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Funny thread. Busted indeed. But for real I think any girl would cooperate anywhere with a 'buster' that catches her fancy - maybe one that is goodlooking, cool, attractive, rich or whatever. She knows she might never see him again if she plays hard to get and fails to exchange numbers with him. There are always double standards in life. That a girl doesn't respond to one guy at a bus stop does not mean that she wouldn't respond to a different kind of guy at the same busy bus stop. It all depends on the guy, and perhaps the girl's mood on a particular day.

You would hear some girls say they like a guy that has 'swag', you would hear guys brag that with their 'swag' they can get any girl they want. Even girls also claim to have their own 'swag' too. But nobody bothers to explain the main elements of this so-called swag or swagger. The term is now so vague. Please my people, what is SWAG? ? ?

Why not just marry someone in the same class as you

So Eva Longoria and Tony Parker are not in the same "class"? So Mark Zuckerberg should marry Oprah Winfrey just to have peace of mind that one blood sucking thing would not dupe him off the fortune his brain and hard work earned him? You women have to show that you have some sense in your skulls. Make the gender equality crusade real by demonstrating you can actually reason. Otherwise the moderators could as well lock this darn thread. Lets call it a day.

it is not my fault if anyone chooses to reason at a simplistic level or derail arguement from the main micro points from which it all started. I read philosophy and so I am trained to argue laterally.

Nekai:
True! I met a guy a few years back that had money and he was always bragging about what he bought or how he stayed at the most expensive hotels when he goes on business trips. It was really unattractive, and after a few dates I was finished. I would have rathered he didn't tell me how wealthy he was. It was almost like he thought he had nothing else to offer me except money.
Some guys that are rich have taken too much pride in material things and flashy lifestyles, then they get upset when all they attract is women who covet those things.

If you refused to sleep with him or be attracted to him ab initio at that point, then that would make you a truly decent girl - which is my point. But if, despite all his so-called bragging, you still fell for him (or his money), with the vain hope that he would or should stick to you alone, then your so-called decency would only be superficial, and therefore false. That is essentially my whole point with Mr. Brown jay, I wonder why it is turning to one thing two things.

some of us have been around and we talk reality that happens: i.e. What IS, not what OUGHT to be. Forget few exceptions here and there, we are talking about overwhelming majority. If a super rich young man chooses to be faithful to one girl, it is a rare occurence, a 5% case, and in any case it is HIS choice. It is unrealistic for a so-called decent girl to EXPECT such a guy to be faithful to her alone. If she has any sense at all, she would know ab initio that such a guy is PRONE to unfaithfulness due to the fact that he has wat 90% of girls want. And that girls would throw themselves at him so she should not claim to be truly angry if she hears of or sees his unfaithfulness. If she doesn't want all that wahala as a truly 'decent' girl, she would have gone for moderate guys that are less PRONE to all that drama. Again one has to consider the 3 scenarios I created in the first post on this thread. Maybe a richer girl than the guy would have a sense of entitlement, and so on, but not a poorer girl, however decent - why did you fall for him in the first place? These are facts of life that we see everyday. I don''t need to convince anyone about anything.

@ Ferhyntorian, Pro1 and Filani,

the 2 main reasons why most women here have been supporting the nonsense called divorce settlement is that either the wife gave up "her best years" to serve as the man's housewife, or she did the great job and serious wahala of taking care of "the man's" children. Now, just wondering, did Eva Longoria and Parker have children together? Or, did Eva Longoria give up her acting career and her "best years" to be Parker's full time housewife? Just in case the answer to these 2 questions is no, that means something must be wrong somewhere. I wouldn't waste my time arguing this anymore. I can only thank god that nigeria law system doesnt encourage such nonsense.

In addition to my earlier point about rich guys and "their kind of girls" that are often never TRULY decent girls, I just remembered a perfect example. Back in school there was this very rich Igbo student called Champion. He was 'crowned' champion after he successfully slept with four fine roommates in one of the female hostels. Apparently one was his supposed girlfriend, while the others just wanted a piece of champion's crazy money (His dad was an illiterate multi-millionaire importer in Onitcha who thought the more money he gave his son, the higher grades he would make - so champion operated on a blank cheque throughout; his account was always in the millions as a young student in his early twenties, with a flashy kompressor c-class mercedes). When the four girls later found out that this guy had slept with them all, instead of getting mad at him, they turned on each other - and he kept sleeping with all because they all wanted to outdo the other to be his 'first lady', these were all normal fine chicks, not aristos or 'bad girls' so to say. And the whole school knew his playboy reputation and vast wealth. Is this the kind of drama a TRULY decent girl would want to be involved in? Of course not. A truly decent girl should never fall for the temptation of dating such a guy in the first place, and later complain that he is cheating - that would be hilarious.

bhusayor:
This is a silly thing to say

is it that decent girls should not be with rich guys?

or rich guys dont deserve to live a decent lifestyle by sticking to one girl

or there are no faithful rich guys

or broke guys dont cheat

make me understand pls

seems you've seen it all

Isn't it even more silly that you want to understand what you've already declared silly? Its amazing how you people like to throw unprovoked punches on this forum, and if one retaliates he becomes the villain. You ought to be unsilly enough to know that you can make your point or counter-point without insulting a poster, or just ignore a post altogether if it pains you too much.

MRBrownJ:
Aca77
May I ask you:

- are you saying that because you have never seen something happen therefore it CANNOT happen?

- who does these decent girls automatically end up with then, if rich guys are not for them?!

- are you claiming that rich guys will automatically be "wahala" and that no girl can possess their heart?! (what a sad life they must have, if that were true)

- if I understand what you wrote correctly, a rich guy can ONLY end up with a GD? Is that what you are claiming?
- if not, then can you share with us who are the "big boys kind of girls"?

Seems you chose to understand my point too simply. Remember I was responding to your claim that some 'decent' girls would dump their rich guys if they 'fork up'. And by 'fork up' I know you meant cheat. So I am assuming that you mean that decent girls can't stand guys that cheat, no matter how rich?

if those assumptions are correct, then here is what I'm saying: a so called decent girl would be truly daft or to put it mildly, deluded, if she thinks she can lock in - for example Paddy Adenuga - who is filthy rich, and madly sought after by every random girl in Lagos. A girl who falls for a 'bad' boy or player (which is precisely what most young rich naija men necessarily are) cannot convince me of her so-called decency. Lets face it, the fact is that it would be almost impossible to possess such a hot property (as in have him all to yourself sexually and emotionally). In my experience, truly decent girls dont want all that drama, they prefer a quiet life with the one they love and that loves them back, if their boyfriend later becomes rich, that is a different matter altogether.

On the other hand, the 'big boys kind of girls' are the remaining 90 percent of Nigerian girls including (those with superficial decency) who really just desire a rich guy at all costs (for the obvious benefits) no matter how he treats them or how many other girls he has. I think my point is simple enough for anyone who knows what a truly decent girl is, I sure do. No wonder they are so hard to find.

Judging from most women's responses here, it seems that the end always justifies the means with women. Just do it first by force or fire, and if they enjoy the process or outcome, then they're fine with it. But if you ask them for permission first before you do, they might never grant the permission. So in essence, with women, don't ask, just do it. Thats very bad. Only a very selfish and irrational person would even contemplate keeping such a baby. If you want a child so badly, you can adopt or something, rather than bear a child for a filthy armed robber. Where is your shame and dignity, oh woman?

MRbrownJAY:
@kokoye
Well said about Tiger Woods wifey.

@poster
Rich guys will attract a lot of gold diggers and also a lot of decent ones. If he choses to date the GD, then they will stick even if they catch him in bed with 10women(because his money is only the attraction) on the other hand, the decent girl, who shouldn't turn down the gift he gives her, will dump him the minute he fukcs up (and probably throw his gifts in his face too).

Well I've not seen that happen, - especially in Nigeria. A truly truly decent girl that doesnt want wahala should not be attracted to a widely sought after rich young man in the first place - does she truly think she can possess him alone? Real decent girls leave the 'big boys' to their kind of girls, I think. Besides a big problem with this kind of theory (for discussion sake) is that every random girl in the city would hug that viewpoint and claim that she belongs in the rare category of "decent girl". Who are the gold diggers then? I've never seen any girl that admits she's a gold digger.

tpiah!:
ever is a pretty strong superlative which for some reason nlers delight in using.

i tend to think overuse of it shows a somewhat low IQ.

Derailing from a thread's topic to a trifling matter might suggest a possession of 'high' IQ to some. While you're at it,  why not take your 'high' online IQ to the education section and give them your English lessons there?

freecocoa:
Who said rich guys dont get dumped?my elder sis dumped her rich lying cheat of a boyfriend.

desholah:
^^^Go back and ask her why really dumped him . . . .I'm sure she didn;t tell yah the whole story.
I'm sure something horrible must have happened and not what you were told.
For where Naija babes to dump rich men . . ,  Not in this world

Of course we don't expect most people, especially girls, to admit they were dumped. They would rather claim that "I dumped him joor, he was cheating on me", just to save their pride. If one investigates well, you would see that even if the guy didnt dump her officially (like, "hey Tilewa, from today I declare you officially dumped", but he must have stopped picking her calls or calling her long ago so that she would get the message.

I really sympathize with the husband in that situation. For 20 years you've been shooting off target while it took a ruthless bandit just a few minutes to pump hot shot into the wife and score a goal. The husband's ego and self-esteem would be permanently shattered if he ever knows. He might even kill the baby with his own hands. God forbid such.

ThiefOfHearts:
Sagamite your obsession with this thread is disturbing

Perhaps someone can tyell me what George Lopez's wife deserves considerng she gave that decrept goat her kidney and he divorced her months later for some new woman, keep in mind wives doing this for their husbands and children is quite common in the States but I guess like yall say women brng nothing and dont deserve anything in the end

Seriously this thread is daft

ThiefOfHearts:
more so than ANY other group, yes. Only a delusional lunatic would disagree

Yes, only a delusional lunatic would repeatedly declare a thread "daft" and yet repeatedly yield to the temptation of posting daftly in such daft thread - instead of leaving it for "daft" people like the rest of us. Only a delusional lunatic would.

MRbrownJAY:
@poster
I am sure Tiger woods will think otherwise.

But Tiger Woods is not Nigerian. Besides he wasn't dumped per se. He was conned into marriage and then divorced, big difference if you ask me. That nanny may not have dumped him for his infidelity if they were merely dating instead of married - because there'll have been no tantalizing prospect of multi-million dollar divorce settlement of the sort she got after divorcing him. So he wan't dumped, he was conned.

I ask this question because I've noticed that all the rich guys I've ever known right from secondary school all through University always did the dumping. The only 3 exceptions I've seen are: 1. If the girl is richer, 2. if the guy is the soft wimpy silver-spoon type who doesn't realize the power of his money and falls in love too deeply with (a comfortable) girl who gets tired of his clingyness, 3. If the guy is the very stingy type that doesnt give the girl money or gifts despite his wealth (but this is not so sure as many girls would stick around hoping). Other than these, it seems most Nigerian girls are simply incapable of jilting a rich guy who they gain things from - no matter how terrible the guy is in other aspects. Even if the girls meet a richer guy, they still keep the previous one on the side just in case.
All the rich friends I have, I've never heard of relationship troubles they have due to one girl leaving them or breaking their heart, instead, they do all the dumping and seem to change girls like diapers. Last weekend, I witnessed where one such girl a rich friend of mine dumped had her mother phone the guy to beg for peace on her behalf. And the girl is very pretty from a decent middle class background!
How come rich guys (especially in Nigeria) hardly get dumped?

tpiah!:
which money una dey even argue about sef?


the 50% will it pass at most 5000 euros.

not even enough for diaper and baby food talkless other things.

make these guys waka pass jo.

let tiger woods do the talking.

So that confirms why you are all interested in marrying a wealthy man? So you can run off with a huge fortune in case divorce happens?

chaircover:
LOL that is what I was saying 2 or 3 pages ago. For many peeps we are only talking about one property and one 2000 model car that is already crying out for a new clutch.

All I am hearing is "my money" " my money" which money sef?

Look around you . . . .In todays real world, many women are earning as much as and in lots of cases even more than what their husbands are earning.

So, ejo e ja ka gboran jare. Make we hear word

Your arguements are uncoordinated. What exactly do you stand for? If there are so many women earning more than their husbands, why are you still supporting divorce settlement? Seems like women just can't help eating their cake and stll wanting to have it.

chaircover:
The law in this instance is there to protect vulnerable women who would otherwise be chased out of the house with the clothes on their backs after years of keeping things together and in some cases simply because men have found a younger and nicer looking model (remember that you implied that men have no common sense when it comes to choosing a mate)

The fact that this same law is used and abused by some people doesn't mean that it should be abolished expecially as this same law is protecting and helping many many people who would have otherwise had no other help.

God so good, you men now know that some women are prepared to take you to the cleaners, so to be fore warned is to be forearmed and as harakiri has mentioned that men don't need to get married anyway, so why don't you do everyone a favour and remain happily single with all your money intact under your bed

Is it the same women that earn more than their husbands, according to you, that would be chased out? After putting 'things' together, what things? You say the law is good because it protects such women, protect them from their own greed or what? What I find rather puzzling is that on one hand, you've insinuated that we 'poor' men should just shut up because it's not men like us you hope to get divorce settlemennts from. But if you end up marrying men like us (after unsuccessfully hunting for wealthy men), you would go out and work, and earn more than us (wait a minute, who would then take care of the children, since we both work?). But if God answers your prayers and you land a billionaire like Tiger Woods, you'd gladly give up your career because you know that you'd earn more and enjoy more luxury as his wife than you ever would as a career woman even in three lifetimes. Then you'd stay home in his mansion with plenty house helps and bottomless pit of cash as domestic-expenses to 'put things together' (who send you work?), put what together? And if divorce ever happens, you would then want a huge part of his millions or billions as 'protection'. Protection from what? What happened to the savings you have from the millions at your disposal for shopping etc while you were married to him? Would you have even earned up to what he gave you as shopping allowance during the marriage if you were working as a career woman?
Your arguements are neither here nor there. Only Atreides has made clear sense about all this. The rest of you females are just running from pillar to post out of sheer, typical 'eat your cake and have it' greed.

Usually i never believe that there is an
excuse for adultery but after listening to her in tears, i started to ponder if some cases of adultery can be justified.

Can you imagine this? Yet another reason why "women would always be women".

dayokanu:
Can we have the stats for millionaires? and succesful people ?

COs in this stats It ommited people like Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison etc

Show us stats that indicate women are as succesful as men in making money

God bless you! This nairaland website has opened my eyes to just how manipulative women are. Always clever by half. College degrees nonsense. . .how does that correlate to the divorce settlement we are talking about? Why didnt they earn the millions and billions with their so called empty college degrees so that men would be the ones scheming for divorce settlements? How many SELF MADE women (I only know of Oprah and JK Rowlings) are in the Forbes top 500 list of billionaires?

I've just read all the arguments and, and I regret to say that it is true that "women would be women". They are always in support of their gender no matter what. All of them have proved their biased emptiness except Atredes who is the only woman here that said the truth. I'm particularly disappointed in Chaircover who I've seen as a realistic person from her previous posts on Nairaland before now. Harakiri. pro01, Day Kanu and Sagamite have made deeply analytical points that no logical person can argue with. There is no reason why a man should give a woman money he worked for, unless he freely chooses to. That is just it. If raising or taking care of children is such a 'big deal', then nannies should be the highest paid people in the world. Nonsense.

armyofone:
OP, do not chill yet. NOT yet Uhuru!!! you thanking God the good system in the west (favoring women) is not yet in nigeria?? haha just wait LOL
we are coming soon to Nigeria. We plan to upgrade the police and legal bs you guys have in nigeria. when we m*ess eh, cold go catch fowl

Sorry to disappoint you. Nigeria would never get to the point where such nonsense would take root. Most women here are already leeches sucking on their boyfreinds/husband's finances. It shouldn't get any worse.

MRbrownJAY:
@nnekai
I am sorry to say that when your husband is worth at least $10milla, you will never touch a pot, clean a baby's asss or even know how to turn on the washing machine. Don't get it twisted!

Your only "job" would be to look good and fukc your man!

Dont mind these clever by half women. Its amazing how they think their 'hard work' as a spoiled wife with a retinue of nannies, cooks, cleaners, drivers etc. entitles them to a multi-million dollar payday when they divorce their benefactor. What kind of brain even tries to find any justification for that?

MRbrownJAY:
There is a thin line between love and hate so women would gladly hurt men where the would feel it the most. If you stoopid enough to marry some damsel without a prenup then you should be taken for your money because you are a fool.

Btw if you guys have children together, then she needs to have a proper place to raise them(or when they visit her) and money to feed them until she finds another mumu to take care of her.

There is a big difference between Divorce settlement and child support. Of course most men would gladly provide child support (that is if it is decided for whatever reason that the woman should have custody of the children). But what is the idea of paying settlement to some woman who decides/agrees to divorce a man. If she is so interested in divorcing the man, why not also divorce his money? I agree with you that only fools would marry without signing prenups.

ThiefOfHearts:
since it doesnt apply in Nigeria

why do you care?

all these daft threads sef

Yeah, it's a daft thread, that is why a daft leech like yourself feels the need to post in it. After all, daft threads attract daft posters like you. Innit?

I just dont get it. Why should a man work so hard for his money, marry one liability of a wife and then due to some reason they get divorced - only for the liability woman that did not contribute anything whatsoever to the money made by the man to claim portions of his fortune as divorce settlement? Settlement for what? If the woman is so pissed by his cheating or whatever caused the divorce, why not simply leave him without greedily lusting after some of his money. And these women that claim feminists and independent women, but they still want to take a man's money that they did not help in making. I just thank God that such nonsense is not applicable in Nigeria.

Here's a funny 'joke' I found in my email inbox this morning; thought to share it with my NL people.

Dearest One,

I am writting this mail to you with heavy sorrow in my heart. My name is Mrs Yomun Barakah. So do not be afraid. I am contacting you from my country Tunisia, i want to tell you this because i don't have any other option than to tell you as i was touched to open up to you.


I am married to Mr. Asad Barakah,who worked with Tunisia embassy in Burkina-faso for nine years before he died in the year 2005. We were married for eleven years without a child.He died after a brief illness that lasted for only five days. Since his death i decided not to remarry, when my husband
was alive he deposited the sum of US$ 8.2m (Eight million two hundred thousand dollars) in a bank in Ouagadougou the capital city of Burkina-faso in westAfrica. presently this money is still in the bank. He made this money available for exportation of gold from Burkina-faso minning.

Recently, my doctor told me that i
would not last for the period of
seven months due to canser
problem. You see,whosoever that
want to serve God must serve him
in spirit and in truth because God is
the most high, please always be
prayerful all through your live.
(LOL!)

The one that disturbs me most is
my cancer sickness.Having known
my condition i decided to hand you
over this money to take care of the
less privileged people.You will
utilise this money the way i am
going to intruct you herein.
I want you to take 30% of the total
money for your personal use while
70% of the money will go to
charity,people in the street and
helping the orphanage.

I don't have any child that will
inherit this money and my
husband relatives are not good,not
even good at all because they are
the one responsible for the death
of my husband in other to have all
my late husbands properties,and i
don't want my husband's efforts to
be used by those that conspired for
his death.

I grew up as an orphan and i don't
have anybody as my family
member, just to endeacour that the
name of God is maintained.I am
doing this so that God will forgive
my sins and accept my
soul, because this sicknrss have
suffered me so much.

As soon as i receive your reply i
shall give you the contact of the
bank in Burkina-faso,and i will send
an authority letter to the bank that
will prove you as the present
beneficiary of the money in the
bank. that is if you assure me that
you will act accordingly as i
instructed you herein.

Hoping to receive your reply.

Mrs Yomun Barakah.
writting from Tunis.

Frigid in the sense of female sexuality. . .

I've heard some of my friends argue that a wife with an extremely low sex drive, who in fact hates sex or is at best indifferent to it, is the "safest bet" for a husband's peace of mind if you know what I mean. In a way I think they have a point. Just that they have not quite explained how they (the husbands) would get their groove on with such wives.