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toba: That's why i said you have comprehension challenge. Its not a must for you to quote me if you cant understand what you're attempting to rebut. I said he didn't feature, not that he wasn't taken to the WC. The 2010 WC squad included

GK Tim Wiese
FW Mario Gómez

and neither of them featured at the WC for Germany. Im thinking of what to do to you. Whether to get a cane to flog you or to tell you to do frog jump and post the pictures here

Chimooo!! So rather than admit you made a honest mistake you would rather tell more lies than OJ Simpson when he was on trial. You are a big phucking disgrace!

Eediot!! Not only was Gomez taken to the World Cup but he featured in at least 3 matches so you are still a liar and a very dishonest person. You can't possibly be a servant of God as you claim hell even orisha worshippers do not lie this shamelessly

toba: Now im ready to extend the scope of this discourse. What's your definition of talent? Do you mean under Klinsmann, Germany were lacking in talent?

Are you ret@rded? Why do you keep asking these dumb questions? Who does not know that 98-04 was when German football was at its nadir posting worst performances on the International stage and twice failing to get past the group stage even getting humiliated at home by England of all countries. Even the WC Final in 02 was unexpected as all Die Mannschaft had was pretty much Ballack and Kahn

As at Klinsmann's era how many World Class players were available? Just Ballack! Even before the World Cup it was not expected for them to get the semi-final and go two minutes away from forcing penalties vs Italy

toba: Of course if you consulted google, yahoo, msn or even Babalawo, would you have done us that in the first place. Are the players available to be used by Joachim low? I remember its about Germany.

Im asking you what you mean by him not being an elite player. I know many Bayern fans on this thread that love Gomez so much and are waiting for you to expatiate.

You asked if he was elite and what was my yardstick so I listed players that were better at the time! Stop being an eediot! The debate was not about Germany because if it was I would not be listing players that were obviously not eligible for Die Mannschaft

Between Euro 2008- SA 2010 Mario Gomez would not be listed among the top 10 strikers in Europe that is all I know. Make of it what you will I'm done educating your slow a$$ on this issue

toba: funny comment my friend. How many goals does Stefan kiessling average per season? If I'm a Bayern President, i will will Buy him.

Have you asked yourself then why no big team in Europe including Bayern wants no part of Kiessling?

toba: No. You were being dishonest by saying other players should have confronted drogba, whereas 'Boatank' or 'Boa drum' or 'Boa Bomb' was the closest to him. No defender is immune from errors even Badstuber can make mistake tonight.

Blaming Boa-TANK is not credible when I could point out 3 other players who were not even marking anyone in that play! A set-piece for that matter. Also as we found out at the Euros a little over a month later Badstuber would not have done better

nitlad: Culprits? Plural? Sheybi you say na only Toba dey talk about am?

Abi you dey fear to include Dayo your almighty who's so bitter he can't stop looking for ways to denigrate him?

Toba is the only one bitter about Kroos's exit you halfwit! Most of the other posts you see related to Kroos are used to rile up Toba and nothing more and in that instance Myself, Lordave and Dayokanu are also guilty of that, only an accomplished ret@rd like yourself is capable of confusing it for bitterness. So comot from my circumference. Ewu ara

nitlad: ^^^
Abi are you blind? Sheybi you nor see this redundant ramblings from the bitter troglodyte in quote? Oponu.



You krauts have not moved on!

Shut up your mouth you ignorant alabosi! An intelligent person woulda pointed out the culprits and not make generic statements like the Sergio Ignoramos you are

AirborneLacer: It's glaring clear, they're placing experience above everyother thing.

It's not just Urby. They've got Maicon, Totti, De Rossi, Balzaretti, Cole, Keita, Borriello and De Sanctis - these lot are all doing 30plus and are all first team members.

Nihilist and Dhelake are surprised that a Destro and Nando swap deal is being talked up but heck I'm not.

Roma are building a team of pensioners, Torres would just be the pretty one in the mix!

I don't know what is it with Italians and these old folks! Is it that they don't know that e get where experience dey turn liability. AC Milan still have Muntari and Essien on their books for goodness sake!

If they are phoolish enough to give you Destro for Torres take the offer and run!!!!!

Abeg how do we prosecute tomorrow's game. Badstuber and Dante are the only center-backs we have atm! I'm a bit confused doesn't our B-Team have any promising center-backs sef?

Anyway I heard Ribery is out for another 2 weeks at least and Robben might not play either

Ideally:

Neuer

Lahm Badstuber Dante Alaba

Rode Hojberg

Müller Götze Shaq-Attack

Lewandowski


But I suspect Guardiola would rather go with

Neuer

Badstuber Dante Alaba

Hojbjerg Lahm Rode Bernat

Müller Lewandowski Götze

nitlad: Of what use are positive comments when they are all bitter he left them? Can't you see they can't stop talking about him!

Look at this critter! Who cares about Kroos? Apart from Toba that comes here to bore us to tears about how we didn't pay what he felt he was worth who else comes here to talk about Kroos?

lekkie073: the same circumstance DAT made u activate ur wildcard in gw1 might showcase again in gw2. so what do u do then?

I would manage my team till January! Looked at my team as constituted and I couldn't move forward with them. I can move forward with this bunch

Roma considering swapping Destro for Torres? Are they terminally mad? Although I suspected this first when they went for Emmanuelson and then a washed up Ashley Cole but the Serie A is so slow even dinosaurs like Ashley and Evra would survive but with Allegri at Juve Roma had a legit chance of snatching the Scudetto for the first time in a while looks like they are about to piss it away

AirborneLacer: You're not alone.
Ibime is with you

No time brah

U1: Una go soon tire. This one wey una dey fling wildcards left, right and center. I'm even surprised Ibime appears to be on the same track after only week 1! I won't be surprised if una don throw in the towel by January.

Wildcards are good but sometimes overrated! Thanks to auto-complete for example I had duds like Mata, Giroud (to an extent), Bacuna, Odemwingie, Flanagan and Nugent in my team how do I offload these number of no-hopers without using my wildcard? Is it when I'm 500 pts behind the leaders? I would manage myself till January with the spine of my team

I don activate my wildcard already. No time for iranu

toba: Where when and how? Are you alright?

This was you less than 24 hours ago so it is either you suffered blunt force trauma to the head that led to severe memory loss or you are just a natural born liar. I'm leaning towards the latter

toba: Of course, its possible. Mario Gomez made a terrible mistake at Euro 2008 and was sent to the bench, this made him not to feature at the 2010 WC. Does that take anything away from Mario Gomez thereafter or prevented him from scoring more goals than other strikers second to only Ronaldo and Messi in 2012?

toba: What experince does Podloski and schweinsteiger have when they were invited for international competition and they played active roles? What experience does Klose have for Voller to include in the WC squad and scored 5 goals? Whats your yardstick for saying Gomez wasn't an elite in 2008?

You could use some discernment! You are too simple-minded

Are you comparing that era to the Ribbech/Voeller and Klinsmann days when Die Nationalmannschaft was seriously lacking talent and options were fewer?

I listed 12 strikers without the help of google or wiki that were better than Gomez as at the time. Gomez was not elite!!

toba: German fans are not really known for rioting over what they feel so strongly on. Many fans still criticizes Low for neglecting him. Even when we had Janker at the WC, we didn't riot before he was sent to the bench

You do know I don't mean 'riot' in the literal sense right? It is one thing to criticize and another to do so objectively. What difference can Kiessling make in that team? If you were Bayern GM would you buy Kiessling?

toba: To confirm your incorrectness, we didn't even start this discourse in time immemorial.

Sarcasm is lost on you

toba: That's not how i see/saw it. That's football and you're unnecessarily being biased or choosing to act ignorant. We can extend such trivial question to other french defenders/players in the WC instead of only Rafael Varane who was the culprit and primary contact with Hummels.

Blaming Varane and Boateng solely for the goal Hummels and Drogba scored is one-track minded and over-simplistic! But this is your selling point so I am not suprised!

You are being hypocritical! If it was Kroos involved now you would be here chatting megedefegede about contribution yet you are talking about me being biased

toba: When you admit that Boateng was the one who ought to do more to prevent Drogba from scoring

You are on a loooooooong thing

Whatever error you insist on pinning on the Boa-TANK he has since atoned for it with his classic performances in the UCL and World Cup Final

toba: SMH. you must be a bad student in school. Did you read the link? that was why i included this addendum

I want all true Bayern fans that are open minded to read the link and lets discuss the intricacies. cause of deliberately mischievous fans like you

My friend you can go and join Kroos in Madrid if you please. We don't give a phuck about Kroos! That's what it is!

The league starts tomorrow and all you do is rant and moan about a player who is no longer with us. I was pained by Mandzukic's exit as well but you don't see me go on and on and on about a player who has left the club

toba: Let me quickly post some serious news

1 Bayern broke a promise to Pep that they'd never sell Kroos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2728799/Bayern-Munich-broke-promise-Pep-Guardiola-Toni-Kroos-never-sold-claims-new-biography-boss.html

Call it 1-1 between club & coach in broken promises

Germany midfielder Toni Kroos joined Real Madrid this summer
Kroos was sold after contract dispute with Bayern Munich
New biography on Pep Guardiola claims he was made promise by Bayern that Kroos would never be sold
Kroos sale was authorised by Bayern board against Guardiola's wishes, claims book
Guardiola is now facing headache in central midfield after injuries to Thiago Alcantara and Bastian Schweinsteiger


I want all true Bayern fans that are open minded to read the link and lets discuss the intricacies.

You are posting links from a British journo about German football? Lol for real?

toba: There's nothing elites there. We have such in many profession

Your dishonesty is disgusting for a so-called 'servant of God' I asked you to name just 3 players who have done what the Boa-TANK has done at the highest level of football and you are here telling cool stories like Jimi Solanke used to do

toba: Wil;l you force a semi fit player into the team, when there are other viable options?

Cheiii! More dishonesty on display! He had a cold from after the 2nd round till the Final? You mean a professional footballer would battle cold for 2 weeks! Abi na bird flu or SARS?

toba: Just know that he didnt play RB, but LB at the 2010 WC

You better stop clutching at straws! You that alluded that Gomez didn't make the 2010 WC team

toba: How do you mean? whats your yardstick for measuring elites? Neither was he a fan of Klose either. Cos it was thought that Low would have played Gomez instead of Klose. Klose too was at Bayern in 2010. Its very possible that Low thought about that. No player immuned from mistakes. What about stefan kiesling? What has he done to Low?

Circa Euro 2008 till the 2010 WC I would easily list 10-15 strikers better than Mario Gomez so he was definitely not elite and if you are in doubt let me start
Messi, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, Torres, Villa, Eto'o, Henry, Ibrahimovic, Drogba, Forlan, Grafite, Milito,

All these I listed in my sleep so don't tell me Gomez was elite in that timeframe, Klose at least had some International pedigree so it is understandable that Loew opted to stick with him

As for Kiessling, fans are not necessarily rioting at his exclusion do you see anything Kiessling woulda added to the team?

toba: The point im making is that Badi up till he got injured was a better CB than Boateng. Boateng is also a fantastic player

Your opinion

toba: Then i wouldnt take you serious on this point. If you cant tell me how many competition he has started for us to test the validity of your point, then no need arguing further with you on this.

You think I care whether you take me serious on anything or not? You have obviously not being paying attention

toba: Smh. So people dont aspire or cant aspire anymore? How does it affect my choice of word. My dream is to become the Nigerian president, what wrong with that? If i talk now. But i will not so you wouldnt misunderstand it as you seldom do. My dream CB pairing will soon happen. DANTE BADI for bayern

There is a difference between dreams and hallucination

toba: then put your money where your mouth his. Let the gods be

Nwaghi ife neme

toba: i wouldnt take offense, course you're free to express yourself even though you're very not correct

Since time immemorial you have been the only incorrect one here

toba: Then go watch the video again cos youre just making things up here. Boateng was the one marking drogba and no other player was close. If thats even the case as you posited, then he did a bad job that night.

That is how you choose to see it! The question is what were Van Buyten and Gomez doing in the box who exactly were they marking? No one! I saw Schweini cat-walking out of the box in the 88th minute of a Champions League Final But no let's blame the only player that made an attempt to stop Drogba

You have also not told me what Badstuber did to prevent Balotelli from scoring twice at the Euros that same year

toba: Call it whatever. It was a particular discourse that led to that. He came in against BVB from the bench to replace the injured player, did he play well in that game yes or no?

This is not germane to the discussion! You would have to wait till the apocalypse to get an answer from me

toba: The friendly was a rehearsal of the WC, cos during the friendlies, even Hoewedes played as LB. You can recall that we booth said, low was wrong to do so. He was perfecting the wing backs. He had the perfect fix for the CB. No one said Boateng is not good at all

I don't think anyone was comfortable with Hoewedes playing at LB we were all enthralled by Durm's performance and thought he could play in the WC. In the end Loew went for the conservative option playing 4 CBs in the lineup

toba: I will do it gradually.


Philip lahm. not CB but center of pack. Arne Friedrich BRB with the others

I am waiting. . . .

So you can understand the elite company Boateng is in! Not just feature in those positions but deliver competently

toba: he had cold. Im not lying, check the post above

You would miss out on the WC Finals and semis because of a cold? Hehehehe stop you are embarrasing yourself now. He had a cold but played in the semis and late in the Finals

toba: Boa-TANK was playing at right back and even left back. is what you said, but lahm was the one playing the RB from game one. He 'wasnt playing at right back and even left back'

You are clutching at straws mate! I included 'left back' in my post too so I am right by default

toba: Of course, its possible. Mario Gomez made a terrible mistake at Euro 2008 and was sent to the bench, this made him not to feature at the 2010 WC. Does that take anything away from Mario Gomez thereafter or prevented him from scoring more goals than other strikers second to only Ronaldo and Messi in 2012?

What is your point here? Mario Gomez was not an elite scorer in the timeframe you listed! Van Gaal was not exactly a fan of him which also affected his chances of featuring prominently in 2010, I find it comical that you posit his miss in Euro 2008 as a factor that made him not play in 2010. We don't even know if Bads would be as good as he used to be which is not saying much so I don't get what you are on about (for the record I hope Bads does well he is a good kid and I only wish him the best)

toba: Nope. You've shown this poor understanding on couple of occasions during our discourse here and still showing it here. Its highly illogical to bring the notion that Boateng had '40 appearances even with 2 or 3 red cards in the 12/13 season' compared with someone who was injured months earlier. All comparison for that year ends when he got injured.

And who makes that rule? You made it sound like Boa-TANK was a spare tire or benchwarmer in the team and I am telling you it is not so! Not even when Badstuber was fit so you are the only one clearly deficient of understanding as usual

toba: Tell me how many competition has he started for Club and Country thus far?

You do the counting that is not my business! My point stands! As a starting CB Badstuber has won nothing while Boa-TANK only needs a Euros to complete his title repertoire. This is fact! You can argue against that till you are blue in the face. Ko kan aye

toba: You just like showing poor understanding. I said ( which I'm sure is what you're misconstruing) Badstuber-Dante partnership will soon happen, not that it has happened. There are couple of things that would be for it to happen. Firstly Badstuber will have to recover full fitness. He was in form in 2012 for him to have been selected to pair Hummels in Euro 2012. He became unfortunate with the injury.

Your choice of words are awful gee! How is it a dream when it is not better than what we have at present? Your post is tinged with bad belle and player-hateration

toba: I will take it that you've conceded that he was in form till he got injured.

I'm not conceding shyte! FOH

toba: Pure rubbish. Do you even know how to analyze football at all? Who was Boateng supposed to mark? Who jumped with Drogba? When hummels scored for Germany against France and Varane failed in his responsibility, the blame should have gone to another defender right? Rubbish. I still suggest you should go to www.youtube.com to review the goal again.

I'm not even that old but i have forgotten more about football than you can possibly remember. No offense

You are just chatting like a simpleton! So when you jump with an attacker it means you must be his marker by default? It doesn't occur to you that perhaps he was trying to cover for another player's faux-pas

toba: May be Badstuber would have, since he didn't play, all probabilities can be forgone.

Cool story! Maybe if I was born in Brooklyn I coulda been Michael Jordan or Jay-Z

toba: Asking which is the first Alphabet, answering with the last Alphabet. Is that the question i asked? The question is did he play well after replacing badstuber against BVB? I want an answer, which my next response would be premised on.

You are the king of dumbass questions! Why da phuck are you asking me this dumbass question? Assuming he didn't play well against BVB how did it affect the treble we won and what could his not playing or not playing well in that game do to affect subsequent achievements

Davidbanky: Hahahaha u beat me to it .... Now the media want to sell the guy, everytime they want to talk about him, Philip lahm has played fantastically well for years now and nothing to appreciate him with ... Yeye people, that's why I don't even send their awards cos it's not fully justified

Personal awards are a bonus at this point. Who does not know Lahm has been the best defender in Europe for the last 3 seasons

I just want anyone be it Lahm's mother or grandmother to beg him to play at the Euros so he can retire having won every trophy available to be won

raumdeuter: From L'Équipe magazine:
-Bayern and Benatia is heating up
-Moussa Sissoko, Benatia's agent, was in Munich on Monday where an agreement was struck between him and Bayern
-He returned to Rome on Tuesday to forward them Bayern's offer of 30 million
-Roma want 35 million + 5 million in incentive bonuses
-Roma also gave Benatia the choice to sign a new contract
-Benatia has let his representatives know he will absolutely not sign that extension and he absolutely wishes to move to Bayern
-Roma are prepared for his departure and have shortlisted Nastatic

I don't know why we boxed ourselves into such a tight corner. We should not be paying anything more than €20m for Benatia. Actually I would rather we spent that money on the aforementioned Nastasic who is faaaar younger albeit injury prone as well

toba: Are you sure you've started following Germany in 2010? Boateng came in from the start against Ghana. Badstuber had played left back for Bayern up to the UCL and low opted for him as LB. Boateng played at LB and not RB. Lahm played RB for Germany in South Africa.

Loool what is this chap on about? I have been following Die Mannschaft since Euro 92

I listed LB in my post so I am wrong about nothing, also tell us why Badstuber was benched from the Serbia game till the end of the tournament? He stunk so bad he was never used again! Haha

toba: You're right. Just try and review Bayern's game in 2009/2010 season.

But he went to the biggest stage of all and was benched by who else?

toba: I guess you just post/quote without understanding what you're responding to. Badstuber got injured in December 2012. Don't you know he was injured? I'm talking about prior to him being injured he played more games till December 2012. Read my post again

Naah you are the one that never understands what you say how much more the rest of us. We all know he was injured Captain Obvious so I don't know why you are shadow-boxing

toba: You're always in a haste to respond and most times fail to have a grabs of the focal issue. I brought it up as an inference.
this is what you said

A40 said:


But Badstuber is yet to win anything as a starter for club and country while the Boa-TANK needs just the Euros to have achieved every trophy available for club and country.

I should have said as a starting CB. Badstuber is yet to win anything as a starting CB for club and country! So looking at the big picture I am still correct! How is the Badstuber-Dante partnership a dream one when Bads is yet to win anything as a CB

toba: That Badstuber hasnt won anything for Germany, using this logic, then assuming Germany won 2012 Euro without some players, then we can start making comparison between players that were present then and those that are present now.

And who are these players? What is the meaning of this megedefegede? What does it have to do with this argument? When you are done assuming please let me know

toba: Prior to him being injured, he was inform. or was he not? He was even playing LB when Alaba got injured.

Story for the gods! Boateng was also a starter

toba: Go to youtube.com to view that goal again and come back here to apologize.

Apologize for? Wasn't Badstuber destroyed by Balotelli? Bad-stuber was culpable for both goals

As for the UCL where was the tallest man on the pitch? Conventional logic suggests that he was brought on to defend the opposition's most dangerous header of the ball, why wasn't he able to accomplish that task?

I would like to know that defender not named Vidic that would outwit Drogba in an aerial battle are you claiming Badstuber woulda prevented that goal?

toba: But did he play well after replacing badstuber against BVB?

He didn't play well but went on to play 40 games that season despite picking about 2 or 3 red cards in all comps

toba: What are the obvious stuff?

Pep's tactics, our potential demise in Europe last season which from the 2nd round game was pretty obvious

toba: its not a claim but an assertion by the coach. He wasn't even used there in the early games, till hummels got injured and properly from the game against france. kevin grosskreutz too could have functioned as RB. He was warming up to replace Schweini in the final, just as a CB in Hoewedes played all 7 matches as a LB. nothing new in that.

Even if he wasn't used there that was purely tactical and not an indictment on Boa-TANK's abilities how many times do I have to drum it in your ears that Boa-TANK not starting at CB doesn't mean he is not good enough

Grosskreutz shoulda, woulda, coulda but did not play a single minute so what is your point?

toba: Stop manufacturing things out of your imaginations. Take me up on what ive said directly and not just some thinking of yours

I don't need to take you up on what you said directly. This is what you implied so the onus is on you to answer the question. If you play a player out of his position in favor of another player this must mean the latter player is better! That is what you are implying

toba: Dont start with this your act again. Here are few quotes from low

"Per Mertesacker was a bit ill after the [last] game but that was not the reason why he did not play from the beginning," Low said.

"We had a few tired players and some suffered a cold. But that was not a negative in the end, so the whole team is fit and everybody is able to play."

and thereafter he said this

"When we analysed France we knew they had two big central defenders and with [Yohan] Cabaye and [Paul] Pogba in midfield we knew it was difficult to go through the middle so I decided to use the sides. That's why I played Lahm down the wings.

"This is one of our tactical strengths in that we can play different ways. Against Algeria it was one specific formation, today it was another with Klose in attack and trying to keep the two full-backs busy. France have many players through the middle so we had to play wide and Lahm is very good at that."

Playing Lahm at right-back meant Jerome Boateng moved into the centre at the expense of Per Mertesacker.

In explaining the decision, Low said: "To use Boateng and Hummels was for tactical reasons as I have seen [Mathieu] Valbuena and [Antoine] Griezmann play and they will always have great speed going forward. I thought Jerome and Mats could solve that problem.

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You can draw up whatever conclusion you like from my submission above

What is your point? You said Boa-TANK was brought on to help with the speed of the French attackers. Ok tell us why he started the semi-finals and finals as well and you are busy telling us story for the gods.

For those that assume Bayern is going to stroll to a title this season. O.Y.O is your case especially with this megedefegede formation Guardiola is trying to force down our throats

Dortmund now have serious depth to challenge us to the finish if they can find a way to stay motivated against teams not named Bayern whether they do so is up to them but I'm pretty sure they would cause serious gobe at home and in Europe too. Gundogan is back in training btw

raumdeuter: Bayern is partnering with SAP. This was announced just today and we would be touring Asia next summer

bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-19/bayern-munich-s-sap-deal-helps-soccer-players-to-fitness.html

First Giorgio Armani, Phillips and now Business software giants SAP

Looks like their software would also help us better analyze our player performance

Now if only we could get to sign some players. Time is ticking

toba: This aspect of your post interests me. Badstuber playing with hummels in an international competition means he's better than those on the bench. Till he got injured in December 2012, he played regularly than Boateng did at Bayern and was already pairing either Hummels, Mertersacker or H. Westermann in the National team

The same Badstuber that went to the 2010 tournament and was promptly benched while the versatile Boa-TANK was playing at right back and even left back. Unlike Badstuber Boa-TANK is actually not useless outside the CB position so if Westermann or Mertesacker are playing it doesn't make them better

Secondly Badstuber wasn't playing more games than Boa-TANK if that was the case then how did he manage 40 appearances even with 2 or 3 red cards in the 12/13 season?

toba: I get really angry when you bring up this assertion that somebody hasnt won anything. Honestly i dont like it. Klose never won anything with Germany till 2014 but had previously helped the team to two big finals and two big semi finals, does that make him inferior to Mario Gomez? Or If Badstuber had been fit, do you think with the form he had in 2012, he wouldnt have been part of the squad to win the 2013 UCL? haba The final that we lost in Munich, he didnt play and Drogba was able to equalize by jumping higher than Boateng to score. Till badi got injured, he had higher ratings than Boateng. We played hannover 96, Freiburg and BVB. Boateng was on the bench consecutively, till he came in to replace Badi. The Partnership was lahm Dante Badi Alaba as back four. Dont under estimate what could have happened

You are comparing Klose's roles to Badstuber's? Is this a joke? Gomez a benchwarmer that season to Boateng that was a starter? Are you auditioning for a comedy show?

What form did Badstuber show? Bottomline is he was not available that season and played a very negligible role in our success. Van Buyten did more than Badstuber abeg I no dey for this your awo kan igba kan yarns

Van Buyten was to blame for the Drogba goal btw and I don't see what Badstuber would have done differently! He got destroyed by Balotelli in the Euros incase you forgot

Higher ratings? Show me proof

Loool! What happened to the first 11 or 12 consecutive games that Boa-TANK started? Get your facts right gee Boa-TANK was nursing an injury and was just recovering which explains why he started the Freiburg, Dortmund and Hannover game from the bench! He missed the Nuremberg game and Valencia game in the UCL as well

toba: then youre are not paying attention to happenings. Most of all the things i said about PEP and Bayern has happened especially regarding his squad. Boateng never played as CB in the WC till hummels got injured. YES OR NO? Jlow said he opted for Boateng as a CB against france because of the pace of the french player. So what have i said that hasn't happened by more than 50%? Even the WC squad i predicted were 90% accurate. lobatan

Stop feeling like Mungo Park bros! The few things you get right are usually the obvious stuff

Where Boateng played is immaterial! You claimed he wasn't used at CB because he was deemed not good enough I told you he was not used there because he can function elsewhere as well. Using your arcane logic Mustafi and Boateng are better than Lahm at RB after all Lahm didn't play there till Mustafi got injured! I'm sure Loew also thought Fred and Higuain were fast that is why Boa-TANK started in the semis and finals respectively. Lobatan!

Ibime: Get lost nigga.

Chale stop being so sensitive

Ibime what is your position on this present Chelsea squad? Is it adequate and better than Liverpool's cos if shyte should hit the fan i no want make December reach now make you come begin dey tell me story for the gods

toba: Badstuber will be fit before January. He was a good defender and also a starter as CB for Bayern and Germany. Why was he used to pair Hummel's in Euro 2012? Assuming, he was fit for the WC, he would still have played. Let's wait and see what will happen.

Its not news start schweini isn't preferred by pep. If thiago comes, schwen would be bench Lahm is now a 'defensive midfielder just like Alaba

Fingers crossed let's see what becomes of Badstuber, he and Dante are both left-footed so it remains to be seen how they can complement each other other obvious issues aside

But Badstuber is yet to win anything as a starter for club and country while the Boa-TANK needs just the Euros to have achieved every trophy available for club and country. Badstuber playing with Hummels doesn't necessarily mean he is better than Boa-TANK it only means he is not as versatile so he has to play at CB same way Rafinha and Mustafi playing at RB ahead of Lahm doesn't make them better than him

Schweini if fit would play! Guardiola cannot be phoolish to that extent to leave Fussballgott on the bench when he is fully fit. He would be playing with sack letter

raumdeuter: No be the same prediction that told us Boateng would never start in Central defence for Germany at the world cup and that Mertersacker is a better defender and would play over him?

We saw how that panned out.

No mind Toba all the thing wey e talk na the opposite dey happen

Fabrepass!!! Omo oro!! Thank you for saving my rotten GW maybe I for don dey page 3 by now

Who saw Alaba's golazo? Abi na only me? Has he ever scored an ordinary goal sef

tobiboss: if pep really wants to play that 3,4,3 formation or is
it 3,2,2,3, he'll have to get atleast two more centre backs, because i
remember bayern having only three established centre backs, btw, for
3,4,3 who's gonna be the right wing back if lahm plays midfield with
alaba(i thought he was a left back) and what happens to schwen... and
thiago. In the case of reverting back to 4,1,4,1, he cant play lahm in
midfield because rafinha is injured(i think) so who'd be the right back?
Unless he plans on playing boateng there and hopes badstuber does nt
get injured

We have two and a half CB's to be honest! When you tear your ACL twice you are basically playing on borrowed time i've seen athletes fully recover from one but not two tears though i hope Bads can prove me wrong. We need one CB maybe two if we are going to go on playing with 3 CBs hell we could resign Van Buyten sef

toba: The dream partnership at Bayern Dante, Badstuber will soon
happen. That's how we played against BVB in December 2012 before badi
got injured.

Alaba/Lahm doppelsechs that SportBild predicted used for 1st time
yesterday: Did well. Good for Alaba (who prefers CM), bad for
Schweinsteiger. It was rumoured that PEP wanted Schweinsteiger.
Immediately thiago returns, Muller, Gotze will starting sitting on the
bench to accommodate Ribery, Robben and thiago.

Dream partnership between a Dante who is fast declining and a player who is yet to play a competitive game in nearly two years? Na so you hate the Boa-TANK reach

Schweini is the best DM we have at the moment so Pep would be deceiving himself badly if he doesn't play him when fit

Mueller and Goetze na him get Bayern this season. A fit Goetze would give us 20 goals and 15 assists easy but if Pep doesn't play him its his loss! Guys like Ribery and to a much lesser extent Robben need to start being phased out

raumdeuter: Manolas Bennatia and Godin are being discussed

Maybe instead of Gotze we should have got Hummel from Dortmund

You know Hummels would rather drink peppersoup laced with plenty Ebola than join Bayern especially after we kicked out his Pops

I believe the Bieber boy it is Guardiola I actually don't trust! He has been largely used as an attacking utility player but he is better than that! We have to actively start planning for life after Robbery between this season and the next and from the looks of things the 'ry' is all but gone and we all know how injury prone the 'Robbe' half can be as well. It would be tactical irresponsibility on the part of Guardiola if he doesn't hand Goetze the keys of that attack!

I am at a loss as to why our two most expensive signings of all-time are being used like spare tires. How does a JJC like Bernat with no record of achievement to speak of besides playing for Spain's U-21 start at left-back, left-wing back ahead of Alaba while Super Mario isn't given sufficient time to prove his worth! Its Ludacris tbh

raumdeuter: Manolas Bennatia and Godin are being discussed

Maybe instead of Gotze we should have got Hummel from Dortmund

You know Hummels would rather drink peppersoup laced with plenty Ebola than join Bayern especially after we kicked out his Pops

I believe the Bieber boy it is Guardiola I actually don't trust! He has been largely used as an attacking utility player but he is better than that! I am at a loss as to why our two most expensive signings of all-time are being used like spare tires. How does a JJC like Bernat with no record of achievement to speak of besides playing for Spain's U-21 start at left-back, left-wing back ahead of Alaba while Super Mario isn't given sufficient time to prove his worth! Its Ludacris tbh

Are you talking about Manolas?

Sheeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!

I can't believe I fell for the scam that was Man U's pre-season. Looks like I'm starting this year on the backfoot again