one of their poorest playerS.


I just checked whoscored rating. Sneidjer was rated 6.17 vs Argentina which was the lowest of the players that completed 90 mins. He was only better than RVP. The first I checked.

Sneidjer was most dispossed sef. No single dribble and lots more megedefede stats

More on Sneidjer vs Argentina

Pass accuracy of 83% which was one of the worst. No tackle won even when RVP won a tackle and many other players won several tackles.

coogar:


charts will show where he receives his passes the most.

I didnt say he played as a winger in a particular match. I said he played free role in every match such that he was in the wings, in midfield and in striking position.