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donjazzet:
Whenever I read these nonsenses from you, I don't know whether to say you have a superiority complex or an inferiority complex.
And it is very ironical that the same person who feigns being provoked by the notion that "African cultures are backwards" is the same fella who consistently denigrates the entire black race. Like where exactly do you stand.

Over and over and over again, you keep saying that the vast majority of blacks are less intelligent than the other races. Do you truly believe that rubbish. And your number one culprit for this is the Abrahamic religions but somehow you convinently leave out the fact that our traditional religions are no different to those.
Please stop this African inferiority complex.
Africa suffers from the century long effects of colonization. One of which is illiteracy and under-education but we're steadily bridging that gap. You make it sound like we're just intellectually incapable of ever doing so. Please drop this narrative.

Lols, I didn't expect less from you. He said Africa suffers from years of colonialization as if the colonization was a supernatural phenomenon.

Mostly on this planet, the more intelligent people or race dominate and colonize the less intelligent race. This has happened again and again in various human eras on Earth.

I don't blame you sha. You keep exposing your foolishness and ignorance in posts over posts.
Always reacting to issues emotionally. Lols

Your problem is you post first and think later. Everyone knows the most backward continent in the world, and you're shouting colonization all about, which isn't even a genuine excuse again today.

Are African countries the only countries to be colonized in the world? Even a world power like GB had once been colonized in the past as well by Old Rome.

By all metrics experts use to measure intelligence, every intelligent person knows the continents leading and those lagging behind.

In modern times, you'd struggle to find Africans at the top of key areas of human endeavor.

If by now, you're yet to realize other peoples in Europe and Asia, and North America have left Africa far, far behind, then your problem is worse than I thought.

Look at what a so-called educated person is arguing about in the Internet age. Anyway, I'm not surprised.

You've region where the majority don't even know who their ancestors are, and which is a key sign of low intelligence for any critical thinker.

On this same thread, I stated intelligence isn't a racial or genetic thing, and I said Africans were ahead in the past.

I stated that every human, irrespective of their race, can become highly intelligent.

But colonialization, slavery, and religions have dumbed down the intelligence of most Africans over time. Environmental factors play a key role in the development of the brain, which is the seat of intelligence.

These are issues highly intelligent Africans know. But not a dull person like you.

I made a post about Isese directed specifically to Yoruba people here and this m.oron that doesn't even know what Isese means quoted me and started typing tripe making a fool of yourself as usual.

Your motto is, "post first, think later". I directed a post to a specific group of people here, and a dolt that doesn't even know where he belongs quoted me and started posting your usual garbage.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Does a poor Bolivia have the capacity 2 run a nuclear plant?

But the Russians is building it & transfering the tech 2 them.. For Africa 2 rise above poverty they need all the massive investment in industry & technology...the type of investment the US made in Taiwan, Japan & Korea.

Dey invested in Western Germany, today Germany is the biggest economy in europe. A very key trade partner with US. This is a symbiotic relatshp, u scratch my bak i scratch ur back.

But dey no get any positive interest in Africa.. 4 dem Africa is a conquered territory. They will continue 2 steal our resources 2 power dia cities & industries while we live in darkness & multi~dimensional poverty.

People like reacting emotionally to issues. The truth is the other races have more intelligent people than Africa.

And one solution to the problems of Africa is for us to have more intelligent people. Of all the continents in the world, Africa has the lowest value for collective intelligence in modern times.

That's why it's the most backward continent and the slaves of this world.

Unless most Africans prioritize philosophy, science, and critical thinking in place of religion, things will only get worse.

When you're dealing with the whites and Arabs, races with more intelligent people than Africa, you need to be smart and operate on the same thinking frequency or higher so they don't outsmart you.

But in Africa, the stupid ones who are the majority kill their few thinkers or chase them away, so the continent keeps getting worse.

So, the West, Arabs, and other more intelligent foreign peoples have been outsmarting Africans historically.

Even in modern times, the trend still continues because thinkers on the continent are few and far between, and most of these highly intelligent Africans are leaving the continent because of the unwelcoming and life-threatening actions of the less intelligent majority.

donjazzet:
Repeating a lie a million times doesn't make it true.

You are bordering on being a pathological liar because no matter how many times I elucidate on my position, you still land on that sentence. Meaning you choose to lie for fun.

Again, I would correct this notion, I said ASPECTS of African culture were and some are still are barbaric. I elaborated on that and gave examples like female genital mutilation, Infant scarring, ignorant beliefs of infant witchcraft, extreme misogyny like shaving widows hair when husband died, drinking dirty bath water of husband's corpse, zero rights of inheritance for women and so on and so on, going further back, killing of babies, live human sacrifices etcetera etcetera.

I made my points very lucid and elaborated on why we must shed these ASPECTS of our culture which were indeed barbaric and inhumane and adopt modern standards. You yourself even agreed with my point that yes, culture must evolve.

But of course I'm sure you will still repeat it a hundred more times that "donjazet calls African cultures barbaric and savage in your quest to keep misrepresenting my opinion.
You're a big dumb lying fool who knows not how to express his opinions concisely and politely. Learn!

You're not worth my time. I'm here to engage people that are sound mentally and think deeply about key issues, not an imbe.

The dolt is denying clear statements he made here that everyone here read where he said African cultures and traditions are barbaric and savage and should be abolished.

The m.oron even embarrassed himself further by saying his culture has no value. If you've a working brain, you'd know that means the millions of Igbo in Nigeria and around the world have no value.

He's so daft that he doesn't even know the key role a culture plays in the life of a human.

Arguing about a subject you don't even jack about. Instead of you stay quiet and learn, you'd be typing garbage all about embarrassing yourself in public.

He doesn't even an idea about what culture is. In my book collection, I've tons of books and research papers on culture I've read, and I should take an imbe seriously on Nairaland who doesn't even have basic knowledge about culture.

You don't know a subject and are too silly to learn. Anyone who has studied culture deeply wouldn't make those stupid statements.

Since the day you made those statements, I started regarding as one of those with the lowest IQ here. You can't make such stupid statements as an African and still lay claim to any kind of intelligence.

You can type another useless 1000-word post to explain your silly statements. You're merely wasting your time and making a fool of yourself.

donjazzet:
That bolded statement exposes the shallowness of your mind.

Today when the world is a global village and acculturation is the order of the day, you keep dreaming of reinforcing a notion of monoculturism. We are supposed to adapt and blend in with each other. Do away with archaic practices and embrace modernity but you keep emphasizing the need for us to GO BACK. One wonders what you even mean by that. What are the practical steps to achieve what you mean? Especially in the modern era.

My friend you're too obsessed with irrelevances. The modern world is a global village. We are now soo interconnected. Everyone is adapting to different things. Today the world is listening to our music. THE NIGERIAN AFROBEAT. Mind you it didn't say Igbo Afrobeat or yoruba Afrobeat or Hausa Afrobeat. THE NIGERIAN AFROBEAT. Our identity to the outside world today is nigerian. Do you think that is a terrible idea. To them Pidgin language is our unique shared identity. Our jollof rice, not indigenous to any particular tribe is our most popular food outside our shores.

That is what you call acculturation. Please stop wasting time talking nonsense and vituperating nonsensically, you've basically become a nuisance on the thread with this iridescent talking point. It's tiring.

I didn't even bother to read your nonsense.

This shows your mental illness has become severe. It was on this thread you called Yoruba culture and all other African cultures barbaric and savage. Obviously, you're not in a stable mental condition. Tomorrow, you'll say something else again.

I've better things to do with my time. The same person talking about acculturation is calling the cultures of over 1.4 billion people in a region barbaric and savage.

Were oja

The m.oron no even understand his own argument again. He started with all African cultures are barbaric and savage, and that they should be abolished and replaced with the English culture. Now, he's saying something else.

Have you recognized good aspects of your culture or the Yoruba culture now? If you just realized that at your age, then you need urgent psychiatric help.

I don't know where I'll see that time to be discussing silly topics with you in pages over pages when you don't even know what you're arguing about.

donjazzet:
Of course your default mode. Incapable of entertaining a counter point. Everything is somehow triggering for you and must devolve into personal abuse to deflect the fact that you can't make an intelligent counter.

I said we must evolve, not go back and somehow it's an atrocity for you. Grow up.

Keep typing trash all about. If you like start speaking Yoruba from tomorrow till next year, you're not a Yoruba person and will never be one in this life time.

If you're too dull to realize that there are diverse cultures around the world and it's unnatural for the whole world to have a single culture, then you're not worth my time.

I'm here to discuss important topics, not dumb ones.

Intelligent people promote good aspects of their culture and condemn the bad aspects, clamoring for their abolishment.

But a dolt will call all aspects of his culture barbaric and savage and clamor foolishly to abolish the culture.

All cultures of the world have their good and bad aspects.

I'd simply bin your mentions.

I don't have time stupid discussions.

donjazzet:
Can you point me to where I said the bolded? What's wrong with your comprehension?

I'm saying that we're supposed to be looking forward not backwards. You keep making the statement that Africans need to GO BACK to their ancient culture, to which I say no, rather we should evolve from them and embrace the modern world. I'm an Igbo man who loves yoruba foods, who wears foreign made clothes, who loves foreign movies, who speaks a foreign language that enables me to communicate effectively with a vast part of the entire globe. Bad who doesn't give a fvck about any religion. That is in a nutshell the modern man. Do you have a problem with any of that? Should this be a problem for anyone?

You really should stop this advocation of regression. Stop telling us to go back, tell us to look forward and find our way in the world.

You're too dull for me to be engaging. He's even too unintelligent to know the implications of Africans abolishing their cultures and traditions. Your mumu na follow-come.

Does this m.oron even know what's called colonialization again?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
no!
no!!

Well, if they can't treat Africans like they treat the Koreans/Japanese/Germans after the war then they have no business interfering in African affairs. They killed Gaddafi & Libya is now almost a failed State because he refused 2 be a puppet.

now French diplomatic envoy 2 niger republic say dem no dey go anywhere cox dey don't recognize the new government in the country... .no be war dem dey court so! 2 further plung West Africa/Africa into poverty & insecurity.

Yes, I know the West shares some blame. But the bulk of the blame lies with Africans. All those Africans killed by the West or even those captured as slaves, who aided them?

Their fellow Africans. Without the support of some Africans, the West wouldn't have been successful in most of their campaigns.

Look at the m.oron here calling all African cultures and traditions barbaric and savage, saying they should be abolished and replaced with the British culture.

If the colonizers and slave masters came again, this kind of person will gladly sell his fellow Igbo brothers to slavery for pecuniary gains.

He's calling for Africa to willingly submit to the British. This one is even so dull. Our forefathers fought hard to defend the native languages and cultures when the evil white and Arab people invaded Africa.

If not for their bravery and courage, African cultures and traditions would have long died and be forgotten.

But this imbe is telling people to abolish their culture willingly and embrace another people's culture that's not even better.

I told him to start his foolishness from his people at home. But obviously, it's easy to make foolish comments like this on this sort of thread where there are many i.mbes like him.

donjazzet:
How about one does away completely with both the isese and the Abrahamic religions?

Because saying people should leave Christianity and Islam but then go back and embrace isese religion sounds to me like regression.

I'm sure several aspects of isese' practices cannot be Intune with modern standards. I will hazard a guess that isese practices today still entail, female enslavement, male supremacy, diabolical practices and soo on. Just guessing here. Like, hey this part is only for men, no women allowed. Should we start reinforcing outdated practices?

You already know my response to silly posts here. I don't have time for silly discussions.

Isese is the totality of Yoruba culture and traditions. Stop talking ignorantly about a subject you know little about.

Like I said before, start your silly agenda from the Igbo culture. I'm not here to discuss stupid topics.

Posting garbage all about embarrassing yourself in public. So a Yoruba should abolish his culture and embrace the English culture that is without bad aspects.

This is what the fufu you call a brain can produce in the 21st century.

This one is so dull and unintelligent clamoring for Africans to go back to being a colony of the British people again.

Most Africans are cursed with low intelligence.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The west don't have any intention 2 develop Africa.

Is the West expected to have such an intention? Is the West expected to develop Africa? And is Africa expected to develop the West? Every race or people is after their own interest first, well except most Africans?

Lols, for most Africans, they first think of the interest of the whites, especially Isreal if they're Christians, or the interest of Saudi Arabia first if they're Muslims before they think of African interests?

Do you see why Africa will remain underdeveloped and backward for a long time so long most Africans practice Christianity or Islam? Lols, the Africans aren't even intelligent enough to know who their ancestors are. Lols, most African Christians and Muslims believe their ancestors are from Israel or Arabia even without any proof in support of their belief.

And when you say they've a low IQ, they feel insulted. Lols.

These terrorists are making Isese, Yoruba's culture and traditions, become more popular. It's important that educated Yoruba people promote the native culture and traditions and take part in the local festivals.

This is necessary because many aspects of Isese need to be reformed, and people of high intelligence and exposure are needed to achieve this aim.

There are many ancient beliefs and practices in Isese that should be abolished because they've lost relevance in modern times.

The same thing applies to other local cultures and traditions in other parts of Africa.

Highly intelligent Yoruba people should introduce philosophy, science, and critical thinking into Isese to develop this culture so that Yorubas can move forward.

Aspects such as making sacrifices to a deity, worshipping gods/goddesses, and others don't have any importance in modern times.

Oro practice should be modernized or abolished.

Africans generally should learn from history: When the colonizers and slave masters came, the gods and goddesses couldn't save anyone.

If people keep engaging in making sacrifices to, or worshipping, one deity or the other, the continent won't be able to grow and develop like other regions of the world.

And if foreign people invade the continent again in the future, they'll still be successful again if Africans fail to get rid of their ancient beliefs and norms based on superstition and fear of the supernatural.

Any culture that doesn't grow with the times will die sooner or later.

Making sacrifices to a deity and worshipping god/God have no usefulness in the modern world.

It's time Yoruba people embraced science, philosophy, and critical thinking instead of religion and superstition, so we can move forward.

Watching the outcome of this news report about the Ilorin Islamist terrorists.

DeadPresidents:
To be honest, a lot of times we overstate the positive attributes of people within the west. They are as crooked and as bent as we are. Maintenance culture? Lol. Tell that to the mfs I saw vandalizing the walls at Jännowitzbrucke and Wansee train stations.

In a typical African country like Nigeria, we've such vandals in much higher numbers, and as you said, the rule of law isn't mostly regarded in Africa.

What you just highlighted is the issue of having strong institutions in a country. That's the basic difference. Mostly in Africa, our institutions are weak, compared with those of the West.

But we both know it's people that develop institutions. Who'll develop strong institutions in African countries? The highly intelligent people that will do so are leaving the continent in droves.

The most intelligent members on this thread aren't in Africa, and only few of them are based in Nigeria.

About the issue of appeal to emotions vs. appeal to logic, we both know highly intelligent people rarely act based on just emotions. It's logic, hard data, facts that serve as a guide most times for such people, and emotions are relied on sparingly.

But religion has made most Africans so emotional. They believe so much in prayer and God's favor. A typical African will tell you it's God that develops a society, not humans.

How do you expect a people with such a mentality to grow and develop? In reality, God is just a word, a mere word. Humans and other living things do all things and co-create our realities, not God.

People need to realize this so they can keep our leaders at all levels on their toes, instead of wasting time on prayers that don't work.

popizaino:


Thank God you didn't add religion this time around.

It's actually the number one factor because of its influence on a person's mental capacity. That's why I talked about it in my earlier post on this issue.

Any society without a healthy number of thinkers won't grow and develop. And usually, those thinkers are the freethinkers, some highly intelligent religious people (not the religious zombies), and some of those gay and lesbian people often prosecuted unjustly by ignorant Africans.

Spy360:
Africa is still suffering from the effects of Western colonisation. Africa for example should be a single nation state as being proposed by Julius Malema. But we were shredded into bits of mostly landlocked pieces just so that those Western countries can still maintain their share in Africa.

Look at Europe, one economy, no visas. Look at USA, look at Russia, look at China. Africa should be a single economic (at least) entity.

Everything boils down to the mental capacity of the average African. A number of the top countries today had also been colonized at one point or the other in their history, even including the Great Britain.

A number of world powers today suffered serious calamities because of wars in the past. Examples are Germany, Japan. Yet citizens of these countries invested a lot of time, mental energy, effort to build their country again into destinations that many of us admire today.

We can't keep blaming the colonizers now and then. Since Nigeria gained the so-called independence, what tangible feats have successive governments achieved?

Is the country getting better or worse after independence?

The problem of Africa is the relatively low IQ of most people on the continent.

If Africans and Europeans switch places today, give both peoples 5 or 10 years. Africans would turn the present-day Europe into Africa and Europeans would transform the present-day Africa into Europe.

Before you know it, Africans would damage places like Great Britain, Germany, France, and co we're admiring today. Those top countries will become an eye sore because of the poor maintenance culture of the average African.

We see this play out now and then when the government builds public facilities that look attractive and pleasant at the beginning, and before you know it, Nigerians would start stealing some parts or amenities of these facilities and damage the infrastructure.

Just give Lagosians a few months; that Lagos Blue Rail Line will wear a new look unless the government monitors people closely using CCTV systems and punish offenders that misuse the facility.

Is the West also responsible for the poor maintenance culture of the average Nigerian?

Spy360:
You will only invite A001 to begin his lecture on how stupid we all are.

The point is not whether we watch European football more than African football. The question is if we are forced to watch it against our wishes.

Okpa's reply say it all, our relationship with the West should be symbiotic not parasitic. The way it is now is parasitic. Simple.

Africans have the bulk of the blame as far as the poor state of things on the continent are concerned. Only Africans can really change the conditions of the continent. You can't keep blaming the West every time.

As of now, Africa is still under Europe and Arabia as slaves, and the region will remain so for a long time.

Most Africans worship the God of the whites and Arabs, speak their language as the primary means of communication, prefer to name their kids using European or Arabic names, consider their ancestors as demonic while worshipping the ancestors of Europeans and Arabs.

The continent can't develop with this kind of slave mentality. The continent as a whole is still in slavery.

It takes a lot of intelligence and will to build a functional and prosperous society, and most Africans just don't have the required mental capacity.

It's just the plain truth. Blame your fellow Africans, not the West.

Development starts from the head, from having the right mindset, not a slave mentality. It starts from reforming the local cultures and traditions using philosophy, science, and critical thinking.

Most modern Africans don't have the mental capacity for these.

Without a healthy number of Africans embracing philosophy, science, and critical thinking in place of religion, especially Christianity and Islam, and getting rid of their ancient norms and cultural practices prevalent in African societies, Africa won't develop and grow.

Most of you people here blaming the West for Africa's woes are either Christians or Muslims. You're blaming the West without looking inward.

The more those two religions grow and develop on this continent, the faster Africa as a continent becomes worse. Only highly intelligent Africans understand this simple fact.

Africans should take responsibility for their action or inaction and stop blaming the West.

This Boli na clown. How many players are we going to sign in a single transfer window? And most of the signings are even poor and potentials. Mchew. Dis clown wan wreck Chelsea

Lukaku to Roma on loan. Done deal.

Fictitious Jesus Christ in the mud. Lols

A disaster struck the shrine of their idol at Makkah last week. Nairaland sef no carry the news. I just watched the news report on AlJazeerah last week and laughed.

If this happened to any of the local shrines, the Muslims no go let us hear word.

If you like pray in the name of the Arabian idol from now till next year, you'll still have your fair or unfair share of problems in life, and Allah won't be able to help you just like he couldn't protect his shrine last week from the disaster and also from the damaging impact of COVID-19.

Lols

Yesterday, two of the three Isese practitioners remanded unjustly in a prison by the Ilorin Islamist terrorists were freed by court orders. It's expected that Tani Olorun, the third person, will regain his freedom next week.

It's the police and thugs that Muslims are using to fight for their weak god now. Lols, they take up arms for their Arabian idol because they know he's useless and weak.

Even if you didn't know before, these recent events should be enough to show you that religion is man-made. God, just like religion, is purely a human invention and social construct.

airmark:
Yeah, just finished watching the highlights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrGP6G4yjRg

Not convinced this Sanchez is better than Kepa in between the sticks. Sanchez looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

BlueMann:
Omo

Looks like a loan deal sha

Ansu Fati to Brighton on course, according to Fabrizio.

Penarity. Noni makes it 1-1

Lols, daddy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-_PjfR5HoY?si=cB-noUZWwr25uAKu

Ibime:
We spent £20m all in on 6 months loan for Felix for nothing and you say we should extend him for another 6 months. First of all no club will allow you take a player of that expense on 1st half of year loan anyway, they want to get rid for the full year at least. Engage your brain.

We got a maga offer of £65m for Havertz and you said we should look a gift horse in the mouth and turn it down till January when he will probably have no suitors and only 18 months left on his contract. Engage your brain.

Emile Smith Rowe been injured all year and is not even the RW we are seeking. We have enough people capable of playing AM from Nkunku to Chukwuemeka to chaos causer, and can even play 4-3-3 with Lavia, Enzo and Caicedo, you said we should choose Smith Rowe over Raphinha cos he plays AM. When we have no RW, furthermore Raphinha can even play AM

If it's this hard to engage your brain before typing, I wonder how hard you will find it to engage it before speaking.

Lols

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
....lol, i dey respect my host. I no fit do omabe festival for FCT.

abeg give me date for issese festival in Ilorin? we must promote indigenous culture/religion.

Isese festivals are celebrated now and then in almost all the major towns in Yorubaland, and Ilorin will soon join them again just like it was in the past.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I just want 2 knw d new date for isese in ilorin.... I no wan miss d festival.

You don attend your own local festivals over there finish abi

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
cc:
A001

omo e be like dis isese matter neva end 4 ilorin, abeg wetin be d scores? i hear some dey use basket collect g0als? hw many dey prison

What's your concern in this matter that involves Yoruba people? It's a case between two Yoruba groups: The first group contains Yorubas fighting for the Yoruba culture and traditions, and the other group contains Yoruba people, who are under Arabs as slaves.

How does this matter concern you?