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Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 1:20pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane: @sagamite, you know why you find most women selfish and even get into abusive arguments with them?
It is because you hate when a woman challenges your ideas. If you discuss something and a woman has a different opinion to it, your first word to them is "cretin".

You finding most women "not nice" shows it is you with a problem not them. The way you interact with MOST women shows you to be a typical stereotype of a naija man.

Don't hate me, just throwing it out there. cheesy

That is purely a silly accusation.

1) If anything, I call men cretins more than I call women on NL.

2) People like chaircover, jennykadri, Missy B and ronkepb consistently challenge my views with their different views but I have never insulted them BECAUSE they apply alot of sense and logic when they talk. At least, I would most times find their arguments specious, not purely moronic. (ronkebp even had the audacity to say I have no value. She is lucky she is married. angry grin)

When I call people cretins is when they say STUUUPID things without any evidence of applying their brain. And worse still is when they don't take correction and want to stick with their fucktardism.

Now to give you evidence that I don't just throw cretin at people, here is someone that recently called me (A WHOLE ME, SAGAMITE FROM SAGAMU-EWA) slow IN THINKING. My job o. My means of livelihood: THINKING:

https://www.nairaland.com/968810/victor-moses-wigan-rejects-chelseas#11170579

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI! ABOMINATION!

But guess what? I did not insult him because I could see the REASON why he said so. And I know if I was in his shoes and seeing that, I would do the same thing or worse, so I should be willing to take what I dish out. Hence, I just explained myself to him.

That is an example of why I keep on telling everyone on NL that I am the most objective and fair person you can ever come across. (ronkebp, take note: VALUE. Your husband get this kind?) angry. Remember, I did not do that under duress or monitoring. I did that based on fair judgement where I was judge, jury and executioner. And we all know how good an executioner I am.

And no, I have no problems. Most women are just semi-dysfunctional and I don't stand for their shyt. And majority of them think as the "fairer sex" they are allowed and entitled to be dysfunctional and there should be no consequence and it should not be reciprocated.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 1:47pm On Jun 21, 2012
LWKMD!

Sagamite, those are the only handful of women you would call "nice".

You have used 'cretin' on about 98% of people you have argued with on NL, even if its on how many sugars to put in a tea. Maybe, I am even being generous with the 98%. From all your arguments, first word I see is "cretin".

I see coogar is following your footsteps too.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 1:54pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane: LWKMD!

Sagamite, those are the only handful of women you would call "nice".

You have used 'cretin' on about 98% of people you have argued with on NL, even if its on how many sugars to put in a tea. Maybe, I am even being generous with the 98%. From all your arguments, first word I see is "cretin".

I see coogar is following your footsteps too.

Okay. Let me give you a challenge:

Go and pick examples of posts where I called someone names and you think it was unwarranted (i.e. they were being sensible). Preferably pick ones that backs your assertion that I call people names because they are female and dared argue with me.

I wait.

This should be easy since you said you are being generous with 98%.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 2:00pm On Jun 21, 2012
Lol.

Ok, wait there.

P.s, my assertion is not that you call women names because of their gender but don't like most because they challenge you. Typical 1800 male. Probably also hate the idea of women voting and working.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 2:10pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane: Lol.

Ok, wait there.

P.s, my assertion is not that you call women names because of their gender but don't like most because they challenge you. Typical 1800 male. Probably also hate the idea of women voting and working.

Lets park your garri N20 conjectures for now.

Please get the posts first.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 2:15pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane: Lol.

Ok, wait there.

P.s, my assertion is not that you call women names because of their gender but don't like most because they challenge you. Typical 1800 male. Probably also hate the idea of women voting and working.

This is the same guy that hates the idea of women working? undecided

www.nairaland.com/870887/how-career-women-cope-domestic/2#10201164

Na wah for conjectures. grin
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 2:30pm On Jun 21, 2012
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 2:47pm On Jun 21, 2012
Kandiikane, you told me to wait here o.

Wey the posts?
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by pendo89(f): 2:50pm On Jun 21, 2012
sagamite

I was once in a relationship where I was trying too hard to keep it going.
It was already dead but I wanted him to walk out first without ever blaming me for not doing my part.
And the more I tried to do my best,the more I became weak and drained within because it was not being reciprocated. I lost myself in the process.
Well eventually it was over and it was the best relief for me. My life came back.
I look back and think I was either stupid or blind. But I am glad he's only got himself to blame.

That is why I doubt that you can ever please a guy except he chooses to and I can never sweat to please or win somebody's love.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 3:01pm On Jun 21, 2012
pendo89: sagamite

I was once in a relationship where I was trying too hard to keep it going.
It was already dead but I wanted him to walk out first without ever blaming me for not doing my part.
And the more I tried to do my best,the more I became weak and drained within because it was not being reciprocated. I lost myself in the process.
Well eventually it was over and it was the best relief for me. My life came back.
I look back and think I was either stupid or blind. But I am glad he's only got himself to blame.

That is why I doubt that you can ever please a guy except he chooses to.

You women are the ones frequently with the responsibility for choosing and determining if a relationship would start.

Unfortunately most of you girls like to pick guys you can't have when you are at your aesthetic peak. You like the challenge and the danger of trying to change him. You like the adrenaline rush of not knowing what he would do next. The more a guy likes a young girl, the more likely she would play up. You girls do not like the good guys then until you start seeing the decline in your aesthetic beauty and the accompanying decline in approach by men or decline in interest in you when another girl (normally younger) is there.

I bet deep down you thought this guy was not the right one for you before you started dating him?

Although sometimes good guys do lose interest. undecided

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Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by pendo89(f): 3:11pm On Jun 21, 2012
Sagamite:

You women are the ones frequently with the responsibility for choosing and determining if a relationship would start.

Unfortunately most of you girls like to pick guys you can't have when you are at your aesthetic peak. You like the challenge and the danger of trying to change him. You like the adrenaline rush of not knowing what he would do next. The more a guy likes a young girl, the more likely she would play up. You girls do not like the good guys then until you start seeing the decline in your aesthetic beauty and the accompanying decline in approach by men or decline in interest in you when another girl (normally younger) is there.

I bet deep down you thought this guy was not the right one for you before you started dating him?

Although sometimes good guys do lose interest. undecided

I have never picked a guy,Actually he pursued me through thick and thin. And when I got to know him we were just friends.
But he had a very very rough and sad past. Not criminal but cruel and abusive dad.
I started seeing those traits in him later into the relationship.He was a dove outside,very cool,but full of anger unexplainable. Exploding kind and very bitter.I think his past haunted him.
I am sure I pitied him and wanted to see him happy.But NOTHING could soften his heart.
Instead my heart suffered as I tried to warm his!
Some people are just rocks and cannot love.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 3:19pm On Jun 21, 2012
pendo89:
I have never picked a guy,Actually he pursued me through thick and thin. And when I got to know him we were just friends.
But he had a very very rough and sad past. Not criminal but cruel and abusive dad.
I started seeing those traits in him later into the relationship.He was a dove outside but full of anger unexplainable. Exploding kind and very bitter.
I think his past haunted him.
I am sure I pitied him and wanted to see him happy.But NOTHING could soften his heart.
Instead my heart suffered as I tried to warm his!
Some people are just rocks.

When I say picked a guy, I did not mean pursue him. I meant agree to date him. Women tend to have the power to make that decision.

I would be surprised you were friends and you never knew about the anger before you started dating.

Most likely you knew about it and decided he was a Happiness project you want to undertake and started the relationship.

You wanted the euphoria of being the one to change him but ended up with the hurt of him not changing.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by pendo89(f): 3:57pm On Jun 21, 2012
Your study of womanology did you wrong. grin

Well that was what and then. And we learn through processes.

A good lesson learned and am wiser now.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 4:08pm On Jun 21, 2012
Sagamite: Kandiikane, you told me to wait here o.

Wey the posts?

Aha, I'm shocked at the links.

I guess I'm not the only one even jaybee asked what got into you.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 4:31pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane:

Aha, I'm shocked at the links.

I guess I'm not the only one even jaybee asked what got into you.

So lets just say you read me utterly wrong.

I am a maverick and a peculiar person this can easily be attributed to my superb brain. I feel confident enough to challenge the norm and not to follow the crowd.

Some girls will have problems with me because they expect, and are used to, guys praising them even when they are wrong and they are a complete arse. That is suppose to be the norm and culture for "mature, real men". The ability to take a woman's shyt is the measure of maturity to some moorons.

Sagamite is not like that.

If you are nice and cute, I would call you and bluntly tell you that you are and even say how much I miss you. I am very good at praising ladies.

If you are not, I would tell you you are not and direct you on how to fck off (after a series of warning).

I am the most objective and fair person you would ever come across.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 4:41pm On Jun 21, 2012
^when I first came across you, you were very brash and crude. You remember the 'ini edo topless thread'?



I noticed a change recently when I came back, that has changed abit.
I have not received one insult from you but we will see.

I had no issues with you in general but the way you came across.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by desertboom(m): 4:51pm On Jun 21, 2012
sagamite. . . . I dey watch u.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 4:54pm On Jun 21, 2012
^you are not the only one.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 5:41pm On Jun 21, 2012
desertboom: sagamite. . . . I dey watch u.

Say wetin?

You be assassin? grin

kandiikane: ^when I first came across you, you were very brash and crude. You remember the 'ini edo topless thread'?



I noticed a change recently when I came back, that has changed abit.
I have not received one insult from you but we will see.

I had no issues with you in general but the way you came across.

Because that is what I thought you deserved!

You came across as a belligerent and biased feminist. My pet hate.

And your quick-to-insulting-of-parents did not elude class and someone I should respect. I like ladies.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 5:53pm On Jun 21, 2012
Sagamite:

Say wetin?

You be assassin? grin



Because that is what I thought you deserved!




You came across as a belligerent and biased feminist. My pet hate.

And your quick-to-insulting-of-parents did not elude class and someone I should respect. I like ladies.

Lmaoo, what? I am the most unbiased person you will ever meet. I am not a feminist. Everything thing I do, I do without being biased because I like to put myself in every shoe. I.e, I'm muslim but many will think, I am christian or an athiest because I do not impose things on people. You started insulting first, I don't insult without reason.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by luckgames(m): 5:59pm On Jun 21, 2012
pendo89: sagamite

And the more I tried to do my best,the more I became weak and drained within because it was not being reciprocated. I lost myself in the process.
Well eventually it was over and it was the best relief for me. My life came back.
I look back and think I was either stupid or blind. But I am glad he's only got himself to blame.

Have you done some self assessment to enure you have not contributed to the failure of the relationship?
Why do you think he got himself to blame ?
He might be very happy that you are gone too
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 6:07pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane:

Lmaoo, what? I am the most unbiased person you will ever meet. I am not a feminist. Everything thing I do, I do without being biased because I like to put myself in every shoe. I.e, I'm muslim but many will think, I am christian or an athiest because I do not impose things on people. You started insulting first, I don't insult without reason.

You must have said something silly for me to attack.

As I said, I don't insult for nothing and I definitely don't insult parents.

luckgames:
Have you done some self assessment to enure you have not contributed to the failure of the relationship?
Why do you think he got himself to blame ?
He might be very happy that you are gone too

She actually always comes across as a classy lady that is why I never thought to ask her this question. grin

One of the ones I feel the husband made a good choice.

If it had been most other females, I would have asked. cool
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 6:21pm On Jun 21, 2012
^ Oh, yes you do.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by Sagamite(m): 6:25pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane: ^ Oh, yes you do.

I could go back again and tell you to bring evidence of such, but that would be cruel.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by pendo89(f): 6:35pm On Jun 21, 2012
luckgames:
Have you done some self assessment to enure you have not contributed to the failure of the relationship?
Why do you think he got himself to blame ?
He might be very happy that you are gone too

Lemmie summarise it by saying,he has tried to woo me back for years but I have stood my ground.
Only a dog goes back to it's own vommit and God knows how much I gave in that relationship.Not only for him but for his sisters.
I was acting 'mother' to his sisters who were older than me and had kids!!If I tell you what I went through trying to encourage them you would think I was insane. They respected me cz I was there when there bro was trying to kick the hell out of their lives. I washed their babies,visited them in hospital,picked one's baby from a pit latrine,(that one was just a mad case)got admitted to act as mother cz she had gone into hiding,plus many other things.
And all this while I was in college! I used to pass by their home to help out cz I loved and pitied the guy.
And to add salt? it was my first relationship. undecided

When a man openly admits that his anger knows no bounds and that he's is to blame then what do you say? He admitted that he is not in control of his anger.
His own sister I rem told me to live him! can you imagine? but I wanted to be there for him because I had seen him change from a deprssed man to a lively one in the course of our relationship.
That is brief.

The biggest lesson I learnt was this 'don't fall in love too fast no matter what or don't fall in love because of a circumstance.
I strongly believe that circumstances made us meet and we tried to 'create love' out of it.Wrong!
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 6:36pm On Jun 21, 2012
Sagamite:

I could go back again and tell you to bring evidence of such, but that would be cruel.

I would do but that is a long thing to do.

Don't worry I will catch you soon and remind you. wink

@pendo, how did you manage after walking away?
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by luckgames(m): 6:43pm On Jun 21, 2012
pendo89:

Lemmie summarise it by saying,he has tried to woo me back for years but I have stood my ground.
Only a dog goes back to it's own vommit and God knows how much I gave in that relationship.Not only for him but for his sisters.
I was acting 'mother' to his sisters who were older than me and had kids!!If I tell you what I went through trying to encourage them you would think I was insane. They respected me cz I was there when there bro was trying to kick the hell out of their lives. I washed their babies,visited them in hospital,picked one's baby from a pit latrine,(that one was just a mad case)got admitted to act as mother cz she had gone into hiding,plus many other things.
And all this while I was in college! I used to pass by their home to help out cz I loved and pitied the guy.
And to add salt? it was my first relationship. undecided

When a man openly admits that his anger knows no bounds and that he's is to blame then what do you say? He admitted that he is not in control of his anger.
His own sister I rem told me to live him! can you imagine? but I wanted to be there for him because I had seen him change from a deprssed man to a lively one in the course of our relationship.
That is brief.
Sorry for your Pain
Hope you are right base on the information you provided me above
because I know people lie a lot
Hope you find happiness
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by pendo89(f): 6:53pm On Jun 21, 2012
kandiikane:

I would do but that is a long thing to do.

Don't worry I will catch you soon and remind you. wink

@pendo, how did you manage after walking away?

Ok that was my story.

But we always live again.

smiley
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 6:56pm On Jun 21, 2012
^wow, you have gone through a lot. If you can walk away from that and end up happy I guess every other woman treated like trash can.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by kandiikane(m): 7:21pm On Jun 21, 2012
That's the baby that died? Aw, how horrible.
Re: Men/is It Love Or Acts? by yme1(f): 7:33pm On Jun 21, 2012
queensmith:

I just vomited all over the gaff. . . .thank you yme! eurgh!
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Its not a must na, haba
I don't see anything wrong in popping into your man's house to cook

PS I never said that would make a man love a woman

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