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Katsumoto: Again football is a team sport. Rio has done it for club and country as well but Germany is a much better footballing nation than England and as such, Boateng will win more national trophies than Rio. Forget about trophies for now; Rio and Boateng are not mates. You are a Bayern supporter and probably biased. Apart from Bayern fans, Boateng is not heralded as one of the best defenders in the world; Rio was during his prime.

At what tournament did Rio do it for country? By all means pa mi lerin.

That Germany is a much better footballing nation is besides the point but inadvertently proves all I have been saying all along that EPL and its products are overhyped and overrated! Its not enough to hold pre-conceived notions when evidence and events keeps proving the contrary. Trophies matter that is why competitions are held and it is from performances in these tournaments that form opinion about who is hot and who is not

I have lost count of overhyped EPL players who were heralded as the best in the World not in this life was Ferdinand World class. Till lately EPL fans and analysts in general would tell you Evra and Ashley Cole are better than Lahm and only the enlightened few would dare challenge such notion this is part of what we are saying. The way 'world class' gets loosely thrown around you begin to wonder if the meaning is not lost in the crowd

Katsumoto: A-40

Football is a team sport. So there are times when great players don't get to win and useless players get to win. Djimi Traore has a ECL medal while Ronaldo has none. Boateng, whom I like, has won more global titles than Rio but that doesn't make Boateng better than Rio.

Who are these useless players? These things even out at the end of the day. Djimi Traore won a CL medal and vanished from the face of the earth the next season.

Ronaldo De Lima scored over 60 goals for his country was the World Cup all-time highest scorer till recently and also has a World Cup and Golden Ball to his name. I think your comparison is a stretch

Boa-TANK is better than Rio he has proven this for club and country already! Forget the old cliche and urban legend the English press and fans stay trying to gas themselves and players. They are painfully average and this has been exposed too many times before in International football

barackohandso: Good! As relative as the word might mean in a given context, what criterion are you using as your basis for this comparison, trophies? Cos ferdinand has got a whole lot of them. At his age and current form, Boateng will do better, but not until. If Boateng retires today, do you A40 consider him a bayern legend? Same goes for Rio. Haba! Give honor na

At club level there is nothing Rio has won that Boa-TANK has not won. At International level the gulf gets even wider! When we add Boa-TANK's ability to rise up to the challenge in big games you can see that it is a mismatch comparing him to amugbo

If a player that helped his club win the UCL and his country win a World Cup is not a legend then who is a legend? Chale its not till you play for 1000 years at a club before you become a legend. Obviously at Bayern you need more than a few league titles to call yourself a legend but for a 25 year old Boateng's achievements no be sere kambia

PietroRico: to say your level of delusion is mind blowing is a gross understatement.

The funniest part of it all is that he actually thinks he's making sense.
C'est dommage, really.

Old shameless ram.

Is that your defense? Pathetic!

I would chastise you till you are cleansed of your demonic ways you deviant!

Save your pity for your sef and your old, shameless folks who are the rams Ombatse go soon slaughter. Bilewu

SIRcumalot: @A40
Ferdinand can't be less than Pure Class to play a major part in the CB pairing that lasted so long and won Utd so many titles. Sure it easy to look at Rio at his twilight and rubbish his achievement but before you forget SAF broke the Transfer price for Defenders for this guy.

A CB pairing where he was outshone by Vidic? Forget the hype Rio leeched on the brilliance of his teammates!

Dude is 36 played in a couple of World Cups n Euros and did zilch!

PSG also broke the transfer price record for David Luiz. Lescott cost the same amount Robben cost us and Adam Lallana cost more than Schuerrle I don't judge a player by the transfer fee slammed on them

SIRcumalot: We'll see if our relevant Boateng in the next few years.
Ron Vlaar is one of the best defenders of this world cup I think he stopped Messi too why aren't people comparing him to Thiago Silva already ?

Ron Vlaar? Lol dude plays for freaking Aston Villa. Come on bruh how can you compare him to the Boa-TANK who has won everything at club level as well?

PietroRico: lool.
So this ram knows the meaning of tired lines.

Winking phaggot that u've been calling your dad for the past few months isn't one, right? Lol.


Ur master is here again btw, time to get down to whhat u know how to do best- licking this but.tt like the gay bastard that you are.

You are a winking phaggot! You actually winked at a ninja you didn't know from Adam so I am positive you are a phaggot. Abi you wan deny am? Beechmade homoerotic heaux like you

Your 'shameless, old, ram' nonsense is a misnomer for A-40 and a more apt description of your parents who are probably somewhere drowning in their own filth

Idle phuck tracking the movement of other men from thread to thread. Who would save this last son of Sodom?

SIRcumalot: Where was your tank during the Assraping at the arena ?
I agree Boateng his the flavour of the month hopefully he milks all the attention at get more money but he hasn't reached Ferdinand Prime

That game was lost purely on Pep's rubbish tactics! You saw how Ronaldo got destroyed by the Boa-TANK at the World Cup and how Robben turned Ramos and Casillas to the subject of endless internet jokes and memes

English players largely leech off the brilliance of their international teammates in the league little wonder they get horribly exposed in International tournaments. Ferdinand for all his hype has failed to light up any major tournament at any stage of his career even in his so-called prime and we can say that for just about 95% of other English talent. They will not win anything anytime soon unless fans stop hyping these average Joes to the high heavens

PietroRico: that's because you really are a ram, u are old and shameless.
It's as simple as that.

Bleh! The same tired lines again!

The adofuro is exhibiting mental fatigue as usual

Shameless, old, ram describes the people that brought you to this world to a T

pkasso: So because Boateng plays well in finals we should overlook his flaws and weaknesses? You keep going on about how well Boateng plays in finals but you seem(or chose) to forget it was his fatal error that allowed Drogba to head home in the UCL final of 2011.Drogba should have never beaten him to that ball.

What fatal error? Where was Van Buyten in that play? Drogba's aerial prowess is well known and few defenders can stop him when he is on song but even at that you are the first person I would hear blame Boateng for that goal

PietroRico: *yawns
More and more ramblings of trash from the old shameless ram.

Pa nu e de! We can see the s€men and fecal matter oozing out. This is the 3rd time you are repeating the same words. Drag-queen oshi! The two bit simpleton's brain is on a loop and out of oxygen like his morbidly obese puta momma at the gym

barackohandso: You should as well know that "that a player won the WC shouldn't bring comparison with every other legendary player" like you guys are doing since Germany won the mundial. Obviously boateng is better ATM but Rio in his prime was the best in the business. Some comparisons shouldn't be made!

Legendary player? Ooh like Legend Extra Stout.

Awe, I hope you realize the word 'legend' in a football context is relative. Eg to a Southampton fan Matt Le Tissier is a legend to a Liverpool fan Robbie Fowler is god and to a Man U fan Rio Ferdinand might be a legend

I have seen crazy comparisons in my Nairaland lifetime so I am not suprised. People argued Evra and Ashley Cole were better than Phillip Lahm not too long ago even more recently others swore Rooney was better than Müller. How about Joe Cole is better than Schweinsteiger? You ought to know by now that A-40 does not follow general opinion and more often than not time usually winds up vindicating my stance

Rio best in what business? Maybe igbo-smoking business sha

Rosberg wins the German GP and caps a memorable week in his life one I'm sure he would not forget anytime soon

I truly am suprised Hamilton didn't pass Bottas!! Impressive work from the Finn though Hamilton pushed those tires too hard in the end. Glad my boy Vettel could finish 4th its been a tedious season for him

I wish a ninja would come and tell me how competitive this year's F1 title race is. Loool its like the others are driving shop trolleys out there! How can you be 2-3 seconds faster than other cars at this stage of the race?

Let's see if Hamilton can catch Rosberg it looks doable

PietroRico: loool.
A ram sounds pained
If u like post a million lines of utter trash from now till Jesus comes.
I've made my point .
Old Shameless ram.

O.Y.O is your case. The scorned, sword-swallowing maricon is despondent because nobody has responded to his winking advances. What a leper

Better change your phaggot ways before it lands you in doom! Eediotic malignant jizzwallet

barackohandso: Lwkmd dayokanu and A40 though . Boateng now seem like the best thing after sliced bread

But Boa-TANK is a boss! How can anyone compare amugbo Ferdinand to him after watching him beast at this World Cup especially at the Final where he owned your Messi and Argentina at large! I know some players are destined to be underrated but occasionally credit should be given where its due

PietroRico: I see this trematode has fully resumed his shameless 'sidekick' duty.

Useless akpan of a human being!!
Where's your shame?
When dk trolls, he at least does it with some sense.
All u do is follow him around to lick his but.tt
U don't know how phoolish it makes u look.

Shameless ram.

The obsessed winking phaggot is here again! May Osanobua punish your lineage with epilepsy and afflict that eye you use to wink at other men with guineaworm. So after chasing El Guapo from thread to thread you are here chasing A-40 again. Did Ferdinand put the puta that raised you in a family way abi wetin concern this !mbecile with my post?

Next time you mention my name out your canker-sores filled mouth I would flog the demon of phaggotry out of you you jizz-swallowing douchebag! Direct your homoerotic cravings to your fellow Man U fans! C0ck sucking son of an animashaun

Stephenson to the Hornets is a big deal and maybe knocks out Indy from the list of ECF contenders. Huge huge loss on both sides of the floor! He was sort of an auxiliary PG which makes it even worse cos they are now stuck with George Hill

Ferdinand ko Marcos ni! Shey na who smoke igbo pass be the argument for here? Ferdinand is another overhyped average joe from a long list of average joes to come out from the EPL and British Isles. Rooney was adjudged better than Müller not too long ago! Thank God for major international tournaments that keep exposing these frauds, hype can only get you so far at some point you have to enter the pitch and show n prove

48 years and counting

pkasso: At least i'm not the only one who thinks this way.Have a read. .

http://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2014/6/11/5798432/jerome-boateng-bayern-munich-2013-2014-season-review

Which kain tank be Boateng? Na armour tank abi na septic tank? No prizes for getting the answer.

So what part of this article suggests Boa-TANK is as horrible as you are trying to insinuate? I wonder if this same person after the World Cup would come there and revise his previous statements

Armor Tank leading Bayern and Germany to a shitload of titles! About 9 as at my last count

coded01: Which consistency?


The last time the Germans won a World Cup was 24 years ago... --- Consistency my...

I'd like to believe you are learned and understand what Consistency means. A team that gets to 4 consecutive World Cup semis (a feat never achieved before) is the epitome of consistency

coded01: Mr. knowfootball, are you referring to West germany from the 60s or Germany? --- For your own information, this is the first World Cup trophy that a united called Germany won since it's Reunification on the 3rd of October, 1990...


How many World Cup did West Germany win? = 3 --- 1954 (20 years after) 1974 (16 years after) West Germany now Germany 1990 (24 years after) 2014

I'm referring to both after all they are one and the same country and the records/achievements then count now. Don't be smarter than yourself

coded01: As for your every 8 years they got to the final myth! The last time Germany played in the finals was 12 years ago against Brazil, before that, it was another 12 years ago & on & on...

I said Major Tournaments not just the FIFA World Cup I want to believe you can read

coded01: Please, get your facts right! 8 years my... --- Please don't bring in Uefa Competitions, it is strictly World Cup...

[/quote]My facts are right! And I have every reason to bring in UEFA competitions as it is an International competition as well and a major one too

pkasso: Haven't we seen this before? At the start of last season Dante was a bit out of shape and that allowed Boateng to step up.I was impressed and was beginning to have second thoughts about him.Alas it was a false dawn,approaching winter break Mr Alago returned to his former self.5tupid fouls, silly sending-offs,losing concentration.A leopard never changes its spots.Boateng might put in a good show every now and then(heck even Senderos has his good days) but deep down he is still that wack CB.

You can moan and groan till the apocalypse but Boa-TANK is here to stay

dayokanu: Is there any doubt about the bold? Mertersacker has been shamed out of the NT defence He has been given the role of cheerleader. If he had any self worth he would have retired

Boateng-Hummels partnership conceded 0 goals at the world cup playing against top nations like France Argentina and Brazil.

All Boateng doubters and haters have been shut up. All the face saving excuses doesnt cut again. Especially the comparison with sideshow bob jester David Playstation Luiz who cost his team at least 5 goals in the world cup.

Unless there is an injury in defence, Jogi Low knows Boateng-Hummels partnership is the truth

Lahms absence in the NT would really affect our play.

From the first game I saw him Stuttgart vs Man Utd in 3003 I knew he was destined for greatness his calm intelligent play
we would miss his sliding tackles, overlapping runs, quiet leadership, numerous assists and versatility of the "little Giant"

See as he dey battle giant Jan Koller in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCDJQUWJN8

Lothar played for the National Team till he was 39 so I'm at a loss as to why Lahm is retiring so quickly methinks Lahm should at least wait till a decent and potential full-time backup has been found

pkasso: No need to worry Boateng would fit just right in at RB.That has always been the best place for him anyway.There are good RBs in the BuLi.Tony Jantschke and Sebastian Jung are decent fullbacks.Oliver Sorg is also another option as he is strong and versatile.But i don't think they are ready yet.

Boateng can do a job at RB because he is versatile but his strength is at CB! Playing him at the 2 short-changes us going forward because he is not so offensive but don't allow your bad belle cover your mouth from speaking the truth. Hummels and Boa-TANK is the #1 CB pairing

Sorg is rubbish! Plus he is more LB than RB, Isn't he on the same team with Ginter? If at his age he isn't even close to cracking the national team then he is not remotely good enough

dayokanu: Lahm retirement came as a shock

He still has a good 5 yrs in him and at the National team no good Right back is in the horizon

Well good news from a Bayern perspective

I hope Robbery can also follow suit with their international retirement

Defenders age better than forward players I'm not happy that he has retired so soon especially with no capable right back right now (Boateng is much better at CB) Mustafi na no go area

coded01: Honestly, A40 you are biased no doubt, the Pep you & dayo defend against Toba anytime he disagrees with Pep's style...

I dey read comments oh, say I quiet no mean say I no know u oh...

Because your team failed to step up & play football, they were instead demolished & to think because of the team's record loss, you blame it on Pep is just as mean as saying Bayern achieved these records below without him...

Biased? I'm not the one that thinks Guardiola won Germany the World Cup.

I used to defend Guardiola till he started taking the piss and playing Lahm at DM even while Schweinsteiger and Martinez were fit! Playing with a suicidal highline and resorting to tactics that made Bayern unrecognizable from the previous all-conquering one!

Failed to step up? Anyone with functional eyes can see with the way Germany and Bayern players played at the just concluded World Cup that Guardiola's tactics were to blame! We saw how Robben destroyed Ramos and Casillas how Müller and Götze destroyed Pepe, Coentrao and Marcelo. Even Kroos that was toothless over both legs vs Madrid became Zidane vs both Portugal and Brazil

coded01: Bayern's records:

(1) Bayern have won the Bundesliga title with a record seven games to spare. The previous record was the six games left that Bayern won the title with last year.

(2) Bayern have won their last 10 away matches in the league. The old record was nine - again, set by them last season.

(3) Bayern Munich have won their last 19 games - a Bundesliga record. The previous record was 15, set by Bayern in 2005.
Bayern's 2013-14 Bundesliga record

(4) They have scored two goals or more in each of their last 19 wins - also a league record.
(5) This is Bayern Munich's 24th German (and West German) title, another record --- Pep's 1st season in charge.

(6) Bayern won 29 matches in the Bundesliga last season. The record is 29, set by them last year. Equaled a record in his 1st Season.

(7) Bayern Munich clinched the earliest league title in Bundesliga history. They took until 6 April to do it last year - the previous record.

(8.) Bayern's 27-game unbeaten run to start a Bundesliga season is also a record. Bayer Leverkusen's 24 at the start of 2009-10 was the old landmark.

(9) Bayern manager Pep Guardiola, appointed in the summer, has not lost in his first 27 matches in the Bundesliga. Kaiserslautern's Karl-Heinz Feldkamp (1978-79) had the old record with 14.

(10) Bayern Munich have not lost in 52 Bundesliga matches, a run going back to October 2012. Hamburg had the old record of 36 games unbeaten in 1982 and 1983.

(11) Games that shaped Bayern's season:
19 October 2013: Bayern 4-1 Mainz Having been held at Bayer Leverkusen the previous league game, Pep Guardiola's side came roaring back to crush Mainz. Little did their title rivals know at the time that this would be the start of a 19-match winning run that would catapult them to the title.

(12) 2 November 2013: Hoffenheim 1-2 Bayern: Bayern arrived at the Rhein-Neckar Arena trailing leaders Borussia Dortmund by two points in the table. They came from behind to win 2-1 to go one point clear. Bayern have stayed top ever since.


If anyone I mean anybody says Pep is no good.

--- You know one thing is sure, you don't appreciate good thing...


Honestly, who does all that in his 1st Season...

Meh! Between Dortmund being decimated by injuries and the sheer quality of this Bayern team even Felix Magath would have accomplished such feats! You think he was brought to dominate the league? Magath, Schaaf, Slomka woulda done that with this team

Pep has not yet delivered and I am not as happy as I was when he arrived

dmcdad: Abeg you watch him unveiling?

You watch am? Where did he say Germany won the World Cup because of Guardiola

www.fifa.com/world-match-centre/nationalleagues/nationalleague=spain-liga-2000000037/news/newsid/240/649/2/index.html

I think Lahm is retiring too soon. At least play one more Euros! I hope they can convince him to change his mind

Mustafi at Right Back? Lololololol

dmcdad: At least Toni Kroos said it himself during his unveiling. He made it clear it was Pep's football that helped them to win.

So at the end of the day, their winning dey tied to Barcelona.

You mean Kroos said Pep's football helped Germany win the World Cup? Cheii! If you must lie at least get paid for it nau

coded01: But did they even "smell" the Final? NO-NO-NO... --- If not for Pep Guardiola! Barca's connection...


As for the person that said Mourinho invented 4-3-3, i guess we need to do medical check-up for everyone that post on here...

The same connection that handed Madrid its first win in Munich in its history! Our worst ever defeat at home. I'm starting to suspect Guardiola is a mole planted to destroy Bayern

Germany is known for consistency in major tournaments. You are obviously new to football hence your Guardiola megedefegede but I have news for you Mr Johnny come lately that since 1966 Germany has not gone 8 years without playing a Final of any major tournament

coded01: Hater why na?


Something that's glaring for everyone to see... --- Pep was influential to Germany success @ the World Cup. --- Barcelona is being represented with Success everywhere...

Someone tells you the simple truth and you call them a hater?

Stop telling lies! What is glaring and what part of Germany's success mirrors the Barcelona or Guardiola style of play? Didn't Germany play this same way at the 2010 World Cup and 2012 Euros?

Why do you people like to reap where you did not sow? That is how someone on the Chelsea thread said Mourinho invented 4-3-3. Ignorance is truly bliss

toba: Kroos to RealMadrid official, 6yr contract. Still think Bayern were crazy to give Ribery €12m until he's 34 but offer TKroos only €7m in his 20s

Ribery has earned his stripes! He stayed at Bayern when it was not fashionable to do so and didn't whine about money either. Ribery has done more for Bayern than Kroos ever will. €7m or €8m is fair compensation for him which is around the amount Neuer, Robben, Alaba and even Müller are earning and he is not more valuable than them. He wanted a big pay day and he's gotten it thankfully not at Bayern as it is clear from his comments while he was here and since he left that he doesn't give a shyte about the club

pkasso: Some people are still living in denial sha.I know how A40 is always going on about stats and figures so i've decided to give the Whoscored.com treatment.And who comes out top? Luiz. If Boateng supposedly had a 'better' world cup than David Luiz, how come he has a lower rating on Whoscored.com or are the guys at Opta also lying?
David Luiz:
vs Croatia -7.22
vs Mexico - 7.42
vs Cameroon - 8.28
vs Chile - 8.04
vs Colombia - 8.13
vs Germany - 6.73
vs Netherlands - 5.62
FINAL RATING:7.35.

Jerome Boateng:
vs Portugal - 7.71
vs Ghana (45) - 6.28
vs USA - 6.85
vs Algeria - 7.47
vs France - 7.36
vs Brazil - 6.6
vs Argentina - 7.92
FINAL RATING:7.18
It might also interest you to know that of all Germany defenders that started at least 6 matches, Jerome Boateng had the lowest rating.Hummels - 7.76,Lahm - 7.36,Howedes -7.24,Boateng -7.18.Even the number-crunchers at Squakwa have Luiz ahead of Boateng on their list.I've not seen the full Castrol Index list but i'm pretty sure Luiz ranks above Boateng.'Nuff said!

Its not enough to just paste stats without using them in the right context!

For starters Boateng was played out of position for the first 3 games!! He also came out at half-time for one of them! Secondly Luiz had 2 goals and 1 assist which obviously boosted his ratings significantly. It is a shame that despite scoring twice and providing an assist he is only rated at .18 higher than a defender played out of position and scoring no goals nor providing an assist! Luiz failed at his primary assignment which is why he was rated as lowly as 5.62 in a game! 5 point phucking 62

Pataki: Naijababe, the only language that useless Arindin-40 understands is curse.

I know the environment he grew up. You know those kind of homes where parents greet their children with solidified epes.....like......atòlé, adato kiri adugbo, highly dysfunctional homes. Little wonder the Arindicious fellow calls himself A-40.

Don't worry my sis, all na playful banter just to put the retardeenic boy-boy in his place.

Once proper footie starts by next month, yarns go yato.

You are close to 40 and you don't even know who sired you yet you are here talking about dysfunctional environments. Irony

Even from your eediotic name we can safely infer you were denied love and attention as a child and this has metamorphosed into the insecure, bitter overgrown baby you have become. Ozwor

Pataki: Omo a'lai leko ni e! When I was busy replying your internet father, did I ask for your attention?

Akpan-40, go to your thread. Attention seeking gerbil.

You invited trouble and woe upon your household when you made reference to your tormentor-in-chief! Trouble dey sleep yanga go wake am

When I'm done with you you would relapse into your usual demented state. Ignorant, irritating, noise-making douchegoblin