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(L). From kingschild123 to EconElectronics and now AutosBay. Shey na only u waka come?

ChukwuCantDie:
....Didnt read..I just wanted to ask why you are spending your life away defending a business you have no connect to that is owned by Europeans who see you as inferior, invaded your land, tried to kill everyone in your land, a people that have no respect for you or any of your people..a people that have no connect whatsoever with Africa why? Are you sick in the head?

Nigerians are so emotional and will always shy away from the truth, that is what is killing us in this country. So because DSTV is not a Nigerian company then we must sleigh them? When HITV was available we all knew the terrible service they offered, we still patronized them until they folded up... Is that dstv's fault? Dude, Nigerian or not, u can't shy away from the truth. It is left for us to work hard and create a service that will be in the same standard to that foreign company that we so much hate. Until then, DSTV will still rule. Of u can't afford DSTV premium then pay for family. If u still want afford family then buy gotv, it is still owned by multichoice. If u can't afford neither then work harder. Or go and hang urself. From what u wrote it is very obvious who is sick in the head here.

mikepeace:
U are wrong, why are they charging pay as u view in south Africa and can not do the same here?

I pay N13,450 monthly and i normally watch Tv on weekends, so it is a good idea to charge us pay as we view just like south Africans!

Does daarsat and other cable tvs charge with pay as u view? Let those ones do it first before attacking DSTV. Moreover I don't even see any problem here, multichoice is a private company, if u feel their services is too expensive, look elsewhere. Its as simple as that. This is not a basic amenity that the govt subsidies for citizens. Na person wey don chop dey think of cable tv, this is not petrol where people can go on strike when the price is too high.

gencyl:
Nice move, but is DSTV really stopping others to compete with them? i think DSTV is only enjoying the monopoly because it is a common household name that every nigerian has embraced over the years, and every other has been downgraded; and this is because we nigerians are still seeing it as the best so far despite their billings, at times poor signals, incomplete channels etc. But if there are other satelites that thinks they can really compete with them, they should and we nigerians will also make the choice and change to it.

DSTV are not stopping any other companies from the cable tv market. Cable tv is not cheap anywhere in the world. U choose the one u can afford, if u want pvr, then u pay for it. U can't afford it, but gotv. Its as simple as that.

firstolalekan:
Nice development.
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Let's wait and see how long it will take before any bill is passed and implemented. When it comes to making laws that will benefit the common man, we know how our reps and senators behave.
But, it didn't take them anytime to approve the borrowing of ONE BILLION DOLLARS proposed by the clown to FIGHT the bokohaRAMS that they're currently negotiating PEACE with.
Meanwhile, I don't see DSTV doing any monopoly here. Our own indigenous providers too are very greedy!
How much is Dasat subscription?
How much is Startimes subscription?
How much is Hitv subscription?

U just said what's on my mind. Multichoice has subscription of 1,500 and they have they have the one for N11,000. It is left for consumers to choose the one they can afford. They have decoders of N7,000 and they have one for N65,000. Cable tv don't come cheap even in advanced countries, it all depends on quality of service and programmes. U can't expect to watch quality programmes in HD and pay peanuts. LG has LED TV of N25,000 and they also have TV of 3 million naira.

Let them bring the competition, it is good for cosumers. We all know what happened to HITV. DSTV is still the most complete cable tv we have in Nigeria, so I don't see the reason to blame them for improving their services for additional fees.

honourhim:
Its really very annoying to see churches doing this. Sometimes I ask myself whether people in those churches are fools. Don't they know they are disturbing the peace of others?

Churches should just keep their activity in a way it will not disturb outsiders.

May be people should begin to call the police to intervene.

U are so on point. There are thousands of religions in the world, I have been to a few places and I can tell u it is never done like this. The Hindus, Buddhist, etc don't use their religion to disturb others, they say their prayers without The next person hearing then. Why then are Christians, especially in Nigeria different? The Moslems is even fairer because their own is early in the morning for a few minutes and it is not that loud. Chritisns is every night when someone is trying to sleep.

In the U.S. the first thing a cop asks u when stopeed are 'licence and registration please'.

Biggyd2:
;They won't do anything about it because, many of their voters come from there and they don't want many of the hypocrites in those religious organisations to 'deal' with them. Remember that in Lagos, for instance, BRF brought out a law against noise pollution. I heard he used it at the earlier stage. If the law is still in enforce, how come the noise from these places are on the increase in that State?

For the Christians, they are en joined in the Bible to obey constituted authority. Abi, they have a different interpretation? Even universally, one's right stops where that of another begins. Tomorrow this same people would come and talk rubbish about Boko haram. Is this not a milder form of religious intolerance? Or, are we to believe that God hearing our prayers depends on how much we scream into the microphone all in the name of prayer? Sadly, after all the screaming, you will cringe at how badly some of these people behaviour in public.

OP, i am waiting for the first call from a mosque in my area, which will be in a few minutes and then followed by about 3 other mosques. After them will be the christian with another microphone to do the early morning preaching to complete the pack. And of course there goes your sleep! Is it a competition to see who wins God over? The only saving grace na like now wey de light pipo don show who be oga.lol. So, when there is no light we have some respite. My question is whether God will not hear them during this period when PHCN decide to perform?

I will also advocate that everybody, christian, moslem and any other religion should practice the use of microphone to propagate their religion, at anytime of the day, especially early in the morning! The louder, the better!Let us all enjoy the noise from each others religion. . The salvation of this country will come from the super cleansing of our religious organisations and the hearts of their members.

For the time being, OP, invest in some ear plugs to keep your ears safe and your sanity intact, at least!

Bros, if na sango or amadioha person dey worship every night like that with loud microphone I'm sure they neighborhood will not sleep. In fact it won't take long for them to have a meeting on how to put an end to it. Why then are Christians not putting others into consideration.

GAZZUZZ:
If can't beat them join them.

Join them ke? Even God created day and night, He knows we are supposed to sleep at night so we can get revitalised For the next day.

First of all, before people start attacking me, I am a christian and I'm not here to discriminate anybody. For a long time now I hardly sleep at night because of one prayer or the other from the different churches in my neighbourhood. Yes, there are about 11 churches in my street alone. .

Anyway, there is this particular church that normally have program every night (seriously every night) and they have this really loud microphone. My sleep is so much dosturbed that I hardly get 2 hours of sleep because of their noise,. U can imagine when u are trying to sleep and what u keep hearing is DIE DIE DEI DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE from ur sleep. Its like everything about that church is DIE DIE DIE. Tell me how can someone sleep. I have thought about making a complaint to the community or local govt, but I'm afraid they might call me a sadist. But truth be told, this shouldn't be happening in a residential area. I thought we are battling a spiritual battle, so why can't they pray silently, or shout they want without using microphone (I'm sure everyone inside the church will hear even if they don't use microphone). Most of the people in that church don't have a work they are going in the morning so why disturb those that have work?

Everyone has a freedom of religion, be it christian, Islam, traditional or even occult. So my question is this, let's say I am a traditionist, and every night me and my occult crew do our things and make noise every night with loud microphone worshipping our idols doing ERIWO YAAAA. AYA GBO, AYA TO, every night... What will people say? I'm sure they would call the police to get me arrested. The irony here is white men brought religion into this country, but in their country u will never find churches disturbing the peace of neighbours in the night. So how come na we come carry am for head.? If u try this in the UK or the U.S. the neighbours would call the police and the church will be shut down if they don't take to correction.

So I am calling the religion experts. What do u think about this. Should I keep suffering and get woken up every night by sound of DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE, or what advice would u give me? Is it right for churches to disturb the peace of a neighbouhood? If that was a shrine what would u guys say?

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vn4urIqtoA

[size=15pt]Hyundai Grand i10 Review [/size]

If this is the same thing as the one sold in Nigeria then its a definite GO. Bluetooth, usb, aux jack, rear ac vent, steering controls, dedicated buttons for phone.. I mean this is full option. But I doubt if the one sold here will come with these options, we normally get the trimmed down models.

There are people looking for the manual of that accord. Sell it and buy an automatic.

buskie13:
noted....but for de past decade....it has been on de French's side.....maybe why Jay Jay didn't win it was because he was unsuccessful at club level...

Because in the last decade French speaking nations have produced better players than the English speaking competitors. Should we then ignore a deserving player and give it to an undeserved player? The same way lots of Nigerians were saying Mikel should have won the African player of the year 2013 when it was very very obvious Yaya Toure is a better deserving player.

2011-2013: Yaya Toure
2010: Samuel Eto'o against Asamoah Gyan
2009: Didier Drogba against Samuel Eto'o
2008: Emmanuel Adebayor against Aboutrika
2007: Frederick kanoute against Michael Esssien
2006: Didier Drogba against Samuel Eto'o
2005: Samuel Eto'o against Didier Drogba
2004: Samuel Eto'o against Didier Drogba
2003: Didier Drogba against Jay Jay Okocha

It is very obvious French speaking nations have produced better players in the last decade. Between 1992 and 1999, this award was won by only English speaking players (except Mustapha Hadji who won it in 1998) but nobody said it was partiality.

buskie13:
this is where i stand to be corrected....but the French speaking nations have a better chance of clinching de title

Because French speaking nations have produced better players than english speaking nations. The Samuel etoos, Didier drogba, Freddie kanoute, Patrick mboma, etc . don't forget George weah, rashidi yekini, kanu nwankwo, abedi pele, Victor ikpeba were from english speaking countries so what are we saying?

otipoju:
That is exactly my point, how many central midfielders currently in Madrid are as gifted as he is. None.
Things he did at Bolton were exceptional but ifhe did them at Madrid, in an el classic match, he would be the most expensive player in the world and will win player of the world for five years straight.


My point is that okocha had no such ambition early in his career. If he had he would have strolled into any top club in the world.

Football is not just a game of skills, if it is then Okocha would have been the greatest player ever. Anybody remember Denilson of Brazil? Football is more of a team game than just raw skills. This is the reason why players like David Beckham and Paul Scholes (2 players who cannot dribble one player one on one) are highly rated than Okocha who can dribble the whole team. David Beckham has no dribbling skills, but there are 10 more players he can pass the ball to when he has the ball.. that is what makes him a better player. Ability to make the right decision at the right time to help his team.

ROSSIKE:
What sort of stup.id question is that?



Load of tosh. How can you say he only 'got serious' when he played at Bolton with a low goal tally, but when he was at Fenebahche where he scored a goal every two games, he was not serious? That makes zero sense. As for saying he played some of his best games for Bolton, how many of his Fenebahce or Eintracht Frankfurt games did you watch? This is why I say some of you only know a player if he plays in EPL or La Liga. That is why you think nothing happened in Jay Jay's career until he went to Bolton. In any case, it's kinda hard for an attacking midfielder of whatever quality to be banging in goals playing for a lowly club like Bolton in the EPL!! If he was playing alongside players of his quality he would have scored and created far more goals.

Dude, the Turkish league was and is still a very lowly rated league compared to Spain, England, Germany, Italy and even France. Okocha was playing a 'show off' kind of game when he was at Fernabache. When he came to Bolton he became more matured and played with his teammates more often than he ever did, but it was already too late. I still repeat if Okocha was that good big clubs would have come for him.

LORDI:
Kanu=igbo,okocha=igbo,,,I wonder what nigeria football will be without the igbos contributions.

Do u have to bring tribalism into this? Yekini= Yoruba, Mutiu adepoju= Yoruba, Tijani babangida = Hausa. It is a team game.

ROSSIKE:
Okocha was HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. 32 goals in 60 games for Fenebahche. What other effectiveness do you want? Some of you we know only began watching football with EPL, which is why you are CLUELESS about how EFFECTIVE Okocha was in his prime. He was VERY SKILFULL AND VERY EFFECTIVE. When he moved to PSG, his coach, an absolute dunce, played him in all sorts of funny positions eg on the wings. This led to a drop in his goal tally. The minute he left for Bolton and was returned to his traditional attacking midfield role, the goals began flowing again. So Okocha was VERY EFFECTIVE.

Fernabache? Is that a club in Turkey? Anyway I dont understand what u meant by the goals started flowing when he went to BOLTON. He scored 14 goals in 106 appearances for BOLTON. I know his job was not to score goals but how many did he really create? And 14 goals in 106 appearances is not good enough for an attacking midfielder. Also don't forget Okocha played some of the best games of his career when he joined bolton, he became more serious but then it was too late as age had caught up with him. If he had been more serious in his youth he would definitely have played for the bigger clubs.

MrPresident1:
Effectiveness is relative. Jay jay's job wasn't to score goals, his duty was to marshal the midfield, and provide critical supplies to the attackers, he did his job beautifully well. One of the best midfielders the world has ever known.

His job wasn't to score goals, but his goals were well needed

Dont be deceived bro. As a Nigerian it is normal to add sentiments, but let's be real, Jay jay was great but did he really do his job well in the midfield? Primarily the first thing that comes to Jay jay's mind when he gets the ball is 'SHOW OFF'. Passing the ball is secondary. As a deep playmaker, sometimes his teammates make the run but Okocha was busy showing off his skills. Yes he got amazing skills no doubt, but so was denilson of Brazil. This is the main reason big clubs never came for him, they saw him as an unserious player, not very effective . Very good to get the crowd excited, but terrible in helping his team get a result.

sukkot:
i think this will be a fair and accurate accolade for jayjay >> THE MOST EXCITING AND SKILLFULL PLAYER TO WATCH, TO EVER COME OUT OF AFRICA

notice i said the most exciting and not the most effective CASE CLOSED

Very correct. The most exciting player to watch out of Africa, but definitely not The most effective, and definitely not the most exciting to watch in the rest of the world. Ronaldinho, messi, ronaldo, Roberto baggio, rivaldo, etc are also exciting to watch but they surpass Okocha because they are also effective.

IyfeNamikaze:
how would you rate Alan shearer? overhyped or underrated?

Shearer was not overhyped, neither was he underrated. He was just shearer and his 34 goals helped Blackburn rovers win the premier league in 1995. Till date he is still the premier league all time top scorer. He helped Newcastle United and they came very close to winning the premier league. His records speak for himself, he was never overrated.

lurdabdaniels:
Guys let me add to this Okocha sees football as business then fun too so he was not bothered about his carer that was why he went to Turkey when players are going to real,barca,manu,munich, arsenal and so on but he went to a free tax country just because of money.

Lol, very very funny. Abeg make I ask u, can a player go to barca, real Madrid or Manchester United on their own without the clubs showing interest and subsequently making a bid? Look at the way u put it as if those clubs made a move for Okocha but he chose to go to Turkey. Lets stop being too sentimental, if he was that good those clubs will break the bank to sign him.

Okocha was a great player, no disputing that. But he was never in the league of George weah, abedi pele, kanu nwankwo, Samuel etoo, Didier drogba, or even Victor ikpeba and Freddie kanoute. These are players that played at the highest level and won things for their teams. Okocha is still probably one of the best dribblers the world have seen, but he was more of a show off than actually helping his team to glory. I know some will say Cristiano ronaldo also shows off, but cr7 has his goals and honors to back that up.

Okocha was seen as the world's biggest teams as an unserious player, that is why no big team came for him. The humiliation of Oliver Khan and 3 defenders was absolutely unnecessary. Trust me if he was that good then the biggest teams would break the bank to sign him. Okocha only got serious in his twilight age when he joined bolton, but then it was already too late. Great player no doubt, but still not in the league of kanu nwankwo.

Both of them are overrated.

ROSSIKE:
Jay Jay Okocha was the man whom the great Brazilian legend, Mario Zagalo, who played alongside Pele, personally ran across the pitch, as Brazil coach, to shine Okocha's shoes, after the maestro's performance against the Samba boys in Abuja in 2003. He said Jay Jay must be a Brazilian, not a Nigerian!

So what are we talking about? Even Messi hasn't received that type of accolade from any of the world's greats.

That is what u call accolade? Seriously? Mario zagalo giving okocha a handshake after a match is what u call accolade? When people like kanu, etoo, drogba, George weah and even Freddie kanoute were winning something tangible with their teams. Well if that is what u call accolade then I guess the truth speaks for itself.

chillex8:
I didn't bother to read your epistle..

I am only replying cos you quoted my post..

NEW over USED/tokunbo any day any time..

I am guaranteed of a problem-fee ride for the next 4 years....


In my family,

Honda 1997, bought brand new (now 330,000miles)- still kicking till date, factory engine.. TrAnsmission is bad now.. But can still be driven

Honda accord 2007 bought brand new (now 113,000 Km) - still kicking till date. (bonet has been opened twice in seven years of ownership).

Honda pilot 2012 bought brand new- (now 4,000 miles) bonnet hasn't been opened since it left honda place..

Toyota prado 2014 bought brand new (now 700miles) - AM certain for the next 10 years, there will be no single mechanical/electrical repairs...

Honda odyssey 2001 bought toks 199,000 miles - under 4 months, engine and transmission was changed. So many other components were changed

Honda accord 1996 American spec bought toks- after 1 year, engine was replaced. Followed by numerous mechanical issues...

Peugoet 505 1989 bought brand new- was sold in 2004 with the factory engine inside...

Mercedes 200 1987 bought brand new, served for years before it was involved in an accident and condemned..

Mercedes 230 vboot padded bought toks in 1998.. Used to travel to the east from lagos. After two years, carburetor started giving issues.. Now condemned..



The kia rio in question has all the basic facilities required in a vehicle.. And it goes for almost the same price as a used rx330..

I will go for the kia rio any day, so long it is NEW...


My humble opinion..

I didn't see any Kia rio in all Brand new cars u listed. U said u bought a brand new 2007 accord and the bonnet has not been opened. That is 7 years now, so if a 7 years old car is still serving u well then what is wrong in buying a used 2007 solid car that was well maintained by the owner. Or did u forget that a tokunbo car was also bought brand new by the initial owner? A brand new Kia rio will not last 5 years and keep its shape, I can bet on that.

This is why it is good to buy a clean title car when buying a used car. The problem nigerians have is they buy salvaged cars. If Mr A bought his 2007 camry for 1.8 million, and Mr B goes to the market to buy his and dealer tells him 2.5 million he will think he's being cheated, and run to buy a salvaged one for 1.8 million. The price of used cars are not constant. It depends on mileage, how clean it is and carfax record. It is good to buy a car with good carfax record regardless of price.

Nothing beats a brand new car, but in case of a new Kia rio and used Lexus rx330, it's the Lexus all the way.

Okocha was a very talented and skillful player, one of the best the world has seen. But he was never taken too seriously because he himself didn't take football too seriously until his twilight years when he joined bolton. Imagine the disgrace of Oliver Khan and 4 defenders when he could have easily scored, he chose to dribble back and forth. Yes he eventually scored but that shows unseriouslness.

Jay jay in his prime chose to entertain than do something positive to help his team win. This is one of the reasons no big club came for him, and this is the reason he wasn't there among African greats like abedi pele, Samuel etoo, George weah, kanu nwankwo. Etc.

otipoju:


Mr man just keep quiet if you can't comprehend and stop making a fool of yourself. Greatness is synonymous with exploits. What are okochas exploits that make him rank among the greatest. Give me hard facts.

Is it not the same Pele that believes that neymar is better than messi and predicted that an african country will win the world cup before 2010.lets leave what Pele thinks and give me concrete arguments

You don't even understand the crux of the matter before running your mouth and attacking me making noise like a machine for grinding pepper.Okochas quality is not in doubt and i have not questioned it in any way.he would be a welcome addition to any topside.

What I have been trying to drum into your senile brain is that he shied away from the path to greatness by having other intrrests that were antithetic to the road less travelled.

For crying out loud we are talking about a player who had the skills and precensce of mind to humiliate Oliver khan and about four defenders in the goal area before deciding to score even though he had the chance. Entertaining but not purposeful. It was late in his career that his game evolved and he was phenomenal at Bolton and by that time age had caught up with him.

Stop trying to claim one arcane knowledge on a subject as simple as simple as a club desiring or being offered a good player by an agent and choosing to sign him after some negotiations as regards his value among other things. Oga go and sit down somewhere if you no get point.

U should already know here on nairaland some people argue without solid facts, their only weapon is to curse. You have made ur points and the reasonable ones here fully understand and agree with u.

buskie13:
mind you....with all de successful African players u listed....can't ur brain decipher they're all French?
Okocha never won African best player because of the presidency of CAF....I guess u know him as a French colony....

I guess Victor ikpeba, rashidi yekini, kanu nwankwo and George weah are also French.

ndidibabe:
Will you keep your dirty mouth shut? So because Mikel plays for Chelsea makes him a better player than Okocha in his days? ''Jay Jay Okocha is so good that they named him twice''- a statement by an English Football commentator. I doubt if there is any present Nigerian Player that can be given such accolade. Comparing a Chelsea Bench warmer to a former Bolton captain is an insult of the highest order.

So good and they named him twice.... Playing for BOLTON WANDERERS. Trust me if he was that good then the world's big clubs would tussle for his signature. Great entertainer though, but not in the league of kanu nwankwo, Samuel etoo, George weah.

darealez:
I do no sh-it sport but can damn stick my nose in 4some race. Unfortunately, I'm beginning to believe 9ja's got real 2plexing down alternate dude who know no sh-it about cars or are d cul road gods' probably off cos d roads are bad?

I can't make sense out of the sh-it u wrote.

chillex8:
The choice is between a 2003 lexus and a 2014 kia rio.

Don't forget my clause. "nothing beats a brand new car"

If it was between a 2003 lexus and a 2003 kia rio, that would be a different story...

My humble opinion...

I like the maturity of our argument tonight

Of course I know it is between a brand new KIA Rio and a 2003 Lexus rx300. Since u still think nothing beats a brand new car, so would u buy a brand new smart fortwo over a 2003 Honda accord just because u want a brand new car?