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Kophschmerzen:
Hey you f***tard the GOP ran that campaign on the Clinton been soft on crime, a mass murderer was just arrested then, and the GOP were hammering on how a Clinton victory will bring about freeing the mass murderer.

The Trump administration is racist as f**k, you can read up on Stephen King, Steve Miller, Jeff sessions and Steve Bannon and stop coming here to spew your toilet standard crap.

You are the brain dead vermin, you toilet seat, coming here to defend an avowed racist running on an overdrive of a Pat Buchanan styled browning of America ideology.

Go get an euthanasia and save humanity, one less brain dead, self loathing, POS to worry about.

Another rant from a delusional rambler! Flip the cript and put Trump in Clinton's position, would you call him racist? If the answer is yes then you have no moral compass and your whole argument is predicated on your delusional belief that racism is okay as long as it comes from somone you agree with........Stay off the propagand and seek true enlightenment!

Abbeybailey:
I started following politics seating beside my father in the late 80s during the final term of The Gipper ( Reagan ) . Seen it all and I can confidently tell you Trump is the worst and the recent Quipannic poll bears that out. Time will tell. Never seen a president with daily controversies in my life. Nov 6 is around the corner and like i said, you and i and tens of millions of other Americans will make our decision then. That's why we have elections to correct any ills.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and you are absolutely right, we can always vote out any perceived ills, just don't be surprised that after November Trump is still sitting as president until 2020 at least. After Trump's victory nothing surprises me about American politics.....lol

Kophschmerzen:
Hey Uncle Thomas f***k off with your orange a** licking, if not that you have exchange your common sense for a bowl of hot meal, you won't be here trying to spin sh1t. Did you witness the Clinton election? If you do and notice the rhetoric of that time. You will understand the reason for toughness on crime and Hillary comments. The fact you even uttered that sh1t is a clear indication, probably you came to America recently or just start getting to know about the politics here

Did I witness the Clinton election? The rhetoric at the time justified labelling black men as monsters? And I'm Uncle Tom? Listen to yourself you vermin, imagine Trump coming out and enacting the same law citing crime statistics, would you label him a racist or not? Your objectivity is clearly lost and you've lost your damn mind my n*gga!

Abbeybailey:
I have guys like you at my job, they lie just like Trump even faced with realities of life. The tape of his conversation about paying Micheal Cohen will be out soon and unappologetical supporter of the vile misogynist sleeping with a hooker and paying her off while Melania was nursing infant baby will dismiss it. It's the pathological lies that the Liar in Chief impose on his cultish followers.

Here we go, do yourself a favor and go back to my initial post and see the part where I mentioned even though I voted for Trump I still maintain my objectivity. Trump is a womnizer, he is no Christian and only cares about money but when you term a person as racist because you don't agree with him then you've successfully handicapped yourself against any meaningful conversation. Unlike what the media would have you belive, not everyone that voted for Trump is uneducated and poor, not everyone that voted for trump is a Republican and not everyone that voted for Trump agrees with all his policies. Yes he's a liar but my vast knowledge of American politics also tells me majority of the past 20 presidents were also pathological liars including Obama, especially when it comes to issues affecting black lives in America! This is my opinion and you are welcomed to yours, all I ask is to maintain your objectivity and not rely soly on what CNN or FOX tells you!

Abbeybailey:
Cut these bull out. Exactly what he said. You can try to whitewash it all you want but Trump is a vile racist and 50% of Americans believe that. There's nothing hideous about his racism. He displays it every opportunity he gets to send a subliminal message to his White Nationalist supporters.

I'm done with you, even in the face of factual evidence against your false statement, you still argue! Your I/Q is obviously below the requirement for simple objectivity so enjoy your ignorance!

Abbeybailey:
When he was coming down the elevator in his Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for the Republican nomination. That was the first message he uttered. The guy is a racist pig and 50% of Americans agreed to that. You can love him all you want but there's no alternate to the truth.

WRONG! Stop making sh*t up! They are sending their rapist as undocumented immigrants is different from All Mexicans are rapist, I thought you were smarter than that!

For your enlightenment check out:

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/aug/08/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-falsely-says-trump-said-all-mexicans-are/

Kophschmerzen:
Go spin ya sh1t to another uninformed niggi, even his own Co writer of the art of the deal, Tony Schwartz thinks he's racist and a POS, what about omorosa?

Mid west raised blood with loads of New York based hommies, all em loathe the drumpf and knows about his racism and as a two bit hustler cornering dirty money.

Dude 80 percent Americans never thought the central park 5 are guilty, go tell your hogwash to some other uneducated brother, after the central park folks have been declared innocent by the judge, the drumpf still keep taking advert on new York Times to say they are guilty. Same way he was adamant on the birtherism and the fact that he have a credible lead that Ob was born in Kenya.

Stop trying to spin horsecrap.

Omarosa the two faced heffer who sold out her own race, that Omarosa? . Moving on, when I said 80% of America felt they were guilty, I'm tlking about the media, majority of whites and even some blacks at the time. It was late 1980s and people believed everything in the newspaper or TV. If Trump is racist then the media must be held to that same standard including the NY Times, yes Trump is definitely ignorant but your racist charge holds no water. Here's the fact, Donald Trump a long time financier of the Democratic party, a longtime beloved part of Hollywood's entertainment industry and a real estate jagguarnaut is all of a sudden racist because he is in the position to wield real power. This is how America works, the real racist are right in front of you but you wouldn't know because you've successfully accepted your position of Chief Sheep. If Trump is racist, what of Hillary? If all you wrote shows that Trump is racist, what then happens to someone who worked with her husband to enact a law that calls black men "SUPER PREDATOR", a law responsible for the high amount of blacks in incarceration from the 1990s upwards. This is the type of bias nonsense that I'm referring to, the liberal controlled media will have you believing Trump is the devil while Hillary is a saint but if you can think objectively for yourself for just a damn minute, you'll see that one of these ignants give a damn about the black race!

Abbeybailey:
The bottom line is that you are wrong. He admitted to blacklisting the black people in Queens NY and he was fined by HUD. Secondly, he started his campaign for President by calling Mexicans rapists, drug dealers and disease carriers. You remember Judge Curiel who was hearing his case of his Fake and Unaccredited Trump University, he told the world the judge who was born in Indiana wouldn't not be fair to him because the judge is of Mexican heritage. Don't forget Birtherism. He pushed that thing to the hilt and even after Obama produced his long form birth certificate from Hawaii, the racist pig still don't believe him. About central park five, he was calling for the death of the five minorities even after they were found not guilty by DNA and being settled with several millions of $ by the city of NY, the vile racist pig was still taking adverts in all NY dailies calling for them to be executed. NFL players started kneeling with Colin Kaperneck and the bigot in Chief went beserk calling them SOB. You are just showing yourself as a house Negro that will support Trump no matter what he does. Ask the only Black in WH ( Omarrossa) who said that Trump is racially insensitive which means he's a damn racist. Many more examples of his racism I can give you. Why do you think 50% of Americans think he's a racist. It's because he's an avowed racist.

Mehn you've got to stay off that liberal propaganda tv stations, it clouds your objectivity. So instead of arguing I'm going to debunk your blabbering with one question: SHOW ME WHERE EXACTLY THAT DONALD TRUMP USED THE WORDS, "Mexicans are Rapists", If you cannot do this then your entire speech is null and void and I declare your argument sentimental crap!

Kophschmerzen:
Bullsh1t Trump is a fxxking racist, DOJ rental discriminatory law suit, central park five saga, birtherism and the New Jersey branch account department brouhaha. Get a book and stop polluting cyberspace with your toilet standard ignorance.

You're pathetic! DoJ rental discrimination from what year? Back in the 70s and 80s, majority of hotels and real estate businesses discriminated against blacks, it took years before anti-discrimination laws were refined and fully enforceable. Central Park 5? 80% of America thought they were guilty because of the way the media covered it, being wrong does not make you racist you dipshit! Try educate yourself my nigga, here's a link to get you started:

https://www.unitedspinal.org/pdf/fair_housing_amendment.pdf

elijahkayode:
Reason
wether you like it or not Trump is delivering on is campaign promises, under him Nato is much more stronger than ever, Iraq is back under sanctions, Europe countries are now following his protocols especially Germany.
If American had police itself in the first place, people with trump mindset wouldn't have existed, the richest country in the world yet its citizens are living on food stamps

Well said, as foreigners we all take advantage of America and once we've made it we send ur money back home and build up assets. When Americans with nowhere to go discover that the country is in 21 Trillion dollars debt and the end is near, we can get out of the country and smile in Nigeria but they are stuck and force to live out their days in fear and poverty. This is why I don't feel too bad for foreigners, as long as you come in with the right papers or get them after, you can be anything you want in the US. It's still one of the greatest countries in the world despite what our friend above wants us to think. Trump is just a manifestation of the frustration of those who feel they have nowhere to go

Abbeybailey:
You sure don't know of what you speak. Growing up in Chicago listening to the likes of Late Jerry Falwell and Pat Buchanan telling Americans about Blacks and Hispanics breeding which is a racist code word. There agenda is trump's agenda. A president that called NFL players kneeling down against injustice SOB while at the same time calling the Nazi marching in Charlottesville good people. No wonder the racists are showing their faces now ailing him . You can support him all you like but over 90% of African Americans voted against him and think of him as racist. Cohen is spilling now to Director Mueller about trump's shenanigans and it's a matter of time these national embarrassment will go away.

You've just said exactly what your propaganda media wants you to say. Let's break this down objectively removing the sentimental crap:

1. He called NFL players kneeling down against injustice SOB, so this makes him racist.
Rebuttal: a) We have white NFL players who kneeled and he did not single out blacks from whites rather he called all of them SOBs.
b) They were kneeling against police brutality but instead of protesting in front of police buildings and courthouses, they chose to
disrespect the American flag and the anthem, basically saying we do not see this country the way everyone else does. Police
brutality started long before Trump, Obama did nothing about it and certainly Trump won't do anything either no matter the amount
of kneeling!

2. He called those that marched in Charlottesville good people.
Rebuttal: a) He said some of them were good people, which is completely true. it's just like the anitfa movement or the Black lives matter
movement not everyone in those movement support violence or the looting of shops. The Charlottesville incident happened
because those who were given permit to hold a rally were met by counter protesters who came to disrupt them. Things got ugly
and one of the rally members took things too far. This does not descredit the fact that they held their rally peacefully and lawfully
as provisioned by their First amendment rights! Furthermore their rally represented different things, some where for white
supremacy, some were there for stopping the removal of confederate statues and flags. When you branch them all as evil without
knowing the full details, you end up sounding like a sheep!

3. 90% of African Americans voted for him and Cohen is spilling on him.
Rebuttal: a) 90% of 12% of 130 million is what = 14 million, Trump got 62 million votes, I think the black population's importance is overrated.
b) Cohen can spill all he wants but Trump has already positioned himself to take down anything Mueller reports, in case you have
been sleeping, the best Mueller can hope for is Impeachment and unless the Democrats can control both houses of Congress then
that's not happening....Like it or not El Cheeto is your president till 2020 or beyond

Abbeybailey:
Obama didn't start Denaturalization section for nullifying people's citizenship over minor infractions. Go and ask people that their Green card get revoked over minor things they did ages ago. Go to Foreign Section on Nairaland and see people that got their visa cancelled for unjust reasons. No matter what you say, trump is a vile racist and he's following the lead of the White Nationalist that wants him to stop Browning of America. No wonder 50% of Americans think he's a racist and to me he's a vile racist. Cohen is spilling everything as we speak and i can bet you the racist pig will leave the Oval Office in shame. Mark my word.

I never said Obama started denaturalization. Denatualization goes back all the way to 1930s and 1940s where Japanese Americans were accused of treason and forced into concentration camps. Like I said, a green card holder does not have the same rights as a US citizen so I don't know what your argument is in that regard. Trump is a racist because he acts within the US immigration laws? Please spare me that crap. The only people can be denaturalized are U.S citizens and before that happens, their case is sent to court. So my problem here is thatyou claim Trump is racist but the judge that decides the denaturalization case is what? Lol.....you're funny! If he doesn't leave the oval office, maybe carry bulldozer and remove him from there

Abbeybailey:
No one justify illegal immigration. I know I don't. The problem is that Trump is playing to his White Nationalist supporters by revoking people's Green card with minor infractions. Now he's going after naturalized citizens for minor infractions. Google Browning of America. Most of those Mexicans you are accusing are the ones doing the dirty work that Americans and Africans wouldn't do. The guy simply wants to get rid of colored people in America and that's impossible.

That's fallacy of the highest order. What would be your explanation of Obama doing the same thing? Trump's deportation stats pales in comparison to Obama. Greencard holders have limited rights under US laws so that is a non issue, for US citizens, many have been deported for drugs, domestic violence, lying to the government, failure to pay taxes and so on. If those are minor then we might as well throw the entire justice system out but let's calm down here and focus on the process, they cannot be deported without going before a judge right? So if a judge determines the U.S government made credible arguments for citizenship revocation, who are you to argue against that? I mean I could understand your outrage if Trump made the final decision but this is decided in court!

rinzaugustine:
I have passed that stage of being influenced from objectivity.I am almost 40 and maybe older and even earn more than you.Trump said he fixed north korea but kim has refused to dismantle his weapons,so we are still back to square one.He wanted to bully the mayors of several big cities into handing him records of criminal aliens instead of dialogue like obama,they refused.Now a lot of the hardened criminals ,armed robbers etc illegal immigrants are off the radar of ICE and what he does now is to spend tax payers money deporting harmless illegal immigrants doing shitty jobs american citizens won't do.All green card holders have been in the military delayed entry program for almost 2 years now without being allowed to ship to basic training.Their only crime is not being american citizens.He has set up a task force to denaturalize thousands who got their citizenship from the early 90s till date for the minutest of infraction they may have committed in the past.He has stopped military naturalizations at boot camps for soldiers which america had done for almost 300 years.He has stopped the temporary visas granted to carribean people to come and work in american farms and the midwest farmers and southern crab fishermen are almost crying as harvest time is almost near.He stopped foreign students from applying for work visas.He stopped HB work visa renewals and even stopped their spouses from working.You can now understand why the far right racist supremacists are telling everybody on fox TV that there are now jobs everywhere under trump.The resultant effect of all these ill thought out policies is that employers will be forced to increase their wages to like 15/hr for american citizens to agree to do that kind of job,then the price of goods and services will jump up in the market and if the market is not strong enough to handle the inflation ,another recession might hit america

Your age has no influence on this discussion and your income I wouldn't know unless you state it, this is the generalization that keeps you from seeing beyond your little sphere. Trump can say whatever he wants as long as we are not heading back to the "my button is bigger than yours rhetoric". One would think liberals would appreciate the fact that he is actually trying diplomacy instead of behaving like a viking! Furthermore, greencard holders were put on mandatory background screening before active deployment, no-one should have a problem with this considering the rigorous process greencard holders must go through in order to become US citizens. If an average greencard holder can make it through that rigor, they can make it through DOD mandated background screenings. In the past they were allowed to be deployed but now they must be fully vetted, it might work, it might not but as a greencard holder your rights are limited compared to a US citizen. Moving on, I have not heard of thousands being denaturalized for minor offenses, can you provide a credible source? What I'm aware of are serious crimes such as fraud, violence and so on. If you called those minor then you are not fully briefed on the legal definition of the word 'minor'. Now while I don't agree with the H1B visa policies, I argue that the exploitation of Carribean and other foreign workers who are paid as low as $2 per hour after working 12 to 18 hours per day is inhumane. You also mentioned he stopped student workers and that minimum wage would be forced to $15/hour which would in turn lead to higher cost of goods and services, isn't that the liberal agenda? Liberals for years have complained that living wage is too low and that minimum wage should be around $15 per hour, guess it's only bad when Trump is involved! You can discredit everything Trump has done and hate him all you want(God knows he deserves some of the criticism) but you cannot deny the fact that the economy is continuing it's upward trajectory. You cannot deny the fact that he campaigned on certain promises and he is fulfilling them regardless of whose feelings gets hurt. Finally, you mentioned harmless illegal immigrants doing shitty jobs Americans won't do but the fact that they are illegal in the first place shows they have no rights within the US and cannot or should not dictate to the government of the USA. Obama deported more illegal immigrants than the previous 3 presidents combined yet you and the bias media are ready to crucify Trump for doing exactly the same thing.....Talk about Double Standards!

rinzaugustine:
He is tearing down the whole structures that made america the greatest nation in the world and he has divided american people more than any other president in history with so much bigotry.His only aim is to satisfy his core base made up mostly of white,minimum wage working,lacking college education,hardcore racists and who live mostly in the mid west country side of nebraska,kentucky,iowa,wyoming etc. Majority of those people believe there are only 5 countries in the world america,russia,africa,asia and mexico Lol and and a research said they believe brown milk comes from brown cows etc N/B Most people who support him here on nairaland are people who have never stepped out of nigeria not to talk of living in America

Stay off the liberal propaganda media, a lot of Trump's supporters live in major cities, make six figures and have travelled more places than you can imagine. Let's move on, firstly what makes America the greatest country on earth happens to be the same thing that makes it one of the most dangerous places to live in. Rights, liberties, the belief that America knows best for everyone in the world. From years of direct and indirect regime changes to mass killings of innocent people, America's history is one without a moral conscience. I happen to vote for Trump and before you label me your typical low education, minimum wage working racist, know that I also supported Obama. The fact that you can sit there and judge people based on the person they voted for shows you are part of the problem in America. There would not be a Trump today without he Democrats using race and immigration as weapons to gather votes and abandoning them after, there would not be a Trump today if a large percentage of Americans were not ignored by the previous administration and choosing instead to police the world. You also mentioned that no other president has divided Americans but you are so wrong, Trump is a manifest of what has been brewing for years, he was just smart enough to tap into the division. Police brutality, poverty in black communities, illegal immigration and so on, all these existed long before Trump and the failure of the Obama administration to address them produced the reaction known as El Cheeto(Trump). So while I voted for Trump and support some of his policies, I recognize whenever he errs and it's not a must to vote for him in 2020. This is the difference between thinking objectively or following like a sheep like the liberal machine wants you to believe!

konfused:
You are right though, but going to school doesn't stop one from opening and managing a business or trade......My 2cent

True but you know how Yoruba households behave. You must be a doctor, lawyer or Engineer. Any other is frowned upon.....lol

konfused:
Jokes apart, on a more serious note, I have noticed that young yorubas boys hardly do business. Go to any major market in Nigeria, you will see Igbo and Hausa traders.

When you check it critically Hausas match Igbos toe to toe when it comes to business in Nigeria.

It's simple, the average Yoruba boy must go to school before learning trade. The parents and even the community will not allow most boys to abandon school without fierce resistance and shaming. This is the reason why you have more educated Yorubas than any other tribe in Nigeria but this comes at a cost of not actively participating in trades hence why Yorubas are more likely to travel out, settle for a desk job or even stay at home depending on inheritance. Our boys are theoretical while Igbo and Hausa boys are practical, each with its own benefits and disadvantages!

Lucasbalo:
Let me ask you one question since you are so much in love with Trampy. Does his many lies bothers you. ?.

Absolutely and it is so glaring that he is lying but come on this is Trump. The man who has exaggerated his income for years, who faked a phone call and seems to always over hype himself. Let's be honest, Trump is not a saint, I'm not even sure he believes in God but does he care about businesses in America and the economy? ABSOLUTELY! I know that the man gives you a lot to hate but quite frankly I didn't vote for him because I liked him, I voted for him because he represents a middle finger to the last administration.

Lucasbalo:
With all due respect, your points are meaningless to me. We will agree to disagree but I resent you saying 90% of African Americans can't think for themselves. End of discussion.

Good let's agree to disagree and no need for resentment, it was a simple two part question not a statement. For clarity purpose I'll highlight it below:

how many of those can think objectively for themselves without relying on CNN? How many of them actually voted?

There's no need to answer, just reflect. End of discussion and God bless!

Lucasbalo:
Yes for a guy who said openly in early 90s that he prefers the guy with yalmuke to count his money instead of black people. For a guy who championed for the death of four young black men and a young Latino guy even after they were found not culpable by DNA in which the City of New York paid each guys $11 million. That central park 5 I told you about before. Black listing Blacks in Queens by not renting his apartments to them. Master racist about his foaming in the mouth that Obama was born in Kenya. Appointing well known racists like Jeff Sessions and Steve Miller to his inner circle. I can go on but you are entitled to your opinion. There's a reason over 90% of Black Americans find him deplorable. I am not doing this to convince you and i have seen a lot in America over my 40 years of existence.

For every point you make, I can easily attribute them to him being a wealthy, spoiled brat rather than a racist. In the early 90s, Hilary called black men SUPER PREDATORS and was instrumental in passing a law targeting black men, yet she is not called a racist. Trump is a New Yorker and most New Yorkers would rather have the mafia or Italians counting their money back in the 90s. The central park 5 issue I already explained most Americans were guilty of accusing those men wrongly, so nothing racist there. Black listing blacks from renting his property once again most businesses were guilty of this back in the 80s and 90s, some were lucky not to get caught. Everything else you mentioned is just plain politics, you say 90 percent of black Americans find him deplorable but how many of those can think objectively for themselves without relying on CNN? How many of them actually voted? As a black man myself, I know my people can only make mouth online, when it comes to action we are as spineless as they come. Trump is a blabbermouth borderline childish spoiled man but he is no racists. If he was good enough to donate to several Democrats' campaigns and be toasted as the darling of American entertainment surely he is not RACIST! I'm not trying to convince you to like Trump, just giving you something to think about before condemning a man as the next Hitler!

Lucasbalo:
I have no problem with the Klans protesting because the 1st amendment right is for counter protesters too. I couldn't give a bleeping fvck about confederate flags or statues. It doesn't bother me but the Blacks of nowadays are not Jim Crow era Blacks. I live in a concealed and carry State (Illinois) and believe me I am always packing because this bro ain't gonna go down without a fight. That's why I have my Mr Smith and Weldon and my favorite Glock. Have experienced some horrible things growing up in the belly of chicagoland area. My numero uno problem in life is bigotry and that's why my hatred for the racist pig named Trampy comes from. I do not have any love for anyone who think of me as subhuman period.

What evidence do you have that Trump thinks of blacks as subhuman? I challenge you to go back 12 to 15 years ago and see what you find about Trump. You'll be surprised he was adored by the democrats and the same media who now label him as a racist. Trump's businesses employs blacks and Latinos just as much as most American companies so this let's you know Trump's rhetoric is just for the show, I can't really blame him much, it's the only way he could win. I also have 2 guns but I don't plan on living in the USA forever, 9ja is still home no matter how jagajaga it may be.

Lucasbalo:
Any Klan member to me is a devil. I guess we will agree to disagree on that. I was lucky to escaped a lynching in Cicero, Illinois many years ago while I was a sophomore in college. Have seen the ugliness of the Klans growing up in Chitown.

Klan members YES but those wanting to preserve monuments such as that of Robert E. Lee, not so much. I lived mostly in the South and there are two types of whites: those who are ignorantly racists and those who are not racists but come from racists families. The first type there is no hope but for the second ones, some of them are surprisingly more open minded than I thought, they don't want to see their family history completely wiped out. Sorry you almost got lynched but not all whites are bad.

Lucasbalo:
No one disagrees with their right to exercise their 1st amendment right but for a racist to run an innocent woman over and kill her is not a right. I hope you are not carrying the buckets for those Southern White Segregationists all over the South because they despise you as much as the despised me.

I have no doubt they despise me and I am not making an excuse for the demented mad man who ran the woman over, I'm just saying not all of them were there to hurt people, some were just exercising their right to assemble peacefully. Some were there to protest removal of statues, some were there to advocate for white supremacy, it's unfortunate that the media continues to label all of them as evil and the ones that came to counter them as saints. Sometimes things are not always black and white!

ssuccess:
Think before typing.
Stop spreading hatred

Have the Igbos even protected themselves?
Funny enough the bas*ard might even be in Lagos o.
Oponu

Lol...don't mind the buffoon

This is why Nigeria can never be great! These ones don chop so? You won't protest killings in Benue, poor roads and lack of employment but will shamelessly advocate for religious/political figures.....smh

Lucasbalo:
Whao, getting your junk from the Klan blogs. Blaming people that are protesting the Klan in a place where a Klan man ran over a protester with his car. You are a special breed of Uncle Tom.

Yea anyone that disagrees with your opinion is a racist....got it! America is a nation of laws, just because you don't like something does not mean you can infringe on their rights! The White Supremacists have the right to hold rallies as long as they can get a permit, the same way gays, trans and so on have the right to their rallies. I noticed you won't blame the state or city government which issued the permit

Siga:
...Any thought on the Central Park 5... Trump pushed Death penalty on them with a front page ad.... even after been cleared... he is yet to apologize to these guys...

Trump is a blabbermouth and often says things without having all the facts, this was one of those examples but so did majority of Americans at that time, the initial evidence against them seemed overwhelming and most Americans listening to the media already condemned them to death. Once again the problem here is the MEDIA, they can kill or save you depending on how they choose to cover the story!

Lucasbalo:
It's fact too that he call the Black NFL Players kneeling down against the oppression of their people a*shooole while at the same time calling Klan and White Nationalist marching in Charlottesville good men. That's the skin head you admire. Way to go for you. Go ask Omarrossa if Trump is racial if not and get back to me. He's a racist pig and no doubt about that. Go and Google all what he did and said about Central Park Five and get back to me.

My guy you are spewing nonsense! Omarosa is a two timing attention seeker, the fact that you consider her a good source is laughable. She is hated by both the white and black communities. Furthermore Trump never singled out black NFL players, rather he said any player who does not stand for the national anthem is a SOB and should be fired, we have white players who kneel so your example of racism is weak! Finally Charlottesville was a mixture of many events, white supremacists with a valid permit to hold their rally, counter protesters determined to stop them and the ineffective police. The beautiful thing about America is that you are allowed to peacefully protest anything, from gay rights to white nationalism. The counter protesters were the invaders here and the police should have had the foresight to predict violence. You want to blame Trump because that is what you read in the media but facts are facts, one group had a valid permit and the other determined to infringe on their constitutional rights. Yes as a black man, I am appalled by white supremacists but that does not give me the right to stop their rallies. The real culprit here is the Virginia government which granted them the permit in the first place!

Lucasbalo:
He took over the business when his father's dementia got worse. He even schemes out his two nephews out of their inheritance. You are just going about with one of his many pathological lies that he's well known for. Believe whatever you want but there is no alternate to the truth. You wonder why the Loans and the White Nationalist are jubilitating after his election.

Everything I've said is facts and you can read more about them through simple Google search. If any of his nephews felt cheated there is the legal system for that. Finally, think about this quote from Forbes and argue with your keyboard if you still don't understand:

Forbes awarded Donald Trump five out of 10 on its self-made scale, a number the publication says indicates that he "inherited a small or medium-size business and made it into a[b] ten-digit fortune[/b]".

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35836623
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Donald-Trump-become-a-billionaire

Lucasbalo:
Trump didn't turn a $1 million loan to anything. It's one of his many lies. The truth is that he took over his father's business that was worth about $300 million when his father was struck with Alzheimer's disease in the late 90s. He even cheated his two nephews ( His late brother sons ) out of their inheritance. Who does that to his own family except a guy that's so narcissistic. One thing I agree with you is that minorities in America will wake up to their civic duties with Trump escalating the racial problems in America. November 6 will tell us which way forward in America.

Your facts are skewed! His father did not die until much later, I'm talking about his initial loans, $1 million in the 1970s and a couple of millions after that. When his father died he gained control of some of his properties/businesses which were about $200 million but he only had 25 to 30% ownership in them. What made Trump into a Billionaire was his ability to invest heavily in Manhattan at a time when Manhattan was a sh**hole. Before his inheritance Trump already owned or partially owned over 10 businesses, most of them failed but he was already heavily invested. He has a net worth today anywhere between 3.5 Billion to 10 Billion dollars, so assuming he did have full ownership of $200 million business, he made a profit of minimum 1750%, either way you spin it, the man remains a genius and a wealthy one at that! Finally Trump did not escalate the racial issues in America, it started long before Trump. The Democrats use race as bait to get the colored people votes and after the election they do nothing for colored people. Police brutality under Obama was at an all time high and he just kept silent, so while it is easy to blame Trump for everything wrong in America; the real problem goes far beyond Trump!

MiltonFine:
Business genius my foot..Trump inherited an already established real estate business from his father, evaded taxes for God knows how long, and has an inflated sense of pride. Whereas, Obama's life is an epic story of 'grass to grace' and not even trump or the Devil himself can change it.

Any man that can turn a million dollar loan into 100s of millions is a genius to me. If it was so easy many people would do it even with their basic life. For example I'm sure you have 100k in your account can you turn that 100k into 1 million? Let's not knock down someone's achievements just because we don't like him or her. Yes Obama's rise to the presidency was miraculous but as the first black president of the USA, I expected more, I expected black lives to matter more, I expected him to develop benefits which targets the black communities especially the ghetto. I expected him to do something about gun violence and police brutality especially against black folks but rather Obama acted like puppet scared to offend anyone and ultimately history will judge him based on what he did for his people. For example: Who's done more for the black race? Abraham Lincoln or Obama? This is the type of enlightening discussions I love to have, not sentimental crap fed on by the media and political establishments. You might not like Trump but he is exactly what America needs, a reminder of how not to take things for granted, how not to take the black, latino votes for granted.

The reason why things are so jagajaga in this country even tho we have a high number of religious institutions is because Nigerians are naturally gullible. Our desperation for miracles and over reliance on the supernatural be it divine or traditional is just plain laughable. Pastor that cannot pray that all the Fulani herdsmen killing Christians should perish yet can pray for thunder, LMAO!