₦airaland Forum

jl115:
Boer and Khoisan

Boer aren’t an indigenous group of Africans don’t make me laugh and the khoi San are blacks.

jl115:
Colour is not a Race...............Just like Asians that have white skin are not Caucasian

You know exactly what I mean just answer the question I’m not ready for an irrelevant race debate
Find me an indigenous group of Africans who aren’t black excluding the moors or Arab immigrants

jl115:
Obviously some did go South!!hence why there are Bantu people in Southern Africa

The Bantu originated from west Africa, they went straight south they didn’t go to west the go south they simply went south from east Africa or both groups that went south from west and east Africa met. It is impossible that no one from east Africa went south.

jl115:
Geography

So you are looking for somewhere new to live you start in east Africa right. There are different groups your saying quarter chose to stay, a few went north and then the rest just went west. Nobody went south whatsoever that doesn’t make sense. They would have gone south before they went west

mtisTheQubit:
if we agree that modern humans originated from east africa then your analysis makes sense..
There is a reason I don't debate on ths stuff..No one documented all ths unline the Persians, Babylonians any other societies..For us there is no piece of evidence to support ths..The only info we got is from white man..we have to stick to his hypothesis..

But if you listen to stories told to children by elders there is not evidence that supports the white man hypothesis..actually the story is so different such that you might be surprised how the Europeans got their info from...

Exactly but yes for now for scientific and historical purposes we have to stick to the European theory

jl115:
What do you mean by Black? Black is just a colour not a race

You know exactly what I mean don’t start playing dumb, black is a race you know that I’m a black man that’s the world we live in you’re white and I’m black.

jl115:
Seconded

Show me an Indigenous group of Africans who aren’t black and aren’t the moors ( Arabs who moved to Africa )

We love to see it

mtisTheQubit:
We had a hotly contested debate on Bantu migration of ths forum some times back..actually, it was Kenyans vs Kenyans ..the argument was that the commonly known Bantu migration from the congo area might not hold water..
As Kikuyu1 posted there, Bantus might have originated from the north, not from the west...

Very interesting theory, but it makes more sense to me then the others, they had to have originated from there what’s the use in a group migrating from east Africa to west and then from west to south instead of just straight south. We know modern humans originated in east Africa, so they went north to the fertile valleys of the Nile to set up cities and communities that was the pinnacle of civilization and then from there slowly different groups began to migrate away from the area to southern parts

I suspect they went to east Africa around 100 000 years ago
They met an old group of humans in west Africa aroun 20 000 years ago and mated with them which is why west Africans generally have a different face construct and different languages then the rest of Africa
Then they got south around 80 000 years ago

I’m not completely sure about my estimated in west Africa though but the oldest Homo sapiens found in yoruba land were from 9200BC

mtisTheQubit:
cant blame them...If its not the Egyptian everyone wants to be a jew...

We don’t want to be them we are proud of our ancestry don’t you remember when we were telling about the great ancient benin city or when we were talking about the great Oyo empire we are proud of what we have but we cannot lose what sparked the rest of them to the whites they steal everything our heritage, our culture and now they’re trying to steal our history and our languages and claim it for themselves we need to be aware of these things before we lose where all the great civilizations of the world started in Africa and where all great African civilization started and that was in kemet I resent anyone who claims to be a Jew from my ethnic group I am a yoruba, an igbo and a deltan full stop

mtisTheQubit:
Boss, you gonna piss off so many folks here..insinuating that Bantus ruled em..
Anyway, DNA structure of ancient Egyptians is debatable like almost every society claiming a piece of it even the Somalis ..but what you posted here is undeniable an does explain alot if only people might take time an think about it..
if it's true then the commonly told Bantu migration route might be incorrect..

So are you suggesting the Bantu migration happened before ancient Egypt was built and that instead of simply migrating south they went north as well if that is true then it means that Arabs are part Bantus as well as some of the Romans seeing that they later conquered and breeder with the inhabitants of ancient Egypt

ERORR404:
If you check well, you'll find out this "firm" is owned by one of them( you know who).

It’s owned by an African or should I say nigerian woman it isn’t owned by tinubu shut up and go and some research out of jealousy some of you will rubbish the work of many who work very hard go and watch cnn and see how she started her business

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
So when did the 800 likes for me come from

Aince when guy your a verified liar. Nobody appreciates you, you haven’t offered any solution to Nigeria and for some reason you believe everyone there is an illiterate even though your using a nigerian website how tf does an illiterate make a website

gallivant:
They were African, not black.

It’s clear you don’t know that back in those days all Africans were black it is the Arabs and Europeans who settled in Africa that created those new racial groups that aren’t black and notice how they’re only found in the north where contact was actually there. Ask herodotus

kikuyu1:
Abohboy, for you. You SHOULD ALREADY know this.

I’m confused how is this for me this just backs my point that the ancient Egyptians were black

jl115:
the is nothing grammatically wrong with that sentence....But you would understand that now would you?

I think he interpreted the sentence wrong the same way I did.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
I agreed with you when you said all states to defend themselves in Nigeria but by attacking people the Kenyans how will you solve Nigeria's problem. That's why when I am here I mostly concentrate on Nigeria and Nigerians problems

You don’t try and solve any problems so stfu

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
My people are close-minded don't like to open their mind to the truth

Stop saying my people were not your people were working to fix the nation your working to bring it’s downfall two polar opposites some of us are getting involved in meaningful projects and political parties others like you simply wail without preferring any solutions

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
You need to read history a lot more the so-called African champions are the worste . You forgot Idi Amin dada, kabila these people killed tens of thousands of their own people just like Mugabe

Nobody thought Kabila was a hero

jl115:
no the ultimate point you were trying to make was that black Egyptians did not trade slaves but Arab ones did

That wasn’t the ultimate point, the original point was that European and Asian civilisations originated from kemet which was a great black civilization it all stems from when you said the Greeks were the first to have street lighting, but in reality it was kemet then it turned into they were Arabs but they were blacks that was the point then you brought in slaves into it because at the start that was the point of the discussion but then it changed to ancient black civilisation and was kemet black and with the input of I, vlain and just30 we have shown that it was a black civilisation period.

jl115:
Ok then.... according to your own definition of Ancient...... Ancient Egyptians were very involved in slavery

Okay maybe I was wrong in that sense but they were still black and that’s the ultimate point.

jl115:
so what is ancient or not.... That's what I asked

And I gave you the time period 4000BC to roughly 500BC

jl115:
They refuted that the pyramids were built with thousands of foreign slaves..... Not there wasn't a slave trade..... It very clearly says in this source and other research that slavery was apparent in Egypt since 1550BC and that humans were bought and sold....

Also I still don't accept that Egyptians are/were black BTW

That’s your business

jl115:
Not my words

hence your argument that Black Egyptians didn't trade slaves is utter garbage @Vlain you can read this to


http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/slaves.htm

Good the first step has been accomp,I shed you acknowledge that they were black but now the funny part is here your own website refuted your claim saying it is unlikely they had slaves build ancient Egypt learn to read although I haven’t finished the start of this information board has already rubbished your claim that they traded slaves, and they didn’t trade slaves they kidnapped and enslaved them big difference thst is they did have slaves that’s what they would have done they didn’t trade human bodies.

jl115:
I literally don't...........form what date is ancient?

Inception of Egyptian civilisation 4000BC till conquest of Egyptian civilisation 525AD although they had already been mating and living with other ethnic groups from 500BC

jl115:
when is ancient and when is not?

You know very well when ancient Egypt or kemet as a whole ended it ended when foreign groups took over the kingdom/empire. I am talking about pre imperialist actions upon the Egyptians go and read up what herodotos said about the Egyptians

jl115:
You said black Egyptians didn't practice slavery

I haven’t done my research so I’m trusting you on this, I’m not sure but I’m pretty sure the theory that slaves built ancient Egypt is false but who knows my only evidence for now is your words so I’m trusting you I will do further research at some point but for now guess I was wrong

jl115:
Ok well slavery existed in Egypt since 1550 B.C.................so yeah

Cool story bro, the point is the ancient Egyptians were black

jl115:
Im pretty sure back then(when ever that is?) they were still Black and Arab..........

No just black the Arabs are completely different from the ancient Egyptians stop flexing your stupidity.

jl115:
Ok so when did Egyptians go from black to none black?

After the Persians conquered them in 525AD a whole lot of other empires conquered them as well as the Arabs, ottomans etc. Diluting the blood line and giving them the Coptic look

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Have you been to that country at all?
Do you know anybody from Bulawayo from Southern Zimbabwe and ask them what happened because here in Sao Paulo there are a lot of them. The man murdered a lot of them and were putting their dead bodies in caves

I do actually one of my friends at an old school I used to go to back in the days was from Bulawayo and I asked him why he moved he didn’t say anything about a massacre just that the country was poor.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
The figure which you are given is more correct he massacred the the Ndebele Kingdom​​ tribe

No he didn’t. You guys are funny very anti African