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bawomolo:
david defeated Goliath with such odds so i could give a shit what some las vegas nerds think. on the other hand you got tony the phony romo at QB. big game after big game he chokes. anyway how is the roy williams trade working out. quick question, which franchise has won a playoff game in the last decade, bears or cowbutts.

DA BEARS would shock the world on thursday by shutting down drew brees. yes i said it. put this up for post of the year

You know i specialize in dealing low blows . You wey see promise land wey no enter nko?

Nairaland Quiz of the day!!

All of these teams have won the Superbowl at least 5 times except which?

A: San Francisco 49ers

B: Pittsburgh Steelers

C: Chicago Bears

D: Dallas Cowboys

Send your answers now!!

Hmm it could work and it could backfire for Phoenix all though their thin bench has already gotten thinner with this trade it was so obvious against the Lakers and thats going to be a big problem they made a huge mistake in trading Marion for a washed up Shaq now they have traded Bell and Diaw who have not exactly been playing too good for them especially Bell but the good side is they get loads of offense from Richardson and someone who could control traffic in the absence of Nash

As for the Bobcats they have gotten better on defense and they have gotten more bodies too but they have lost lots of offense in Richardson and things would get a little worse before they get better for them

All in all i think looking at it in the long term Charlotte just might be getting a better deal because their roster gets a little deeper

Carmelo dropped 33 in one quarter albeit against the T/Wolves

WadeFTW:
Oh no. [b]Your posts is too easy for the taking

I've argued against people much more knowledgable about the game.

I will get back to it after studying. Finals week.[/b]

Ohh tape it shut you have nothing meaningful to say Mr Wole Soyinka you just made another grammatical blunder.You know nada about the game

doyin13:
The long posts tire me to read sef

una remember the '01 Sixers sha.

shuwo

I can only remember Mutombo, Iverson, Mckie and Snow. Can't remember the other members in their rotation.
And they beat a pretty good Bucks team of Allen, Cassell and Big Dog. An offensive beast at the time.

Wade WTF. . . . that sixers team were no offensive slouches.

I am not too sure but i bet they averaged close to 100 pts a game that season
to go with their staunch defense.

Pele!! I am not used to typing these long things myself.Sometimes though ITK peeps like these need to be schooled because they think they know but have no idea

JeSoul:
wow A-40 you brought out a whip on Wade    that's the harshest I've seen you write, but Wade sure deserved it, cheating on his wife n all . . .   
hehe na you start am now     _{turning red in the face} Doyin me I just be like the girl next door oh!    
and for all the kind fellas who queried, here's my youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ed7-LP9G1I&feature=channel_page

Lol na the fake Wade sef the real Wade would be more sensible than he is despite leaving his wife for that skeezer lol but its his private business i guess.I would check out your vid

Pay them haters no mind what matters is we are through to the knockout phase where you finish counts for squat and the sooner you face the big boys the better!!all attention should be firmly fixed on the Boro game lets not dwell too much on this game all though it was plain to see how shambolic our midfield would be without Cesc this team has no depth lets be honest with ourselves why won't these fans boo these players?If we needed more proof of Bendtner,Silvestre and Eboue's uselessness we got it tonight even Gallas was shyte infact if AW does not buy players January then he needs to see a shrink this team is painfully and annoyingly not good enough.QED

@Code Red
Don't lie to these people ooh!! if these guys ever got to see you you would have stalkers on your hands.Code red is an epitome of beauty you have to see her to believe it

@lai-lai
I think this dead horse has been flogged enough lets move on to more productive things

@doyin
Pardon me

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]Rubbish talks. . . . . .Did Torres score against Man Utd at Anfield or against Arsenal at Anfield in the league??
Does that make him useless?? A player that has scored 46 goals in the last 2 seasons in the Premiership is a classy player.
Berbatov did precious little because that was his debut game for Man Utd. . . . .How many players woulda done more than that?
Ya first game for a big club, new teammates, new environment in a hostile ground like Anfield.
It does not take a quantum physicist to know you are blowing fuses all over your nervous system [/quote]You are a stubborn billy-goat do i have to correct your every goof? you claimed Torres didn't score against any of the big 4 away and i promptly pointed out the fact that he featured in only one match what is it with you Mancs and your inability to accept you made a mistake and move on
Yak has as good a scoring record playing for even shittier clubs like Boro and Pompey lets compare him to Berbatov too  
You need T.B JOSHUA  
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]U have brain cells but they need to be thawed. It's been frozen since Vieira won the FA cup for y'all in 2005.[/quote]Sadly there is no hope for you as you only have cobwebs up there

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]Berbatov is 27 not 28. . . . . .He won't be 28 until January next year(anutha strong evidence to prove ur nervous system is not co-ordinating.
It is not your business because your cognitive reasoning is inept. . . . .[/quote]Yeah i said he is 28 because he is closer to 28 than 27 simple elementary approximation skills is what you lack spring cleaning should be done on what is left of your brain

You are not a journalist,coach,player or employee of FIFA or the Balon D'Or magazine why do you think your warped opinion should count on anything?

Messi was injured in the second round if he was fit he would have played the Quarter's

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]Berbatov led SPURS to the UEFA cup, he won the Carling cup. . . . .If u compare the quality of the teams that feature in the Carling cup, it is equivalent to Bundesliga season. Berbatov led SPURS to beat Arsenal(UCL Q-finalist) and Chelsea(UCL finalist) to win the tournament.
If u bend your head around it. . . . . .The milk cup in the Premiership has more quality than the French League, German League and Serie A. .[/quote]How far did they go in the Uefa Cup? he won the Carling Cup big deal where did Tottenham finish in the league? outside the top 10!!
When would you stop this biased defense just because you signed him? you would not say this if he signed for Man City i am sure

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]Why would a virgin self-service?? U really need to focus on the gibberish that dribble o'utta ya mouth.
I don't care what SPURS have done in the last 26 years. . . . .All i know is they spanked y'all 5-1 when it mattered most.
They went on to win a title last season. . . . . .Something Wenger has not managed for the past 3 seasons.
If it is that EASY. . . . . .Make Wenger win something na. [/quote]What part of that did you not understand? should i interpret in sign language a self-servicer that has seen no chocha is still a virgin go figure
I would trust you to make myopic observations on one game its your specialty what Wenger has won for Arsenal i doubt if Tottenham have managed it in the last 40 years

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]Only an ignoramus like you would count one appearance as an achievement. I am sure Inzaghi would be disappointed he didn't do MORE for his country.
Players like to get involved in such big tournaments. Inzaghi making one appearance is a HUGE disappointment when players like Pirlo, Zambrotta and Buffon went on to SHINE.
Cheese n Rice. . . . . .KitKat and Ben Foster too would feel they won the Champions League?? U are a bleeding Arrow, hombre.
P.S. U schooled nowt!!! U didn't even know Pippo only had one appearance against Czech Republic so how is that schooling?
The only schooling i see here is the one u need desperately because you type more twaddle than a deranged porcupine.[/quote]If you where not the locally respected and internationally acclaimed GUFFANTI you are i would have taken your rants serious, he made an appearance and scored in typical deadly fashion.Your question was what has he achieved for country and i answered you why didn't you ask how much has he achieved or what did he achieve at the world cup? you made a monumental blunder and now you are scrambling to save your face.after sourcing for help from google or wikipedia.Inzaghi battled with injury for most parts of the season so what are you on about?he appeared in the world cup finals and won!! even Ronaldo was a world cup winner at Usa 94 he did not kick a ball! Kaka won the World cup in Japan and he came on only once as a substitute so if you are not satisfied with that why not grab a gat and mug them of their medals.Irate Primate

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3206331#msg3206331 date=1228927103]The topic of discussion is Pippo. . . . . .We can do Nesta after this one. . . . .Don't shift the post!!!
Berbatov would never wear a world cup medal just like Sheva, Figo, Benzema, Giggs, Cristiano Ronaldo!!!
Sad but true and it does not make them a LESS player than the ones who have won it.
Berbatov would start for Italy if he was Italian. . . . . . .That is enough consolation for him.[/quote]Berba-shyte would be a ball boy for the Italian team they don't need sissies like him

Sheva,Giggs,Figo and Cristiano Ronaldo have been successful with their clubs and would retire with trophy filled cabinets and would be fulfilled that they where a success how does Berba-shyte fall into that category?Your ignorant and irritating comparisons are running my tummy!! Your case is a hopeless one

Cristalz:
Speak for yourself dearie

I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with you

It would scare you if you knew how many people want to know about your business   

Tonight's match should end in a draw i am not a clairvoyant so i can't predict for sure the exact scoreline

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349][b]Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never claimed they were "offensive juggernauts" as you put it. Show me in my posts where I referred to LeBrons cast as such. Instead, I claimed they were good serviceable role players on offense w/ great defense & rebounding (their bread & butter) which is 100% fact. Why do you like twisting peoples words?[/quote]So you are a thug now? talk about someone who does not know his identity  where you not the one that started with the insults? I thought we where having a mature argument till you started the insulting business and even talked down on my grammar when it was obvious your understanding of English was sub-par.The Moral of the Story is be prepared to receive whatever you dish out

I am not putting words in your mouth dumbo i am stating that A.I's supporting cast was better than Lebron's my choice of words where only to spice up the arguments they where good on defense but sucked so much on offense that their defense practically became useless since they could not take advantage of a drop in San Antonio's game

I did not claim the Cavs did not have scorers they actually don't have scorers if your top 3 players can only combine for 44 points in a playoff series where does the offense come from?

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/stats/2006/nba_finals_stats.html You should make use of that link only Varejao made over .500 in FG's
I honestly do not know where you got your inflated stats from because as you can see Lebron got little or no help from his team-mates who where really not good enough to help anyway
He was the highest in points,assists and 3rd best rebounder from that team what else do you want him to do? run on top of water or walk on thin air?

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]When an argument doesn't go your way, you resort to personal attacks. Very classy of you. They couldn't manage to score more b/c LeBron was busy chucking the team out of the series w/ his brickest. He also commited 5.8 turnovers a game, most in NBA Finals history. Did you ever think of that? Why aren't you addressing the issue? So how you expect his supporting cast to score more is beyond me. When Gibson, Gooden, Big Z & Varejao were given the ball, they shot good percentages. Other than that, LeBron was busy either, shooting his team out of games, or commiting stupid turnovers (traveling, bad pass, charge etc, )[/quote]Man up chump!! you started the insults so stop crying like a baby!If Lebron had a brickfest then the likes of Marshall and Pavlovic had a brickorgy,The Cavs team was so shyte that they had zero-secondary offense no player even made a move to step up their game all through the series do i have to get an anvil and crack open your head for you to get the picture?
Lebron is an under-sized power forward the fact that he handles the rock so often makes him very prone to turn-overs and gives you a clear picture of just how little Lebron had to work with

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]So, you actually believe the Spurs were better than the three peat Lakers?!? (ROFFLES). WOW. And you attacking my knowledge of the game.[/quote]I didn't say better but for you to call them out as a lesser team smacks sheer illiteracy on your part because they have won 4 rings to Lakers 3 they are a legit dynasty take it or leave it
Its like saying the Pats are not a dynasty because they didn't win the Superbowl back to back


[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349][b]Those 22 points came off mostly either free throws, fast break points, or inefficient jumpers . When you take a ridiculous amount of shots, you are bound to score 22 points in a game. The real question is: Was it an efficient 22 points? I think we already know that answer to that.

And LeBrons teammates not averaging more than 3 assists a game is sheer poppycock. LeBron needs the ball in his hands to be effective, being the primary ball-handler and the defacto point guard. But then, he was busy making stupid decisions w/ the ball and shooting his team out the game. LeBrons mistakes could've in fact turned into assists for his teammates. So, then why do you expect his casts to average more than 3 APG, when LeBron himself is the primary ball-handler? 27% of all of the shots LeBron took throughout the playoffs that year were assisted. Therefore, LeBron isn't a good off-ball player. 

Not to mention that LeBron had one of the worst assist-to-turnover ratio: a better indication of a good passer, than just assists (a real NBA fan would know that). Yeah, LeBron averaged alot of assists in the Finals, but at what cost?

So, there goes your so-called knowledge of the game. LeBron is actually the one that sets the tone on offense and looks to find his cutting man, or an open teammate. Yet another dumb logic by A-40 himself.[/b][/quote]Its amazing how you can talk a lot and make so little sense! Apparently his team-mates where so efficient only two of them could average double figures the entire series Gibson barely made it there
Now tell me why does Lebron have to bear the scoring and ball handling responsibilities if he had better team-mates?I don't even need to be arguing this with you someone that wanted to leave if Cleveland did not trade last year when he got sick of the fact he was surrounded by loafers!! your argument is moronic i still insist that Lebron dragged arguably the most average roster to the NBA Finals in recent history your fancy stats don't count for much

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]Thats not too bright of you. I'm not arguing D12 is better than LeBron, but what comes w/ a dumb logic follows another personal attack about someones knowledge. Hypocrite much?  [/quote]You are still not making sense you started the personal attacks and yes Lebron is better than Dwight so is Dirk till Dwight proves otherwise

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]No disrespect, but you are infact delusional if you believe having a good (but not great) starting cast translates to poor depth.

Thats a big IF. He has many more years in the NBA to get to the Finas. Nowitzki didn't get to the Finals until his late 20s. It happens. You can't expect D12 to get to the Finals when he hasn't even sniffed his prime. LeBron couldn't even will his team to the Finals at 22. LeBron did that at 23. D12 just TURNED 23 TWO DAYS AGO.[/quote]If stupidity was legal tender you would be a billionaire! The Magic had a very decent roster both starting and on the bench with a roster arguably more talented than Cleveland's but albeit too light-weight to come good in the playoffs

There is no guarantee that Dwight would make the Finals lets wait and see how long it would take for D12 to sniff his prime! so who are you to judge that Lebron has sniffed his prime? he is only just about to turn 24 and point of correction Lebron was 22 years and six months when he went to the NBA FInals in June 2007

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]DURRRRRR!!
Yes. D12 must will his team to the championship at age 23, b/c LeBron James did it Nice logic.[/quote]I am only trying to tell you to quit ranting like Howard is the best thing since sliced bread and point out in clear and certain terms that he is not yet as good and as such should not be hyped so much what has his ass won since he made the NBA what personal accolade has he garnered? I need some help on this one

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]Apprently you. Otherwise, you wouldn't have brought his name up, trying to compare both. D12 is a legit defender. Camby isn't.

One erratic game does not make a player, although I wouldn't expect you to know that. .[/quote]Just tried to let you see that his winning the award is simply not a big deal i think you should enrol in adult classes.Camby is a good defender might not be the best but he is good and D12 is not a legit defender yet get that into your coconut head

How about an erratic series because Dwight was molested all series

[quote author=Thugs_R_Us link=topic=148652.msg3205969#msg3205969 date=1228923349]Please. Enough excuses about your boy. He doesn't bring anything to the table other than his jumpshot. When his jumpshot is flat he is basically useless. He is an OK rebounder (for his height) and a good passer at times (I must admit), but he doesn't impact games as a D12, KG or Duncan. He doesn't anchor defenses, give his team second chance opportunities, etc. Remember, defense is half the game, and Dirk is non-existent. He isn't a force inside, and doesn't have legit post game other than facing up his opponent.

Thanks for the insults. It shows your character in simple debates.[/quote]Yeah we all acknowledge Dirk has his weak points please show me one player who doesn't he has been successful though and if he gets a ring before he retires then that would be the icing on the cake and even if he doesn't i would name ten amazing players who might never or never did win a ring it takes nothing from his brilliance.A lot of teams would give their left balls for Dirk even at this stage of his career

You are welcome next time don't start what you can't finish you called me an idiot and questioned my education i took it with a coke and a smile so do the same or shut your trap
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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205915#msg3205915 date=1228922862]They were always going to be difficult matches so shut the hell up and put ur brain cells to good use.
When Chelsea LOST at OT and the Emirates last season and could only get a draw at Anfield. . . . .Did that make every player in Chelsea dud??
I just cannot understand why an average GAYnner is so brainless and tactless. . . Berbatov was missing indeed.
Torres didn't score against the BIG FOUR away last season in the league. . . .In A-40's pitbullish eyes. . . .Torres is a bad player.
U need an intensive brain surgery. Your reasoning faculty has blown a couple of fuses.[/quote]You are an empty barrel your dumbness defies all human reasoning and logic   before ranting like an irate primate why not get your stats right first? Torres only figured at OT and missed both games at Stamford Bridge and the Emirates,Berbatov figured in all 3 this season and did precious little aside the assist he gave to Tevez at Anfield i could almost swear i didn't see him in that game after that
At least i have brain cells i am sure yours have long been replaced with cobwebs hence your vast repertoire of clueless arguments Science cannot help your case what you need to seek is Spiritual help

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205915#msg3205915 date=1228922862]A-40 still cannot get it. . . . . . .Jeezuz. . . . . .The comparison was based on ur moronic focus that FOR A PLAYER TO BE GOOD, he has to play in a BIG CLUB.
I have just proven to u good players sometimes play in small clubs and until they are spotted by the BIG GUNS, they remain unknown.
Does that suddenly take their skills away because they have not won anything.
What has Sergio Aguero won at Athletico Madrid. . . .Does that make Bendtner or Eduardo better than Aguero??
I have to fashion out a trust fund to buy you some artificial intelligence. . . . .PlayStation players have more sense than u do at this moment.[/quote]You are still sounding static and repetitive   a player does not have to play for a big club but when he is only able to make his first big club at 28 does it not show that he probably is not good as you are making him out to be?

Sergio Aguero led Athletico to the UCL! Sergio Aguero is only 20 Bendtner,Eduardo,Kuyt are yet to achieve anything in their careers for club or country comparing them to Aguero smacks nothing but stupidity on your side

You need more A.I than i do! remove the log from your eye before removing the speck from mine

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205915#msg3205915 date=1228922862]How has this supported Messi's case?? What has Messi won for club??
What has he won for country? Age-grade competition aside.
If Messi had won the Ballon d'Or ahead of Ronaldo. . . . . . .He wouldn't have won it based on his exploits in China against division 2/3 players.
He woulda earned it based on his display at Barcelona(which hasn't won anything for the last 2 seasons).[/quote]Messi was part of the La Liga and UCL winning Barca side of 06 like it or not  
Whatever he is judged on is not my business thats not my J.O.B

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205915#msg3205915 date=1228922862]Berbatov plays for a small team. . . . .Under normal circumstances, SPURS shouldn't be beating Arsenal but lets leave football mysteries aside.
Dimitar is better than all the strikers in your Arsenal team. It is not rocket science.
It's a fact!!!![/quote]You argue like a toddler! Spurs are our rivals and they get one win in the last 26 games and you are busy wanking like a frustrated virgin.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205915#msg3205915 date=1228922862]Inzaghi?? One appearance in the world cup and that makes him an active participant for Italy??
Would Italy have missed winning the world cup if Inzaghi was dropped before the world cup. . . .What was his significance in Germany 2006??
In other words. . . . .Dong Fangzhou, Danny Welbeck and Johnny Evans won the Champions league for Man Utd.
Ya breath stinks. . . . . .take this $2 and get yourself some peppermint. [/quote]Your initial quote was what had he achieved for country? I schooled you and instead of you to humbly accept another milestone goof you made you are busy throwing tantrums like a little girl act your age for once homie  
Who cares if he made just one appearance? How many appearances did Nesta make? why not go and remove the world cup medal that Berbatov would never have from his neck.Player hater oshi

Cristalz:
@A-40

I see amnesia plagues you

Remember.  .  .mind your biz

Cristalz business on Nairaland is everybody's business if you didn't know that by now you berra ask somebody

[quote author=lai-lai link=topic=148652.msg3203918#msg3203918 date=1228888866]@A-40
kings beating lakers is more shocking than wizards beating pistons
lakers still lack total conentration, terrible game

that spurs mavs one could hav gone either way, neither team wanted to give up, i'm sure both mavs and spurs will rise well in d standings later on
magis do have some sharp 3pt shooters around D12, they came good today while D12 was below par[/quote]Are you sure about that? the Wizards have only won their third game all season kai when is Arenas coming back now?from perennial first round exiters to no playoffs at all

You guys where behind for most parts of the game i guess so y'all could still work on some things now is not the time to get too cozy

I guess homecourt or being on the road doesn't apply when the Mavs and the Spurs lock horns because we have actually beaten them in their building this season looking at the Mavs next three games i fancy us picking wins against Charlotte and Oklahoma anything can happen in the Denver game

I keep trying to tell people that D12 is not the only talented player in the Magic roster.Lol even superman bows down at the sight of kryptonite

Cristalz:
@A-40

Thought I fired you from being my P.A yesterday You can quit peeping over my shoulder now

You can only fire someone you employed .Remember Business before Pleasure

MrCrackles:


Is he a peeping Tom?!

Naah i am a peeping Jerry

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205615#msg3205615 date=1228919883]Lack of trophies in the last couple of years has turned an average GAYnner to a lobotomised ape!!!

United play better as a team with Berbatov around. . . . . .
Rooney is out for the Tottenham game, how would that have been if Ferguson did not sign Berbatov??
Ferguson is god. . . . .He paid 30 mil on Berba, Berba shall deliver the goods. . . .don't worry.
This time last season, Debosky was saying Tevez was dud. . . . .I doubt he would say that now.[/quote]Yeah and one would think winning of trophies would at least enhance your reasoning faculty alas the reverse is the case
Yeah United play better all right like we saw at the Emirates,Stamford Bridge and Anfield where Berba went M.I.A after 10-20 minutes of footie,Berba would be the clog in your wheel this season and that you would find out in due time

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205615#msg3205615 date=1228919883]You are the narrow-minded fan. . . . . .I compared Aboutrika with Eboue/Adebayor based on the clubs they PLAY for.
Aboutrika(Al Ahly). . . . .Adebayor n Eboue(Arsenal). . . . . .In ur deluded world, you said why hasn't Berbatov played for any big club until now if he was good? I went on to say u don't have to play for a big club to be known as a good player. So i cited Aboutrika's example.
U see?? An average GAYnner functions on a single digit(negative integer) IQ!!!!
Babu cognitive reasoning. [/quote]I think narrow-minded describes you more accurately i admire your ability to shift the goal post in your arguments but that still doesn't make it less moronic you have failed to explain how Adebayor and Eboue who play for big clubs and have not won anything for big clubs can be compared to Inzaghi who has played for big clubs and actually won stuff with big clubs.Same goes for Abou-Trika who has actually won stuff for small clubs and even country to Berba-dog that is yet to win shyte besides the Milk cup for both club and country
Aboutrika would not be regarded as a good player if he didn't win trophies for club and country so thats another flaw in your weak argument

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205615#msg3205615 date=1228919883]David Healy has a better goal ratio for country(not for CLUB). . . . . . .Inzaghi has a better goal ratio for club(AC Milan) not for country.
Berbatov has a balance. . . . . .Proliic for country and not bad for club(considering he does not even play for any of the BIG 4) until this season.
What else do u want? He made Tottenham tick . . . . . . .Without him, i doubt Tottenham woulda won the Carling cup.
I still remember his exploits when they dismantled Wenger's team 5-1 last season.[/quote]You obviously don't have a point and you enjoy arguing blindly for the heck of it with strikers like Totti,Christian Vieri,Del Piero and the likes common sense should tell you that his goal ratio would not be as high as Berba or David Healy who obviously do not have such quality in their sides is that too difficult for your feeble mind to grasp?

You should retract your statement i think the average Scumtwat functions on a sub-zero IQ so do you want to judge Berbatov's exploit on one game? why not judge him when we beat them home and away in the Prem and when we knocked them out of the Carling Cup in the previous season why not judge him when we flogged them 3-0 at the Emirates?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205615#msg3205615 date=1228919883]Inzaghi is NOT!!!  Raul and Van Nistelrooy are on top of Inzaghi!!!!
Unless u are counting all European competitions including UCL, Cup winners cup and UEFA cup.[/quote]Can you not read? i said all competitions

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205615#msg3205615 date=1228919883]What did Inzaghi win for country?[/quote]See this Guffanti so you did not know Inzaghi won the last World Cup with Italy ohh my goodness you need some schooling as your footie knowledge is horribly rusty

@loyika
I would only be comfortable about facing Barca when we sort out our defensive frailties but i agree we do tend to bring it when we face the big boys.As for Maureen's Inter we would beat them easily he lacks the personnel he had at Chelsea and its painfully obvious

Leaving our two strikers back home is a good move in my opinion as the worst case scenario is we finish second and these days that counts for very little in the knockout phase we would need Adebayor and RVP more at the Riverside and they have to be at their sharpest because we need maximum points at Boro so we can be high on confidence when the Scousers come to visit the Emirates

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205273#msg3205273 date=1228915756]Yet more spastic drivel from A-40. . . . . .Berbatov joined Man Utd on the 1st of september(3 months ago).
It is only in your world that players win titles 3 months into the season. . . . .What could he have won with Man Utd in december??
Where a player plays means shyte. . . . Aboutrika plays for Al Ahly and he has won more meaningful titles than[/quote]Your club bias seems to be robbing you of the little common sense you have left!! What did you mean by he is reaping the fruits of playing in a big team my sarcasm was lost on you i can see but i only ask you to please tell me the fruits he has been reaping since joining y'all

In yet another blind goof and dumb comparison you compare Adebayor and Eboue who have won nothing at Arsenal to Aboutrika who has won the CAF Champions League and African Nations Cup please how does that work in the case of Berbatov and Inzaghi knowing fully well that Pippo has won two UCL's and a World Cup as compared to your Berba-dog who has won precious little.Myopic comparisons are a sport for you

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3205273#msg3205273 date=1228915756]25 goals in 57 appearances is shit. . . . .It's even less than 0.50 goals per game. . . .Try Berbatov's 41 in 64 games.
Try Berbatov's average of 23 goals per season since joining the EPL. . . . .Try Berbatov's 20 goal per season mark in the last 5 years.
Your man(Inzaghi) has only 25 international goals in 11 years!!! It is less than 3 goals per annum(what a poor return)!!!
Inzaghi ko, Isakabba ni.[/quote]So what if i say David Healy has an even better goal ratio than Inzaghi and Berbatov should we safely assume that the Northern Irish striker is better than Ronaldo or Batistuta
Did you skip Maths class? 57 appearances in 11 years is about 5 games per year so how is 2 goals per year in 5 appearances a bad ratio knowing fully well that Pippo would probably have to deal with stronger opposition

Inzaghi is the highest goal scorer in all UEFA Competitions whether UCL or Uefa Cup they all count i think you are just drunk off some hatorade juice because you know fully well that Berba would never be as great as Inzaghi for club or country

What has Berba-sulk won for club or country?

Go - Common

Loose yourself - Eminem

Black Republican - Nas ft Jay-Z

Quaresma is a trick pony he should be playing exhibition footie and not competitive footie he would make a good futsal player

We might even get to meet dayokanu's Bayern Munchen if we win that group but frankly i wouldn't care less the only team i am hoping to avoid at least for the knockout stages are Barcelona

bawomolo:
nah it's the cheap bolivian weed sharon is supplying me.  he dropped 35 pts and gave up an equal amount on the defensive end.  if yall need some inside toughness we could always send joking noah to the mavericks for a couple of picks 

Lol you must be high how on earth could you blame Dirk for our loss when we have two dead beat centers? is he superman?
Naah we don't need any of your shyte players why not give us Derrick Rose

MrCrackles:
Na u know o!

Yes na i know when two people are stylishly flirting

Cristalz:
A-40  

I think somebody needs to tan your hide

Brash what did you do to some dude on Nairaland section?He thinks you're a baboon

Would you do the honors?

I was trying to make sure Madam Moderator puts her business before pleasure

bawomolo:
dirk goes 0-6 from 3pt land in a loss to the spurs. as usual, he only makes the perimeter shot against wowo teams. nowinzki offensive rebounding as usual is pitiful.   A-40 shine your eyes  

derrick rose makes the bulls proud again, it wasn't long ago chris duhon and kirk hinrich hunted our dreams.

Are you high on concentrated gbana? he dropped 35 pts and 10 rebounds whether offensive or defensive! rebound na rebound

Damn!! The Mavs lost in Double-OT  thankfully though Jason Kidd came to the party and dropped an unbelievable 24 pts and 12 assists i would not be on his case if he played like this every night but with that being said there are a lot of dead-weights on that team Devean George and Desagana Diop easily come to mind

The shocking result of the night though was the Wizards beating the Pistons

@lai-lai
Don't mind Mr Know it all i thrive on putting people like him in his place he seems not to understand that every winning team needs a right balance of offense and defense in any sport

WadeFTW:
[b]Sixers had a better roster? Really? What a waste of my keystroke proving a dumb arguement.

The Sixers team that year featured Aaron McKie, Dikembe Mutombo, Theo Ratliff, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, Vernon Maxwell, Toni Kukoc & Nazr Muhammed They were all solid contributers in the past and only Mutombo, Snow & McKie were defensive specialists that were at the short end of their prime. Everyone else on that roster were either inexperienced, or past their prime. ALL of Iversons supporting cast were no more than role players and there was no such things as a second option. The offense was basically: Hand Iverson the rock and move the f*** out the way, basically similiar to the Cavs offense last season. LeBron at least had big Z to feed the ball to down low. None of the Sizer low post bigs were known for their offense. They still managed to make the Finals due to great defense & rebounding (that was their specialty, and still managed to take a game from one of the greatest dynasties of all time. LeBron couldn't even will a win from a lesser team.

But LeBrons supporting cast was better. He had Pavlocic, Damon Jones, Daniel Gibson, Donyell Marshall & Ira Newble who were all 3-PT specialists back in the 2006-07 season. LeBron had better shooters on his team. The only respectable outside shooter the Sixers had that year was Vernon Maxwell & Aaron McKie, and they didn't shoot all that well during the season. In fact, they shot worse %s than 6 Cavaliers players comparing the roster

And Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden & Big Z were better than anyone on that Sixers roster.

Not to mention the Sixers were the fifth highest defensive rated team in the league in 2001. LeBrons 2007 team was fourth.

So, no, Iverson roster was certainly not better. Any knowledgable basketball fan would laugh at you for making such a pathetic statement.[/b]

Listen fool you don't want to go the insult route with me trust me on that one! Now as per our argument what stats do you have to back your claim that Donyell Marshal and Ira Newble who saw little or no minutes in that final and Daniel Gibson who was a rookie that only made the spot-light in the Detroit series where offensive juggernauts?what had the likes of Drew Gooden,Larry Hughes and Big Z achieved before coming to the Cavs?.Would you compare A.I of 01 to Lebron of 07? Basketball is not your forte you should try shadow-boxing did you see the combined stats of the entire team outside Lebron? I am sure your moronic self did not know that only Gooden and Gibson where able to manage double digits in the entire roster throughout that series (12.8 and 10.0 pts per game) so much for your better supporting cast theory you would make a good clown at the Ringling Brother's Circus

If you are not stupid you would not call the Spurs a lesser team because they won all 4 Finals they featured in but then its you so i guess stupidity comes natural

WadeFTW:
LeBron was shutdown b/c he couldn't shoot the ball. The Spurs took his greatest strength away from him, which was penetrating by clogging the lane. Don't even come w/ that bull b/c LeBron had at least 5 guys on the team that shot the ball well from behind the arc. It was just that LeBron was reckless w/ the ball and couldn't find open teammates. Moreover, LeBron couldn't hit a jumpshot to save his life and that what ended up hurting the team. Not to mention that LeBron averaged almost 6 turnovers and had one of the worst Finals performances of all time. The Spurs took advantage of the reckless turnovers and long bricks by LeBron and started fastbreaks, b/c if you had any pint of knowledge about the game, you'd know that most long missed jumpshots usually begin fastbreaks at the other end, and LeBron was having a brickfest.

Lebron had an awful Series but could still manage 22 pts per game i have seen better so-called star players with worse stats Kobe had a stinker against the Celts last season and he had an obviously better team.Let me kick some facts for you it would interest you to know that Lebron's team mates where so shyte that none of them where able to provide up to 3 assists per game Lebron provided almost 7  so much for your moronic argument about Lebron not finding open team mates it is painfully obvious you didn't watch that series because i cannot count how many times Cleveland went for minutes on end without being able to make a basket.They where missing free-throws,wide open jumpers and sometimes the ball simply refused to go into the rim.He was surrounded by whack players even experienced NBA analysts would tell you that

WadeFTW:
That is an exception. The SPURS had BOTH. However, having a superstar w/ a great defensive SP around you is way better than having a superstar w/ a great offensive SP around you, and I stand corrected (esp. if you're a perimeter player which LeBron is).

So we partially agree on something 

WadeFTW:
Why are you comparing LeBron to D12? Did I ever compare LeBron to D12. Show me in my post were I did, besides comparing their depth (not head-to-head like you are implying). You obviously have an infatuation w/ not having comprehension skills. I said the Cavs had a better depth, which means the whole roster, not just the starters. Quick to jump the gun, as always.

I saw you talking rubbish about Lebron so i decided to compare him to your over-hyped element which was Dwight Howard.I might have problems with just comprehension skills but you have no skills at all
The Cavs starters as at last season or two seasons ago where barely good enough not to talk of the bench it is obvious you need a dictionary to read and step up your Vocab as the meaning of depth seems to be lost on you

WadeFTW:
And why does D12 have to deliver in the postseason for you to be a believe. Not every superstar can lead win a championship. Not even LeBron (yet). There is some holes in Howards game (not disputing that), but what makes him more effective than Dirk is that he plays more of a big mans game. You have a better chance of winning a championship w/ a low post big like D12 than a jumpshooting big like Dirk. And history AGREES w/ me.[/b]

Because thats what great players do who would mention Dwight Howard's name in 20 years time if he cannot lead Orlando to their First NBA title?Its obvious you are still a new jack in the game the playoffs are the only thing that matters if you didn't know that by now then its obvious you are a basketball novice.Lebron dragged an unfancied Cleveland team to the NBA Finals,Dirk came within two games of winning it!! Dwight is yet to do that and inasmuch as i am not saying he would never do it he has to show me proof before i believe his hype what is so hard in that for you to understand?

WadeFTW:
I cringe anytime I read the grammatical errors on your post. It's like eating paste off the wall. LMAO at bringing Cambys name up. Camby is an overrated defender! Most of his defense consists of weakside blocks and usually get overpowered by his man as he's not a good man defender. Thats why Camby doesn't perform as well, b/c he isn't nearly good as advertised. D12 on the other hand, is a good man defender who can also help out on the low block/weak side and alter shots. Please watch the games. You'll sound inferior in debates.

You are a spastic slowpoke i brought those names up so you could stop ranting and raving about Dwight Howard being in the running for Defensive Player of the year just so you know that some average players have won it too besides who does not know that Marcus Camby mainly relies on blocks and rebounding 

WadeFTW:
[b]WOW, your grammar really needs work. What school did you attend? (LOL) I would have to file a lawsuit against the legimacy of the curriculum. D12 is a pansy on offense that averages over 21 points a game. Tell me how is he a pansy on offense. Yes, he isn't as skilled as Dirk, but he is more dominant (like a poor mans Shaq w/ minimal post moves, albeit still crazy dominant). When he gets the ball in the paint, he is so difficult to defend b/c not only is he strong, but insanely athletic, and you cannot help, but foul him when he goes up strong for a dunk, a hook, scoop shot, etc,

He was so athletic yet he was beat up and and out-muscled like a wuss by a much smaller defender in Maxiell in last season's conference semi's i would only reckon with him when he brings his athleticism to the playoffs

WadeFTW:
LOL! If you adjust the the minutes into equal platform, you'll notice that Dirk doesn't even crack the top 10. In other words, Dirk is only fourth in defensive rebounds b/c he sees more minutes than your average everyday big

He stays out of foul trouble and rarely needs a rest add that to the fact that he is usually effective for much of the game how would he not get more minutes?

WadeFTW:
[b]Sixers had a better roster? Really? What a waste of my keystroke proving a dumb arguement.

The Sixers team that year featured Aaron McKie, Dikembe Mutombo, Theo Ratliff, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, Vernon Maxwell, Toni Kukoc & Nazr Muhammed They were all solid contributers in the past and only Mutombo, Snow & McKie were defensive specialists that were at the short end of their prime. Everyone else on that roster were either inexperienced, or past their prime. ALL of Iversons supporting cast were no more than role players and there was no such things as a second option. The offense was basically: Hand Iverson the rock and move the f*** out the way, basically similiar to the Cavs offense last season. LeBron at least had big Z to feed the ball to down low. None of the Sizer low post bigs were known for their offense. They still managed to make the Finals due to great defense & rebounding (that was their specialty, and still managed to take a game from one of the greatest dynasties of all time. LeBron couldn't even will a win from a lesser team.

But LeBrons supporting cast was better. He had Pavlocic, Damon Jones, Daniel Gibson, Donyell Marshall & Ira Newble who were all 3-PT specialists back in the 2006-07 season. LeBron had better shooters on his team. The only respectable outside shooter the Sixers had that year was Vernon Maxwell & Aaron McKie, and they didn't shoot all that well during the season. In fact, they shot worse %s than 6 Cavaliers players comparing the roster

And Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden & Big Z were better than anyone on that Sixers roster.

Not to mention the Sixers were the fifth highest defensive rated team in the league in 2001. LeBrons 2007 team was fourth.

So, no, Iverson roster was certainly not better. Any knowledgable basketball fan would laugh at you for making such a pathetic statement.[/b]    

LeBron was shutdown b/c he couldn't shoot the ball. The Spurs took his greatest strength away from him, which was penetrating by clogging the lane. Don't even come w/ that bull b/c LeBron had at least 5 guys on the team that shot the ball well from behind the arc. It was just that LeBron was reckless w/ the ball and couldn't find open teammates. Moreover, LeBron couldn't hit a jumpshot to save his life and [b]that what ended up hurting the team. Not to mention that LeBron averaged almost 6 turnovers and had one of the worst Finals performances of all time. The Spurs took advantage of the reckless turnovers and long bricks by LeBron and started fastbreaks, b/c if you had any pint of knowledge about the game, you'd know that most long missed jumpshots usually begin fastbreaks at the other end, and LeBron was having a brickfest.[/b]

That is an exception. The SPURS had BOTH. However, having a superstar w/ a great defensive SP around you is way better than having a superstar w/ a great offensive SP around you, and [b]I stand corrected (esp. if you're a perimeter player which LeBron is).[/b]

Why are you comparing LeBron to D12? Did I ever compare LeBron to D12. Show me in my post [b]were I did, besides comparing their depth (not head-to-head like you are implying). You obviously have an infatuation w/ not having comprehension skills. I said the Cavs had a better depth, which means the whole roster, not just the starters. Quick to jump the gun, as always. [/b]

WOW, your grammar really needs work. What school did you attend? (LOL) I would have to file a lawsuit against the [b]legimacy of the curriculum. D12 is a pansy on offense that averages over 21 points a game. Tell me how is he a pansy on offense. Yes, he isn't as skilled as Dirk, but he is more dominant (like a poor mans Shaq w/ minimal post moves, albeit still crazy dominant). When he gets the ball in the paint, he is so difficult to defend b/c not only is he strong, but insanely athletic, and you cannot help, but foul him when he goes up strong for a dunk, a hook, scoop shot, etc, 

And why does D12 have to deliver in the postseason for you to be a believe. Not every superstar can lead win a championship. Not even LeBron (yet). There is some holes in Howards game (not disputing that), but what makes him more effective than Dirk is that he plays more of a big mans game. You have a better chance of winning a championship w/ a low post big like D12 than a jumpshooting big like Dirk. And history AGREES w/ me.[/b]      

I cringe anytime I read the grammatical errors on your post. It's like eating paste off the wall. LMAO at bringing Cambys name up. Camby is an overrated defender! Most of his defense consists of weakside blocks and usually get overpowered by his man as he's not a good man defender. Thats why Camby doesn't perform as well, b/c he isn't nearly [b]good as advertised. D12 on the other hand, is a good man defender who can also help out on the low block/weak side and alter shots. Please watch the games. You'll sound inferior in debates.[/b]  

LOL! If you adjust the the minutes into equal platform, you'll notice that Dirk doesn't even crack the top 10. In other words, Dirk is only fourth in defensive rebounds b/c he sees more minutes [b]than your average everyday big[/b]    

You're an idiot. [b]Thats was a poll based on on who you'd take ON YOUR TEAM to be in the low post for ONE season. Why comparing two different teams?  Duncans supporting cast was marginally better than D12 and has had more experience playing w/ them, so of course Duncan would have more success. Take out of the box next time. It helps

Oh wait. . .[/b]

With your idiotic rants one would think you have a perfect mastery of the English Language.Hypocritical Pharisee what did i type in my piece that was too complicated for your feeble mind to understand? you made at least 7 grammatical faux pas and you are busy talking about my grammar

WadeFTW:
How did I overcontradicted myself? Explain.

And of course offense & defense is 50/50. Did you catch the jist of the arguement.

You can't even spell argument and you are ranting about my curriculum you should be shot 

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196592.msg3202474#msg3202474 date=1228853756]Anutha moronic statement. . . . . . .Inzaghi wouldn't have scored 23 goals in a poor team like Tottenham!!!
He is reaping the fruits of playing in a big team. Who the crap is Inzaghi??
Pippo has only scored more than 20 goals ONCE in his pathetic career. . . . . .Apart from that, what has he done??
What is his international record for Italy?? 25 goals in about 57 appearances which has spanned 11 years.
25 international goals in 11 years?? This Inzaghi must be super hot for the muppets on this thread.
Inzaghi ma left foot . . . . .Let him win UEFA golden boot THRICE like Van Nistelrooy did for Man Utd before u make comparisons.[/quote]Naah dawg whats moronic is your comparison of Berba to a great like Pippo Inzaghi,what fruits is Berba reaping? what has he won since joining y'all?Inzaghi has won loads of titles with Milan there is no guarantee Berba would have such success ok maybe he could win another Carling Cup but is it my fault that no big club noticed Berba was good enough to play for them till he was in his late 20's.He is so world-class his resume of teams are Bayer Leverkussen and Tottenham
When Berba scores goals that win UCL Finals then you can get back to me on this dumb comparison of yours
25 goals in 57 appearances is almost a goal every two games so whats your point that is not a bad stat especially when you compare the calibre of teams Italy would face in major competitions to the likes of Bulgaria that cannot even qualify for one
The laurels Inzaghi has gathered from his exploits are titles that Berbatov would never have

WadeFTW:
Again, regarding LeBrons supporting cast. That team was one of the best defensive and rebounding teams in the league. It just shows how much more a great rebounding and defense is important. Allen Iverson took a similiar team to the Finals in 2001, so what exactly is your point? As a matter of fact: Iverson team actually won a game in the Finals, unlike LeBrons team. This, again, is yet another example of defense + rebounding is more pivitol to a teams success than offense

A superstar w/ defensive and rebounding oriented supporting cast & little offense >>>>> A superstar w/ offensive oriented supporting cast & little defense

A.I's Sixers had homecourt advantage sef and a better roster they where the best team in the East that season comparing them to underdogs like the Cavs says a lot about your basketball knowledge
Besides don't you get simple english Mr Man their rebounding and defensive stats where inconsequential because they had no offense Lebron was shut down for most of the Series and no one else stepped up even the so-called fantastic defensive and rebounding team became useless because they could not take advantage of turnover's from San Antonio they had arguably the worst points average in NBA Finals history
Every other thing you are speaking is just grammar even a superstar with a good defensive and rebounding oriented supporting cast equally needs an offense in equal measure the Spurs always get hyped about their defense but with players like Parker and Ginobili the offensive side to their game is grossly under-rated 

WadeFTW:
[b]Lets not forget that D12 was 22 years old then and has yet to reach his prime. LeBron supporting cast was deeper than D12s last year, although I'm not saying that D12 is the better player. But I wasn't comparing D12 to LeBron anyway. I was comparing him to Dirk, to give a prime example of what I mean by a REAL low post big.

They had a poll on ESPN today asking who would you rather have on the post for the rest of the season, comparing Duncan and D12. A whopping 71% chose D12. Imagine if they'd replaced Duncans name w/ Nowitzki. Thats just how much more lopsided the polls would be. And anyone who would choose Nowitzki over D12 would either be a blind homer or officially be considered dumber than a sack of rocks.

Read my posts carefully. I'm comparing D12 to Nowitzki b/c they virtually play the same position, but their styles are different.

I'm not also disputing the fact that Nowitzki is impactful, rather that a guy ike D12 is 3X more impactful. The defensive disparity is a BIGGGG boost. D12 is the leading DPOY candidate as we speak. He grabbs rebounds like a madman and averages over 4 blocks a game. Oppossing team guards are so afraid to penetrate into the lane b/c of D12s big frame and intimidating athletic abilities, so they resort to taking low percentage shots (jumpshots). THATS impact. Once D12 gets the ball in the post, hes too big and athletic to control and oppossing bigs just watch him take high % shots (shots closer to the rim) and dunk the ball w/ ferocity.
THATS impact. D12 leads the leads in offensive rebounds, meaning he gives his team alot of second chance points. THATS impact. Nowitzki doesn't do any of that and is a liability on defense. All he basically does better than D12 is shoot. And that is only for the guards to do. NOT BIG MEN!!!

And those handcheck rules you bring up doesn't affect guys like D12. He actually LEADS the league in free-throw attempts. That means he gets alot of calls in the post. Prime Shaq was a big and he led the league in FTAs. Handcheck rules doesn't necessarily apply to guards as you claim. As long as you're willing to ATTACK the rim, you'd be fine. If you look at all the guards/wings that attack the rim like Dwyane Wade, Devin Harris or LeBron James. Is it a coincidence those same guys top the league in free throw attempts? But then you're contradicting yourself, b/c since free-throw attempts are a by-product of attacking the rim and drawing fouls (due to handcheck), then generally jumpshooters like Dirk aren't proned to getting those calls b/c they don't attack enough. Remember 83% of Dirks attempts are off jumpers, so there was no reason for you to bring up handchecking, esp. if you were looking to support your arguement. 

Your statements hold no water. And I can barely understand your grammar/sentence structures.[/b]

How old is Lebron?he is only a year older and was about same age if not younger than Dwight when he dragged the Cavs to the Finals but thats not the issue how can you possibly compare a supporting cast of Hedo Turkoglu,Rashad Lewis,Jameer Nelson? to an ageing Ilgauskas,Ben Wallace an inconsistent Varejao and Pavlovic? you must be high on mushrooms your excuses for Dwight Howard are not working for me as there are no guarantees that he would be as good as you are hyping him up to be in years to come.Now back to your comparison to him and Dirk! Dwight is panya on offense and despite his centaur-like body structure he still got pounded in the paint by a Jason Maxiell who was amazingly 5 inches shorter and i am sure a few pound s lighter too  it is only shyte Centers and defenders like Kwame Brown,Diop and Erick Dampier that would be scared to guard Dwight! D12 has been doing pretty good but if he does not deliver in post-season your theory of him being the perfect and best big man in the league does not count for squat
Dirk has never been a post-player in the first place me i don't know where you get your figures from but D12 is a Center and Dirk is a power forward their styles are pretty contrasting i have never been a big fan of regular season stats though and by the time the playoff season comes along you would see why! Marcus Camby has won defensive player of the year a few times too so has Ron Artest so why are you ranting about being DPOY? his stats are very impressive but whether it would count come playoff time when it matters is a different story
Now talking about defense Dirk is number 4 in defensive rebounds in the league per game he might not be the best defender but he is not as soft as you haters paint him to be

Dwight might have the better stats but till he proves his worth in the playoffs  you guys should just tape it shut and stop over-hyping that is my point

And one last thing ESPN polls don't count for squat an ageing TD still managed the Western Conference Finals how far did Mr Superman go?

Lol its just friendly banter steel sharpeneth steel now don't you read your bible we are just exercising our knowledge of the game

sistawoman:
A-40 you for get about those dudes that are mentally challanged (that the PC term right). They don't tell you when you start dating them that they are mentally challanged but you find out as soon as you try to end it with them, they just don't understand you anymore. It is like they stop speaking all human languages.

I thought she meant obsessive chasers which obviously means you are not dating yet but if you are ever so unlucky to date a mentally challenged person that conceals such important information from you then thats too bad i don't care lol
Seriously though every man has some pride to an extent and if you can dent it somehow trust me he would leave you

Apparently some people here don't know the meaning of spouse its not like i am against premarital sex sha

Naah the Berba-dog is better than Inzaghi statement just killed it for me he would be mobbed if he said that in public.Inzaghi was painting Europe red when Berba-dog was still shining boots in Sofia