davidylan: there are many ways to circumvent rule 4.

By twisting it and making it worse. Please, my dictionary is missing

coogar:

public vote ---big brother africa style!

Funny, you will see fight amongst the viewers....let the judges decide that one....if no elimination is done....this debate will not end.

coogar:

so many ways to circumvent that....but i guess it won't be needed anyways.
the debaters are attacking the issues not the person! i can work with that but
i still don't grasp what we are actually debating.

@ cuddlez,

how many words are we working with? 10,000 or 20,000? is this going to be a team thingy or one versus one ish. you need to be clear and concise about the rules, biko.
is there a prize at stake? money? a nice chic? return ticket to seychelles?

We are using word count(Oam4j would announce that soon).

What do you want for a price? Name it and its all urs!
We are funded by international parastatals that are bored sponsoring al qaeda.
We have a special escort service that doesn't believe in the "closed" sign...... "open forever" mehn!

ronkebp:

Funny, you will see fight amongst the viewers....let the judges decide that one....if no elimination is done....this debate will not end.

I am more interested in preventing readers barging-into the thread with their own opinions. How will that be curbed?

Hmmmmm!!! World war III.

I can't wait.

Havin take a lookin @ this thread, i'm kind of wandering if these debate will really come out good

Jarus:
It's good you're not seeing them pls. I just viewed everything with my mod lens and chei, if they were not hidden, this debate podium may be hotter than House of Assembly ground on a money-sharing day.

Thatz the fun now.lol

I actually viewed some myself but got bored. Would go back and check since u recommended.

So, are u for or against?

freecocoa: Let me help,he's simply saying that it will look like he has nothing to offer without some of those swear words,that they make his game thick .

I knew that rule was going to be a problem,quite frankly if such words were to be banned on here,then many of us will not appear so tough .

Thanks jare. Phew! I was already getting worked up looking for my dictionary

Sagamite:
I have my broom!

ACN forever!

The 6th rule has to be explicitly there. I am not wasting my time on "I no go carry last in public" debaters while I have a rule 4 holding me back.

If your argument is killed, you can't defend it or is shown not to be rock solid, just shut it and move on.

hehehehe

Abeg, leave torey. Ur attention is needed here:

https://www.nairaland.com/992511/women-higher-iqs-than-men

@ cudlemii did you received my mail?

davidylan:

maybe the mods shld just hide their posts. easy.

I will suggest a separate thread for the debate proper. This is already getting too long. If not, only the judges and debaters will show up.

Dear All,

So we have worked hard and come up with the rules which you have seen (and hopefully liked ) and we are almost done with everything. Having learned the lesson of listening for opinions in order to make this better we are coming up with two options and would like debaters and readers alike to choose which they would prefer.

Option 1 Debate as a Team
Debating as a team and meeting to strategise, we allow each team a chance to post something for each round, the choice of who and content of post goes to the team. They can either choose to streamline their posts in each round for potency or they can allow an individual total control over one round, each round would be unique and there would chance for members to pose rebuttals but the main thing is what ever they do represents their team. This ends a round for the judges/audience to judge and score points for the team.

At the end of the rounds the points would be tallied. The rounds would then be tallied along with votes by the audience and a winning team emerges.
This would give one single clean debate on one topic and involve everyone albeit in different capacities.
All posts will be given words limit.

Option 2 Debate as individuals
Rather than working debating as a team and meeting to strategise, we allow each debater post his argument for or against the topic, give room for all to read through , then allow each debater to post a rebuttals to any or as many of the opposing views. After that we then allow each debater to defend the rebuttals against him/his views. This ends a round for the judges/audience to judge and score points.

Those with the highest point will proceed to the next stage during which the judges will throw new questions in line with the topic to all participants and we follow the same process until the final round

The debaters will be given words limit.


As always your ideas are welcome.

On behalf of debate organizers.

maclatunji:

I am more interested in preventing readers barging-into the thread with their own opinions. How will that be curbed?

There will be time for audience/readers to post their views, any post from them before then will be hid.

@Chrisbenogor #Organisers. Option 1 is better in my opinion if you want to build a cohesive spirit on Nairaland. One-on-One debate will have the feel of a duel and there might not be generous victors and/or gracious er... losers (I couldn't find another word).

So much hidden post

Can you leave me and freecocoa in the same room so I can "debate" her properly for a good one hour?

dayokanu: So much hidden post

Can you leave me and freecocoa in the same room so I can "debate" her properly for a good one hour?

You sure say your weight reach? The girl will woundjure you o .

maclatunji: @Chrisbenogor #Organisers. Option 1 is better in my opinion if you want to build a cohesive spirit on Nairaland. One-on-One debate will have the feel of a duel and there might not be generous victors and/or gracious er... losers (I couldn't find another word).

this is an online forum for largely anonymous users and what makes it tick is the diversity of opinions, styles and personalities. What is the need to build a "cohesive spirit"?

The debate coordinating team still havent got it... drastically reduce the number of debaters (perhaps 3 on each side) and let them all go at it individually. Debating as a team? lol how on earth do you expect them to coordinate ideas?

@cuddlemi...when it comes to anger issues, i know a yoruba from an igbo person...believe mi.

Its getting warm in here....am actually doing countdown o

We are waiting for most of the debaters and Judges to express their preference from the 2 options above so we can publish the procedure details.

Please lets do this on time.

OAM4J, put this thread on the front page to garner more interest.

freecocoa: OAM4Cocoa,Abeg that 7 don do na.

you don't want people to get bored easily now do you?

My dear I think the 14 is ok too. We just dont want to be seen as refusing willing participants and we are not going to remove those who have accepted to participate. If more people don't show interest then we can go from 14 to 8 and then to the final 4.


@David

Jarus is more willing to be a judge and he is already included among the judges.

Oh wow!

7 pages and still trending, yet no point 'for' or 'against' the topic has been raised.

OK, I will be back.

I think Option 2 is better. I'm going for it.

If eventually you go for Option 1, you can still select the top three debaters across the two teams based on individual appraisal. I imagine that the top three debaters will not emerge from the same team but if they do, give it to them. Of course this idea kind of becomes redundant if Option 2 is selected.

Anyone that works for all parties is OK by me.

Option 2.

I'd go for option 2

How about we get even numbers for the total debaters
Pair them against each other in round one, give them the opportunity to choose/agree on a preferred yet to be agreed topic.

The winner of each round moves to the next round whilst repeating the same process as round 1.
I strongly believe doing it this way will not only keep it interesting, it will also make it more manageable for yourself and the judges

political topics should be debated in politics or general section if the mods cant patrol the thread.


this thread has nothing to do with literature despite literary being in the title.



but make una carry on- i already know i speak in greek.

jay bee: I'd go for option 2
How about we get even numbers for debaters
Pair them against each other for round one whilst allowing them to agree on a topic they had prefer to debate on. The winner of each rounds moves to the second round and repeat the same process as round 1.
doing it that way will keep it interesting as well as being manageable at all times

The pairing would have been nice but I foresee 2 issues:

1. We will need to have equal number of members on each side
2. We may run into pairing trouble in the next round if more people from a side should win in the 1st/an earlier round

I propose a Modified Option 2.

Pair up debaters - it is infuriating to carry on a debate when dozens of people are posting at the same time. It lacks coherence and is very difficult to follow for the casual observer.

Once the debaters have identified which side they belong, a random pairing to start with and order should be initiated, e.g. Sagamite vs Shymex.

Subsequently, the judges should allow a set time (say 1 hour) for two debaters to go at it, after which they judge and decide a 'winner'. Subsequently, the victor should face the next opponent down the list on the opposing side, while the loser drops out, then continue elimination in that fashion. If a victor chooses not to continue, the next person on that side can take over in his stead.

The last man/woman standing wins, and by extension his/her side of the argument wins as well.

In essence I have me-rixed jaybee's proposal.

Can i join the debaters? I think i have heard about OBJ

So enough cinema has been on and here I was thinking e'body is just registering names and taking seats waiting for tomorrow.
[s]Make I no lie, I like wetin una do Tpia. Maybe if we keep ignoring her like this, she would stop being antagonistic[/s]

Option 2 would be very interesting.
Its a very brilliant idea!