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olofofo:
@adewest

do you have any idea if the art package on hotbird is available on the 2.4m dish in lagos. also can you just try and go through the channels that you feel will be available with the 2.4m dish that is not motorized.

also is there any package openable by echolink thats show the premiership, la liga and the italian league.
what's on intelsat 707?

ADEBOSUN:
@adewest
please give a detailed breakdown of precise cost and model plus make of everytin that went into the installation
[/quote For the dish,jerk,scaller,psner,pole,cement and receiver,u should know better.But for the base construction-2K,while the w/manship is undiscloseable till eyes are 4 or call on the 070.

toxnaija:
adewest,
please give me a call tonight or tmrw morning.I have just finished with the news at LTV so I can visit the ocation in Ikeja right now or tmrw morning after my 10am recording.it seems u always come up with some unbelievable discoveries.like i always tell others on this thread,we should learn to allow others prove their discoveries.I would love to meet you and also check the set-up.i am waitng please.08023337877.

all,
see me see trouble ooo.i was almost having a public brawl with an installer in Abeokuta yesternight.my echostar disceq switch got burnt after my african grey parrot eat my satellite cable w3a.my installer in abeokuta directed me to one of his colleagues in town.he decided to sell a N300 disceq to me for N2500.I told him it was outrageous.He was mad that people like us spoil business for them.we exchanged hot words.

badaru1:
Adewes
This your post has k leg inside o,the reason why I doubt your post is that,you can't get pas10 c and Itv on the same c-band Lnb,one need dielect the other one doesnt. It is not possible to get nile on motorise in place like lagos,you know I know even in far north where the signal is high,on motorise you have to reduce some satellites to allow others to move. If you tell me that you got them independent of others them I may agree. So always tell people the exact of what you got. This is not a show man forum,it is mature minds forum.

olofofo:
@all

this adewest fellow might be one sat tracking guru or might jut be another "NUT CASE", what i find really odd is the fact that he needs to go back to bauchi to go and get 2.4m dish to use in lagos, i find that really really hard to understand.

Also, how come he disappears after his post, especially when important questions are coming up. I really do not know what to make of this guy yet.

maddoxoj:
On the Nigcomsat-1 issue, let me just say that I predicted it at the start that it was going to be a massive failure. However, what just happened to the bird was far from my mind when I made that “unpatriotic’ prediction. I don’t know if the Nigerian government asked questions before going into that venture. The satellite business is a closed market at the up-stream level (owning satellites and transponders). To get a communication satellite in orbit you need to build it at no less than $250 million, next you have to get a rocket to attach it to for propelling into space at another tidy sum, then you have to get them on a launch vehicle either on land or sea. All of these are in the range of tens of millions $ to get done. Being such a capital intensive venture it, therefore, forces the manufacturers and some major clients to pool resources to get the birds up and running.

Satellite client companies like Globecast, Canalsat, RRS, etc. are nominally service providers and, theoretically speaking, do not own the satellites but you find out that they have invested a lot of money in the manufacture and deployment of satellites owned by fleet operators like Intelsat, Eutelsat, New Sky Satellite (NSS), etc. Sometimes, they could inject up to half of the cost of a satellite prior to its launch and their investment is converted to ownership of a given number of transponders on the same bird (or even future birds in some instances). These companies have been in business for decades and pretty much cover every inch of ground on the planet. So, whatever your satellite need may be anywhere in the world they can handle it with ease. This scenario has made it quite impossible for any new sat owners to break into that level of the market because the big boys can offer you anything cheaper than any newcomer can attempt and most of the contracts are quite long-term. Governments normally launch military or other special purpose satellites, with the exception of India (with their Insat fleet), Pakistan (Paksat fleet) and one or two other countries that have built Communication satellites for little or no profit.

Nigcomsat was meant as a commercial (for profit) satellite which means it has to compete with this cartel that run Clarke’s belt like their private backyard. Even NTA bulked at the price Nigcomsat put on their TPs. That’s why NTA is still on Intelsat and had no plans of moving to Nigcomsat in a hurry. Every other prospective client either had a better long-term commitment elsewhere or could get the same services much cheaper elsewhere. With due diligence and consideration, Nigcomsat should never have been ventured into by the Nigerian government. Instead, they should have shared the money to Nairlanders to get larger compounds, bigger dishes and better quality receivers, LNBs, etc. to track and crack as many birds as they like.

Now, as to what happened to the bird. Launching a satellite is a very tricky business. Accidents can happen during manufacture, handling, transportation, launch and manoeuvring into orbit. Some may be noticed on time and others may be noticed too late. If the rocket has not blasted the bird into space already, repairs or damage control can be done if not, to God be the glory. Apparently, Nigcomsat’s problem is from the fuel section. To remain in geosynchronous (stationary) orbit the satellite makes use of a positioner which is run by electricity. Also the TPs (transponders) are powered by electricity in order to function properly. The electricity on satellites is usually provided by two sources: Solar power and Electric generators (yes, like that one you use when NEPA are on duty).

***NOTE*** A few satellites run exclusively on generators.

The generators are provided with enough fuel to last for 5 to 15 years (that’s how the lifespan of a satellite is calculated) depending on their intended use. During sunlight the bird is powered by solar, leaving the generator running on low power after sunlight the generator goes full-on. If anything goes wrong with the solar power section the satellite would still be ok because it would run now only on the generator but the fuel would run out quicker and that translates to a shorter life-span for the satellite. However, if anything happens to the generator, yawa don gas be that!! Every electronic component of the satellite would shut down: TPs would go off and the satellite would lose orbital integrity and stray (i.e. the satellite would depart from its assigned orbit) because the positioner would have failed also. The problem can come from anywhere, could be big or small. Ordinary carburettor or fuel pump failure can mean the end of a $300million project. This is not far from what happened to OBJbird (the baptismal name for Nigcomsat-1).

Has this type of thing happened before? Yes!!!!!!! So many times, just that many of us may not notice. That was what killed the last Insat (Indian satellite) and one other Intelsat (I think Intelsat-14 or so). Nigcomsat-1 was even lucky to have breathed for 18 months because these other birds fell back to earth like stones almost as soon as they were launched. Many Chinese and “Neo-Industrialised” countries’ made satellites are doing quite fine. However, knowing Naija people and the Chinks, anything is possible. They could have cut a few corners which has landed us here. Anyway, we are looking for volunteers to join us on a Chinese made spacecraft to go and look for our lost OBJbird. If you’re interested please contact me. We would be carrying spare parts to repair the missing satellite as well as the spacecraft (in case it develops it own fault there), me I want to return alive.

olofofo:
@enigma

all i get right no are on intelsat 10-02 and it's on cband; nile channel, pentagon and bbc audio. i was of the opinion that the rest were out of reach for my 1.8 motoried

olofofo:
how can anyone doubt it?

chuk101:
Thanks olofofo for your info on rdv , actually, i tried to locate that bird this night with no succes, i live in owerri , could you kindly tell me the size of dish i could use, and where and how i will positon it , thank you

badaru1:
Do you know that there is an adult tv on eutelsat 3? This channel that is together with msnbc,psat is a 24hrs adult channel,the encription is via access and the card is available in nija. For further info contact me

captainus:
@ sathob it's true, madam's movies is non negotiable. I think for nilesat the least u should start with is 2.4m.after several attempts i'm yet to get any tp on nilesat with my 1.8m.but i know nothing is impossible