₦airaland Forum

eggheaders: from your post you haven't be to ibadan.a tribalist that has a Ben akwabueze and a Joe igboekwe in his cabinet you must be a joke.please name just one non eastern in the cabinet of all east state.

ODUA_NEGRO: why would you not deny it.....it is an embarassment on SE generally, not just Enugu.

ODUA_NEGRO: Yoruba settlers in Enugu state were given land by a former governor to build a social cultural center or market (something like that), well after that governor left the Yorubas were dispossed of the land and no other land has been given as replacement.

Let everyone go back to his fatherland before this damn country turn 100

T9ksy: [i]
Btw, what part exactly did Banjo played in the jan. 66 coup?

T9ksy: And what does Major Ademoyega knows exactly about the coup, itself.

Considering the clime then, Ademoyega was unbelievable stu.pid at best( or just too plain niave) to swallow the story fed him

by Major Nzeogwu to the effect that a bunch of ibo boys were willing to risk their lives executing a coup just so they can

install awolowo, a yoruba man- a man their leaders helped jailed on thrumped-up charges- as the new PM.

Ademoyega was infact the last recruit into the "inner circle".

Donlittle: hey guys, please help me o. i am doing a project of the civil war, have being tryiing to figure out who attacked first? biafra or nigeria? heard biafra attacked first at ore, but cant find proof. dont wanna be bias. thanks

cdoffx: read "why we struck". Major Ademoyega wrote it himself except you want to insuniate he was paid by the ibos to write the book

T9ksy: Source, please.

T9ksy: Oh well, the joke is on you as i have only regurgitated the warp logic your fellow brothers have been

offering as their rationale for refusing to admit that the jan. 1966 was an ibo coup, i.e as in,Nzeogwu did not see himself as

an ibo man but as a nigerian plus that he spoke fluent hausa and always dress accordingly, too.

T9ksy: And who were these 2 coupists ostensibly killed by Ironsi's b/guards?

Names please, not "my maternal g/mother told me that ironsi's maid's 2 cousin told her........." BS o!

We want Fact not beer parlour gist.

dayokanu: So what are you saying? Nzeogwu and his Igbo friends killed other regional leaders and spared theirs.

Whats the excuse?

dayokanu: ^^ Tomakint why wasnt any politician or soldier of Ibo extraction even targetted or attacked at all

ODUA_NEGRO: the same authors whose accounts of biafra you dismissed as lies. look at you!

Ojiofor: You are very correct my brother,Fajuyi was a marked man just like Ironsi,BTW,which Yorubaman will die for his son talkless of giving his life for an Igboman.Ironsi ADC Captain Nwankwo narrated how they were both arrested and killed and how he managed to escape there was no resistance from Fajuyi neither did he shoot one bulet in defense of his guest.

Andre Uweh: There is nothing to suggest that Fajuyi betrayed Ironsi. I wonder where that comes from. Ironsi's ADC was interviewed sometime ago and he didn't say that Fajuyi betrayed Ironsi.
Fajuyi had no reason to die. The coupist were after Irinsi and Igbo military officers, yet a neutral Yoruba was killed. He could have been killed because he did not consent to the arrest of Ironsi in Yorubaland.
Check out:
https://www.nairaland.com/1076677/real-story-how-lt.col-fajuyi

babapupa: Should we celebrate and vote for people who are not doing their job and make them the president of Nigeria like you people saddled us with the miserableness and incompetent clown in Aso Rock?


Why don't you people keep quiet for a change?

Syncan: A C Millan10 I congratulate you guys for handing the magic wand over to Real madrid

Syncan: It all depends on who you decide to believe. A lot of water has passed under the bridge.

Biafra rep: Nice question fr0m you Mazi Andre Uweh, honestly it keeps baffling me why such a selfless, 'detribalised' and principled man like Fajuyi, who died for a cause he believed in (talk about one being a martyr!) would not be immortalized, again this brings to the fore, the tragedy of the Nigerian state and our values. The federal government both past and present, as well as the Yorubas, more or less consider Fajuyi as one who was stupid for not to handing over Aguiyi Ironsi and so got what was coming to him! Igbos on our own see him as a Yoruba man who should be honoured by his own people. I believe we should honour him.

mafifle: As far as i know, Igbos have ever remained greatful to Fajuyi for defending Aguyi Ironsi. He has always been an Igbo champion. Every Igbo man will always have good words for Fajuyi even though there has not been any physical display of such honour.

My personal comments.

Over to our would be Ezes.

Andre Uweh: To the 3 contestants: Onlytruth, Alex and Biafra rep.
Do you think it's proper for Ndigbo to honour a Yorubaman-Fajuyi who died defending Aguiyi Ironsi an Igbo head of state?

wellmax: Oga let mee remind you that this is not the first street light in Lagos, so its not just a hype. Secoudly can you please mention the streets with lights in Enugu.

blink182: Fashola for President.

texazzpete: As someone said earlier, you don't find it suspicious or even curious that only the portion of the coup against the South East leadership was 'badly executed'?
Either way, it matters not what happened in the execution. Bottom line was the SE leaders escaped murder while prominent and revered leaders from other regions were slaughtered...and that had a profound influence on the behavior of many Northerners. Surely even you can see this.
I've attended to this question. Zik was not in the country at the time of the coup. MI Okpara escaped the coup by chance. By the way, the coup led to the death of 12 politicians and officers, 2 coupists and 1 unfortunate woman(Mrs Ademelegun). Only Ahmadu Bello can be described as prominent and revered, others were more or less pretenders.



I think your problem is with comprehending written English. 'Common practice' does not neccessarily mean it must have happened in Nigeria. There had been many cases of coups in several other countries in the world...and in all armies the punishment for treason against the commander-in-chief of the Armed forces is always extremely severe and often death.
Spare me your BS! We are talking of Nigerian context.



A cursory look at your dictionary will tell you that 'conspiring to overthrow a Government' is an accepted meaning for the word 'sedition' that Damola used.
Your problem is worse than I imagined.

se·di·tion [si-dish-uhn]
noun
1.
incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2.
any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.

con·spire
/kənˈspī(ə)r/ Make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act.
(of events or circumstances) Seem to be working together to bring about a particular result, typically to someone's detriment.

There are differences between "incite" and "make". This is like telling me that Tunde Bakare whose speech is meant to incite the populace can be compared to the action of Oladipo Diya who conspired to overthrow Abacha.

No offense meant, but what school did you graduate from? Your mastery of English language is suspect.
This is unnecessary! Poor mastery of English language does not make me less intelligent. No doubt, you are more fluent in English language than me and you have more vocabulary in your armamentarium than an average NL. But that does not take anything away from my competence. A Chinese is not less intelligent because of his poor mastery of English language.


No suspicion or raised eyebrows from you that the random 'posting' to prisons favored only the fellow from the SE?
This is bullshyt! What does SE stand to gain by posting prisoners to the region?


So while you demand 'evidence' for the very plausible claim by the OP that Nzeogwu was training recruits for the Biafran army, you happily cling to unsubstantiated claims that Ojukwu had a hand in Nzeogwu's death.
More importantly, once again you display your shameful failings in comprehending written English. The OP was making a case that Nzeogwu who Achebe tries to dismiss as an 'Igbo in name only' was fully allied with Biafra. Whether Ojukwu had a role in his death or not, the FACT is that Kaduna Nzeogwu was killed in action fighting for Biafra. That was the point Damola was trying to make and your jibe about 'Yoruba Analysts' has nothing to do with anything.
No one comprehends English better than you

Damola's point is that the man fought and died for Biafra. Your rebuttal to that point is a resounding failure and a red herring.
If you have a little gray matter in your brain, you will know that I'm not contesting this point. Bros you are fighting your shadow. . .




The OP indicates the coup was led by officers from the South East. I don't think anyone has ever insinuated that everyone of the coup plotters were South Easterners.
Also worth noting that Victor Banjo's name should probably not be on that list as unlike the others, he always proclaimed his innocence. Either way, that scarcely matters.
Epic fail! Mr. Comprehension, the OP wrote "Igbo coup". Your defense is weak and it makes you look pathetic

In summary your 'rebuttal' showed nowhere near the level of wit and research that the OP displayed in his critique of Achebe's book. More worryingly, either from mischief or from plain challenges with English, you seem to have completely misconstrued many of Damola's words.
Yours is even laughable. By the way, what prevents you from making your comment based on your own research? Why should you mastur.bate on another person's work?
No doubt, I have challenges in English language; mind you that Igbo language is my mother tongue. So feel free to correct me.

Nowhere is this disappointing trait more evident in this your response to where the OP said

Five, during the Aburi negotiations, why was full reprieve for the coup plotters put on the table?



The term 'full reprieve for the coup plotters put on the table' does not mean that the coup plotters sat down at the table
Sorry to burst your bubble, Ojukwu went to Aburi with few aide. None of them were coup plotters

dayokanu: The coupist who were so on point in every other region suddenly lost their marksmanship and bungled it when in their own region.

Im sure a 5yr old can call bullshiit on that statement