egift:

Jonathan understands the issue of SNC. But most of his sycophants here do not. Because once the conference is Sovereign, even Jonathan will not have the power to change any agreement reached. Jonathan have said he can only agree to a National Conference. Which is nothing but a glorified committee.

And if Jonathan's is working and stop his divisive tactics, Nigerians will be more united and nobody will be talking about conferences.

Why don't you just allow GEJ plot the way toward the conference instead of telling lies?

Sam_Ikenna:
Reagan said greed is good. Mind you greed is what drives capitalism, greed is why Europe colonized Africa - I bet you're living in UK or America. Do like like Boeing, Airbus - you fly in them? Greed of their leaders pushed their nations to explore and conquer lands, seas, and space which, by implication, gave you that technology. Give me Igbo greed any day - it drives the economy.

I, as a proud Yoruba son - don't believe in greediness, nor capitalism.. I believe in pseudo-marxism, which is mixture of capitalism and marxism....

That's why we need to intimidate this timid president to give us what we want, which is regional government..

egift:

Jonathan understands the issue of SNC. But most of his sycophants here do not. Because once the conference is Sovereign, even Jonathan will not have the power to change any agreement reached. Jonathan have said he can only agree to a National Conference. Which is nothing but a glorified committee.

And if Jonathan's is working and stop his divisive tactics, Nigerians will be more united and nobody will be talking about conferences.

I don't think you are referring to this same Jonathan Goodluck

[url=http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/%E2%80%98no-need-sovereign-national-conference%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-jonathan]‘No need for Sovereign National Conference’ – Jonathan --- FEBRUARY 16, 2012[/url]

[size=13pt]President Goodluck Jonathan, on Wednesday, foreclosed the idea of convening a Sovereign National Conference, stating that the Presidential Committee(SNC) on Outstanding Constitutional Issues, headed by Justice Alfa Belgore, was set up to handle defects in the current 1999 Constitution.[/size]

Jonathan, while speaking to elders from the South-South and South-West geo-political zones, at the State House, said the Committee was set up to bring up areas of national consensus from the 2006 National Political Reform Conference for the National Assembly’s consideration towards effecting constitutional amendments.

DivideUs:

i am starting to think you are not honest about the split, but hey i actually remember you writing "I've been all over the north and love it" so for the pursuit of division i think we are on our own. SNC dis SNC dat, STORY!!

Why is it that no one see's you actively pursuing division then? Instead, we already have a mad dash for 2015, 3 years down the line!
Like I said, bro, you are simply using sophistry to cover up a longing for the continuation of the status quo.

alj harem:

I have always criticised ALL GOVERNMENT constructively viewing that we are all Nigerian and we are equal in all respect. In fact immediately GEJ won the election. As a patriotic Nigerian that views everyone as equals I jumped ship to support my New president and leader of my country. I was and still against ACN (Even Beaf can attest to that) because I view them the same.

The change started just like many posters here on Nairaland during the fuel subsidy Beaf unleashed the most hateful bigoted statement ever by calling others leeches. Insult those that don't show undying support to GEJ etc.

That sir I cannot accept. From your name, Ayo I guess you are from the west. If right Beaf sees you are a parasite. fact !

Just saying

Beaf? E don tey wey I know am o!

We are all buddies here no matter
d tribe, nationality and d likes.
I simply excuse myself whenever
d argument is turning sour for my liking.

Last thing I wanna do is being
at loggerheads!

We all learn from arguments
each day...shymmex, MsDarkSkin,
Beaf, U and others cant deny d fact.

Why do u think I have been here
all day long....not to waste my time!

The issue is this, amidst the
argument, lets respect one another!

One might be surprise calling
his/her father a 'fool' all these
while on NL.

Who knows if una be my uncles
and aunties sef!

I no sabi u and u no sabi me.
Lets deal with one another
with respect.

If someone insults u, and not
ready to apologise....then excuse
yourself.

Well, my brother I dont c Nigeria
breaking up.

Breaking up will surely lead to
another civil war, and thats d last
thing we wanted!

Lets keep praying for Nigeria.
Change is coming, and I see it
coming fast.

Politicians are opening up!

****sleeping with one eye watching
to see MsDarkSkin and Shymmex
'making out'******wink!

jason123:
Sam_Ikenna, only my parents are from Delta state. I'm from the UK (London to be precise). The only time I stepped foot in Nigeria was to do my secondary school(6 yrs) and that was in Lagos!!! I can NEVER complement liesBEAF, NEVER! I reject it!

no wonder you are the only one who asks for republic of southern nigeria.you are british,you dont know nigeria well enough.

Abeg no ves make ya body no 2 hot.
If i say sometin no good wen dem born u, u go say na mistake dem born u? Haba u dey para ooo. Anyway d prezido dey bold 2 say wetin odinary person 4 strit know.

ayobase:

Beaf? E don tey wey I know am o!

We are all buddies here no matter
d tribe, nationality and d likes.
I simply excuse myself whenever
d argument is turning sour for my liking.

Last thing I wanna do is being
at loggerheads!

We all learn from arguments
each day...shymmex, MsDarkSkin,
Beaf, U and others cant deny d fact.

Why do u think I have been here
all day long....not to waste my time!

The issue is this, amidst the
argument, lets respect one another!

One might be surprise calling
his/her father a 'fool' all these
while on NL.

Who knows if una be my uncles
and aunties sef!

I no sabi u and u no sabi me.
Lets deal with one another
with respect.

If someone insults u, and not
ready to apologise....then excuse
yourself.

Well, my brother I dont c Nigeria
breaking up.

Breaking up will surely lead to
another civil war, and thats d last
thing we wanted!

Lets keep praying for Nigeria.
Change is coming, and I see it
coming fast.

Politicians are opening up!

****sleeping with one eye watching
to see MsDarkSkin and Shymmex
'making out'******wink!

No problem

hahaha....we should be worried about what led to the Amalgamation...for it to become worrisome now...as for me it was odd and the oddity is still present.

Beaf:
Why don't you just allow GEJ plot the way toward the conference instead of telling lies?

So in you mind, going attending a burial of a Governor's mum and be questioning the amalgamation of Nigeria as the cause of all the problem in the country is the way he is planning for SNC?

What a disappointment. Kpomo, what Jonathan did is a Treasonable offense. Twist it all you can, justify it, and defend it all the way, its the facts.

VERY DULL POST!!!!! SHOWS LACK OF COMPREHENSION PLS GET THIS OFF THE FRONT PAGE COS THIS IS PURE RUBBISH KAI!!!

no wonder the standard of education is falling at an alarming rate!!!

Beaf:

Why don't you just allow GEJ plot the way toward the conference instead of telling lies?

thats the right word "plot" if its gonna be honest why plot? now you see why we dont trust ya oga? GEJs SNC my foot!!

ballabriggs:

Bia Nwokem, is it the same greed that makes Isupenko sell fake Guiness in Aba? Warn yourself O.

You can use your greed to sell fake tomatoe while I use mine to explore the galaxies, its all your decision. One more thing, the last time I checked, Igbo man was not the one leding this country - I mean greed-free country with greed-free leadership. He also was not the one allocating all the oil blocks to himself, he wasn't the one responsible for $12.5bn gulf war oil wind-fall.

I'm wondering why Greed-free ethnic groups could not tell us how our monies developed wings and went AWOL.
Hate is dangerous.

DivideUs:

thats the right word "plot" if its gonna be honest why plot? now you see why we dont trust ya oga? GEJs SNC my foot!!

Gbammmm!

all this new IDs sef.

Beaf:

Why is it that no one see's you actively pursuing division then? Instead, we already have a mad dash for 2015, 3 years down the line!
Like I said, bro, you are simply using sophistry to cover up a longing for the continuation of the status quo.

are you sure about that?
if only you knew

shymmex:

Black consciousness is not about uniting the black race - it's about solving Africa's problems based on a AFRICAN PERSPECTIVE... What don't you understand about that You're African doesn't mean you're Nigerian - can you peep the difference?? Offer your opinions on threads about Africa, not Nigeria's national issues.. This is about Nigerians - just the same way I can't badge into Jamaica's national issues... We need to solve Nigeria's problems before thinking about unity in Africa - our house is burning!!

BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS MEANS BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS. Blackness is not defined as being CONTINENTAL AFRICAN - BUT BLACK. People who are about that life such as myself believe:

You are aware of who you are as a black person and are for the advancement, upliftment and unification of the race in its ENTIRETY. There is nothing about you or your ideology that is close to what people like me who ARE as described above. And I detest the idea that you would shamelessly exploit those who are about unity and RISING to the occasion, and trying to twist it to suit your despicable cry for separation and tribalism.

If an African came to me to discuss Jamaican issues AND made sense, how RIDICULOUSLY stupid would I be to shun them because they are not Jamaican? You see, that's the difference between me and you. One does NOT have to be of a certain nationality to have a good argument. You don't know a DAMN thing about Black conciousness so don't come on here fronting.

You're retard/ed Call it whatever you want to call - but Yoruba culture is what's inborn inside of me, and what I was raised on - and that's what would definitely be my outlook to life... And the last time I checked, Yoruba is in Africa.

You are a LIVE, breathing and walking contradiction.
Period.

Mzdarkskin Mzdarkskin Onye Darkskin

Why are you not answering my question ? Are you angry at me I like you very well

egift:

So in you mind, going attending a burial of a Governor's mum and be questioning the amalgamation of Nigeria as the cause of all the problem in the country is the way he is planning for SNC?

What a disappointment. Kpomo, what Jonathan did is a Treasonable offense. Twist it all you can, justify it, and defend it all the way, its the facts.

I'm sure enough people have cautioned you on this thread for taking liberties with the truth (ayam onle being polite hia, sir! ).
If you think GEJ has committed treason, go out and say it in the streets; video yourself doing, and post the vid here (if still alive). Lol!

Beaf:

Why is it that no one see's you actively pursuing division then? Instead, we already have a mad dash for 2015, 3 years down the line!
Like I said, bro, you are simply using sophistry to cover up a longing for the continuation of the status quo.

Everyone looking forward to 2015 is a Vote of No Confidence on the mumu currently occupying the post. Don't forget that Jonathan and his team stated it just months after taking office (to clear the air whether or not Jonathan has the right to contest). President Jonathan have not only disappoint Nigerian's generally, even those that voted for him are disappointed. True OR False?

DivideUs:

thats the right word "plot" if its gonna be honest why plot? now you see why we dont trust ya oga? GEJs SNC my foot!!

Anybody in the sit of power needs to plot, becos una too de quarell like small pikin (1914 syndrome).

shymmex:

[size=14pt]You haven't answered my question...

Was Southern Cameroon part of Nigeria in 1914 - YES or NO??

Please, tell me how they avoided the cesspit called Nigeria in 1960.. [/size]

See this fowl who continues to refer to Nigeria as a "cess pit" and refers to himself as 'British'.
Smh.

alj harem: Mzdarkskin Mzdarkskin Onye Darkskin

Why are you not answering my question ? Are you angry at me I like you very well

I am not angry at you. I am just not playing your game.
Since you wanted to make it personal...

You are part Igbo but are on NL pretending like Igbos are the worst thing to happen to the nation.
That is what I am against. HYPOCRISY. Not against Yoruba (as Yoruba ppl have not done a damn thing to me) nor Igbos.

Why can't you keep it real and say "I am a product of Yoruba AND Igbo" if all Igbos and Yoruba hated each other, I WOULD NOT BE HERE"? You say I am picking sides, but unless you are speaking for the betterment of ALL Nigerians, regardless of tribe then I don't want to indulge in your conversations.

INDIVISIBLE COUNTRY.
GOD bless Nigeria

Okija Priest: This OP was concieved through a'nal fertilization... That's why he reasons through his arse...

Gosh ! This is below the belt.

shymmex:

Who cares about how you feel, just stay in your lane.. I only comment on issues about Nigeria, or probably blacks in the UK.. You won't see me talking about Jamaica to Jamaicans - nor American to African Americans... Heck, I don't even comment on issues about the UK, the country - despite living there all my life... I know it's not my country - and my opinions don't count... You should do the same, [size=18pt]JAfrican[/size]!

See confusion?

OH TRICK PLEASE

Not too long ago you tried to give a lecture on how much you know about Jamaicans and Jamaican history.
AND AGAIN: Lectured me to death about how shameful I am to not call myself African. SO SPARE ME THE DAMN BULL.

Focus on the topic. YOU have derailed it enough already.

Beaf:

I'm sure enough people have cautioned you on this thread for taking liberties with the truth (ayam onle being polite hia, sir! ).
If you think GEJ has committed treason, go out and say it in the streets; video yourself doing, and post the vid here (if still alive). Lol!

By virtue of being President and going ahead to vomit that statement, Jonathan has committed a Treasonable of Offense. If you think luring me out to quench me the PDP way, will fix it - then you are very ignorant of the fact that millions of Nigerians have died before 1914, before Independence and after 1960 just in a bid to keep this nation together.

The Fisherman cum Zoo-keeper have the effrontery to insult this Nation in one day than anyone has ever done and you are here justifying it because of the crumbs you benefit from them.

shymmex:

I, as a proud Yoruba son - don't believe in greediness, nor capitalism.. I believe in pseudo-marxism, which is mixture of capitalism and marxism....

That's why we need to intimidate this timid president to give us what we want, which is regional government..

You hit the nail at the head. However, dont join folks that intentionally want to twist the "greed" I was refering to. The point is "greed" can serve different purposes - it can lead a criminally minded person to kill while a go-getter uses his to mine minerals in Mars.

I dont subcribe to this " mindless greed" (cut-throat capitalism) that Wall Street and GOP preaches, they want poor folks to pay for high cost of health insurance with $9/hr work at Walmart. However, I dont want to live in a utopian socialist country where citizens become laid-back and then make their FG their only God.

The reason I said you hit the nail on the head is because you realized we're culturally different, hence can function well in different economic settings. Each region can choose how much of mixed economy they want should we go your route of regionalism. Its this route that sensible people have been clamoring since eons. The earlier we head that way the better, we cant all be crammed into this one-size-fits-all economy/political nonsense.

MsDarkSkin:
BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS MEANS BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS. Blackness is not defined as being CONTINENTAL AFRICAN - BUT BLACK. People who are about that life such as myself believe:

You still don't get it do you?? Black but we have PECULIAR problems.. We can solve Yoruba's problem, but using the Zulu's solution - despite being on the same continent.. Can we use Somalia or South Africa as a case study - to solve Nigeria's problem?? HELL NAH!!

You are aware of who you are as a black person and are for the advancement, upliftment and unification of the race in its ENTIRETY. There is nothing about you or your ideology that is close to what people like me who ARE as described above. And I detest the idea that you would shamelessly exploit those who are about unity and RISING to the occasion, and trying to twist it to suit your despicable cry for separation and tribalism.

I uplift my race everyday by leading a good life, and knowing what it's a to be a BLACK MAN in this wicked world... Heck, I volunteer every week to help disadvantage youths in my community; leading them on the right path; and teaching them about how lucky they're to be black and what our ancestors achieved... And basically, how we can achieved the same thing, if we stopped leading destructive lifestyles...

But I can deny my country - my country needs to fix its problem before thinking about African unity... Once we fix that, and become a 'superpower' - then, we can think about other Africans, and African unity...

I'm done with you for now... I have a peng proper JA chic (not JAfrican like you) coming to link me....

I'll have to focus on her for now, and leave you to your pseudo-history, and myopic thought process...

Adios!!

Beaf:

Anybody in the sit of power needs to plot, becos una too de quarell like small pikin (1914 syndrome).

bro u get energy o, unlike you i don't get paid for dis, I'm out! enjoy ya victory oh you didn't convince anyone sorry

Zediccus: Gosh ! This is below the belt.

So after reading the comment from Mazi Okija, it was all filled with reasoning you had to complement him. Pathetic.

egift:

By virtue of being President and going ahead to vomit that statement, Jonathan has committed a Treasonable of Offense. If you think luring me out to quench me the PDP way, will fix it - then you are very ignorant of the fact that millions of Nigerians have died before 1914, before Independence and after 1960 just in a bid to keep this nation together.

The Fisherman cum Zoo-keeper have the effrontery to insult this Nation in one day than anyone has ever done and you are here justifying it because of the crumbs you benefit from them.

Don't waste my time with your rambling lies. Simply take the challenge below if you've got the balls:

Beaf:

I'm sure enough people have cautioned you on this thread for taking liberties with the truth (ayam onle being polite hia, sir! ).
If you think GEJ has committed treason, go out and say it in the streets; video yourself doing, and post the vid here (if still alive). Lol!

egift: Mr. President GEJ Speech is a Treasonable offense because not only is it insulting to the dignity of of the Nigerian State, it as well undermines the sovereignty of the nation. How can a President of our great country Nigeria say that the Amalgamation of Nigeria in 1914 was a mistake.

Do you agree?

You definitively quoted the President out of context. It is either you did it deliberately out of mischief or your understanding of english is poor. What the President was saying is simply that a journey that started so well in 1914 has gone somewhere awry and we need to find out where and he was not wrong. Chikena