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Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by jason123: 12:45am On May 20, 2012 |
^^^ I'm not pan-african, AT ALL. I'm simply trying to drive home a point. Most of these guys believe that some groups will "automatically" be with them in whatever republic they dream of. Well, the truth is, if Nigeria is to split and there is no Southern Nigeria where progressive ideas and hardwork will be our binding force; then, there will not be a Biafra with ND or an Odua with ND, neither will the SS be Niger-delta republic. We are all going to find our square root (the very root). |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by bashr8: 1:15am On May 20, 2012 |
jason123: ^^^thats the point, if finding our square will bring about peace and end the killing of people cus of religion, ethnicity etc then let it be afterall before your white masters came we were all on our own. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by bashr8: 1:38am On May 20, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: I understand why there is so much anger and hate every where now. It is very understandable. But please, I appeal to us to take a deep breath, release, then count 1-10 or 1-20 if you are REALLY angry. Then please read what I have written here with an open mind. Please I beg you.you mean well but you really dont understand what is going on , you cannot be preaching peace and progress when your neighbour is preaching death and killing your people, in such situation the most peaceful thing to do is to go your seperate ways. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Onlytruth(m): 3:10am On May 20, 2012 |
careytommy: Thank you for speaking up, because it was beginning to look like ALL Akwa Ibomites are desperately in love with One Nigeria and don't want Biafra. I have always known that is not the case, but your sister wanted me to argue with her over it. I wouldn't do that. The whole truth about myself though is that I am desperate for progress, not necessarily secession. I've stated it several times here on Nairaland that I am not a die hard secessionist. That is the whole truth. Why I and my people hate current Nigeria, is because the status quo is retrogressive and has no hope of improving. IMHO, Biafra will be opposite most things "current Nigeria". It would aim to be highly peaceful, highly just and highly progressive, and all her citizens would have a deep and abiding faith and confidence in her promise. Her citizens would be ready always to die for her. Anything less is not acceptable. That is how a country should be. 1 Like |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Sweetlemon(f): 8:45pm On May 20, 2012 |
Like I said earlier, breaking up Nigeria is not a bad thing in itself but its just not the answer! Pls people, think about it. Think about EVERYTHING happening in Nigeria today, ask yourself questions then find honest answers. Lastly think about the bloody, pathetic, devastating war that will surely come before a break-up (Let's not deceive ourselves that it will be a peaceful break-up) think about how while we will all be here fighting to survive the war, our leaders and their families would probably be safely tucked away with their loot in some exotic private island abroad! Think about how foolish that will make us look. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Nobody: 9:34pm On May 20, 2012 |
The breakup need not be violent- depends on what the Yorubas do. If they also opt out, who is gonna fight who? I doubt the SS would want to join Biafra Republic though. SS will go with South Nigeria Republic or else it'll be Niger Delta Republic, Biafra, Oodua, Arewa and maybe Mid Belt. The One Nigeria as we have now is hopeless and cannot be repaired without major restructuring. The only thing better than a breakup is true Federalism where each state governs itself almost completely, with over 90% resource control. And a weak centre handling Defence, Currency and a few other things with a ceremonial President. Infrastructure, Policing/ Internal Security, Health, Education, Resources should be controlled at the State Level |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by LogicMind: 10:10pm On May 20, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: Like I said earlier, breaking up Nigeria is not a bad thing in itself but its just not the answer! Pls people, think about it. Think about EVERYTHING happening in Nigeria today, ask yourself questions then find honest answers. Lastly think about the bloody, pathetic, devastating war that will surely come before a break-up (Let's not deceive ourselves that it will be a peaceful break-up) think about how while we will all be here fighting to survive the war, our leaders and their families would probably be safely tucked away with their loot in some exotic private island abroad! Think about how foolish that will make us look. the reasons you are giving for not breaking up are pathetic. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by dasparrow: 10:48pm On May 20, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: Like I said earlier, breaking up Nigeria is not a bad thing in itself but its just not the answer! Pls people, think about it. Think about EVERYTHING happening in Nigeria today, ask yourself questions then find honest answers. Lastly think about the bloody, pathetic, devastating war that will surely come before a break-up (Let's not deceive ourselves that it will be a peaceful break-up) think about how while we will all be here fighting to survive the war, our leaders and their families would probably be safely tucked away with their loot in some exotic private island abroad! Think about how foolish that will make us look. Ok, so what is the answer to Nigeria's problems? because with the way Nigeria is going, that country holds no future for young generations already born and unborn. Believe it or not, Nigeria is already in a war. Just because the bomb blasts are currently affecting mostly Nigerians in the north does not mean you should not be concerned. When bombs will begin to rock the SE, SS, SW, then you will know we are already in a war and there is no turning back. I trully don't know what the solution to Nigeria's problems are because it is obvious the north is finding it difficult to accept a southern president and many Nigerians are now fed up of northerners as presidents too. So what is the way forward? There is no peace in the country as it is. Kiddnapping, bombing, armed robbery, r/a.pe are daily occurences. There is no law and order and many Nigerians dream of migrating because they are fed up of the current system of things. The high unemployment rate in the country is pushing some young adults to engage in crime. I mean can't we learn from other African countries who are getting it right? |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Ilaje44(m): 11:00pm On May 20, 2012 |
Logic Mind: [size=13pt] BTW, not that I share your sentiments on the absolute side, but to put those who always fear the bloody aftermath, and the economic chaos thereafter of a disintigrated Nigeria, and often come up with the arguement that no Nations have been better after fighting a war of independence, I say here you go: Authentic NATIONS that have fared well after winning their War of Independence are those countries above and these ones below: Slovenia (from Serbian dominance) Croatia (from Serbian dominance) Bosnia i Herzegovina (from Serbia dominance) even Kosovo (From Serbia dominance) Indonesia (Independent from the Netherlands) Brazil (Independent from Portugal) Israel (independent from UK's Mandate and right of abode in Palestine against Arabs) China (Beijing) - independent from imperial Japan's occupation A lot of Nigerians dont wanna die, but surely wanna make heaven. Nigerian magic if you ask me. Anyway, I believe if Nigeria as a country play on a fair ground, we have a better chance of building a greater State as a united "country" than when we split into many countries. Although I prefer we remain one country, this however does not imply I like the mess of a country we have right now. Even at my age, I wont mind joining a revolution that will restructure NIGERIA. If I join such a revolution, my goals would include: Keeping the country one, Making her a Federation / Confederation in the like of Canada OR Switzerland Education regional - exclusive Culture / language - regional exclusive Commerce and Industry - Concurrent Agriculture - Concurrent Religion - total state abstinence, salvation should be an individual private thing Police - federal, pronvincial, communal police with checks and balances. All legally registered political parties and representative of the general public must be elected into the Police governing board The executive Council of State - will include the premiers/Governors of all the regions. The President of Nigeria will be chosen among the members of this gremium. Legislation will be Unicamera The sum of the component of Nigeria are greater than each component if we positively tap on the synergy of being a country.[/size] |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Onlytruth(m): 11:02pm On May 20, 2012 |
dasparrow: My brother, I don't think the OP is interested in any REALITY. She is more interested in fantasy, whereby somehow all these problems go away without anyone facing them squarely, and we live happily ever after. The problem with that mindset is that Nigeria has been steadily dwindling politically since the end of the civil war in 1970. Countries which we bettered before 1967 have all mostly since dumped us behind and have moved into more stability and prosperity, while we still bicker over things as simple as CENSUS and true demographics of Nigeria. Anyone can enter Nigeria today and become a Nigerian without us having a way of verifying his "Nigerian-ness". The place is an organized chaos, with people (like the OP) mortally afraid of addressing REAL issues. They would rather sweep all of them under the carpet and pray that all ends well. When was the last time you saw steady electricity in Nigeria? I can tell you that I have NEVER seen it in my LIFETIME so far, and I'm not that young! The OP should start by telling herself the truth. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by ak47mann(m): 11:58pm On May 20, 2012 |
i dont think OP is close to reality i feel sorry for her even most of the oil wells in her village are all owed by abokis in sokoto borno,kano,mina,etc to be honest that is even worst than slavery,go to Abuja and see Hausa boys with bullet proof cars dress in Arabs attire with so much money they dont know what to do with it |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by LogicMind: 12:01am On May 21, 2012 |
Ilaje44: All countries in europe has at one time or another fought for independence from other nations that wanted to dominate them. When they finally came to their senses, they decided to remain independent countries but cooperating willingly with each other. Nigeria is made up of nations cooperating forcefully with each other. It has not worked. It is not working. It will never work. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by LogicMind: 12:03am On May 21, 2012 |
ak47mann: i dont think OP is close to reality i feel sorry for her even must of the oil wells in her village are all owed by abokis in sokoto borno,kano,mina,etc to be honest that is even worst than slavery I tell you. When Biafra comes, we will have to really negociate with these people to see if they want to join us because their mentality is really shocking sometimes. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by ak47mann(m): 12:09am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind:i feel you not all of them are like OP,my girl friend is from isoko delta state trust me,they are way more clever than akwa ibom people,am not dissing OP,but i spent time with my girl and other delta state people i know delta state are more clever in SS |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by loco4love: 3:58am On May 21, 2012 |
Message to all Yoba peoples, War will come from the North and we must keep the jihadist savages from overruning our motherland. All Yoba Nationalist YOUTH prepare your minds, bodies and souls. Prepare to fight for Yobaland. Ife Ile ( Ti gbogbo Yoba ni). Ominira Ilu ni ki a jafun. Ko ni dafun awon Niggersi ton fiya je wa. We must achieve INDEPENDENCE from Niggerdom and Niggeria. Niggeria is the Black Satan that keeps us in bondage and misery. The Vampires called Niggerian politicians who fill their greedy bellies with your taxes must be crucified because if they are not punished they will feed on us till we are extinct or completely enslaved. Say no to the PDP Parasites. One Niggeria is a farce a control mechanism for the oppression and exploitation of the Yoba and Southern Masses by corrupt Western Oil Companies like Shell. May Shell rot in Hell. Spread the word of freedom, encourage one another. Acquire weapons, ammunition, grenades and rise up against the Niggerian rapists. I am your brother and faithful comrade till the end- Thunder |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Sweetlemon(f): 7:55am On May 21, 2012 |
ak47mann, Onlytruth, and Logic mind. from your recent posts it's obvious you guys do not understand my message here. Or maybe you underate me because I'm just a young woman? Ok, let me summarise my msg here: WE SHOULD NOT FIGHT OURSELVES BUT OPEN OUR EYES TO SEE THAT IT IS THE LEADERS WHO HAVE PUT SO MUCH HATE IN US THAT WE SHOULD BE DIRECTING OUR ANGER AT AND NOT OURSELVES. BOKO HARAM IS FUNDED BY POLITICIANS SAME WAY MEND AND MASSOB AND WHATEVER MILLIATNT GROUP ARE POLITICAL. FIGHT THE DISEASE AND NOT THE SYMPTOMS! AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT, LET US WORK ON OURSELVES. MOST NIGERIANS ARE NATURALLY SELFISH AND THAT IS WHAT GAVE BIRTH TO CORRUPTION! LET US WORK ON THIS BECAUSE THESE SAME PROBLEMS WILL COME TO HAUNT US IN OUR NEW COUNTRIES. And that is the bitter truth. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Ilaje44(m): 9:08am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind: That is not true. There have been EMPIRES in Europe that were made up of many NATIONS (Ethnicities) that after losing battle disintegrated, and were either absorbed by others or where some of the ethnic components were powerful enough, became independent countries of their own. The persons that dominated had been the MONARCH and the feudal LORDS, and a class of Aristocrats with limited numbers. The French revolution paved the way for the modern State as we know it today. Prior to that, the wars of the Empires have been fought by Soldiers, who by the way were "hired" to "kill" by these Empires. They were likely not even a citizen of their soldiering empires. You can not as such say all European countries fought war of independence at one time or the other. For instance, when the old Soviet Union disintegrated, not a shot was fired except perhaps in the Russia Federations proper. Luckily, history has shown that there could be a "relative" bloodless disintegration. The way Nigeria is lavishly spending more than she earns without commensurate results, might lead for instance to a possible disintegration of that Country. Nevertheless, it would still be bloody, because Africans are barbarians if you ask me. Nigerians speaks mostly the language of violence. Irrespective of ethnicity, there will be a lot of Soldiers of fortune that would like to feed on the carcass of Nigeria whatever the cost. And they would not shy away from using lethal force. Liberia and Sierra Leone are prime examples of the evil soldiers of fortune can wreck on the society. Though you may argue we are not like them, but we sure are. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Effwazobia: 9:08am On May 21, 2012 |
ak47mann: i feel you not all of them are like OP,my girl friend is from isoko delta state trust me,they are way more clever than akwa ibom people,am not dissing OP,but i spent time with my girl and other delta state people i know delta state are more clever in SS Nwanne I totally disagree with the bolded parts, those are flawed generalization. Just like everywhere else in the world, there are smart and equally dumb people from both areas. I know waaaaay too many people from Ikot Ekpene that are very intelligent than the average. I can defend that statement because Akwa Ibom is my maternal home state. Back to the OP, I don't think that she understands the magnitude of the injustice that her people are facing in the country called Nigeria (Injustices by Aboki's to be precise). Even in the high profile Eket, the residents there are are mostly Yoruba oil company staffs, while the Akwa Ibomites are relegated to do jobs such as house maids and house boys. It seems that the OP is probably a recent college graduate, tucked away in diaspora with no first hand and reliable source of information on Nigeria. I bet you she probably has never lived in Akwa Ibom based on what she stated about Akwa Ibomites being in love with Nigeria and despise Biafra. Here is the true picture, the average Akwa Ibomite do not want to belong to Nigeria, they would rather be by themselves. However, if you give them an option between Nigeria and Biafra, they would want to be with us Biafrans. My maternal grandpa was a polygamist, meaning that I have waaaaay too many relative from Akwa Ibom (Ikot Ekpene to be precise), and my interaction with them, reveals to me that they are disgusted with Nigeria and trully admire Us Biafrans. On countless occassions I have been told that we the Ibos are the only tribe that have a defined request of what we want from Nigeria. OP you need to come home or at least place some calls to your relative that live in Akwa Ibom to figure out wetin dey on ground before you come here and start spewing crap 1 Like |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Ilaje44(m): 9:35am On May 21, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: ak47mann, Onlytruth, and Logic mind. from your recent posts it's obvious you guys do not understand my message here. Or maybe you underate me because I'm just a young woman? Ok, let me summarise my msg here: Young lady, I do not think some leaders have access to remote control that they use to control the populace. Human beings are inherently abhorent to what "perceivably" does not belong to their GROUP. It is the most primitive nature of man to be so. Africans in their majority are still very primitive in their thinking, and thats why they never think there is bigger opportunities in a UNION. Your reasoning is not bad at all, but it is very wrong in the context of Nigeria, because not so many are of your opinion. You just have to enlighten them more, perhaps, they will learn, especially those who THINK they are fighting for God (which ever way either through bombs or tithes). The problem of AFRICANs not only Nigerians as you wrote and also in my opinion definitely is selfishness. If we would think about the collective benefit of using our wealth for the purposes that they were budgeted for, there would be less corruption. Their is a saying in Yoruba that goes thus: Irorun eku ni irorun eiye. When the bird is at ease, so is also the mouse/rat. If we would realize that the more people that benefit from the collective wealth, the less they are likely to go into criminality, it would go a long way in building a solid foundation for a prosperous country. Nigerians must learn that it is good for all to spread the wealth. BTW, I do not believe it is only the leaders that are at fault. Methink the followers are equally part of the blame too. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by LogicMind: 10:00am On May 21, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: ak47mann, Onlytruth, and Logic mind. from your recent posts it's obvious you guys do not understand my message here. Or maybe you underate me because I'm just a young woman? Ok, let me summarise my msg here: I say FIGHT THE CAUSE OF THE DISEASE. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Ilaje44(m): 10:22am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind: And the CAUSE of the disease among others are the followings: Lack of vision on the part of the leaders Lack of proper education of the Nigerian populace Lack of proper enlightenment of the general Nigerian populace Religious overzealotry Misplaced priorities The worship of material riches Selfishness |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by icon2: 10:23am On May 21, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: I understand why there is so much anger and hate every where now. It is very understandable. But please, I appeal to us to take a deep breath, release, then count 1-10 or 1-20 if you are REALLY angry. Then please read what I have written here with an open mind. Please I beg you. Did read all that...?Ohhh yes I did. @op.... Frank talk.... Keep it up. Front page plsssssss |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by LogicMind: 10:26am On May 21, 2012 |
Ilaje44: No sir. Those are the symptoms of the disease. The cause is almagamation of diverses nations into one useless country called nigeria. We need to de-amalgamate to get better. 2 Likes |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Effwazobia: 10:33am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind: You are absolutely right sir. Bless your soul for pointing that out. We can run all we want from the truth, but we can't hide. The major cause of our problem in Nigeria was, uniting groups and cultures that did not have anything in common except skin color. Nothing short of fragmentation should be the solutions to this our problems . Not even true Federalism 1 Like |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by icon2: 10:41am On May 21, 2012 |
Where are the mods.... Front page plsss. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Sweetlemon(f): 10:47am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind:Now are talking![quote author=Logic Mind] |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Beaf1: 10:48am On May 21, 2012 |
Sweetlemon: ak47mann, Onlytruth, and Logic mind. from your recent posts it's obvious you guys do not understand my message here. Or maybe you underate me because I'm just a young woman? Ok, let me summarise my msg here: ^^ Sweet Heart, You are wasting your precious time with these good for nothing lads. They are nothing but buncha cowards! They only know how to fight a war with their fingers on the keyboard. They are kids, even their parents were not around in 1967 to tell them what they have gone through in the hands of Gowon. They will all die like chickens, their rebel leader is not even around to guide them. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Sweetlemon(f): 10:48am On May 21, 2012 |
@Icon, thank a lot! |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Beaf1: 10:52am On May 21, 2012 |
Logic Mind: ^ The last time your parents tried to "De-amalgamate" what happened? Nobody will remember all of you. You will die as rebels |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Beaf1: 10:58am On May 21, 2012 |
Nigeria is ONE, Nigeria will always remain ONE. It is non-negotiable I say go back to your creaks! Go back to your motor spare parts shops Nothin dey happen! |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Nobody: 11:00am On May 21, 2012 |
ak47mann: i feel you not all of them are like OP,my girl friend is from isoko delta state trust me,they are way more clever than akwa ibom people,am not dissing OP,but i spent time with my girl and other delta state people i know delta state are more clever in SSYour opinion. And stay away from Akwa Ibom People. To the best of my knowledge, most easterners don't share your opinion. Even if they did, I'll still support Biafra. Why? because it'll be easier for Akwa Ibom to later pull of Biafra. |
Re: Please Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!! by Nobody: 11:03am On May 21, 2012 |
icon2: Where are the mods.... Front page plsss.No! |
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