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OkukuOne:
I responded to your email message yesterday, and now you are requesting your attention once again.

Na wa sha...

Sometimes, we just want to have the gurus at our beck and call...no be our fault. Just bear with us!

pristinee:
Thanks alot for your prompt response, just for clarification please.

This is a fresh application that doesn't include the student. Study permit have been granted already. Spouse now wants to put in his application. So is this 4kCAD still the required amount? Thanks

It is advisable to atleast demonstrate availability of 4K for spouse and 3k for any other accompanying dependant. Although, i have seen an instance where the spouse alone applied for SOWP without POF and it was approved. Infact the agent that treated the application insisted there was no need for the POF because by the very purpose of SOWP which is the applicant coming to work to support the student or family.

However, to be on the safe side, i will still advise that you demonstrate the 4k living expense.

GoldenCrown1160:
Congratulations
It's a positive sign on your application.
The message was programmed to be sent to you on that date despited your have done an upfront medical.
I had the same experience about two years ago.

Thank you

OkukuOne:
Send again through webform. Is normal practice.

Good luck!

Ok...thank you!

Hello Gurus,

Please what do you do when an upfront medical done and sent via webform had been acknowledged by IRCC over 2 weeks ago, yet you get a medical request from same IRCC later? Is it just to resend via webform or contact IOM? or send mails to all known IRCC addresses? or a combination of all the above?

Please it's urgent.

Princessmay11:
PPR alert for myself and one daughter
And I’m 6 months pregnant!
Date applied March 12
Biometrics March 20
Medical request May 30
Medical passed for my daughter June 16
Medical passes for me June 19
PPR June 22

Please I tried to book appointment for submission but I’m seeing July 7 😞 is there a way to get a sooner date ? Because some airline will not allow me if I’m over 28weeks pregnant. Please help. I can’t wait that long

Maybe you should try to call them or chat them online and see if they can give you some concession. I am aware they offer VIP services at a cost though. So you may want to check that out.

Ultimaate:
My program is a 2years diploma
Fees is 35,500 CAD
I have paid deposit of 1000 CAD with option then to deposit the first semester fees if my sch opens portal for international student fees.
The sponsor is my mother
I did 1 year internship after my graduation and there was no salary for it, but I attached my employment latter.
I did not explain why my mum is sponsoring and didn’t emphasize more there.
I didn’t explain her remaining properties and car.
I did Biochemistry and I’m furthering for laboratory research and biotechnology.
I uploaded the attorney’s papers of the landed documents sold.

Your required POF would be

Tuition : (35,500 - 1000) = 34,500
Living Exp 10,000 * 2 years= 20,000
Miscellaneous and Trans. = 5,000

Total will be about CAD 59,500 which @ 345 = N20.5M

POF appears alright and It is okay if your mum is fully and solely sponsoring you as her child, however, you need to show her source of income and demonstrate that she will have enough funds left after sponsoring you because she and your siblings (if any) will not cease to exist because you are off to school. If she's using all she has, like you said that she sold properties, you should demonstrate that there are still so many assets she still has if the account does not have much again. Otherwise the VO will not accept it as a reasonable expense. You also need to address the other things you listed there. It is important you proof she is your mum, by attaching your birth certificate and maybe pictures.

Also, you would need to demonstrate career progression. Explain how biochemistry relates to the new course you are enrolling for.

Like I stated earlier, your GCMS notes will clearly point out the VOs concern. Sorry once again and quickly do the needful so you can refire.

Note that rates have gone up now when reapplying.

macdeeza:
A friend just submitted study permit application last week with a proof of funds based on the old naira to CAD$ exchange rate
With this new naira rate, his POF appears grossly insufficient.
Does any one has an idea what he can do in this situation. If they access him based on the old rate, he will scale through but the new rate will cut his POF almost by half.
Please I need suggestion before his eligibility starts

I wonder if anyone can give you a definite response because it's a strange situation we are all confronted with. However, i'm curious as to what you intend doing with the response? Are you thinking of boosting the POF and sending via webform? how do you explain the lumpsum because indeed it will be a lumpsum payment since you talked about half of the previous POF. or you want to support with additional sponsor and account. What happens if the rate continues to slide and also swallow up the new addition? will you get a third account?? My guess will be to treat based on the rate on application day.

Sincerely, we need to start seeing new PPRs to get an idea how IRCC is treating the situation. It will also be interesting to hear the views of our IRCC accredited gurus in the house

OkukuOne:
It would only pose a risk if the spouse who is already in Canada is unemployed, particularly considering the fact that they have children. However, I would still prefer to be cautious and meet the minimum requirements set by IRCC to ensure safety.

Good luck!

Exactly and that was the case because the husband applied immediately she landed in Canada. Hence, she did not have a job at the time.

Like you said...It's a big risk!

adelejane:
Hi applied for study visa with 2 kids , my son and I got ppr today but my daughter hasn’t received passport request. Strangely on her portal I noticed todays date JULY 21st on final decision session which isn’t the Norm, usually that part has no date but with the date it still states application is in progress , we will send you a message once the final decision has been made .

Please as anyone experienced this or anyone no what I can do to sort this .

Congratulations! Do not worry, it will drop soon. You can send the webform to remind them as someone earlier suggested.

Meanwhile, when did you apply? Drop timeline to encourage your people!

Ultimaate:
Yes it was the full proceed of the land and it was 3 different lands from different places and it has a good value. Secondly I added my mom NIN sleep

Truth is the GCMS note is what can reveal the VO's exact concerns. We can only attempt to hazard a guess from our individual experiences, but that should not replace the GCMS except if you are in a hurry to reapply. In which case you need to provide more details so that @Zubi and others can really assist. Details like duration of your program, the Tuition, how much you paid, How you proved relationship with sponsor, How long you been working? did you explain why she is fully sponsoring you? what is she left with her after sponsoring? etc. Another issue was the purpose, which means you probably did not prove career progression, the reasonableness of the expense and so on.

Summary...try to get GCMS to avoid the guess work.

ATTAHDYE:
Unfortunately, this will end in a ban ( or denial if you're lucky).

The agent has used a stolen card to pay for your visa application and the money was charged back after the cardholder logged a complaint about the unauthorized debit.

This why it is very important that you make sure that you're part of the process when using an agent.

Haba! Calm down now...Sure it doesn't look good but you can't conclude that it would lead to a ban or a denial. Indeed, chargeback is not necessarily an evidence of hanky panky. It could be an error. Imagine that you get debited twice for the same service. Upon complaint, most bank will lodge the 2 debits because it may be difficult to tell which of them was successful and which went through. Hence both may be reversed and then a counter chargeback might be initiated for the transaction to be reinitiated or the merchant just notifies you like IRCC are doing in this case for you to repay.

So the man should respond to IRCC and tell them if it was an error or a glitch.

However, this does not also mean that what you were insinuating about being a stolen card is impossible, but making a sweeping comment like that might be unfair to the agent especially if he's really innocent and might scare the applicant to death. Ban ke....Abeg o!!

OkukuOne:
If she has POF in Canada, she does not need to wire it over to you. She can support your application with pay stubs of her earnings and bank statement. The money MUST not be in your account unless the money in her account is for her upkeep and schhol fees. If she has surplus, then she can show it in POF.

On a second tot, how many kids are travelling with you? You do not need so much after all. 23,000 CAD is sufficient for a family size of up to 5 (excluding you wife that is already there). Unless of course, you are still met to send her money for upkeep as per her SOP for SP.

Anyway, goodluck!

I even stumbled on someone saying that her hubby applied for SOWP without POF and got approval. She said she was also doubting it but her agent insisted that they trust him, and they decided to risk it. She said the agent told her that since the applicant was coming to work, IRCC would not so much bother about POF. I was stunned too but i guess the rationale would be that the hubby applied alone without accompanying kids so it might not be same as applying with kids. Mind you, the kids had gone ahead with her, so hubby just applied alone after they touched down.

However, i still think it's a risk to do that. What do you guys think?

Willie3040:
Hello Guys'

I am not happy at all right now as I just got a refusal letter to my application which read in part...

Thank you for your interest in studying in Canada. I have reviewed your study permit application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a study permit (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/study-permit/ eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://lawslois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application. • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph R216(1)(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/ section-216.html).

I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence.

…................
Please note that I am self sponsored and I have a closing balance of 72M, after the sale of some properties.

My salary from current employment is 200k from my current employment.

Please kindly advise me on what I need to do. Can I reapply, considering the fact that the resumption in the school is 5th of September?

I will really appreciate an urgent response to this. Thanks in advance.

Sorry for the refusal! However, you have not really shared enough information to enable people offer the help you will need. All i can say for now is that you request for your GCMS notes immediately, so you can frontally address the issues in your reapplication. Thankfully, on the average, reapplications get faster approvals, so you may still be in time to make the resumption date.

But on the surface, having a monthly income of N200K and posting a balance of N72M will require enough documentation to fly. How long have you been working and earning that? How much was the sold property? Did you tidy up documentation for the property? Did you have lumpsums in the accounts (besides the property sales) that were not properly explained? What was the opening balance for the duration you presented to IRCC? Were these issues clearly explained in your SOP? All these information make or mar the "POF issues" we often see.

Just arrange for the GCMS notes immediately so that you don't refire blank.

Cheer up! You will be fine.

fk001:
This government will win the masses through PR.

There's so far PR can take the masses. Let the praise singers continue to pretend that all is well. The purchasing power of Nigerians is by far at its lowest rung. Most of these policies are ill-timed. Little or no palliatives to cushion the effects on the masses.

I really hope to be proven wrong, but Unifying the FX rate now is more calamitous than beneficial. It's like doing the right thing at the wrong time. You can't subject the naira to free market forces without ensuring we have a fair dollar supply over demand. Worst case scenerio, wait till the refineries take off, so that our dollar demand will reduce. So long as the demand for dollar continues to exceed the supply...we are on a jolly long ride.

Truth is most of us know it...but we are not ready to "hit him below the belt" because he's our own.

segzyndpep:
Yes thank you. But it hasn't been updated since 16/06/2023.
Is it something to be worried about because honestly this FX has made POF totally useless and a whole lot has gone into it already.

Sorry brother...It is really sad. Don't give up, just a little more work on the POF and you are there. It has affected everybody. Even some of us with outstanding applications are waiting with bated breath to see how they respond. School fees payment is also there waiting on one corner. It is well with us.

golor:
Please if someone has a medical request can the person work In IOM without booking?

Sure, you can walk in and may or may not be attended to that same day, but you will atleast be given appointment to come on a closer day than if you book from home.

idirect:
Good morning people.
I am working in a government institution and I have an official email address. I want to know if applying for study permit with my official email give any credence to my application or I should just stick to my personal email. Thank you.

Why would you do that? what if you move to another job or get terminated (God Forbid), how will you then be able to maintain correspondence with IRCC. A Reference letter from the ministry is enough to identify you as a staff there. They can confirm it if they have their doubts.

Dessymond394:
Omo. Mans tired and confused about this sudden change in exchange rate
My own issue now is that
In those IMM forms I filled.. I stated I had 35kcad available for the period of my studies and my sponsor acc balance was about 38kcad with the old rate oh before june 15th but now with the new rate, my sponsor 38kcad has turn to 28kcad, it won't longer tally with the information I filled on the IMM form..
I have paid almost my full first year tuition deposit of almost 12kcad remaining 6kcad balance , so if IRCC use the new rate the 28kcad would be enough? As my sponsor has properties and means to pay my 2nd year schoolfee and expenses..

Stay positive and don't beat yourself yet, especially when it's still all conjectures for now. It will end in praise!

Kobojunkiee:
1. This is 2023 for crying out loud!

2. So, using the law to my own benefit means I am too emotional? See what still passes as intelligence in Nigeria 2023, no wonder the rich keep using your heads to play ball for there.

What law and agreements are you going on about now boss?

What are you going to sue the pastor for? Has he not accepted to continue the scholarship elsewhere, due to the FX situation?
It was just a gesture to help the boys and "condition" has now changed, yet he has accepted to move them to other schools and you still want his head for that. Haba!

How many times have you sued your government that has failed you severally despite the huge taxes you pay?

Things like this make offering help to people difficult. I agree that the Pastor might have made most of the attention then, but don't forget that most Nigerians were sympathetic with the guys over the manner they were sacked, and he tried to turn around their fortune by sending them abroad. Yeah, it was wrong to have initially abandoned them if that was even true, but he has reached out.

Truth is if the guys had also conducted themselves well, i trust that by now, Nigerians would have rallied round to raise their outstanding school fees and more, but seeing their line of action, nobody is willing to tow that line for them. Well, maybe people like you can rise up tomorrow and set up gofundme for them, so we can see how many people share your line of thought!

However, I condemn the pastor for cursing them. They are just kids and what is that adage in Yoruba about "kids smearing their hands with eba abi na eko".

Mackie1:
No that isn't true! The rate at the date you submitted is what would be used to quantify. "Unless there's a drastic change" .

This is according to IRCC.

What counts as a drastic change is now up to IRCC.

Well, No one is sure about what IRCC will do concerning POF and the new rates. But I shudder to think that our steep fall in naira could very well be interpreted as a 'Drastic Change'. Unfortunately, as @Showyoung guessed, I'm afraid they may decide to adopt the rate as at day of review over application date which appears logical although unfair to applicants who apparently based their projections on the old rates.

Indeed, it will be inhuman to reject applications made before June 14th solely on the basis of insufficiency of the POF (at the new rate) especially if opportunity is not given for an updated statement to atleast match the current rate. Maybe, we can be proactive and start sending updated statements to match new rates via webform? Heavy lumpsum wahala!

I reckon that the fair thing to do is to treat applications before June 14th based on the old rates and the current applications on the new rates. Hopefully, they reason along this line!

Another issue is the wide variation in the daily rates. It was N485 to 1 CAD on the 15th, then N451 to 1 CAD on the 16th. Maybe an average over a period is what they will adopt if the range continues to be this wide.

kweje:
IRCC has its own exchange rate. POF is not calculated at our rates.
Check the link https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/cgi-bin/recgen/er.pl?Language=E

I stand to be corrected.

This rate indicates N485 to 1CAD for Jun 15th. That's a jump from N349 it indicated on the 14th.

Also, Oanda jumped to N379 to 1 CAD from the N349 the previous day.

I hope IRCC will not expect applicants to start using these figures as the basis for computing POF.

DREAMHILS:
Hi all. I need your inputs. My husband applied for sowp with me. He used his old passport which will expire in Dec. He got a new passport before ppr and submitted both the old and new passports when the request came. His new passport was stamped. But both the passport and letter of introduction states his visa is valid till Dec 2023 while mine is valid till Sept 2025.

Please, how can this be resolved in short time?

I think you can just notify IRCC of the issue. However, like someone already said, it will be easily corrected from within Canada. So when you come in, you call IRCC and they will correct it easily. He needs to act immediately he comes in because some employers consider the duration on the work permit for job offering.

All the best!

technix:
It's advisable to apply at the same time if you have the required fund. One year goes so fast.

Just show enough evidence of relationship and home ties.

Infact at this rate that it seems IRCC has entered sleep mode again, it is better to just do family application if the POF is sufficient. But the effect of this FX unification on POF is another matter that will start haunting Japarians now .
Anyway, this thread has been inactive because IRCC has really slowed down. IRCC share PPRs please.

olabisi6438:
How true is this please

I looked at the rates and they are close to what Oanda published too.

A lot of us have been using Oanda with no issue, so i'd rather quote Oanda rate as my source and state the figure i see which can be confirmed by the VO if they choose to verify. However, with this FX Unification thing that is still hazy, I do not know how it will play out later.

jaydave:
You can always check on ur bank site the daily I&E window rate , what it opens with and closes with. You can also see it here daily https://fmdqgroup.com/exchange/
Trading starts at 9am - 4pm

We might see reduction in Japa via study routes with this FX unification issue now! Not good news to foreign students at all!!

Zane2point4:
Maybe the person I quoted earlier didnt provide enough nigerian ties aswell to balance her strong Canadian ties aswell. We dont have her sop and dont kno documents she provided.

Buh i hv seen many ppl simply not mention any ties in canada, its better that way.
Someone here was of the opinion they will find out ,find out how? Are you the only person that has your surname arnd the world.

I do not think the problem was mentioning the relations she has in Canada. The truth is, most of these IMM forms we fill already carry these details. Don't forget that her sister might have listed her in her own application for PR and when she was travelling too. I feel the only snag in her application was mentioning her sister as a co-sponsor when she already had a good balance in her hubby's account, which could have been sufficient for them as self sponsors. Also stating she would stay with her sister was unnecessary, I guess the agent thought it would strengthen her application alas it weakened it. I think she should not waste time seeking JR, rather get GCMS and if she cant wait for that, refire and only limit her mention to the IMM forms.

Chechem:
From my angle, you did everything right, we have similar cases. Yours is your sister, mine is my wife. Many people, even lawyers and immigration consultants that I contacted in canada said my case was impossible, Immigration Consultants in Quora said same thing. I only reapplied so that I can get a rejection letter to claim tuition refund, then guess what? God stood in between...

I added some few new documents anyway, but in all I strongly believe it is God. Why you prepare to reapply, please keep praying and believe in faith, without doubt. There is nothing impossible with God...

You can DM me let me tell you things I added, or check my previous post, you will see documents I submitted. I will advise against JR, its not necessary. Get the gmcs, pray and reapply...

I wish you could be clearer with your own situation and why everybody did not think you had a chance. If your wife was in Canada and you were applying to join her, why would it be an impossible situation? If you don't mind, please share atleast for learning sake. Thank God it ended in praise for you.

OkukuOne:
My brother, sometimes, it is very difficult to assist or comment because the situation is unique or new. Some of us do things without consultation, and thereafter seek advise when we could have done that from the beginnning.

POF for Canada is very important you do not give room for doubts. If you pull out large chunk of money, and later return the same or in bits, it calls for suspicion. Those IRCC guys have seeen cases and I pray you can tell a good story why this happened.

Dear all reading, if you have means of getting money to take care of bills that shows up in between your application, please do so. Touching your POF in btw is risky. I am not saying people do not get away with it, but why jeopardize your chances of getting approval?

Well, at the end, it all depends on your priority and not any.

Good luck!

Boss, No be willingness in most cases...Na condition.

angie88:
It shows they r done with ur file,check other areas like medicals whether they are completed too. If they are, den await ur bvl and after dat, ur ppr

Please how do you know from the tracker if the application is going to be approved or rejected?

Army2022:
I just ran a check on Niagara college and your info is incorrect.
Make sure you get your calculations right before applying oo.
I saw "Business" cost about 34k for the entire 2yrs.
I tried to attach the screenshot here but it couldn't attach.

Without checking, i knew the guy was making a mistake. How can first semester alone be 10K and the whole 2-year programme be 17k. Doesn't add up at all. Niagara college for that matter, a school in Ontario! I even doubt if you can get a regular 2-year program in an Ontario college for less than 20k. I believe one might though, but will be quite scarce.