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I'm really impressed with this news report about India changing its name to Bharat. I'd be on the lookout to see if it's a permanent change or it'd be used alongside its current name.

The country's leadership is really making key advances and showing signs of a soon-to be world power. I won't be surprised if India, or Bharat, becomes a world power in the next 50 to 100 years.

The Indians have established the required foundations to achieve this feat, and if they continue on this path, they may become a world power around that period or even shorter if nature favors them.

However, African countries still have a very long way to go as the continent is still under Europe and Arabia.

It's more of mental enslavement now and less of the physical type.

To get rid of the mental enslavement, that won't take less than 50 or 100 years of serious work before one can even talk of any of the country becoming a world power. That's even if the many people of the continent successfully break the shackles of their European and Arab masters within that period.

That "Jagun Jagun" is a masterpiece of thespian Femi Adebayo in many aspects: philosophy, rhetorics, poems, and others.

The first set of sentences in the intro itself is pregnant with meanings. But only Yoruba people and those that understand the language deeply can understand.

Yoruba language is really a great language.

Theflint1:
This is pretty interesting, you should consider collaborating on sci-fi. I liked that Jagun Jagun seemed to explain some spiritual ideas practically, like that scene where those guys brought out a gun to shoot the woman from the spirit realm, na normal talk when dem dey talk spirituality, when they say dem shoot person gun....it was nice seeing it play out in a movie as is, and not symbolized by something different (say blowing powder or something, even though they indeed meant was a person being shot.

People that did those feats in the past were just manipulating the segments of the EM spectrum that they know the humans they molded couldn't see.

When the entities people worship as God today molded past humans, they deliberated dumbed down all their physical and mental features so they can rule over them for long.

So, those gods knew the limitations of the humans they designed and would explore those limitations by hiding things or themselves in segments of the EM spectrum the average person cannot see.

To the gods, all their feats were scientific and natural, but to their creatures who are limited in many ways, those feats were supernatural or spiritual.

But whether something is natural or supernatural is a matter of perspective. It's relative.

That's the origin of all those tales about some warriors making guns appear or disappear in battle. It's the game of hide and seek the gods used to play.

However, I think they all either left the Earth with the knowledge of the technology or died from other causes. I think it's tricks (illusions), stories and myths that are left in modern times.

A lot of knowledge is dead and buried, though once modern scientists make certain breakthroughs in the physics and mathematics of the unphysical aspects of nature in the future, a lot of things will be revealed and a lot of changes will happen.

airmark:
Maybe you will skedaddle when you go deeper and know more, like you did in Islam.

Lols, very funny. Islam is my religion of birth. I was indoctrinated and forced to engage in it from childhood.

If I had a choice and knew everything I know now as a child, I'd have remained an agnostic, which is the state of every human when they're born.

Fortunately, on reaching adulthood, I was lucky to interact with some highly intelligent people on Nairaland, which allowed me to research the history of the religion deeply and left it some years ago.

Now, I don't immerse myself in a specific philosophy, however great it's. So, yes, if I go deeper into Ifa and become initiated as an onifa (a priest of Ifa or babalawo), I'd still leave it later and become a freethinker.

But I don't really have the time or interest for such things. So, I don't immerse myself in a specific philosophy.

I read wide from diverse philosophies. Only a low-level thinker worships his mate as a god/God and immerses himself in that god's philosophy, which people call a religion, instead of creating his own philosophy to live by.

I don't worship any god/God. Now and in the foreseeable future, I'd always be a freethinker and an agnostic. Some people might call themselves pure atheists in the West.

However, I pity any freethinker in Africa that embraces pure atheism. It doesn't make sense and is a risky position to adopt in Africa.

Agnosticism, whether leaning towards theism, deism, or atheism, is actually the most reasonable position for freethinkers.

Some m.orons actually think my support for Otem means I follow his philosophy. But Otem himself knows I regard his works critically and put them through a test of scrutiny and logic.

Those that gave the book to him even urged readers to adopt this critical/skeptical approach as all of them were atheists and agnostics during their times on Earth.

Theflint1:
This is pretty interesting, your ideas would make for some interesting sci-fi.

Yea, that's true, though they're actually past technologies, which will soon be developed by scientists of the modern world as things in nature occur in cycles.

Oasis003:


......Ẹ̀gbọ́n 001 má pá mi na. Kúkú referred Ifá as abacus computer bro, since Ipede is now programming.

Those that are well versed in Ifa would understand me clearly, even though personally, the little I know about Ifa when blended with my knowledge of Physics, actually gives me a deeper picture of reality.

All forms of programming are a kind of communication.

Ìpèdè: Programming

I was watching the epic movie, "Jagun Jagun", with someone last month. In one of the scenes involving Gbotija, a major character in the movie, was engaging in Ìpèdè, a word in Yoruba language or Isese that means "chanting".

But it's actually a form of programming, or better still, a mode of communication: It was interesting seeing him communicate with the trees to render some assistance to him.

I told the person I was watching the movie with that in the future, scientists will be able to communicate with trees like that. The person thought I was joking.

But I told him we communicate with metals, plastic today via our phones and laptops, which we built to assist us with a variety of activities.

In the future, people will also be able to communicate with trees.

Gbotija communicated with trees to perform some magical or supernatural feats, or so they seem to us the viewers.

Everything is all a picture in the head anyway.

What was demonstrated in such scenes was an aspect of African science and technology, which was commonly used in the past.

The philosophical notion behind this is, what we see as reality is a mental picture built for us by the brain. It's an illusion, not what really exists, which is just energy and consciousness.

Past Africans understood this notion deeply and applied them in building various technologies.

The idea is, every particle, object, or system has energy, which exists in discrete packets or what we call quanta in modern Physics, and this energy vibrates at a discrete range of frequencies or wavelengths.

In the movie, Gbotija did Ìpèdè and told one of the trees that his lineage knows the "name" that trees bear. The average person will think he's referring to the word, "tree" or "igi" in Yoruba.

But that's not what he meant. He was talking about the bandwidth of frequencies of that tree's energy itself.

People that know this bandwidth can communicate with trees and seek their assistance for various activities.

In the past, some Africans actually had this deep knowledge, but most of them hid it as secrets from the people and died with their knowledge, and their knowledge also died with them.

In modern times, people will discover this knowledge and develop them further.

Some magicians use this principle to entertain and dazzle people in modern times as was done in the past worlds.

But it actually has many other key applications.

Past Africans such as Olorun, Orunmila, Ifa knew a lot of codes, which we call human languages and programming languages in modern times, and these people did Ìpèdè or programming when they molded the first humans and programmed them with languages, religion, and other elements of a culture.

Olorun, Ifa, Orunmila were people that knew the name that many things in nature bear. They named all things, both living and non-living, in Yorubaland.

Every word vibrates at a range of frequencies. Ifa, Orunmila knew the frequency bandwidth of various living and non-living things and named these things with words vibrating at the same frequencies as those things.

This was how they programmed animals, including humans, and other things, such as plants, microbes, etc. which they designed genetically by mimicking those that evolved naturally.

What we call Isese today, which is the totality of Yoruba culture and traditions, was a system designed as a form of programming by past Yoruba people such as Olorun, Orunmila, Ifa, Obatala, and others.

Over time, this system (knowledge) has been passed from one generation to the next. Some months ago, I watched as a Yoruba language teacher was teaching some students the Yoruba alphabets.

She was programming the students using Yoruba language, an element of that system established by the ancestors of the Yorubas.

You go wail tire. Anywhere in the world you see a human demonizing his forefathers unjustly while promoting and worshipping the forefathers of other people that are even worse, sane people call such people dumb.

They even know themselves when they call themselves sheep, Alhaji and Alhaja (certified names for the slaves of the Arabs).

You see people developing STEM in their indigenous language, then you decide to be condemning such people. And you still think you've a working brain?

Even if I've such a web platform/portal, you think I'd actually post it here. No, I wouldn't. Just as I wouldn't share it and my other works with most of my relatives and friends. This is because of the problem of low intelligence of a typical African.

Once they see anything like Isese, orisha (deities), and the likes, automatically, they'll tag that thing as evil and demonic and start doing everything in their power to bring it down.

Some people are like viruses, cancers to good things that'd drive the advancement of society.

Some people don't know the level of work, will, and mental effort it takes to embark on some projects.

When you're doing some research projects about science in this part of the world involving the ATR adherents as an agnostic, you're well aware of the risks involved.

Based on experience, you know there's a possibility you encounter one or two rare people that, before you meet them, they'd have been told beforehand in another realm by the past human, their ancestor they worship as an Orisha (deity), that you're coming.

When you finally meet and discuss with them and share some of your posts on this forum about religion and science, and they send messages to you later on, you've to be able to defend yourself.

Great African scientists of the past didn't view time chronologically as we modern humans do. They actually had a deeper understanding of time being just a mental construct.

In the past, parts of Africa were more technologically developed than even the West of today.

Today's science and technology, with all its wondrous achievements and feats, is still pale in comparison with the African science and technology of the past eras when civilizations built by the black Africans of the ancient Egypt, and some other parts of Africa were at the peak of their powers.

While today's science and technology is focused on the material or physical aspects of nature we can see, African science and technology of the past human eras was more comprehensive and explored both the physical and unphysical aspects.

While scientists of today have only been able to explore a tiny segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, the past African scientists explored a much larger part of the spectrum.

When you see a human that can explore many parts of the EM spectrum, you'd think they're doing magic, juju, or supernatural feats and if your level of evolution is low, you'd start worshipping them as God. This is the origin of things like juju, the supernatural, religion, and the likes.

Fortunately, today's scientists are now exploring unphysical aspects of nature.

Even Oyinbo and Arab peoples fear African science and technology because they know parts of Africa were highly developed technologically in the past. That's why they do everything in their power to destroy African cultures and traditions and replace them with theirs.

Mumu Africans also aid these foreign peoples to destroy their own scientific and cultural heritage.

When you want to do scientific research in some parts of Africa involving the ATR adherents, if you don't have some deep knowledge, courage, and will, some of those people can mess up your soul and psyche.

There's no juju involved. It's science. For Africa to grow, it's highly important for people to develop STEM in their native language and culture.

Oasis003:


....its not meant for all though. Same way some do scroll pass A001 posts while some do enjoy it, same way some will scroll past my posts too. Its normal.

I am sure many will still appreciate it, coz information is key.

Life no hard o. Scroll past posts on topics you don't have interest in. Daily, one is bombarded by tons of online contents on social media platforms. Naturally, one will only be able to read a handful of them.

Our position under Boli has become very familiar

Oasis003:


....you no dey waste time to off gloves. One or two punches, you don leave the ring, off the gloves. LOL!

Some discussions are a waste of time, my brother. Na person wey no get responsibilities or dependents dey engage in unnecessary online arguments in pages over pages.

Post more epistles. When you're tired, you'll find something meaningful to do with your time. I'm not here for noises.

DissTroy:
Still complete hogwash and theoretical bullcrap. Armchair analyses and everything abstract but never doing the actual work. Like our policymakers holding a thousand symposia but never getting on ground to implement or curate the things they talk about.

Shush it! I'm not on about mentioning what others have done - I mean what you have done. YOU! You are the one who's been on a crusade insulting Africans and calling them dumb, but have done no ground work.

Let me help you with what I HAVE DONE TO CURATE the culture, stories, language and more of my own people.

In 2011/2012, as a a teenager, I helped document the most recent written history of my LGA. My name is also listed on it. I still have a copy of the book at home.

On October 2, 2020, in the heat of the EndSARS, we launched a digital portal for everything my people which I was honoured to have built along with other contributors.

I've collaborated with the Curator of the Women War Memorial - the one of two in the world (and still do even though she's currently holidaying in Canada) who's a retired history lecturer and other historians and researchers to update the bibliography of my people (nay the Ibibio people in general).

Later on when I'm home, if you will match it up, I'd show you my desktop screen - video even - of the digital portal for every tribe in my state; language, culture, history, people, and more. Teaming up with other creators. It's still in development mode on XAMPP, but I'd show you if you'd match it up. No, it's not paid. We are bootstrapping it ourselves.

I didn't need to insult Africans and call them dull, foóls, low IQ and other such self-denigrating terms.

Again, A001, devoid of your hogwash epistle and referencing theories and the works of others, what have you done - actual work outside Nairaland - to promote the culture and more of your people away from Nairaland insults?

Continue posting all your life's achievements and history on Nairaland. Garnish them with your pictures as usual. That's none of my business.

I've better things to do with my time than unnecessary online engagements that don't add a kobo to my account or add anything to my knowledge.

What you call hogwash is none of my business. I've work to do. This is the start of a new week. Keep listing all your life's achievements. I'll simply scroll pass them like I do to the majority of posts on this thread that don't concern me because of time constraints.

DissTroy:
Theorists are armchair war generals. They claim to know it all and theoretize but when it gets right down to it, they barely ever create anything of valuable.

If he's serious about the things he postulates, he should team up with developers and course creators to create web and/or mobile portals which serve as the go-to repository for everything about his tribe - history, culture, language (etymology and all), religion and more.

I'd have exemplified with one but it's too close to home. I might if he's willing to. In fact, I dare that he shows anything concrete he's done to push the narratives he holds dear other than Nairaland insults.

I bet he doesn't even know the history of his own hometown or has ever been part of the documentation process, whether in paper or digital form.

No, a gazillion research works which are nothing more than lexical regurgitations of other works and which are still far from accessible to the target demography - the everyday "ignorant" African he insults daily here - do not count.

Theorists are all talk and little execution of what they say. More like the ubiquitous folks on Tech Twitter giving a thousand tips and "how-tos" but when it gets right down to it, they do nothing. Just insults and throwing tantrums.

Just posturing and angling to fit the perspective as thought-leaders. Smart people who get their hands dirty doing the actual work have learnt to ignore them.

Two morons dey quote themselves.

Nairaland and clowns sha. Calling theorists "armchair war generals", when tons of theoretical physicists have won Nobel prizes for making key contributions to the science world with their theories.

I even dey aim to have gazillion research works on key topics sef so I can become a professor of Physics at a young age. That's the aim of every research scientist.

This one na clown. Most of my posts on Nairaland and other social media platforms are community projects, which I engage in both online and offline.

You're typing trash on a phone which is handiwork of theorists you're disparaging here.

People have won grants and awards in millions of dollars for developing key models and theories, which other scientists and engineers apply to build some of the gadgets this mumu is carrying all around.

Physicists all around the world invest time, effort, and financial resources in developing the physics underlying a wide-range of phenomena.

They do so by theorizing and building models, physical and mathematical models, which are published in papers.

This is the area of specialization of many physicists around the world. Theorizing is all that they do. Popular physicists such as Nobel-Prize-winning physicists Roger Penrose, Frank Wilczek, and many others have made a fortune for themselves for one task: theorizing.

You obviously don't how the world of Physics works. He thinks developing theories and models in Physics is a piece of cake. If your Math isn't extremely good, I'm talking about advanced Math at PhD level and beyond, you can't make key contributions in this area.

Popular physicists such as Brian Cox, Michio Kaku, and co make thousands of dollars yearly from the books they've written on theories and models they developed. Theorizing is all they do.

The knowledge physicists get from developing theories and models for the physics of a range of natural phenomena is highly valuable, which can fetch them thousands/millions of dollars. This is why people invest a lot of funds and time in developing key theories and models in their field.

For many other physicists, testing the predictions in those theories and models developed by the first section is all they do. These ones are experimentalists, and some of them are involved in big-science projects such as the Large Handron Collider and the James Webb Space Telescope.

If some geniuses didn't develop some theories and mathematical models, would you even have anything called the web or mobile portal at all?

Some people are funny that they don't know jack about the way science works. In a year, each scientist has a set of projects they want to work on.

But he's saying I should create a web and some mobile portal blah blah blah. So any physicist that doesn't have such a project as his priority at the moment is an armchair war general.

Mumu, it's obvious this one doesn't know jack about science. Sometimes, some research project can last for over 5 years and require significant funding, he's talking about research projects as if they're something you just wake up today, start, and finish tomorrow.

Every scientist has their research interests, and it's obvious you don't know scientific research in Physics has various areas.

Due to limited amount of time in a day and financial resources, a person can only focus on a couple of areas.

And I should "team up with career developers and course creators to create web and/or mobile portals which serve as the go-to repository for everything about his tribe - history, culture, language (etymology and all), religion and more."

See the way he said as if it's so easy. Some people can be funny sha. How have you even contributed to developing STEM in your local culture to start with?

At least, I'm collaborating with fellow Yoruba scientists to develop STEM in Yoruba. We contribute to this project both offline and online.

How have you impacted your local culture, Urhobo, using your knowledge and skills in your field?

I've seen Yoruba, Igbo, and Hausa tech guys and ladies doing wonderful things in developing and promoting science and technology in their native language?

What have you done to promote and develop STEM in your own culture?

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-basicreadingwriting/chapter/outcome-critical-thinking/

I remember that year during my undergraduate days, I had to take this short course on critical thinking and logic after defending tons of the dumb statements in the Bible and Qur'an for some years while arguing with some irreligious people and atheists on this platform.

In this sort of arguments then, one would be defending all sorts silly and dumb things in a religion because one has been indoctrinated from childhood not to use the brain in certain aspects of life pertaining to religion, the native cultures, and Africa.

The end result is low intelligence. You'd argue with the atheists and agnostics then, and when they point out various issues with Islam, and after days of back-and-forth defending the Arabs, then you actually sit down and start researching those issues, then you'd be shocked they're actually facts.

Then, you wonder, "Why didn't I think of these things before?"

Then, the cycle repeats itself: They point out other issues, with the same outcome. Then, you wonder the level of scams and lies packaged for people as truth in these two foreign religions.

The religious texts use various techniques to dumb down the intelligence of Africans so that they don't question things.

The end result is a vast majority of Africans, who engage in the two religions, demonstrating low intelligence.

Then, I wondered why it actually took me so long to see the grand scams in all these religions. Partly, that was due to a lack of access to the Internet for Nigerians in the early 2000s.

Thanks to the availability of the Internet afterwards, which allowed me to take that short course then.

Such courses on critical thinking and logic should actually be made compulsory for African students and translated to our native languages and taught to people on social media.

Some dolts here also need to take such a course, including the Aro patient that's really no different from the religious zealots.

In a fruitless endeavor, they all aim to destroy African cultures and traditions and replace them with a foreign culture.

One of the methods the founders of Abrahamic religions use, through their texts, to dumb down the intelligence of Africans so that they don't question things is indoctrination of adherents from childhood.

Aristotle once said, “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”

Muhammad, one of their prophets in Islam, applied this principle explained by Aristotle in creating his religion in Arabia, and there's even a hadith (saying) where he mentioned that age range specifically.

At such a young age, a kid's brain hasn't developed fully so they're very moldable, and any ideas and practices taught to them in this period are extremely difficult to get rid of in later years.

Every child is borne an atheist or agnostic.

In an ideal society, religion should actually be left for a later period in a person's life on reaching adulthood when their brain is fully developed and can effectively judge the consequences of their actions, not at a ripe age when they can't tell what's right from what's wrong.

Because of this indoctrination from childhood, a vast majority of Africans demonstrate low intelligence on a range of key issues.

Intelligent people question all religious texts, doctrines, and philosophies. The culture of questioning things should be ingrained in our native cultures. That's key to the development of science and technology in the native languages.

Even as an adult, an intelligent person should know they're supposed to spend enough time to do deep research on something they'd do all through their life, which will also determine what they'll also do in their next cycle of life.

You can't lay claim to intelligence if you promote and support the culture of another people over your own culture. That's a key sign of being dumb.

Aro patient dey waste his time to quote me. You go wail tire. Your condition no allow you to see my past comments where I've repeatedly referred to terrorists as animals as many right-thinking people do around the world. I didn't even bother to read the mumu post. No need to be engaging a dumbo

I just see all the Yoruba Muslims defending Islam online and offline and laugh. They don't know their left from right.

Most of them don't understand Arabic. They read Qur'an and Haadith in English language and Yoruba and feel they understand the texts, but if you can't read and understand Qur'an in Arabic language specifically, you don't really know that text as the Qur'an itself even states explicitly that the book only exists in Arabic language.

Lols, the Arabs are wise. Only critical thinkers actually understand why they put that clause in the Qur'an that the book only exists in Arabic. Any other version in another language is a mere translation of the book, and not the real Qur'an.

This is why no real non-Arab Muslim ever observes Sallah (their obligatory prayer) in their native language. It's forbidden in Islam.

All Muslims must observe the ritual in Arabic.

When ex-Muslims, who can read and understand Qur'an in Arabic read the book again after leaving the religion, see how a so-called God addresses humans, non-Muslims and pagans, in the most dehumanizing and degrading way, it's so annoying.

So many hate speeches, barbaric, and anti-human statements in the book. You see hateful and vile words such as "fasiqun" (used to refer to criminals), "khadibun" (used to refer to liars, fraudsters, and ignoble people) and many others.

A so-called holy book is referring to humans with these evil words. For what?

They refuse to bow down to you, an ancestor of the Arabs, because they don't want to betray or turn their backs on the ancestor of their own land or don't even want to have anything to do with religion at all.

When these hateful and vile words in the book are translated to English or Yoruba, the mischievous people use less offensive words, euphemisms, and completely wrong translations, calling Allah Olorun, Esu Satan, and many others to deceive simple-minded people who don't love checking all things in detail before believing them.

But their alfas and imams who understand the actual meaning of those words in Arabic act on the words exactly as they're in the Qur'an when dealing with non-Muslims. Thus, they attack, demonize, and condemn the pagans and non-Muslims calling them the worst of names in their sermons.

And the non-Muslims and pagans call these clerics extremists and fundamentalists, wondering, "isn't it the same Qur'an or the same religion these other Muslims who are relatively peaceful are following"?

But they don't know the majority of those ones don't actually understand Arabic so they can't read the text.

Fortunately, the religion will die in the coming years because its pillar of support has been cut off as science and technology develops and keeps on developing.

Over the past few years, I've had many interactions with some elderly Isese people in several villages and towns where I encouraged them to develop some ancient knowledge they know using the modern scientific approach.

It's important to expose any kind of knowledge to scientific scrutiny, and the children of the Isese practitioners can even apply the scientific method in this regard.

I urged them to pass on their knowledge to their children and ensure those ones pursue a career in science and technology.

One of the unfortunate events that happened in the past in Africa was, many philosophers and scientists of old hid their knowledge from the people, and this great body of knowledge died with them.

This really affected many parts of this region a lot when the colonialists and slave masters entered Africa, and the people couldn't match the military might of the Europeans.

People shouldn't adopt the same approach again, and they should strive to develop science and technology in the native languages.

Many of these elderly pagans still have some deep knowledge that can really benefit Africans in many areas. I purposely explained some of them in my post about Ifa last week.

Such deep knowledge should be explored further and built on so that any slaves of the Arabs that attacks Isese practitioners and other native people unjustly, they can defend themselves, their territory, and ancestral heritage.

At least, I witnessed some of such knowledge "with my two koro koro eyes" that can make a person develop maniac conditions even without using toxins. And this one even has a scientific basis.

There are others as well. It's extremely important for a people to develop science and technology in their mother tongue in modern times. If not, when the invaders and terrorists come, they will be weak and at their mercy.

Oasis003:


Salaam Alykum dear Brother.

Wa alaykum salam o. E kale o

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MOHAMMED BELLO EL-RUFAI donated 430,500 for the renovation of Alor-Agu Muslim community Mosque in Igbo Eze LG, Enugu State - according to the Mosque Chairman, Sirajuddeen Ugwu.[/quote]Anywhere you've this religion of 'piss', the indigenous people have to open their eyes and brain wide. Before they give the natives the Ilorin treatment and take over their land using Islam.

Bunch of animals and land grabbers. Anyone, who's following the news about the Isese vs Islam issue in Ilorin and saw how some Isese adherents were barred by the Muslims from engaging in their religious practices in public and some of them jailed, and such a person is still welcoming terrorists of the 'religion of piss' into their area, they're playing with a cancer in the name of Islam that destroys your native culture and take over your land.

I don't know how a religion can be so evil. They welcome you into their town peacefully, and when you're comfortable and have gained ground with many fellow Muslims, the next thing is for you to start attacking and demonizing their pagans, your hosts, calling them all sorts of evil names to take over the land, saying you're fighting jihad for your god.

But in reality, you're mere thieves, land grabbers, and criminals. One fact I love about the Igbo people is that they didn't allow that evil religion to gain ground in their region, unlike in Yorubaland.

I just read some posts on this forum and laugh. Religious people can be very funny because most of them don't check things pertaining to their faith in detail before believing them.

A couple of months ago, I was discussing religion and culture with a younger colleague, and this person was complaining about some other lecturers of Philosophy in her school.

I just laughed. I just told her if you want to develop a career in your field as a scientist, you'd still learn that philosophy you're running from while in the university now.

She's afraid they'll make her dump her religion, without knowing I'm not so different from those lecturers she was running from.

I just told her not to bother herself too much about religion, that it's human beings doing their "thing". No god is involved.

I added if she wants to take up a career in her field after graduating, she'll still learn that philosophy so as to grow and develop in her career. You can't establish a career in science without philosophy.

As regards culture, most modern humans, especially religious people, don't know it's some of these freethinkers they see around that pioneered/developed some of their cultures and religions in the Old World.

Whether it's Yahweh, Allah, Atum, or Olorun or any of the tons of the local gods and goddesses, they've all existed in the past, and for most of them, freethinking was the norm. Or does it make sense for Olorun to be worshipping Allah his mate? Or for Allah to be worshipping Yahweh his mate?

Anyway, they're all the same to ignorant religious people sha.

So, some of these past humans, which religious worship as God, reincarnate in the modern era. And the funny thing is, most times, it's that freethinking (atheism or agnosticism) they did in the past eras they still do again when they come back.

Nature can really be funny. The same reason that made them embrace atheism and agnosticism in the Old World is the same reason that also makes them embrace it in the modern world: They see those entities religious people call God as their mate, which is true.

The funny thing is, religious people don't know some atheists and agnostics they see around developed their culture in the past.

Then, even most times, a reincarnated person who had been worshipped as God in the past most times don't also recall their past life, and when they do later, it can be a life-threatening incident.

Nature is full of mysteries.

How did the past people develop what we call culture today? All cultures are mental programmings.

When the first humans molded various sorts of living things in the Old World mimicking those that evolved naturally from stars, they programmed these living systems using languages, various practices, norms, music, belief systems, and the likes, just like engineers program hardware and robots today.

There are some techniques those past humans used to mentally shape and mold these living systems again. It's all psychology.

A person can even apply the same technique to themselves to let go of old beliefs and habits and learn new ones. Freethinkers would have done such programming, deprogramming, and reprogramming when they left religion.

So, I laughed when some people think some humans have no culture. Even if you yourself see a fellow human without a culture, you'd be shocked as such a person is either dead or in a vegetative state (brain dead).

It's interesting when I see modern scientists and engineers program, deprogram, and reprogram robots today.

Philosophy in Yoruba and other indigenous languages

When we philosophize in Yoruba, our forefathers called it "Arojinle", which also means "deep thinking" or "critical thinking". A guy (picture attached) is doing a great job in this area on Facebook with over half a million followers, developing great philosophical thoughts in Yoruba language.

Philosophy is indigenous to Isese, just like it's to other native cultures of Africa. Highly intelligent Igbo people, Ijaw, and other indigenous peoples can also develop philosophy in their mother tongue for the modern world if such a project doesn't exist already.

Spy360:
Why don't you get us a dictionary oga. Listen you are just exposing your stupidity by engaging in this. Get a dictionary and explain your pointless point. An individual's personal life cannot constitute culture or its norms if that's the way you are going. And by the way, the issues that surround belief systems are not regarded as norms because they involve social institutions. There can be religious norms but religion itself is not a norm.

If those who major in culture (sociology/anthropology) as a course or career read all these your posts, dey go laugh tire

So you believe there are some humans that have no culture. Wetin I no go read for Nairaland o , this site na everyday comic relief

Isese vs Islam: Whenever I encounter this debate anywhere, the natural response is to support the Isese people because I know what Islam means for Isese, my culture.

Africans of low intelligence are the slaves of this world. When you're dumb, you're a burden to yourself, your people, and the whole of humanity.

Even if one's parents were indoctrinated into an evil religion and they then indoctrinated their children, a person can read and educate themselves on the history of the religion upon reaching adulthood and leave such a religion that's toxic to their culture, unless such a person's IQ is too low.

You call yourself a Yoruba person, and you see people having an argument about religion, which is an element of a culture, if you don't have what we call "lakaaye" in Yoruba, i.e., "intellect ", like some animals here, you'd be defending the foreign religion against the indigenous religion.

Yet, even as an irreligious person, I know what the growth of Islam means for me as an agnostic and as a Yoruba person: The death of freethinking and importantly, the death of Isese.

This continent is just unlucky to have too many dolts who support the ancestor of other parts of the world over their own ancestors. And yet, the morons want to develop and grow.

They think other intelligent peoples around the world, which Africans are rushing to their country, who promote and support their ancestors and cultures don't know what they're doing.

There are some religions that are even relatively better and more humane like the traditional African religions, Buddhism, Eckankar, Taoism and the likes.

These ones aren't toxic to Africa.

However, Christianity and Islam are toxic to Africa for a single reason: They both seek to destroy African cultures and traditions and replace them with the Arabic and European cultures.

People are doing a lot of work in promoting Isese. I love this calendar developed by a Yoruba person.

Spy360:
You think by tagging me an illiterate you have won an argument? When this illiterate guy has just blown your head open.

You moved from culture to norms. Rubbish.

Atheism is neither a cultural practice nor a cultural norm in Africa. Any individual can hallucinate about the nonexistence of God that does not make it a cultural practice.

Yoruba women who wear trousers does not make it Yoruba culture. Neither is it anything near cultural norms.

All humans, whether religious or not, have norms, languages, practices, arts, music they listen to. All these is what constitute a culture.

Even to use your dictionary to check what's called "norm" and "culture" is difficult.

Lols.

I no get time for that terrorist

One silly alfa wey dey like demonize and attack some Isese people in my former place, he's been doing it for a while mostly without any repercussion.

Till he attacked the wrong person and dan one reason him matter, and the alfa run mad for the town.

When you attack and demonize those practicing certain aspects of their native culture unjustly so as to destroy their culture and replace these aspects with similar aspects from a foreign culture, when you attack the wrong person and they send you a message in your vulnerable state while asleep, just bear your misfortune like that.

When you get some messages while asleep, even your god can't do anything to help you. So, before you attack and fight for a god, know those you want to attack.

One billion kursiy can't cure a simple viral infection.

Some terrorists in Ilorin sent some Isese practitioners to jail for giving them a response to the daily condemnation and demonization of their ancestors.

Many alfas have demonized and condemned the deities of Isese practitioners over time. These are the ancestors and forefathers of the Yorubas.

Historically, this evil practice of demonizing and condemning the ancestors of the native peoples is the modus operandi of the adherents of the imported religions. Open the Qur'an, before you read more than two verses, you'd see various hate speeches against non-Muslims and the pagans.

You demonize and condemn a people, and they reply you in kind, then you start harassing them with the police.

Until when you do this to the wrong people, and they give you the calamity you and your family would be nursing for the rest of your life. When you attack and kill others you think are weak for a god and your selfish interests, be ready when more superior forces also use power over you.

When that happens, you can then call on your god even though common cold he can't cure for you.

For the terrorist wey dey organize donations for a group that doesn't exist, if you want to be unfortunate in your life, continue playing with silly ideas.

Like I said before, when you're ready to embrace your calling, you'll go and join your fellow animals in the North killing for a god.

When your head, what's called 'Ori' in Yoruba, wants to attract calamities and misfortunes into your life and that of your family, go and attack the wrong persons in your usual practice of killing and fighting for a god. Na den you go understand what Yoruba people call "aye pegba". The world is more than what you see.

If one Aro patient mentions me unnecessarily, I'd simply bin the mention.

Some people are so dull that give them from now to 50 years, simple issues that kids understand in other parts of the world, they don't understand them.

There was a time the knowledge of what's called science and technology today wasn't available in English language. It took the effort of some brilliant English people in the past to translate many books of philosophy and science to develop these fields in the English language.

In many native cultures of Africa, what we call philosophy, science and technology are indigenous to them. But over time, those that developed these concepts and principles died and many of their ideas were lost, and only a few are currently being used by local priests, native doctors, and the likes.

Highly intelligent people are conducting research on these ideas to revive them and develop them further. They're doing this to develop philosophy, science, and technology in Yoruba language and other native languages.

I personally know of many guys involved in these projects and am engaged in some of them. In fact, in my research works, I used various Yoruba terms in them.

In any international presentation or conference I engage in my field as a physicist, I adopt the same attitude.

I went through Einstein's papers in German yesterday. And I asked myself why can't African scientists also write some of their papers in their native language as many scientists do around the world?

In my personal space, I encourage fellow African scientists to do this to develop science and technology in the native cultures.

Indians also adopt the same attitude and engage in STEM in their native languages, coupled with the English language.

And the basic premise for developing philosophy, science, and technology in the native tongue is this: If these three fields aren't developed by the natives of a country themselves in their mother tongue, such a country can never grow to become a powerful civilization.

Check any civilization in history, you'll find the following common features:
1. An indigenous language (a system of writing and communication)
2. A functional science and technology sector, which will have a peculiar name native to them
3. An indigenous spiritual or religious system
4. A thriving education system
5. An economic system
6. A strong military system
7. A functional health system

There are more. But these are the fundamental ones, and developing all of these key features will take at least 100 years. If you don't have philosophers and freethinkers in the country, that country can't develop into a powerful civilization.

There's no way a country can develop to great heights without the use of philosophy and without key contribution from thinkers. And that philosophy must be native to the people, not imposed by a colonial master.

The simple fact is, you can't grow to become a civilization when you're still under colonial masters. No colony in history has ever become a powerful civilization while in slavery to another empire or country.

That colonial master will simply not allow that colony to grow.

But this dumbo here thinks every culture in the world must be under the English culture. The m.oron thinks everyone is as docile and weak mentally as him.

Go and argue with the over 1.5 billion of Chinese people to abolish their culture and join the English people. They'll look at you as filth because they believe they're even more intelligent than the English people, and China is even a superpower.

If India too continues to grow and develop, they could be a superpower in the next few decades. They've the population, many brilliant minds, and some other key factors.

Go and preach to the over 1.4 billion of Indian people to abolish their culture and adopt the English culture.

As I said before, until you carry your madness to go and meet the elders in your town or village to abolish the Ibo culture and adopt the English culture, you're merely fooling around.

When highly intelligent people around the world are looking for ways to move their culture forward to keep up with other cultures around the globe, this one wants to destroy his own culture, which means he wants to destroy his people.

Your knowledge and achievement are useless and worthless if you don't have any key contribution you're making to your culture.

Some people are just useless. Nature gifted some people with a lot of wealth; and it gifted others with a lot of knowledge. But they've no positive impact on their immediate environment and culture.

If you don't impact your culture and immediate environment positively with any wealth and knowledge you've, you're useless and worthless.

Society grows when each member impacts it positively as much as nature has provided for them.

Yesterday, I checked the number of books I've to finish within the next one year to develop the mathematical frameworks for some theoretical models I built. And till now, I don't even know where I'd find the time to finish all of them within that period.

When people are concerned about science and making scientific discoveries, na religion unintelligent Africans dey carry for head.

Una go cry tire. Lols, mere waste of time. Africa is not known to have the largest concentration of unintelligent people for nothing.

I'm not here to engage a person suffering from a maniac disorder. Yesterday, I read all about Einstein throughout the day for my papers and books, and I even mentioned him here. I guess I'm worshipping him too for devoting a whole day to study his works because they're related to my research works.

Most people have told you that you're not mentally sound, and yet you don't know you should do yourself some good and see a psychiatrist.

The same maniac fellow has once said I'm Otem, even though I'm a Yoruba guy while Otem is an Ebira guy from Kogi that even speaks his language regularly here on Nairaland.

This morning, he said I'm worshipping myself since his maniac condition doesn't allow him to tell one nairalander from the other. Before today runs out, he'll still link two completely different people here as one.

Lols, talking about worshipping a person or a god in today's age of science and technology. Who get time for that? Lols