₦airaland Forum

X-factoria:
You just exposed yourself! Do you know the meaning of vision or being visionary?

Awo's visionary leadership was proven by his drive to educate his people and build institutions. Unlike your own fore-fathers, he would not compete to build blocks and mortals but build men who will build them. He was guided by the Yoruba saying that says "Omo ti a ko ko, ni yio gbe ile ti a ko ta" (meaning the unbuilt/untrained child is the one who will offer the built house for sale).

Some of you kids just come here to open your stinking mouth without guidance. May God forgive your stupidity and ignorance!

django1: Are you people high on something? Which south eastern state is better than ibadan? Is it because people have now made it a norm to be yabbing the city? There's no level of modernity you won't find there, you guys should just STFU !!!

Katsumoto: Awo stopped being premier approximately 53 years ago. I guess the terms 'decay', maintenance', 'obsolete' mean nothing to you. You continue to expose your ignorance and lack of critical thinking. I responded to you against my better judgement. If you can't raise your game, you will go on ignore again. Can't be wasting my time responding to illogical rants.

Please provide what ojukwu wrote about others with regards to competent leadership and administration.

Malawian: how much will it cost the oyo state governor to give a contract to igbo boys to change all the roofing in old ibadan? is he not the same guy building air conditioned toilets? abeg joor.. since awo bequeathed on you fellas the 'most educated" whatever, why cant you guys maintain his legacy?

Katsumoto: Please provide a more neutral assessment. In the mean time, please provide examples of where Zik was praised for his competent leadership like the ones below. In terms of administration, leadership, and vision, you will struggle to find a match for Awo anywhere in Africa.

rukatech: Currently, I do not have one with this spec.
If you have somebody here in US to come to my office and place an order, I will get one for you.

Katsumoto: You provided your personal opinion about the two men and I provided a neutral assessment of both men when they occupied similar leadership positions.

revolt: guy pls fink well,, if ure asking for physical evidence then its a sign of being senile. Did you know the east experienced heavy bombardments during the civil war infact calabar ph owerri umuahia aba etc were all leveled and her u r askn for physical legacies! Its amazing tht this same east tht was heavily bombarded can stand in comparison infact aside lagos and ibadan n mayb abeokuta

MsDarkSkin: WOWWWWW!!
WOW! i am still reading but so far man, this is deep!!

rman: FYI I played for the senior national team of Nigeria 2003, African nations cup in egypt. and I was at the world university games in China 2002. I won't tell you more than that.
I played professionally for more than 12 years and captained a lot of teams locally.
This is an anonymous forum so I won't tell you more than that. I'm also a Yorba man.

You think you know everything, but unfortunately you know nothing and you will never find out because you are arrogant.

A-ZeD:
Emeka Okafor was a monster in college so calling him the best Nigerian prodigy since Hakeem is taking it too far. His numbers are not all that impressive. I see him as a Raja Bell kind of player rather than Dwayne Wade.

ilugunboy: I won't take your words...provide links to your claim by the British

The North also had a demographic leverage over the Southern Regions - by 1963 census figures, it accounted for 53.5%, the Eastern Region 22.3%, the Western Region 18.4%, the Midwestern Region 4.6%, and Lagos Federal Territory 1.2% of the total population of 55.6 million

Aigbofa: There are more Yorubas in Nigeria than ibos anyway. So, it shouldn't surprise anyone there are more of them in the civil service for example.

kettykings: Congratulations for posting the most Idiotic comment ever in Nairaland

What has your inept and half baked Education achieved for you besides killing Nigerian Airways and all other Government parastatal, if you care to know Yorubas Killed Nigerian Airways with their Kleptomania and half baked Education , less fanciful African Airlines are still surviving and expanding operations all over the world like the Ethiopian Airlines , even Ghana Airlines, South African Airlines, Kenyan Airlines and Egypt Air .

Talking Education and achievements in the Diaspora we all know those who have excelled and represented Africa at the IMF, World Bank, International Court of Justice ICJ, Microsoft, NASA, even at the papacy in Rome , Perhaps you could enumerate o n what your Education has brought to you and the Black race rather than rant on the pages of the NET..


Did igbos destroy Nigeria or did they Destroy the east which they later rebuilt who really destroyed the first Republic that made the then Prime minister declare a state of Emergency in the Western Region , who really was the first Nigerian to be convicted and imprisoned for treasonable offence , who was the first head state to embezzle Government money and use it to his farms.

How come all the Companies that were acquired using the Indigensation decree are dead and unprofitable was it igbos that killed them ,

[size=18pt][center]Are we Igbos or "Ibos"?[/center][/size]



The "Ibo" misspelling of the south eastern Nigerian Igbo ethnicnation of almost 32 million people reflect, essentially, a post-colonial hangover of British and Euro-Caucasoid colonial miseducation,misrepresentations, and (mis)pronounciation preference. It is/wasjust easier for the White man/woman to say 'Ibo' rather than'Igbo.' We must remember the late psychiatrist, pan-Africanscholar and activist Franz Fanon's mytho-poetic and insightful wordsin his 1952 book, Black Skin White Masks, that "A man who hasa language [consequently] possesses the world expressed andimplied by that language." Should Igbos and other Africannationalities, incrementally and foolishly give up the core of theircommunal and national identity on the discredited altars ofEuro-Caucasoid racist supremacy and colonial predations? I have tw omodest answers: first is No; and second is No.

By Chido Nwangwu


(December 11, 2001): Regarding the use of the word "Ibo" as opposed to "Igbo" in the commentaries and recent announcements by some of our folks, may I make a few observations.

First, let's state the most important element of this languageadvisory: the erroneous, incorrect usage and blatant dislocation of the Igbo identity and name is the preference for the colonial spelling and reference, lazily spelled as "Ibo." Second, the "Ibo"misspelling reflects, essentially, a post-colonial hangover of British and Euro-Caucasoid colonial miseducation, misrepresentations,incorrect spellings and (mis)pronounciation preference. It is/was just easier for the White man/woman to say 'Ibo' rather than 'Igbo.'

Such language and cultural impositions which are fancifully andfarcically adopted by the colonized natives and the dispirited arestill evident across the African continent, south and central Asia and parts of Latin America where colonialist predation was not only economic but a crude decapitation of the languages, mores, culture and identities of the ethnic nations they invaded and colonized.

Third, and more important, the linguistic history, autography and anthropological identities of the almost 35 million citizens of the enterprising, vibrant, resourceful, unduly intra-antagonistic,capitalistic, religious, and republicanist communities and people who form the Igbo nation show, credibly, that our language and ethnic nation should always be identified and spelt as Igbo.

Note the fact that there's an Igbo alphabet identified as "gb" as distinguishable from "g" and "b"; same for "gw" as distinguishable from "g" and "w". For instance in Nwangwu, which many inattentivenon-Igbo, put forth a wrong, hurried misspelling: Nwangu.

Again, they remove the Igbo alphabet "gw". For the nation, Igbo,the 'gb' is the key.

Many Igbos and other people have mixed up the Igbo identity/name/language/people with this colonial misrepresentation as"Ibo(s)."

We must not dilute the correct spelling(s) of the Igbo nation and people; and in fact ours, individually. Otherwise, we should allgladly celebrate the backwater hatefulness encapsulated in them is spelling of Obigbo and Umumasi as (R)umuigbo and (R)umumasi. It'sthat important and basic, too.

We should not give up any Igbo alphabet and spellings, in this regard, therefore. It is different from abbreviating a long surname or first name.

Immediately after the birth on December 20, 1998, of the Houston octuplets, I believe one of the better things I've contributed to global Igbo interest was factually and materially causing the world's number 1 news agency AP through some of its news staff, especially Mark Barbineck (bless him!) to change the reference to Igbos as"Ibos" as a minimum standard for me to do the interviews with AP(same standard was held up for any other media corporation during mypro-bono (free) international multimedia projection services and newsinterviews I offered to benefit the octuplets and their parents. It has become, thankfully, the AP standards as well as those of almost 30,000 newspapers who take the AP and Reuters' news feed to refer to us as Igbo(s). If your local newspaper does the "Ibo" stuff, kindly write them and demand a correction.


Hopefully, this modest language advisory will set the affirmative,conclusive identification on the issue of whether we are "Ibos" or Igbos. It is, for me, Igbos, sui generis, as a people, an identityand as a language.

We must remember the late psychiatrist, pan-African scholar andactivist Franz Fanon's mytho-poetic and insightful words in his 1952book, Black Skin White Masks, that "A man who has a language[consequently] possesses the world expressed and implied bythat language."

Should Igbos and other African nationalities, incrementally and foolishly give up the core of their communal and national identity on the discredited altars of Euro-Caucasoid racist supremacy and colonial predations? My modest answer is No.

Before some demagogic and ill-informed "native" comes to the defense of the Euro-Caucasian impositions, let's quickly note thatthis is not a debate about language accretion and/or addingconceptual properties and descriptive symbols to enrich our language,or any language, for that matter. For example, I argue we should add the words Computer, Internet, etc to the Igbo language, and regarding same in its contextualized Igbo meaning or word(s).

I'll state, without fear of contradiction that no language,today, is clinically restricted and strictly reflective of itsnational borders. None! Not even the Talibans in their tunnel vision of the world, and cultural phillistinism.

May God continue to enrich the Igbo nation as we protect, project and defend our heritage and identity into the new millennium. I'llclose with the wise words of the same, late African warrior FranzFanon who wrote, "Each generation must discover its mission, fulfillit, or betray it." On whose and which side areyou?
ChidoNwangwu, recipient ofthe Journalism Excellence award (1997), is Founder and Publisher ofUSAfricaonline.com(first African-owned U.S.-based professional newspaper to bepublished on the internet), USAfrica The Newspaper, NigeriaCentral.comand TheBlack Business Journal.

He serves as an adviser tothe Mayor of Houston on international business (Africa), has appearedas an analyst on the CNN, VOA, NPR, CBS News, NBC and ABC newsaffiliates, and South Africa Broadcasting Corporation, SABC.

From: "stephenuche@..." <stephenuche@...>
To: IgboWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 10:20:31 AM
Subject: Re: Thank you! Re: [IgboWorldForum] Igbo not Ibo






Nwanna m Anyanọnụ:



Ka Chukwu mejue okwu gị! Ihe m na-ekwu wụ na amaghị-ama adịghị n'ọnụ mma abụa! (translates. . 'I am sorry, it was a mistake' cannot be claimed on the second matchet cut). We must join hands in this correction. There was a textbook used by 7th Graders in their Social Studies. When I found the use of Ibo instead of Igbo in that book, I copied the pages and wrote a protest letter to the publishers. They apologetically responded and promised to correct it in their next edition.


Dr. Chukwuemeka Uche

Ann Arbor, Michigan

From: "Andrew Anyanonu" <anyanonu@dwsd. org>
To: IgboWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 9:18:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Thank you! Re: [IgboWorldForum] Igbo not Ibo



Thank you all about this IGBO and IBO issue. Let us get to the root cause of this seeming problem.
THE CORRECT OR RIGHT WORD IS IGBO AND SHOULD BE USED AT ALL TIMES. The
British and other Europeans DON'T have the "GB" sound!! Therefore, the "G" was eliminated, resulting
in the word "IBO". The same is true with other letter combinations such as "KP", "KW", "GW".
Of course, as always, there are some salvageable exceptions: "KW" as in [S"Q"UARE] ;[ "Q"ueer];
"GW" as in [ "GW"endolyn] ; all the words in parenthesis are familiar English words with sounds similar
to our IGBO words.

Having said this, please note that I have absolutely nothing against the British or the other Europeans
for that matter. Now that we know, let us do the right thing and use the right words wherever
they come up!! NDI IGBO KWENU!!!!
Ejike

Thank you brother Abraham Madu. We will continue to hammer on this serious error until everybody gets it right. I have, at times, wondered why anybody would not know, by the time one gets into elementary school, or at worse, middle school, that the word is Igbo and not Ibo. Are people waiting to be dragged to court before they can get it?



Again, thank you my brother for being the watchdog!



Chukwuemeka Uche

Ann Arbor, Michigan

From: "Abraham Madu" <abraham.madu@ yahoo.com>
To: igboworldforum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:55:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [IgboWorldForum] Igbo not Ibo



To whom it may concern, kindly correct the spelling of the word Ibo to it's proper spelling "Igbo" when you publish this TIME Almanac again..We the Igbo community all over the world are concerned about this serious error, and want it to be corrected.
We are Igbo people of the eastern Nigeria.
A.A.Madu



Thank you brother Abraham Madu. We will continue to hammer on this serious error

Cogent: I am not interested in your debate. You can shove it.



ARE YOU BLIND? ? ?

WHERE DID I SAY THAT AN OPTOMETRIST IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR?

I NEVER SAID AN OPTOMETRIST IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!!

I NEVER SAID MEDICAL DOCTOR, GO AND REREAD WHAT I WROTE AND STOP PRETENDING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WROTE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG.

I am a Dumbass.

aijaydiva: @ACM10 what qualifies one as a doctor is not the course u studied but the number of years spent in d course of study. Those countries dat that dont license their optometrists as doctors do not spend d same no.of yrs as d doctors of optometry. Nobody here ever said optometrist are medical doctors. They cant be when dey didnt study medicine. They are doctors of optometry. Hence the O.D just like M.D for d medical graduates. Even a pharmacist cld be a doctor of pharmacy without Ph.d just by studying 4 6yrs instead of 5. So Monsieur, i guess u have to have respect for other professions. If everybody in Nigeria is like u, the interprofessional relationship in d health sector wld lead our country to nowhere. BTW optometry is my thing.

OAM4J: After my plead on this thread that Igbo should be used instead of Ibo, We (moderators) got a memo from one of your executives that there is nothing derogatory with the use of Ibo. Nairaland will not want to be seen as the one demonizing/derogating an acceptable name among many Igbos. We were told that there are prominent Igbo sons and daughters who refer to themselves as Ibo.

If all Igbo on Nairaland think the use of Ibo is derogatory, I will advice that your representatives meet and write the Admin and give him the reasons why Ibo is unacceptable. For now Afam and I have no reason/power to delete posts with the use of Ibo or ban someone for using Ibo instead of Igbo.

Thank you.

manny4life: Really?

I'm just curious to know who this executive is that spoke on everyone's behalf, besides, isn't it funny how you say "I will advice that your representatives meet and write the Admin and give him the reasons why Ibo is unacceptable", why does anyone have to explain something that's offensive to them? You guys are really funny, is like a White person asking a black man to explain why the N-word being used on him is offensive.

Collectively, if majority says they don't wanted to be addressed as Ibos rather Igbos, how is that a problem? Perhaps, it looks like the debate hasn't ended after all, while on it, Yoruba reps should give the Admin reasons why Yoruba's or other terms are offensive and unacceptable... smh

Cogent: In short let me place the information here because you might still come to this thread and insist that you are not spreading misinformation and that Optometrists are not Doctors.

From Wikipedia;
Optometry or Doctors of Optometry is a health care profession concerned with the health of the eyes and related structures, as well as vision, visual systems, and vision information processing in humans. Optometrists (also known as ophthalmic opticians outside the United States and Canada are trained to prescribe and fit lenses to improve vision, and to diagnose and treat various eye diseases. In the United States and Canada optometrists are Doctors of Optometry and are held to the same legal standards as any physician

Read more here ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optometry