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samsononyilo:you are a fool for putting of these .instead of you to let us come together against common enemy you are citing another insurrection .what do you guys gain in division whicch Muslims are in support ? This is not Islam I swear |
35824L:when was the battle .please remind us lol.Abeg shut up |
naptu2:Awon were dem no fit fight govt but they can use much energy on this .fight for your right and stop rubbish ranting.wasted energy. Imagine people are been kidnapped none of this useless body stand up against government but dem Dey fight Baba ijesha .uselessn people |
Abdul05:becareful .I hope it’s not Muslim this time ☺️ ? |
paulolee:thank God he’s not.They can tagged him terrorist . |
VeeVeeMyLuv:Who is the terrorist .Did you read it very well .One Igbo guy gave them the job not religion thing.everything is religion .No single sense to differentiate human and religion .every act will be related to religion .you guys are more cruel in your religion self and culprit will still be n church todayv |
Felicity001:0 8 1 8 1 8 6 9 9 9 2. |
Felicity001:dm me on Ig learntotradecars |
Mikehot:Look at rubbish from coming out of your mouth .Is Adesina not a Christian or is it not part of same administration.what’s has Muslim got to do with this ?mumu .if you are tired of the world Muslim it’s better to leave the world because you can’t escape seeing and feeling them everywhere around ,be sensible for once about religion . |
GOTVee:I like you jawe.you are very sensible not like some religious bigot here on nairaland.God bless you.If it were to be some fools they will say learnt it from Prophet Muhammad;(S.A.W)God bless you |
hollah123:Hes right .i could remember vividly when he was celebrating his 60th birthday.We heard late ajimobi saying so I am older in age than the leader .Tinubu stories is everywhere I don’t think it need any proof . |
booscy:Lol ....They are Christian if course let’s see what some useless folks will comment here .i know they will never talk and if it’s were to be Muslim they will start attacking us and asking useless and moronic question. |
GeneralPula:but they are just experiencing the surge lately not like Nigeria that you must not sleep with your 2 eyes closed .i think the guy village people are really missing him ,he should just come back . |
Asgard13:i hope we can fight it out |
seunmsg:When you small you can’t be big that’s I guess it’s your position to Life .You see him as the only person on Earth to rule .What about you ?i pity if jagavaban can still be thinking of President then there’s problems |
yungmill:who is m o r o n .Go and ask your papa the question or even your mad leader for church .i will like to engage with more sensible students.if Islam to you is a cult let it be .we are getting good morals there not dining with devil and money mongers you called pastor and if you remove th J from jesus it remain ESU ,it means Devil so your religion is devilish in all ramifications.Dont doubt .im beginning to think I i hope you are not a pastor .i think I’m bring your prey back to life here on nairaland.i can see you are very pained .Pele Omo irakiran |
[quote author=shadeyinka post=100464861]Muslims and Lies! Muslims have always insisted that they only fight a war of defence not aggression. Note the wikipedia you quoted and I will highlight some portion for you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar MOTIVE: Why did the Moslems ATTACK/LAY A SIEGE against the Jews? 1. Muslim sources accuse Jews living in Khaybar of a plan to unite with other Jews from Banu Wadi Qurra, Taima', Fadak as well as Ghatafan Arab tribe to attack Madinah. 2. Jewish tribes reportedly arrived in Hijaz in the wake of the Jewish-Roman wars and introduced agriculture, putting them in a culturally, economically and politically dominant position. Greed of Moslems is the cause Who Attacked First? Answer: The Moslems. This was an offensive war NOT a defensive war. ** I forgot, Attack is the best form of Defence! What was tthe objective of the Moslems? 1. They want the Tribute : The Jews of Khaybar finally surrendered after seeing no way out and were allowed to live in the oasis on the condition that they would give one-half of their produce to the Muslims. FInally, the Muslims expelled a people who worship the Monotheistic God Yahweh even though they have always through taqqiya insisted that they served the same God with the Jews! There is no Pastor here: I have just used the Wiki Post you shamelessly . So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done? She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but |
shadeyinka:Where was it mentioned even from the story you try to manipulate.See there’s you can never understand about prophet if you are not been truthful.where was it mentioned he did of poison and even your story confirmed him to be prophet whilst you never accept . |
yungmill:oh you still here Olodo of nairaland how May I help .Were omo ijo esu oni iro aye |
shadeyinka:You are just confusing yourself .you can’t turn the truth to lies .read through yourself and stop been sentimental.your sources is google or Wikipedia .this is the only source you can understand and it has given you the true picture yet you still thinking manipulation you were programmed to do .O boy gerrout .ole where is the Islamic source by you or your pastor |
yungmill:Usually if you are under a spell of lies ,the truth will be like anti body on you .Now you have seen the truth about the lies programmed on you ,you started blabbing.Pele omo irakiran .Between you and me .who is omo ale .You are now and it’s very clear . |
zionzoe:How would categorise this .defensive or offensive war .im trying to educate nairaland how cruel you guys are and trying to promote religious crisis. Muslim sources accuse Jews living in Khaybar of a plan to unite with other Jews from Banu Wadi Qurra, Taima', Fadak as well as Ghatafan Arab tribe to attack Madinah.[7] Scottish historian William Montgomery Watt notes the presence in Khaybar of the Banu Nadir, who were working with neighboring Arab tribes to protect themselves from the Islamic community in Medina who had earlier sent into exile the Jewish tribes for violating the terms of the Charter of Medina and for conspiring to kill Muhammad.[8][9][10] Italian orientalist Laura Veccia Vaglieri claims other motives might have included the prestige the engagement would confer upon Muhammad among his followers, as well as the booty which could be used to supplement future campaigns.[11][12] The Jews of Khaybar finally surrendered after seeing no way out and were allowed to live in the oasis on the condition that they would give one-half of their produce to the Muslims. Jews continued to live in the oasis for several more years until they were expelled by caliph Umar. The imposition of tribute upon the conquered Jews served as a precedent for provisions in the Islamic law requiring the exaction of tribute known as jizya from Dhimmi subjects in areas under Muslim rule, and confiscation of land belonging to non-Muslims into the collective property of the Muslim community. Reference Wikipedia.i use Wikipedia or google to confirm the lies been impeded by all your fake Pastors with all their lies. How the battle killed Prophet Muhammad SAW.Ask your fake lecturer or pastor prophet Muhammad died of natural course and blissful death .And prophet Muhammad was a peaceful person .try to search deep about him and stop listening to fake stories to keep you in church . |
Vaughanlanrewaj:what about people that helped him too ?he finished them politically because of greed .infact they are more than people he helped . |
yungmill:lol he pain you .truth is bitter you Better wake up before your pastor milk you dry otherwise he will program |
yungmill:oloshi omo ira Kiran.you better wake up so that you won’t fall mugu for your pastors with all these lies programmed on you guys .were |
yungmill:Did Prophet Muhammad attack innocent trade caravans to loot them? No. Prophet Muhammad(sa) forbade offensive attacks of all forms. He only permitted fighting in self-defense, and specifically forbade attacking innocent trade caravans. During the time of the Prophet(sa), Arabs largely earned their living by trade with nations in the north then known as Syria, now divided into many smaller countries. The trade routes from Mecca towards north passed near Medina. Arabs also conducted local trade from one town to another. Critics allege that Prophet Muhammad(sa) began raiding the camel caravans of Arab traders travelling between Mecca and other Arab towns and oases. Some critics claim that Prophet Muhammad(sa) organized as many as eighty-two raids, personally leading over twenty, and cite the Qur’an 2:217 [1] as the “justification.” We begin by presenting the full verse in question: “Fighting is ordained for you, though it is repugnant to you; but it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you like a thing while it is bad for you. Allah knows all things, and you know not.” [2] In this verse, the Holy Qur’an reminds Muslims that, due to the Meccan’s massive hostilities against them, their thriteen years of non-violent resistance in Mecca and peaceful emigration 240 miles away unfortunately has not changed the hostile behavior of the Meccans. Therefore, the Muslims should be ready to fight even though they do not wish to fight. Of course, the Muslims did not wish to fight. That is exactly why they bore persecution patiently for thirteen years and migrated to a different region altogether—to avoid fighting. The verse is a commentary on human nature. These Muslims had suffered for over a decade in Mecca, left all their homes, properties, belongings, and ancestries to emigrate, all for the sake of peace. Now, war pursued them once more. It is completely reasonable to believe that some Muslims were tired of the persecution, suffering, and running. They simply wanted peace—but the Qur’an admonished them to remain firm because God knew the consequences of their acquiescence to Meccan aggression. Commenting on this situation, the Prophet Muhammad(sa) reassured the Muslims, “O ye Muslims! you should not desire to fight the enemy, and remain desirous of the peace and security of God. If however, contrary to your desire, you are compelled to fight an enemy then demonstrate steadfastness.” [3] This is a universal principle. Sovereign governments throughout history and even today enact mandatory drafts to ensure that their nation remains secure against attack. Critics who find objection with this verse should also declare that all nations that obligate fighting for the security of their citizens are behaving unjustly. Turning specifically to the issue of the alleged plundering raids, history records elicit facts contrary to what critics fabricate: Āṣim bin Kulaib relates from his father that an Anṣārī Companion narrates that, we set out on a Ghazwah with the Holy Prophet(sa). On one occasion, the people were struck by severe hunger and became very much distressed (since they had no provisions with them). Upon this they caught a few goats from a flock, slaughtered them and began cooking them. Our pots were boiling with their meat when the Holy Prophet(sa) arrived. The Holy Prophet immediately upset our pots with his bow and angrily began grinding the pieces of meat beneath his feet and exclaimed, ‘Plunder is no better than carrion.’” [4] History is clear. Let alone during times of prosperity, even in the face of severe hunger, Prophet Muhammad(sa) forbade plunder of any sort. In another famous tradition, Prophet Muhammad(sa) commanded the Muslims, O ye Muslims! go forth in the name of Allāh and perform Jihād with the intention of protecting religion. But beware! do not embezzle the wealth of spoils and do not deceive a people. Do not mutilate the enemy dead, do not kill women and children [5], nor religious recluses [6]; and do not kill the elderly. Create peace in the land, and treat the people with benevolence, for surely, Allāh loves the benevolent.” [7] Once again, Prophet Muhammad(sa), in word and deed, explains that the purpose of fighting is to protect religious freedom—not wealth, power, or terror. He specifically forbade Muslims from harming innocents, condemned violence, and implored benevolence. Islamic history scholar Hazrat Mirza Bashir Ahmad details the purpose of the raids that were undertaken by the Prophet, and demonstrates that they were not unjust, but a just form of defense that nations even today employ, The fourth strategy [to protect Muslims from the mischief of idolaters] employed by the Holy Prophet(sa) was that he began to intercept the trade caravans of the Quraish which travelled from Makkah to Syria passing by Madīnah en route. The reason being that firstly, these caravans would spark a fire of enmity against the Muslims wherever they travelled. It is obvious that for a seed of enmity to be sown in the environs of Madīnah was extremely dangerous for the Muslims. Secondly, these caravans would always be armed and everyone can appreciate that for such caravans to pass by so close to Madīnah was not empty of danger. Thirdly, the livelihood of the Quraish primarily depended on trade. Therefore, in these circumstances, the most definitive and effective means by which the Quraish could be subdued, their cruelties could be put to an end and they could be pressed to reconciliation, was by obstructing their trade route. As such, history testifies to the fact that among the factors which ultimately compelled the Quraish to incline towards reconciliation, the interception of these trade caravans played an extremely pivotal role. Hence, this was an extremely sagacious strategy, which yielded fruits of success at the appropriate time. Fourthly, the revenue from these caravans of the Quraish was mostly spent in efforts to eliminate Islām. Rather, some caravans were even sent for the sole purpose that their entire profit may be utilized against the Muslims. In this case, every individual can understand that the interception of these caravans, was in its own right, an absolutely legitimate motive. Various prejudiced Christian historians … have raised the allegation that, God-forbid, the Holy Prophet(sa) and his Companions would set out for the purpose of plundering the caravans of the Quraish. We would like to inquire of these people who are an embodiment of justice and equity, that do your nations, who you consider to be the epitomes of civility and nobility, not obstruct the trade routes of enemy nations? When they receive news that a trade vessel belonging to such and such enemy nation is passing by so and so place, do they not immediately dispatch a naval company in its pursuit so as to destroy it, or employ a strategy to subdue it and take possession of its wealth? Then for this reason can your leaders be labelled as robbers, pillagers and plunderers? Verily, if the Muslims intercepted the caravans of the Quraish, its purpose was not to take possession of the wealth of their caravans. Rather, military tactics demanded that the trade route of the Quraish be obstructed, because there was no better means by which they could be brought to their senses and pushed to reconciliation. To assert that in the interception of these caravans, the Muslims were given teachings of pillage and plunder, is a grave injustice and far from equity. [8] The above-mentioned authentic references should clarify to any fair-minded reader that Prophet Muhammad(sa) did not engage in any injustice regarding war. He certainly did not in any capacity raid innocent trade caravans. On the contrary he demonstrated extreme restraint And benevolence Omo irakiran. I know you will still twist the story . |
yungmill:So this is the source you are talking about .i don’t need to argue with you .These are clowns .oh sorry senseless clueless guys like you .you belong to the same class as them .there are merely attacking Islam saying jargons .you are big fool for believing this . |
Eriokanmi:Please tell wailers and Christ-trump supporter .i guess he’s there saviour after Christ |
mhmsadyq:Pele ![]() |
yungmill:prove the question your pastor programmed in your brain to ask us .i will rather answer your pastor or leader in church .you are no match .the question you were asking is programmed on you . Come to think of it .What exactly is you guys problem are you short of people in church or could it be people are seeing it the light and you are trying to take them back .its Allah doing .people are seeing light .people know you are chasing conspiracy theories around .your religion is suck .Your attack is always base on fight in North bla bla .your pastors are very smart ,They are using those fact to attract you to church in order to milk you dry since you are gullible in nature and blind to see that your pastor is good on private ,compel you to contribute and build schools your children cannot attend .Oh I see ,The best way is antagonised Islam to blind you guys and take it as an advantage to acquire wealth and connections.smart pastor |
yungmill:I can’t answer any question from senseless person like you .All you have inside of you is lies and unverifiable fact .i don’t see you as someone with sensitive motives as per religion aspect .i have given you the truth you need to know go and deal with it |
phorget:Give me verifiably example of any Muslim that force you to accept Islam by force .No Muslim will force you to accept the religion .i can clearly see that most of the leaders in your religion only chase conspiracies and lies .you have Muslim around you .give us verifiable instance when you were forced .muslim don’t even to evangelical to Christians like you do by asking and selling ladies house to house to sell their body in the name bringing them to your religion .if it’s force Christian has it so many ways than Muslim . |
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, I'm ashamed of the level of hypocrisy displayed by we southerners especially we Christians in this incessant calls for Pantami's resignation. What has pantami done wrong for God's sake? How many of us don't have some misdeeds in the past? Why can't we practice the teachings of our lord Jesus christ who admonished us to love our neighbors as ourselves? When Nnamdi Kanu formed IPOB that later metamorphosed into a terrorist group we southerners were supporting him. Kanu was tried and convicted and became a fugitive yet we kept supporting him. Pantami has never been convicted nor tried in any court yet we are calling for his head. Are we not meant to be our brothers keeper? What proof do we Christians have to call him an extremist just because he mandated us to register for NIN. Why this sudden media trial and blackmail? Why can't we emulate northerners who always stand by themselves no matter what? Are we not ashamed that our country's name is been dragged in the mud by this baseless accusations? Pantami is going no where. We have terrible people amongst we Christians too but we shield them rather than call them out. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Christian. Honestly 