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| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by emiye(m): 10:12pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
There are several laws/ instruction in the old testament that Christians don't observe any more, how come Malachi 3:10 tithe has stayed? 1 Like |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Nobody: 10:19pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
When I see hear from people like Goshen360, I feel my heart burst with joy because there are still a few people that still take time out to study the Bible and not listen to the lies and crap that pastors throw at them from the pulpit. So you are all scared that God will fire you with thunder and brimstone if you don't pay your tithe to that thief in suit called your pastor? What a shame. I wonder where in the Bible Jesus scared people into his kingdom by threatening them for not observing religious practices and obligations. Yet your pastors scare and threaten you with poverty if you don't pay him your tithes. You blind generation.  Now I have a final question to ask all you tithers: why is it that there was never any record in the bible of anyone bringing money as tithe into the house of God, even though money existed in bible times? . But your pastors demand that you bring your monetary tithes into the church? What did Jesus talk about the love of money? God in all His wisdom knew the trappings of money hence He never mentioned bringing money to the temple. But your pastors have circumvented and twisted the scriptures and forced you to bring money as tithes to church. You better shine your eyes and study your bible. 2 Likes |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Goshen360(m): 10:20pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
emiye: There are several laws/ instruction in the old testament that Christians don't observe any more, how come Malachi 3:10 tithe has stayed? lol, that is segregating the word of God. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by jeddyMay(f): 10:21pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
Its none of anyone' business what Pastors or men of God do with d money. Its a commandment to pay it, in whc obeying it is left to u.if u dnt want to obey it, be my guest and do as u please bt remember when it has to do with spiritual things, been logical is a thing of the flesh. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Goshen360(m): 10:26pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
@ Everyone, There is a bible study thread here on Nairaland. Kindly join us every week as we dig deep into the deep things of God. Come to the religion section and look for the thread, "Bible Study on Nairaland - New Testament". We are doing Baptism, starting from tomorrow, Monday. Falsehood and false teachings in the body of Christ is crumbling in Jesus' name. You are all welcome in Jesus' name. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by iluvnaija: 10:27pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
I want to thank you all for your comments and advice. I will give my tithe to the orphans and people living with disabilities, churches nowadays has become a big business. In the late 70s and up to late 80s churches were not like this but now pastors move in convoys even with escorts and it saddens my heart that some members of the church are suffering. Once again thank you all for your comment, I really appreciate it, God bless y'all. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Nobody: 10:29pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
emiye: There are several laws/ instruction in the old testament that Christians don't observe any more, how come Malachi 3:10 tithe has stayed? Gbam!! Deut 14:22-29 Also, according to the law of tithing, a certain portion was given to the tithe payer for him and his family to sit in the Lord's presence, eat and rejoice in the presence of God. So why doesn't your pastor give you a portion out of your tithes to do likewise as was commanded by God? The sharp pastor will take everything and keep for himself. Thieves in sleek suits. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Goshen360(m): 10:32pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
iluvnaija: I want to thank you all for your comments and advice. You are welcome. I personally do not have grudges with men of God going in convoys with escorts, or churches becoming business centres, that is not what am personally against as they are signs of the end time. What am against is the falsehood of tithing in the new testament practice of the church. This is unscriptural for the new testament church. Thank you and God bless you. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Goshen360(m): 10:34pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
pDude: goshen360: Deuteronomy 14:22 - 29 KJV |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by surmeister(m): 10:43pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
Mal 3 : 10 say bring all d tithes into my house so there may b food. D orphamage is not d house of God. NO. so pay ur tithes in d church u r worshiping. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Nobody: 10:43pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
iluvnaija: I want to thank you all for your comments and advice. God bless you my bruv. You are doing exactly what Christ taught the church. And I thank God for Goshen360 who God used to open my eyes about a year ago to see many truths in God's word which is in total contrast with the crap pastors are teaching. The Bible is where the truth dwells and not in any MOG's teachings. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Goshen360(m): 10:47pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
pDude: God bless you my brother. We started a bible study thread here on Nairaland, don't miss it bro. If you can't contribute, you will learn. Join us from tomorrow sir. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by AZeD1(m): 10:52pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
surmeister:The bible says where two or three are gathered in my name i am there.......Who says the orphanage is not the house of God |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Enigma(m): 10:52pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
Poll 1 - Who is A Tither? https://www.nairaland.com/744234/please-vote-who-tither Poll 2 - Who Is Robbing God? https://www.nairaland.com/747403/another-poll-who-robbing-god  |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Nobody: 10:52pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
pDude:lol..that was funny...how does somebody who pays tithe still turnaround to steal money? They never gave from the heart , dats how..most Nigerian xtians are faithful tithe payers yet when given the tiniest opportunity they embezzle money. Who do the levites rep today?? Back then they had no land given to the tribe of levi, cos they were to work in d temple as priests leviticus 18:20,21, so the other tribes took care of them wit a portion of the produce from their land. Are pastors priests  Last time i checked Jesus is d high priest and he did not collect tithe from anybody. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by saska1122: 11:21pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
Kobojunkie:@Kobojunkie, I believe U are a very intelligent lady and an epitome of a typical Nigerian lady living in the western world. I bet if U can make me ur friend then some of my erroneous believe will be proven wrong.  I observed you tactically avoiding responding to many posts here that quote Deuteronomy 14:22 - 29 & Deuteronomy 26:12. Is that deliberate or You don't have time? As an intelligent lady, I believe U can make a more valid and objective argument without sounding 'a bully' or reminding me of the black beautiful nagging lady across my street (Cleveland Ave) in Columbus, Ohio. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Enigma(m): 11:23pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
God Himself said that "tithes" should be shared with widows and orphans. Deuteronomy 26:12
Deuteronomy 14 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by ReLaTE(m): 11:53pm On Mar 25, 2012 |
iluvnaija: I want to thank you all for your comments and advice.good |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by agiboma(f): 12:08am On Mar 26, 2012 |
yes give it to the orphanage, they need it more than these rich pastor's who fleece the masses |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by leyitto(m): 12:42am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Its funny hw pple are quick to point out dat 'pastors' are living large but everyone seems nt to notice d million n one pastors who find it difficult to eat 3-square meals..... Poster, pls follow bible injuctios to 'bring EVERY tithe into d house of God n forget sentiments, i.e. If truly u wanna pay tithe n nt just to brew a storm in a teacup.... |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by jensinmi(m): 1:12am On Mar 26, 2012 |
I really commend goshen360 on some of the points he has made. I want you to know that you can almost not change anyone's mind on this issue. POINT 1 - BLESSED TO BE A BLESSING. I believe this issue should be addressed from the perspective of God's plan for Wealth. In reading the bible, we should have realized why God blesses people and why he blessed Abraham. This reason is stated in Genesis 18:18 Genesis 18:18 - Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? The sole purpose of God's blessing is so that we can be a blessing to all those around us. I want to believe this is a basic fact that all Christians agree with. POINT 2 - GIVING IS A KINGDOM PRINCIPLE THAT APPLIES TO ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your lap. For with the same measure that you measure it shall be measured to you again. I feel it is unfortunate that this verse is almost only used in reference to offerings. This verse has no direct relationship to offerings and tithes but to a broader principle, like gravity, that God has put in place from the foundations of the earth. - For the farmer to receive, he must first give what is in his hand to the ground. - In your business, you must always find what you can give for free, for through that will more come your way. If you walk into any food court in America, you'll be bombarded by people offering you free samples of meats and other foods. This is because they understand that all they have to do is give, and when they do that, they will cause you to give back by purchasing what you like. - You have to give effort, to yield results. You cannot tell the fire to light up first and warm you up a bit and that afterwards you will go get more wood. NO. You give the fire wood and then it will give you warmth. In the same measure you give, you will receive. If you put more effort in your work, you will most often yield more than someone who put minimal effort. THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT VERSE. By the way, there are far too many examples of this to stress upon. POINT 3 - NO HUMAN BEING CAN CLAIM TO BE GOD'S CASHIER. Nowadays, some pastors approach people with the mentality of - "If you don't give me this money, then you have not given it to God" Some will say "If you don't bring this money to my church. then you have not given it to God." I hope we call all see that this is wrong. For God has no cashier, but constantly stipulates in the bible what can be considered giving to him. 1. In Proverbs 19:7 - He that has pity upon the poor lends unto the LORD; and that which he has given will he pay him again. DO NOT BE MISLED - THIS VERSE CLEARLY STATES ANYTHING GIVEN TO THE POOR HAS BEEN GIVEN TO GOD. 2. Proverbs 28:27 - He who gives to the poor will never want, But he who shuts his eyes will have many curses. 3. Proverbs 25: 41-46 : “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ “Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ “Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” THE VERSE ABOVE CLEARLY STATES THAT ANYTHING DONE TO THE POOR HAS BEEN DONE TO GOD. To Kobojunkie and others, here is the collation of all three points above. IT IS PERFECTLY FINE TO TAKE YOUR TITHES AND OFFERING TO CHURCH. HOWEVER, THE POINT IS THIS, IF THE SPIRIT LAYS IT ON A MAN'S HEART TO TAKE GIVE IT TO THE POOR, THEN HE IS FREE TO. HOWEVER, LET NO MAN DARE TELL ANOTHER THAT THE MONEY GIVEN TO THE POOR IS NOT GIVEN TO GOD. OR CONDEMN ANOTHER FOR GIVING GOD'S MONEY TO THE POOR. FOR BY DOING SO YOU ALL RISK GOD'S JUDGEMENT, AS GOD WILL NOT CONDEMN ANY MAN WHO GIVES HIS (GOD'S) MONEY TO THE POOR. Proverbs 28:27 - He who gives to the poor will never want, But he who shuts his eyes will have many curses. Proverbs 28:27 (NLV) - Whoever gives to the poor will lack nothing, but those who close their eyes to poverty will be cursed. While I understand the problems associated with giving outside the church (such as giving to your younger brother who is in need and saying you have given to God), I want to believe that discretion and God's guidance must be employed in giving whether to the needy or to churches and pastors. That is my contribution on this issue. 2 Likes |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Emylexray(m): 4:20am On Mar 26, 2012 |
goshen360:is Jesus the SON of God or the SERVANT of God?..does a servant and a son have equal right? |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by iyaegin: 5:03am On Mar 26, 2012 |
A total lack of understanding of what your Tithe is would make you ask such a question as to whether to pay it to an orphanage and with the OPT a lost of posters have been putting up probably they are atheists. thegeneral notion of today is that Pastors are stealing tithes or getting Fat on them, Yes some men of God may not be straight but you would already know that from the kind of church you are attending and the level of the word being preached in such a church.let me not digress. Please take time out to find out what a tithe is and do the needful accordingly. if you want to sow a seed to the orphanage go right ahead and be a blessing but do go pay your tithe to an orphanage and expect the blessing associated with paying your tithe properly to come to you that i can assure you. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Excuzeme: 5:08am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Emylexray: Are you a Christian? If "yes", how come you ask "this kind" of question? If "NO", then you are right to ask. Bible says and all Christians attest to it that "JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD" and no one comes unto the Father except through him! i hope your doubts are cleared now. Cheers. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Excuzeme: 5:10am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by Jem1: 9 hours & 20 minutes God bless you for this piece. “Wisdom” is truly found in the Mouth of “Babies”, according to the Bible and l am sure you’re not even a “Pastor”! |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by lastpage: 5:29am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Nicklee: What bugs my mind is the definition of 'giving to God' in this context. How is giving tithe to the church equivalent to giving it to God? And if the answer is yes, then what constitutes a church? Is it when two or three gather in God's name? I have seen churches which are so few that 90% of the membership are the Pastor's family. At what point does a group of persons transform into a church and hence eligible for our tithes? Can I decide to make myself a church (ex. start fellowshiping with my family at home and collecting all the tithes)? At what point does a person (or pastor) become a custodian of the tithes to God? This beg’s the question, as of today, “what is God’s”? I have deliberately “prefixed” it with that phrase (as of today) ‘cos things have changed over time. Christ said he did not come o completely abolish the Old Testament but TO MODIFY IT, and he did modify so many things in the “Law of Moses – where it preaches “retaliation”, Christ MODIFIED it to “forgiveness” (an eye for an eye Vs. turn the other cheek!), where it (old testament) preached Ten Commandments, Christ MODIFIED IT to “TWO SIMPLE Commandments" (Love your God with all your hearth & Love your Neighbor as yourself). Thus, as Christians, we can no longer pretend that we can "swallow" the Old Testament (hook, line & sinker) without reference to the "modification" made by Christ, in his wisdom. So, to answer the initial question: As of today, “what is God’s”? (In reference to "dont steal from God" What God demands from us today is PURE, UNADULTERATED, SPIRITUAL WORSHIP. Christ said (Law 1): Thou shall love THE LORD your GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART and STRENGTH”. He does not need money, tithe, gold or blood of animals (unlike before). So, give unto God “worship” and unto "Ceaser" (governments), Tax, in form of money. That is settled. But most importantly, the definition and origin of the title “CHRISTIAN” is from the New Testament, defined as “followers of CHRIST”. So, in everything we do, “A Christian” is someone who “copies Christ in all ways”. If Christ DID NOT DO SOMETHING, DON’T DO IT”. Very Simple! Jem 1’s post has summarized everything for us. The ignorant ones can continue giving their money away (while depriving the real ones that need it), its their money; after-all the Book of Proverbs says “A Fool will soon be parted with his wealth”! Why did the “curse” in Malachi not come on Jesus or the Apostles for not paying Tithe? If it did not, why do “ignorant Christians “shake and shiver” when their Pastors use that “curse” to love-vendor their cash? See, this is why the Bible says “My People perish for lack of knowledge”, knowledge of God’s word as written in the Bible. Christ was even emphatic when he says “Give Freely, in secrecy, that you Father in Heaven will bless you in the “open”. “Freely” means no percentage, no time, no date, no quota, no amount, just follow your heart or are we closer to God or know more about God than JESUS? Some Pastors think they are! @OP: I think this verse ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION: Deuteronomy 14:22 - 29 KJV “Then shalt thou turn it (your Tithe) into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose. And you shall bestow that money for whatsoever your soul desires , for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever your soul desires; and you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you, and your household Its Obvious the Bible allows Christians to “bestow” their tithe (if they still think it is relevant after Christ’s death) TO ANYONE THEIR SOUL DESIRES TO GIVE IT TO! Not just the church/Pastors! And l am happy that you have "seen the truth and the truth has set you FREE"....yes, free from Pimps in the house of God! l also admire people like Goshen360 who take time to share/educate others about Bible truths (thats how to preach the Gospel, as commanded by Christ!), may God increase your "spiritual wisdom". Lastpage! |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by rimzo(m): 7:15am On Mar 26, 2012 |
orekinky: Malachi3 vs 8, 10-11 King James Version says, Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. (Also Verse 10-11) Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there might be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. This passage clearly states that you should not rob God, let food be in his house, he gave you strength to make wealth, why will you now take his share to the orphanage? also with a clause that if he will not provide more food for you that you will have to take to orphanage home. Orphanage home is not God house too abi? Don't us let deceive ourself. The best place to channel our Tithe is Orphanage homes and upcoming ministries or church that really need this money. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by PastorKun(m): 7:26am On Mar 26, 2012 |
I am really glad that brethren are beginning to come to the knowledge of truth about this tithing scam and question it's relevance to christians today. Unlike before when people just accepted it because they felt their pastors could be trusted. But today people are asking questions and studying the scriptures for themselves. We now know that tithing has no basis in christianity and the modern day version of tithes(money from income version) being preached today was arrived at after fraudulently manipulating the scriptures, but as the bible says; ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free: from this wicked/ evil yoke of mandatory tithes placed on believers by mere men. |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by jensinmi(m): 7:30am On Mar 26, 2012 |
rimzo: Abi o my brother, maybe it is Satan's house  |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by emsquare(m): 8:39am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Do the ryte thing! Tithe is God money. If you want to help the orphans you can do dat but not with God ur tithe... |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by emsquare(m): 8:40am On Mar 26, 2012 |
Do the ryte thing! Tithe is God money. If you want to help the orphans you can do dat but not with God tithe... |
| Re: Advice For Paying Tithe Needed Urgently! by MmuoOkija: 9:26am On Mar 26, 2012 |
@ Topic GOD DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY!! GOD DOES NOT NEED YOUR 10% PERCENT. TITHING as it is was a Jewish law not a Christian Law. Jesus said nothing about tithing neither does the New Testament have any record of Jesus paying tithe. Jesus whom is the author and finisher of your faith spoke more about giving than he did about tithing. Even when he told that rich man who wanted to enter heaven, he said to him go sell all you have and give it to the poor. . . He convieniently omitted "Pay your tithe". O.P: Jesus said we should give. His entire ministry on earth was based on Love and Giving, not tithe. Tithing was a Jewish law and the tithes were meant for the Priests. We no longer live in the era of the Priests. By the death and Ressurection of Christ, we are all Priests (as I am an OKIJA PRIEST). This practice is only being propagated by Christians who want to fleece the people. Remember that the Law of Tithing was also a part of a series of Laws that included Dietary restrictions of what to eat and not to eat amongst many other such laws, question is why have we done away with all the other laws and kept the one law that enriches the Pastors?! Things you should always remember about Jesus; His last commandment before ascension was Love. Paying tithe is not love, Giving to the needy is Love. Mark 12:31 ESV The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” NOTE: There is no commandment greater than this. . . Not tithing, but giving. . . Matthew 25:31-46 English Standard Version (ESV) The Final Judgment 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” NOTE: Once more you will be judged based on how you gave to the needy amongst you not by how much tithe you gave to your pastors. Its funny that Jesus would omit such an important LAW such as Tithing and barely went an entire chapter in the bible without talking about Giving especially to the poor and destitute around us. . . God does not need your money. . Hebrews 13:15-16 English Standard Version (ESV) 15 Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name. 16 Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God. NOTE: Please take note once more what is pleasing to God!! GIVING/SHARING not tithing. . . The Great Commandment 34 But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” NOTE: Its funny how of all the COMMANDMENTS Jesus gave during his 33 year stay on earth, he convieniently omitted the word "TITHING" and todays ministers only have to imply that he was refering to tithes in his message. OP: Give your money to the Needy as the Bible clearly states, that more pleasing in the sight of God!! ALusi Okija The gods are wise. . . . 2 Likes |
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