Clubbing? You know those tips. Dress moderately, no heels, hold extra cash, no alcoholic drinks, no drinks from/with total strangers, stay with your clique always and a whole lot more.
...but Op, my real piece is that you really do not need it...esp in your first year in school...and definitely, not because your friends are coaxing you to go.
However, if you insist on going, try going with someone who you've known for 3yrs plus and who's not also going for the first time.
Personally, I disagree with the idea of Men beating ladies...infact, I see it as barbaric. There are a thousand+ ways to correct/scold or 'discipline' a lady so, why should you beat them? They should be loved, cared for and protected.
Though, there are some folks out there (male and female) who are just not responsible. However, I'm not also quick to judge all men who do that as I've not experienced some of their cases. A lady should also never 'provoke' a man to do such.
MarkMiwerds: It is ironic how T.B. Joshua stated that God had the final say, yet T.B. does not allow God to say it.
T.B. instead insists that it is right to take tithes. God's Word says otherwise. God's Word says His holy tithes were to be observed in Israel, and that commandment to tithe He gave to no other nation.
T.B. Joshua is placing his opinion above God's Word. Very dangerous.
Hello Sir,
I'd like you to answer to these based on your posts. 1. Which of God's word are you referring to? If it is the Bible, kindly point where it says 'otherwise' about tithe.
2. Can you mention few more nations God gave instructions to other than Israel.
nlMediator: I've listened to all of them in person, with the exception of Pastor Kumuyi (who I've listened to or read) and Rev. Areogun (who I've not heard of until now) I endorse your list. These are men God has used mightily to impact our generation. I'd add George Adegboye of Rhema Chapel. He's a walking Bible.
Seconded.
I've also not listened to Pastor Areogun in person, but he produces a devotional (with his wife), 'Spirit Meat' which I have read several editions a good number of times. It is 'rich.'
italo: If Sts Peter and Paul discouraged private interpretation of scipture for Christians with their words and actions, and you encourage it with your words and actions, because you claim to have the Holy Spirit, then you're claiming to know the Holy Spirit more than them.
It is impossible...given that you contradict the Holy Spirit. What is possible is that you have a contrary spirit.
You can conclude I claimed whatever you want me to claim.
No, I'm not contradicting the HolySpirit. His duty for us does not exclude that....if it does, then it is wrong or may even be a sin for a Christian to study on his own.
italo: Yes. The NT is scripture. The Church leaders wrote it. The Church leaders canonized the complete canon of scriptures for Christians OT and NT. Only they have the authority to interpret them for Christians. "No private interpretation," says St. Peter.
How was Luke a 'Church leader?' Who wrote the book of Hebrews?
The OT is scripture! The OT wasn't written by 'Church leaders'....however, people have been 'interpreting' the OT correctly without even the Holy Spirit, using different means and even before the Church was born.
It remains a half-truth if you insist the Church leaders wrote 'scripture.' ...and yes, half truths are deceptive and dangerous.
When you are lying about simple issues like this, why should we believe you on other issues?
italo: So? Is Fr Mbaka the only Nigerian influencing votes? There are hundreds of people doing so even on nairaland as we speak.
First things first, do you agree he is influencing the votes of Nigerians against a candidate?
italo: Did the Holy Spirit tell you the message is not from him? Does the Nigerian constitution forbid a Nigerian adult making a peaceful campaign against a candidate?
No.
You, did the Holy Spirit tell you the message is from Him?
I don't even need to ask you, you have not been able to agree nor disagree on that.
italo: It is possible. It is also possible that Jonathan can never bring the change we need.
Likewise, it is very possible for none of the candidates to be the one to bring the change we need.
...since it is possible for Jonathan, what if Jonathan is the one to bring the change we need? Why is Fr Mbaka ruling him out like it is absolutely impossible?
italo: You still haven't said what your problem with Fr Mbaka is...or what he stole from you.
All you did up there is ask questions.
What is your problem with Fr Mbaka?
If I have asked questions, then my problem with Him is in questions.
You asked me, so you should be able to answer if it is in questions.
italo: I see. You know the Holy Spirit more than Peter, Paul and all the early Church Fathers. Well done.
I didn't claim that. By the way, is that impossible?
italo: I see. You're saying either the NT is not scripture or it was written by non-Christians...and I'm the liat? Well done.
You said this
italo: "Also, it was Church leaders that wrote and canonized the scriptures and scriptural epistles. Only they can be trusted to interpret them."
Were you referring to the NT when you mentioned "Scripture" there?
Anyway, I'm talking about the same the scripture Peter mentioned in 2Peter 1:20-21, the ones Jesus referred to.
I'll mention the NT if/when I'm referring to it.
italo: Then what's your headache with Fr Mbaka and the Church?
My problem with Fr Mbaka?
"...he cannot lead Nigeria. As things stand right now, from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, Jonathan should honourably resign quietly and let Nigeria be. The destiny of Nigeria is greater than Goodluck Jonathan."
Do you know the level of influence that statement about the incumbent President can have on his re-election/campaign/Votes received?
Do you think he has not changed the orientation of several people by making such statement and even implying it is from the Holy Spirit despite saying he's not campaigning for anybody when he's definitely campaigning against a candidate?
Yes, Nigeria needs a change! Is it impossible for Jonathan to be the one to bring the change/transformation Nigeria needs?
italo: They should confirm from the Church leadership as Paul did in Acts 15. In other words, they had to believe and act on the teachings of the Church leadership.
Is it a sin to confirm from the scriptures and epistles?
italo: Is it a sin for something to be wrong somewhere?
It is not always a sin for someone or something to be wrong somewhere.
italo: The Bereans were not in Church in Acts 17:11. They were in the Synagogue and were not Christians yet. They confirmed what Paul told them by searching the Old Testament...just like the Aeropagites came to understand Paul's message by his use of their pagan tradition. Should Christians emulate these in Church?
Christians should confirm whatever they are taught as admonished by Paul.
italo: How did the Bereans get baptized and receive Communion? Did they see it in the OT or did they believe the authority of Paul's word?
How did Christians decide on if the gentiles had to be circumcised or not in Acts 15? Did all Christians search the Bible themselves or did they go to the leaders of the Church?
Jesus commanded the baptism and the Communion, which was also documented. However, believers had to believe and act on the Apostles' words.
italo: So? Is it a sin for a Priest to make a sudden u-turn?
Did Prophets in Bible never make u-turn?
So? Is it an abomination for the Church or some faithful to disagree with a priest?
Did Paul not disagree with Peter?
Paul disagreed with Peter because he did something wrong....Peter was being hypocritical. I don't see the Church/Church faithfuls disagree with something which isn't wrong.
italo: Even if you ask a million times, I will only answer if I find a good reason to.
Thank you for your time.
italo: I don't see a difference between your responses above and the "I don't know" I said. Even if there were, you cant say your response is more reasonable than mine.
Thank you for your response.
italo: The same way Paul confirmed his own teaching and that of the Judaizers. He went to the teaching office of the Church in Jerusalem.
The priest only has to conform to Church teaching on faith and morals. The election is outside this. I can always confirm what I hear in Church from the documented teachings of the Church.
How did the bereans confirm what they learned in Church?
italo: Are you about to tell me a joke that every word ever spoken by every deeper life pastor is true?
Every word? No.
italo: You know he is my priest yet you're the one developing a headache on my behalf...even after I told you I am not interested in knowing more about the message because it wont serve any purpose.
Why are you more interested in my priest's message than I am?
You need to find out what is unsettling you.
Less than two months ago, the same Priest endorsed the same candidate who he has now declared that "the destiny of Nigeria is greater than Him."
He has made a sudden u-turn.
Besides, it seems the Church/Church faithfuls disagree with him.
italo: What you said above makes zero difference, neither is it a good reason I should answer.
Even if I give another good reason, you may not answer...will you?
For the seventh time, I ask again;
1. What has Rev. Fr Mbaka ever done that you're not comfortable with? 2. What has the Holy Spirit ever done that you're uncomfortable with?
This will be the last time I'll ask.
italo: I don't know if it is. If I say in Jesus name, we are announcing change, can you agree or disagree that the statement is in Jesus' name?
If it is within a message/speech/article, yes, I can...depending on the context of the whole message/speech.
The only instance I can't is if that's the only statement made.
italo: I don't know. If I say from the sanctuary of the Lord, we are announcing change, can you agree or disagree that it is from the sanctuary of the Lord?
Maybe.
italo: I don't know? Do you?
If you don't know, then how can you be sure you're learning the truth in Church?
By the way, I don't. How can I? He's not my Rev. Fr, neither is he my Pastor nor my teacher.
....but he's yours, you can always reach him.
italo: Your post is a product of your reasoning. You said I seemed inconsistent when you seemed deficient.
Who is attacking who?
You seem forgetful too.
You posts began going in circles and that was the reason for saying you seemed inconsistent.
Anyway, if you say I seem deficient, confused or forgetful, I'm not bothered, I know I'm not.
italo: Again, what's the point? If it is to know whether I am honest or dishonest, I dont care.
So why should I answer?
Why should you not answer? It is a question concerning your statement.
I've told you why you should answer, you just said you don't care. Well that make zero difference neither is it an answer.
For the sixth time; 1. What has Rev. Fr Mbaka ever done that you're not comfortable with? 2. What has the Holy Spirit ever done that you're uncomfortable with?
italo: I am not inconsitent. "He said" in the first statement...doesn't mean "I know."
I am not in a position to conclude what? I know the message from Fr Mbaka. I know the summary. What I don't know is the particular message from the Holy Spirit...which you were asking me about.
Instead of going in circles, Lemme make things easier for you.
These are excerpts from his sermon.
1."By the grace of God, by the power of the Holy Spirit, we are announcing spiritually, change!" Do you agree that this statement is "by the power of the Holy Spirit?" Yes/No
2. "Listen, when you go home, tell anybody you see that from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, we are announcing change (AMEN)." Do you agree that this statement is "from the oracle of the Holy Spirit?" Yes/No
3. "As things stand right now, from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, Jonathan should honourably resign quietly and let Nigeria be." Do you agree that this statement is "from the oracle of the Holy Spirit?" Yes/No
If he has received any other "particular message," that's not within his sermon, you can contact him for that...afterall, he's your Rev. Fr. I'm more concerned with the claims above.
italo: It is your reasoning that seems to be deficient. It seems you're getting confused.
Trying to attack me? Sorry, it won't help in any way.
italo: And how many times do I have to tell you you can conclude what you like? 50?
Alright. I don't want to conclude
Here are the simple questions again for the fifth time.
1. What has Rev. Fr Mbaka ever done that you're not comfortable with? 2. What has the Holy Spirit ever done that you're uncomfortable with?
italo: He said he was announcing change by the power of the Holy Spirit...from the Oracle of the Holy Spirit. "May the Holy Spirit help me to vocalize what he has shown to me while I was waiting on him to give me a message for my people?" "May the Holy Spirit help me to vocalize..."
I can conclude that he claimed to announce change from the oracle of the Holy Spirit. I can conclude that he claimed to recieve a message from the Holy Spirit. I cannot conclude that he ended up vocalizing it. It is very possible...but he never categorically said that.
You seem to be inconsistent with your words. You have just said that;
italo: He said he was announcing change by the power of the Holy Spirit...from the Oracle of the Holy Spirit.
Now, here you are again, saying;
italo: ...'how can I know whether it is from the Holy Spirit or not?'
You're not in a position to conclude since you don't know whether it is from the Holy Spirit or not....neither have you agreed or disagreed.
italo: I told you a long time ago that the summary of his message was that we need change in Nigeria and that everyone agrees with that.
italo:But I dont need to know the particular message. What purpose will it serve?
Then how can you know the summary of the message when you don't even know the message?
That's why I asked earlier "which message?"...when you asked this:
Which message? A word, a phrase, or the whole sermon?
I pointed out something in his sermon...which is the claim he made that 'he received his message from the Holy Spirit.'
The only thing I need from you is to know whether you agree with this statement or not.
If you need to know the message in particular, it is up to you to determine what the message is from his sermon...or simply contact him and ask him.
If you ask if I agree or disagree with a statement made by my Pastor, I won't hesitate in answering unless I don't wanna answer which I will also state. I see no reason why you hesitant in agreeing to your Rev Fr's statement or otherwise.
italo: You're in no position to tell me the "better" thing to say.
However, you are perfectly free to believe I lied... and that Fr Mbaka and the Holy Spirit have never made me uncomfortable. It would only be your ignorant belief though. You didn't say what he might be telling lies about.
Still trying to evade the questions? All these won't help.
1. What has Rev. Fr Mbaka ever done that you're not comfortable with? 2. What has the Holy Spirit ever done that you're uncomfortable with?
This is the third time I'm asking.
italo: "Message" could be just one line or two in the sermon. Yes or no?
Yes. Infact, "message" could be just a phrase or even a word in the whole sermon. I know that.
That's a simple question...it is better to say you can't tell than saying the above...it makes you seem dishonest and unaccountable to your words.
1. What has Rev. Fr Mbaka ever done that you're not comfortable with? 2. What has the Holy Spirit ever done that you're uncomfortable with?
italo: And it is possible he is telling the truth.
Telling the truth that?
italo: I dont see where he said his "speech" is from the Holy Spirit. Can you show me?
I didn't also say Fr Mbaka said his speech is from the Holy Spirit.
Maybe you did not get me or you're trying to twist the whole thing.
I said; "However, he made it clear that he waited on the Holy Spirit for a message, the Holy Spirit showed him something, and the article above is the message he delivered. Also, he said that the Holy Spirit should help him deliver what he has been shown...so, it is safe to say that he lays claim to the Holy Spirit as the source of his message.
italo: Where did Fr Mbaka or anyone else claim that Fr Mbaka is the Holy Spirit?
What is the matter? Are you just agitated because the man is a Catholic Priest?
Were you not the one that made these statements?
italo: I'm a Catholic. I respect Fr Mbaka as a priest. I am not always comfortable with the way he goes about certain things though...i think he should be more prudent.
italo: About my being uncomfortable, it is normal to be uncomfortable when the Holy Spirit does certain things...
Who is fooling who?
italo: Which kind yeye question be dis? How can i know if it is true or not?
Simple. You don't know.
italo: Fr Mbaka never said the entirety of his sermon was directly from the Holy Spirit. The article is still there for you to read.
Neither did he say the entire sermon was not directly from the Spirit. However, he made it clear that he waited on the Holy Spirit for a message, the Holy Spirit showed him something, and the article above is the message he delivered. Also, he said that the Holy Spirit should help him deliver what he has been shown...so, it is safe to say that he lays claim to the Holy Spirit as the source of his message. Disagree?
italo: I'm a Catholic. I respect Fr Mbaka as a priest. I am not always comfortable with the way he goes about certain things though...i think he should be more prudent.
italo: About my being uncomfortable, it is normal to be uncomfortable when the Holy Spirit does certain things...
Is Rev. Fr Mbaka now the Holy Spirit? When did he become the Holy Spirit?
italo: The summary of the sermon is that we need change in Nigeria.
Everyone knows that is the truth.
Yes, we need change! We all know that.
If the summary is true, the details should be true. Do you agree with that?
However, He said the message is from the Holy Spirit, how true is that?
moderatorr1: During his end of the year cross over night service, Father Mbaka of Enugu State, a catholic priest started voicing support for Buhari. His audience were shocked and fell entirely silent even during the time he called for responses. The priests themselves, standing on the stage with him all folded their hands in awe as the man of God dabbled into politics.
This is a video of Buhari with a spear encouraging his followers to kill people during election. After he lost that election, youth corpers where mobbed. Then he stayed for 2 days before coming to bbc under pressure to ask his people to stop the violence.
He said people should vote Buhari because Jonathan could not stop 'simple insurgency'. In reality, insurgency is not simple, no country has been able to stop insurgency once it has started. Kenya, Libya, Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan, USA (with all their technology and sophistication), Nigeria. Terrorism by groups of individuals who use Islam as a motivation or a mask are unstoppable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
1. He said people should vote Buhari because we have not seen more bloodshed in the history of the nation since Boko Haram started. Statistically, boko haram has killed about 10,000 people, Biafran war was started due to a reverse on the aburi accord, it killed 2 million people, mostly civilians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War
2. He said Boko Haram started due to unemployment caused by Goodluck's administration. Well, Boko haram started in 2009 and Goodluck started ruling in 2009 as acting. So when did the unemployment start? Actually boko haram said their aim is to implement total sharia in Nigeria. And that they are against democracy or anything from the west.
5. He said Buhari didn't encourage violence, lies, see the video above.
6. Then He said Buhari didn't say he will make the country ungovernable, he pointed that ciroma was the one who said it. cool .. but Buhari actually said "if i don't win in 2015, the dogs and the baboons will soak in blood" And refused to join the team to negotiate with boko haram.
7. Fr. Mbaka said Buhari said he will islamise nigeria but didnt mean it since he didnt do it the first time he ruled. Lol. In 2001, Buhari said in a meeting "God willingly we will continue to push for total implementation of sharia in the country. Those who are not part of us should learn about it" .
And...Fr. Mbaka said the holy spirit told him so.
Hmmm, i'm a catholic but Nwa Mbaka is on his own in this one. I wonder how much they paid him.
#teamGEJ2019 fee dee feeeee! Of a truth, this will be a heated election. i'm viewing in 3D. Grabs pop corn
plaetton: And all this vast real estate was created for the exclusive pleasure of sheep herders and selfservicers like you to enjoy your microsecond life? What a waste.
Rather, it suddenly popped out of nothingness and emptiness for selfservicers like you to freely enjoy your thing while you live then die to go into non existence.