elampiro: 1. The experienced teams from EPL are Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. City in Europe is like Schalke 04, if not worse.

2. You didn't watch Italy in 2006, they were criticized for playing negative football until the final match. Meanwhile, Chelsea scored against you and also miss chances. How was that a defensive game with 10 men in the box? What. Is super cup as compared to UCL trophy.

3. Robben and Ribery are ogas. Alaba and co. Those days, Oliver 'lion' Kahn (is the spelling?) Even as a goalkeeper. Your female national teams too are like men.

elrony:
Lol ..well IMHO cleverley aint no better than fellaini sha

coogar:

jones & valencia are the worst players @ united currently. when jones is not playing as a centre-half, he's clueless.

valencia has not beaten a marker in 2013. he nearly missed his tap-in sef - the post assisted him. nani should be starting on the right.

who else can finish off teams like this?

elampiro: Jones has been our best midfield player this season. You guys won't accept it because it is no his natural position.

coogar:

miles better......
we have thrashed that topic already. fellaini only outscored him in the attacking third cos fellaini mostly played behind a striker at everton.

elrony:

Elamps..mbanu...Jones is practically our fifth defender..playing deep in front of our backline

Our technical brawler...ask ozil!!!

elampiro:

I don't understand this. Ozil is not a CM.

elampiro: Jones has been our best midfield player this season. You guys won't accept it because it is no his natural position.

elampiro:
Valencia has 7 UCL goals overall. That is decent from the wing.

Against Leverkusen, Valencia was far rated than Nani in the major sports reporting websites.

Sentiment apart, Jones has bailed us out from being overrun in the midfield than anyone else.

dayokanu:

Is it the name of the club that makes it experienced So if you bring Notthingham Forest into the CL they are experienced or Newcastle. How many attempts did it take malaga to make it to CL knockout stage

2. Give us an example of a game in 2006 where Italy was negative football. In the CL final that Chelsea won which chance did they miss? So any team that scored isnt negative? So much for shallow thinking

3. We said name in Bayern he is mentioning Oli Kahn Female National team. No wonder why they call you jester?

WHats Power about Robben and Ribery when they are some of the weakest and most brittle players ever. everyone knows Robben is one of the most fragile players ever

coogar:


jones is trash.

coogar:

is a winger meant to be scoring or providing? what about their stats in the premier league? valencia(18 goals, 43 assists in 15,148 league minutes) & nani(25 goals + 57 assists in 9,418 league minutes). numbers don't lie, bro. nani is more productive!!!



yet again, debatable....
a single match does not define who's better than who?



jones is trash.

Hugoboi:

Chai!! I don't fukcing believe this! Nigga are you for real?

coogar: @ elampiro,

chelsea didn't overpower bayern in that final. chelsea played like kittens & were too defensive. their first corner was after muller's goal in the 89th minute or so....

bayern had more possession, more territorial advantage, more chances created, etc. saying chelsea overpowered bayern is like saying arsenal overpowered united in 2005 FA cup final.

dayokanu: Mention the games Italy played defensively you are running from pillar to post. I have always said it that you dont watch games only depend on Complete Sports and pool papers

Show us where Italy played like Chelsea with 10 men in the box

Even the Chelsea owner Abrahamovic is ashamed of the way Chelsea played that season

Theres no power in Robben and RIbery its all speed and skill just like Neymar, Hazard, Mata, Reus etc

coogar: @ elampiro,

chelsea didn't overpower bayern in that final. chelsea played like kittens & were too defensive. their first corner was after muller's goal in the 89th minute or so....

bayern had more possession, more territorial advantage, more chances created, etc. saying chelsea overpowered bayern is like saying arsenal overpowered united in 2005 FA cup final.

elampiro:
Valencia played as right back too. Then Nani has played in the middle. Put these into consideration.

Jones is not trash, you have failed to see him improved.

elampiro:
If you knew what position Chelsea finished in the EPL, you would understood what I mean. They were not good, but their Caterpillar football helped them triumphed over supposed superior teams at the time.

dayokanu:


Elampiro didnt watch that match. He hasnt started watching football in that time. All his football reference started in 2008

How do you overpower a team

2012 CL final

SHots Bayern 34 Chelsea 9
Shots on target Bayern 21 Chelsea 6
Corners Bayern 20 CHelsea 1

In elampiros village thats how you overpower someone.

If someone didnt tell you the scoreline from those stats most people would think the game ended 7-1

elampiro: I don log on to my laptop. The argument is getting serious.

coogar:

that's the same position baines, alves, zabaleta are earning their stripes. if he's not scoring, he should be assisting.....that excuse is worn-out.



he's super-trash. what does jones offer us......he's 8/10 as a centre-half, 6/10 as a right back & 4/10 as a midfielder. you think putting him in the midfield to destroy should be lauded?

tackling is not a skill - it's a reactive action to nullify a mistake that has been made either by poor positioning or a silly loss of ball possession. any idïot can tackle on the pitch - i pay attention more to how the ball is taken care of after the tackle is won than the tackle itself.




they finished in that position because they concentrated on europe more than the league. they rested their best players for europe & this is why they finished 6th. had they been eliminated earlier in europe, there's no way any chelsea side under roman can finish below the 4th position.

nitlad:



Ok na. . . Leggo

Rooney will never be rated among the great players of this generation.

elampiro:
You no join.

elampiro:
Valencia should be scoring from the number 2 position? Even if he were to be scoring from there, how can that ever equal Nani's goals from the regualar attacking positions.

2. Like it, hate it, Jones is the only midfielder winning balls for us in the midfield. I believe our major problem in the midfield is the inability to disposes the opponents. That has been the problem since 2008/9. It was worsened when Fletcher fell ill and Anderson lost his marking sense.

3. Chelsea finished 6th that year because they were poor. They were not even sure of winning the UCL, hence the need to finish top 4

coogar:

you have started with this blue font again - if you get slammed by spambot, don't go screaming to koffi annan.

rafael/alves/zabaleta/ have all scored from the RB position. even if valencia doesn't score as many as nani, how come his assist tally is way lower than nani's despite playing 6,000 league minutes more than nani? that's 56 league matches head start.



we have won the title in 10/11 & 12/13. we failed to win it in 09/10 by drogba's offside goal & 11/12(last kick of the season) without having a ball winner in the team. the importance of a ball winner is the same as a fish needing a bicycle.



chelsea weren't poor - they prioritised their season & roman went for what he felt he needed the most. he wanted the champions league more than the league. chelsea were poor & they won FA cup & champions league - united were so good that season & they won NOTHING

montelik: This your love for "power" is ridiculous Elampiro. Every other word is Rooney, pace, power this, power that., Its football not boxing

elampiro:

1. The only way we can reach an agreement about the stat comparison between Val and Nani is if we can know hom many league matches Val started in the RB. How many times he was forced to drop to RB from the right wing.

2. When you say Rafael and co score from the RB, lets have the start. You will see they probably score 1 goal in 17 league start.

3. In the years you mentioned, if we had a ball winning midfielder we should have done better. However, our case was better than now because our backline was stronger with Ferdi and Vidic younger, then Brown and Oshea were still around. So any weakness in the midfield was less noticeable, couple with the fact that once Scholes and Carrick gains possession they could hold it for some good time. All these are lacking today and we are chasing our opponents around our box like school team.

4. So Chelsea decided to finish 6th to pursue the UCL they were probably the least favourite at the quarter final stage? I beg I wan sleep.