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Footstradamus:
Woah, inflation is killing us in this country

I have always wondered and permit me to pick your brain on this, what is the cost savings on sliding windows in lieu of casement windows, lets use the 4ft by 4ft you posted, if i decided to go sliding on that with burglary what would it cost?

Tnx in advance

bobkezel:
How much do these cost?

hslbroker2:
all I just want is to pay my debt, that is why I brought the matter here, I don't want too much talk with him, because he can't insult you or even molest you, how can him went ahead to collected additionally N25k for the glasses the client did not broke before he went to fix the broken glasses, he was the one that broke the glasses not focusmind and Edward make sure he didn't go back and fix that windows for over 7 months until he collected N25k for the damages not cause by the client before he fix the broken glasses, and he thought people here are fools.

He need to return that N25k back to focusmind because was not meant to pay for damages not cause by him, Edward broke the glasses, and he suppose to fix it by his own pocket, he runaway from the fixing for 7 months until he collected additionally N25k from my client because he have access to him and he knew I was indisposed.

so anything he tell the client his what the client will do.

My point is why did you collect that N25k, if you have integrity and fear of God Edward, are u suppose to wait for 7 months close to a year to repair what you spoilt and still collected money for doing it. it is unfair.

dapotemi:
I was really sad reading focusmind submission here. I just had to imagine myself in his shoes. It's just sad to imagine!

The whole deal is ALMOST a total loss to him, you can also imagine the loss in terms of TIME and ENERGY he must have invest in this whole thing, to get a product that is of low quality....Dealing with artisans in Nigeria can be draining, it can take away your soul. You hardly see a sane one this days!
My wife gave a carpenter, just on my street 120k since oct for her kitchen cabinet, till today the guy disappear, this is someone we have known for two years.
Please, what can 120k change in a man's life? with two children o! On this platform, i called an architect and we agreed on a certain amount for a 3 bed plan. We agreed on payment. Later i called and demanded for some modification, he said no problem but i will add more money, we agreed on what to add and he proceed. After few days he called that the modification cannot work due to the size of the land and he propose another type of modification, again we agreed. Later again, he called that all modification (mine and his) cannot work and that we should revert back to the first plan, grudgingly i said okay just revert back to our initial plan, the very first one. Abeg, is it not expected that we revert back to the old price that we initially agreed on. Na so this guy finish work seize my plan o, asking for balance. I told him balance is for modification, now there is no modification so which balance. We almost resort to threat and he later bulge. I dont know how you guys do it o, but using people online is tough. I'm planning to use another one again, but fear dey catch me. My job is tough, I dont have time, i dont have energy.

Focusmind, i will rely on one of your statement, compassion triumph logic, pls find him something, i dont expect you to pay 120k though. The truth is, this guys needs to BE RESPONSIBLE AND KNOW THAT NO BE EVERY JOB PERSON THEY COLLECT. He needs to bear some responsibility.
The only reason am appealing to focusmind is because of the health of the other guy. Remember Ada jesus story on this platform. May we all live long without any regret of what we should have done earlier. Focusmind, na beg i beg you. Please.

PrinceLat:
I am a very private person, in short I don’t know why I am doing this, as I have never mediated in anything nairaland banters.

But this situation touches me so much ( focusmind, adedward and hslbroker2)
I am not here to apportion blame or judge who did what and who is right or wrong, but to plead with the parties to give peace a chance.

Truly focusmind had the intention of paying 300k for the job,
Hslborker couldn’t deliver based on the agreed date,
He contracted it instead to Adedward (due to his been indisposed)

Adedward took on the job but with a higher price margin, communicated it to Hslborker, He in turn communicated it to focusmind, in between this back and forth there was a verbal agreement for the job to be done with knowledge of the client ,albeit with some (just do it , but I will do what is in my mind).

Based on the above facts from the three of them, it can be deduced that , truly from all indications Hslbroker messed up on the delivery date, but made up for it by using his personal funds to get the job done, with the knowledge of the client.
The additional money given to Adedward is for the alteration in the job (nets and broken glass) but look at it from this angle.

Hslbroker did not use the money instead to treat himself or for other things and say because he was sick he couldn’t deliver, he made efforts. In the process its obvious he has now run at a loss (420k he gave adedward that the client was aware of minus 300k the client gave him) meaning he is at a loss of 120k, bearing in mind that he didn’t make profit from this job.

I just want to plead that the number of months that has elapsed is enough punishment for him loosing the said amount , but the good thing is the job was done, client has received the job with the knowledge that it was done at a greater amount than he initially paid for.

So please Focusmind I plead with you to find a way to reimburse him for the loss (God bless you more than your expectations) and just look at what he has gone thru while he was ill. (it’s a plea)

A wise man once said, what is necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man/person/people to look on and do nothing.

Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong.......

this is just a humble submission, times are hard, money is not easy to see and i understand everybody is feeling it.

Lemme borrow the popular slang here,
Please I come in peace th

MMotimo:
This is a simple matter.

Contract stated complete in 7 days or refund the #300k. By the 5th day (at the latest), hslbroker would have known he could not meet his end of the bargain and returned the #300k jeje. End of contract, no questions asked. Sorry, but giving adedward more than you were being paid is very poor judgment. Asking your client to give you extra after the 7 day condition was not met and months elapsed is just

Only piece missing here is whether or not there is documented evidence of the 7 day contract condition. If there was not, then both parties goofed and you could argue that they should both share the cost of their oversight. That said, focusmind already coughed out an additional #75k to adedward so hasn’t he already paid a price?

Adedward appears to be the winner here, #120k + #75k .

Any “elders” that want to support hslbroker should please contribute money under humanitarian considerations to give him, especially since he has been ill - OR - focusmind can give him money if he’s feeling generous but not by compulsion.

KolaShangOne:
Have you forgotten Focusmind paid 75k to Adedward again? That means he will be spending 435k for a job initially quoted 300k. If he was a contractor, that's huge variation for him.

I think its time for Oga @Adedward to tall about these monies.

Also, Oga @Hslbroker claims he wanted to refund @focusmind but he didnt accept. Is this true?

hslbroker2:
I have seen some comments on here claiming I am @mountmoriah, am not but his my twins brother and it'a not a crime to be born twins.

Whoever have an issue with me should talk directly with me and leave my twins brother out of my own business, his doing his own business am doing mine, I will start addressing every comments and threads my name apear on this forum one after the other.

Thanks.

I know what I have contributed to this forum over 14 years ago.

I have satisfied some people here, and some we had a little fallout due to one circumstances or the other, if @focusmind don't have gave this job to @Adedward now, it is my name he will shouting here, I was open him, i told him about my predicament, I also told him, am outsourcing this work out to another nairalander's

If he was not aware that I outsource this windows out now to @adedward he won't know AdEdward is part of the artisans that destroy the life of the contractors that took project and give it out and the executors end up doing otherwise at longrun who carries the blames the contractor.

chimexdnice1:
I want to say a big thank you to Mr Adedward. I am really impressed with your work (aluminum windows) on my project and your professionalism. Even without meeting you in person, you delivered on our agreed time and offered valuable advice. Mr Adedward is trustworthy and dependable. I recommend him to anyone wanting to do aluminum windows because with him you are safe. I will definitely do more jobs with you in the nearest future. Weldone sir.

jhorjhor:
Please does anyone know the dimension for this kinda window

amosblisz:
I'll contact you pretty soon ��

amosblisz:
No negotiation, is way too expensive o and where are you based?

KolaShangOne:
What do you think?

My Ogas @spyder880 @abdulwastecx @segzy14 @n3xt @mufutau55 @Egunmogaji2 and everyone else..

What do you think about using stamped concrete floor indoors? It is definitely cheaper than using tiles.

TheNeededShock:
Lol it's mercy and also blackrock, a multi billion dollar investment bank and one of the largest in the world and biggest borrower to the United States....wally was a senior advisor and also sat on their board before his nomination, and also influenced some investment decisions made in nigeria by the bank. Blackrock is a big sponsor of the DNC and the Biden campaign....so it's a combination of mercy and other factors.

jeyem:
Please how does this people get all this connection! Congratulation mr adeyemo

Dadbestfreind:
Congratulations to him

amosblisz:
No negotiation, is way too expensive o and where are you based?

amosblisz:
No negotiation, is way too expensive o and where are you based?

amosblisz:
No negotiation, is way too expensive o and where are you based?

chimexdnice1:
Mr Adedward.... greetings to you sir.

topsy23:
Good morning to everyone from this side

amosblisz:
How much is this frameless casement window?

MrOkenwa:
Chief, Whether the job was given to you directly or you took it by proxy, a caveat is being attached to your name here and that should matters to you more than anything else.
The client has been patronizing artisans here and shouldn’t be made to regret his decision.
The alleged contractor has resurfaced here recently( or his mentee) so he’s not totally out of reach.
I know you can get this matter resolved, pls do.

For the records, you’re a very good artisan and I never regret engaging you in my projects.
Your after-service maintenance is equally commendable.

So my house was burgled in February by thieves, which left 6 windows and their nets vandalized. The lead bricklayer that built the house took money before he could go and assess the level of damage done to the windows, same with the welder that constructed the burglary proof.
Adedward sent his boys to fix the 6 windows and their nets on our preferred day, without even billing us.
Keep it up man.

Focusmind:
Your glasses could not be seen anywhere when there are aluminium people everywhere? You said we should get someone to fix it and you would reimburse the person and you went awol.

More than 10 months, you were still looking for the grey glasses? Bro, you never had the mind to fix it and it was written all over you.

I serve clients as well in my trade and I do go extra mile to rectify issues no matter how it came about. You are here defending the indefensible.

Focusmind:
Just listen to yourself. Zero integrity!

Agreed that HSL Broker sublet the contract to you, did he ask you to deliver broken glasses? You did the job yourself, loaded them yourself and sent your boys to deliver and mount them.

You even called to request for extra cash to cover the large size of the net because of the size of the windows which I wired to you and yet you delivered a short-size net, insufficient to cover the window area.

As if that was not enough, your burglary had empty pipe without iron! Bro, don't drag your name further to the mud.

You promised to come and rectify all these yourself. You collected a job from HSL and deliver broken and cracked glasses. Was it HSL that delivered the cracked glasses. Did he ask you to deliver cracked glasses.

Please own up and stop messing up your name.

Focusmind:
Lucky you bro! Lucky you! I wasn't lucky with Adedward as you were.

He delivered broken windows to me, incomplete net size and worst of it, put an empty white pipe as burglary without iron! Yes, you heard me right, white pipe without an iron in one of my large windows he supplied.

I have been asking him to come and rectify this for the past 7 months. He kept shifting the goal post. He told me to get someone, may be another aluminum person to estimate the cost of fixing those things mentioned and he would reimburse the aluminum guy. He was given the quote of what it would cost to change the broken glasses, put the correct window net size and replace the empty pipes he put as burglary, but he vehemently refused, saying it was high and that he would come himself or send someone to fix them.

Bro, we have been on that since. He hasn't yet come, neither has he sent anyone. Series of messages were sent to him to know the time he would be coming but he refused to answer, neither did he reply my call.

I am not here to rubbish Adedward as it is not in my character. I always exercise patience, even with my workers and my subordinates. I give people time to correct themselves and make amends. However, I hate it when I am being taken for granted.

I will keep using people from this site for my project. I have had fantastic guys worked on my projects from this site.

Notwithstanding, I am still weighing my option and watching him on 3D. I am waiting for his rebuttal and challenge, if he is up to it.

Dennis3D:
So sorry about that @Focusmind
Ade, kindly attend to this.
Or let's talk about on whatsapp or direct call.
Thanks.

Dennis3D:
So sorry about that @Focusmind
Ade, kindly attend to this.
Or let's talk about on whatsapp or direct call.
Thanks.