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Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 9:50pm On Jul 28, 2014 |
italo: What kinda question is the bold? The ambiguity of a statement is in relation to the subject of the discourse. In relation to the issue the Pope was addressing- forgiveness of people that do not believe in God and what sin is to them, without mentioning "heaven" or saying anything about it makes it ambiguous. Here's the original letter. w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/letters/2013/documents/papa-francesco_20130911_eugenio-scalfari.html ...and here's an English translation of it. m.repubblica.it/mobile/r/sezioni/cultura/2013/09/11/news/the_pope_s_letter-66336961/?ref=search&mfil=1 Here are reports from Catholic sources and general media considering the statement. www.catholicvote.org/atheists-can-go-to-heaven-did-pope-francis-say-something-new/ www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077 www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-dont-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html I've pointed out what I meant...and I hope there's nothing else. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 5:09pm On Jul 28, 2014 |
italo: Jesus' preceding Statement. 28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’ 29 ‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go. 31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Statement in question. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. Next, Jesus said; 32 "For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him... 43 “...therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." The subsequent statement(s) was to show exactly what Jesus said in the parable-repentant sinners are more likely to make Heaven than rebellious believers, fruitful strangers are preferred to unfruitful sons. When you study, pay attention to details. ....and yes, I did read the Pope's speech in full and there was no sort of clarification (within the speech)...though the media and some other Priests tried to explain what He really meant...and that's where the disagreement is. Also, He did not mention Heaven---and that makes the statement more ambiguous. You disagree? italo: ...and now, you have cooked up a reason for me for 'criticizing' the pope. Congratulations. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 9:05am On Jul 28, 2014 |
italo: There's no 'shifting the goal post' there. That's not a different reason, it is just to buttress the point. ....and I'm not denying that the Pope wasn't wrong. C'mon, you know how such statement can be taken especially when He wasn't specific on Heaven or elsewhere...and that makes it more ambiguous. Jesus taught in parables but was specific/had a focal point...you disagree? Jesus often made 'controversial' statements...but still had a focal point. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 11:33pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
italo: Why should I? Jesus taught in parables and clarifies his messages using another parable or other means....just like he did when He made that statement and some may still choose to misunderstand though. The simple message was that repentant sinners are more likely to make heaven than rebellious believers...which he explained. ....and for the audio message, I can mail it to you. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 6:45am On Jul 23, 2014 |
italo: My 'criticism' of the Pope's statement is not because it is untrue, of course, it was true...however, it was capable of misleading Atheists to believing that they'll definitely be saved/make heaven if they do good works. ...and yes, that is the Church's teaching on atheism and other religions. Usually, the Church teachings are kept in the Church records within the Church (I dunno if it's available online though), but I have an audio message where this is taught extensively...if you care to have it, I can send it to you. |
Education / Re: Accounting Students Or Accountants In D House I Need Help by adsonstone: 11:29pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
meryl4merit: Thanks dear... You're welcome. |
Education / Re: Accounting Students Or Accountants In D House I Need Help by adsonstone: 11:14pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
The IASs that have been issued till date are listed below. IAS 1 Presentation of Financial Statements (2007) IAS 2 Inventories (2005) IAS 3 Consolidated Financial Statements (Superseded in 1989 by IAS 27 and IAS 28 1976) IAS 4 Depreciation Accounting (Withdrawn in 1999) IAS 5 Information to Be Disclosed in Financial Statements (Superseded by IAS 1 effective 1 July 1998 1976) IAS 6 Accounting Responses to Changing Prices (Superseded by IAS 15, which was withdrawn December 2003) IAS 7 Statement of Cash Flows (1992) IAS 8 Accounting Policies, Changes in Accounting Estimates and Errors (2003) IAS 9 Accounting for Research and Development Activities (Superseded by IAS 38 effective 1 July 1999) IAS 10 Events After the Reporting Period (2003) IAS 11 Construction Contracts (1993) (Will be superseded by IFRS 15 as of 1 January 2017) IAS 12 Income Taxes (1996) IAS 13 Presentation of Current Assets and Current Liabilities (Superseded by IAS 39 effective 1 July 1998) IAS 14 Segment Reporting (1997) (Superseded by IFRS 8 effective 1 January 2009) IAS 15 Information Reflecting the Effects of Changing Prices (2003) (Withdrawn December 2003) IAS 16 Property, Plant and Equipment (2003) IAS 17 Leases (2003) IAS 18 Revenue (1993) (Will be superseded by IFRS 15 as of 1 January 2017) IAS 19 Employee Benefits (1998) Superseded by IAS 19 (2011) effective 1 January 2013 IAS 19 Employee Benefits (2011) IAS 20 Accounting for Government Grants and Disclosure of Government Assistance (1983) IAS 21 The Effects of Changes in Foreign Exchange Rates (2003) IAS 22 Business Combinations (Superseded by IFRS 3 effective 31 March 2004) IAS 23 Borrowing Costs (2007) IAS 24 Related Party Disclosures (2009) IAS 25 Accounting for Investments (Superseded by IAS 39 and IAS 40 effective 2001) IAS 26 Accounting and Reporting by Retirement Benefit Plans (1987) IAS 27 Consolidated and Separate Financial Statements (2003) (Superseded by IFRS 10, IFRS 12 and IAS 27 (2011) effective 1 January 2013) IAS 28 Investments in Associates and Joint Ventures (2011) IAS 28 Investments in Associates (2003) (Superseded by IAS 28 (2011) and IFRS 12 effective 1 January 2013) IAS 29 Financial Reporting in Hyperinflationary Economies (1989) IAS 30 Disclosures in the Financial Statements of Banks and Similar Financial Institutions (1990) (Superseded by IFRS 7 effective 1 January 2007) IAS 31 Interests In Joint Ventures (2003) Superseded by IFRS 11 and IFRS 12 effective 1 January 2013 IAS 32 Financial Instruments: Presentation (2003) IAS 33 Earnings Per Share (2003) IAS 34 Interim Financial Reporting (1998) IAS 35 Discontinuing Operations (1998) (Superseded by IFRS 5 effective 1 January 2005) IAS 36 Impairment of Assets (2004) IAS 37 Provisions, Contingent Liabilities and Contingent Assets (1998) IAS 38 Intangible Assets (2004) IAS 39 Financial Instruments: Recognition and Measurement (2003) (Superseded by IFRS 9 where IFRS 9 is applied) IAS 40 Investment Property (2003) IAS 41 Agriculture The IFRSs in issue are IFRS 1 First-time Adoption of International Financial Reporting Standards (2008) IFRS 2 Share-based Payment (2004) IFRS 3 Business Combinations (2008) IFRS 4 Insurance Contracts (2004) IFRS 5 Non-current Assets Held for Sale and Discontinued Operations (2004) IFRS 6 Exploration for and Evaluation of Mineral Assets (2004) IFRS 7 Financial Instruments: Disclosures (2005) IFRS 8 Operating Segments (2006) IFRS 9 Financial Instruments (2013) IFRS 10 Consolidated Financial Statements (2011) IFRS 11 Joint Arrangements (2011) IFRS 12 Disclosure of Interests in Other Entities (2011) IFRS 13 Fair Value Measurement (2011) IFRS 14 Regulatory Deferral Accounts (2014) IFRS 15 Revenue from Contracts with Customers (2014) www.iasplus.com/en/standards ...I'll do a brief summary on each of them if you want me to. You may also visit the link to read on them. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 10:31pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
italo: Why not? They can... ...but only God ultimately knows if they will or not. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 7:20pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
italo: I can remember I once 'criticized' the Pope for saying 'Atheists can go to Heaven...if they follow their consciences, live right and maintain good works.' (Re-phrased) On that thread, I pointed it out that the sole way of getting to Heaven/The Father (as far as the bible records) was only through Jesus...and I cited Acts 4:12 and John 14:6...and not just as the Pope said. Also, if Romans 2 was talking about 'making Heaven by doing good works,' then it contradicts the passages I cited. However I also mentioned that Atheists may earn salvation/make Heaven in ways known solely to God....and in all, I never said they were all going to Hell. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 5:10pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
italo: Humans generally can do good...because they have the inherent (God- given) ability to do good, not because we are all redeemed. Before our redemption, many have done good and made God proud eg Rahab....and after the Redemption, many still do good eg Mary Slessor. I, personally, do not condemn anyone to hell..saved or unsaved, Christian or Non-Christian...you may provide evidence if you believe I do. However, I never declared that you said 'all Protestants are heretics.' My statement says you 'often tag Protestants/Presbyterians heretics' just as you have done about their leaders. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 4:12pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
italo: Mary Slessor, a 'Protestant' infact, 'Presbyterian' (a group of Christians which you often tag 'heretic') did God and religion proud. Thank God you affirmed that. |
Education / Re: Accounting Students Or Accountants In D House I Need Help by adsonstone: 9:51am On Jul 22, 2014 |
The accounting standards, IAS(International Accounting Standards) and the more recent IFRS (International Financial Reporting Standards) are (simply) guidelines for the preparation of financial statements. The objective of the IAS/IFRS is to provide a single universal framework by which companies can prepare, display, and disclose their financial statements. Presently, there are 15 IFRS in issue and 41 IAS (though some have been withdrawn and some others have been superseded by the IFRS in issue). Accounting Students/Accountants (especially Financial Accountants or students who wan to specialize in financial accounting) should have a good knowledge of these standards because they are 'tools' to be used for the preparation of financial statements of companies for public use. I'll try to explain each of the IAS and IFRS in subsequent posts. Feel free to ask any question is you have any. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by adsonstone: 10:34pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Following. Perhaps, I'll contribute...if need be. Thanks for the invite, Italo. |
Religion / Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by adsonstone: 7:21pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
PastorOluT: italo: I'd love to see that thread and I look forward to seeing it. |
Religion / Re: 1500 Year old Bible confirms that Jesus Christ wasn't crucified – Vatican in awe by adsonstone: 6:44pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
@Op, What do you understand by 'The Bible?' |
Sports / Re: Siri Vs Cortana, Argentina Vs Germany – Who Wins? by adsonstone: 3:39pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Siri says "Argentina has a better record than Germany." That's obviously false. Cortana all the way! |
Culture / Re: French Speakers And French Learners On Nairaland!!!! by adsonstone: 2:39pm On Jul 10, 2014 |
Je ne fais que suivre. Still learning French though. |
Education / Re: HND vs First Degree Battle Is Now In Court by adsonstone: 6:02pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Evestar200: true, Auchi poly was ranked 2nd best institution in Nigeria last year and if am not mistaken it was d 12 best institution in Africa and also the best poly in Africa follow by Namibia poly. And if u are talking abt ranking, unilag is no where near top cuz schools like OAU, uniben, Auchi, Unilorin, UNN, UI,AAU are ranked above unilag You were not informed too? www.4icu.org/ng/ That's the official world-wide universities' ranking. Educate yourself. |
Sports / Re: So, Why Didn't Enyeama Dive For That Messi's Freekick? by adsonstone: 8:22pm On Jun 28, 2014 |
He stood in the most probable position Messi would have played it cos playing over a wall is not as easy as curling it around the wall. Also, He must have expected the wall to jump which they didn't. |
Religion / Re: "What's Wrong With Catholics?" by adsonstone: 6:25am On Jan 10, 2014 |
chukwudi44: No one (on this thread) says baptism is not necessary, what the point has been is that baptism is not being born again ie born of spirit and water. chukwudi44: do u really think Jesus became born again when He was baptized? |
Religion / Re: "What's Wrong With Catholics?" by adsonstone: 10:25pm On Jan 09, 2014 |
chukwudi44: Born again was clearly defined by Jesus It has been synonymous with being born again because it has something to do with being born again... (Water) Baptism is not being born again in itself......and as you rightly said exactly as Jesus defined: born again = Born of water, Born of spirit.....and not as Italo generalized that born.again=being baptized. The bone of contention is now what is 'born of water'? ..and what is 'born of Spirit'? |
Religion / Re: "What's Wrong With Catholics?" by adsonstone: 3:35pm On Jan 09, 2014 |
italo: To be born again is to be baptized (born of is this the rcc's definition of baptism? State how (water) baptism is that of the Spirit. |
Religion / Re: "What's Wrong With Catholics?" by adsonstone: 3:27pm On Jan 09, 2014 |
italo: To be born again is to be baptized (born of water and Spirit)...shikena. says Italo, not Jesus. |
Religion / Re: "What's Wrong With Catholics?" by adsonstone: 3:07pm On Jan 09, 2014 |
italo: To be born again is to be baptized (born of water and Spirit)...shikena. how hard is it for a roman catholic to comprehend the words of Christ. |
Romance / Re: Is It Safe To Be Friends With "Cuddle Benefit' With A Guy? by adsonstone: 12:05am On Jan 09, 2014 |
Will you like your partner to do exactly the same thing your doing with his 'best (female) friend'......and they'll both be enjoying it? |
Sports / Re: Opinion: Women Know Nothing About Football by adsonstone: 10:58pm On Jan 08, 2014 |
Not Nomski0.....she knows quite a lot about soccer. |
Religion / Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by adsonstone: 5:01am On Jan 05, 2014 |
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Religion / Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by adsonstone: 4:50am On Jan 05, 2014 |
rudedough: Debate? We're not debating here. Its a dialogue. However, the 'bible subject' is out. I never even mentioned bible/religion. All I said was God, Science, Logic/(critical) reasoning. If you are interested, open one and invite me. |
Religion / Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by adsonstone: 11:33pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
SIR ANDREWS: why don't you open a thread and explain the concept of god What I requested is 'a thread for a dialogue'...not just on the subject of God (which I believe in) but also on science (that atheists rely on) and logic. There we'll discuss, ask questions and also reason out things with an open mind. My reason for not wanting to be the opener is simply because I'd prefer it to be a dialogue started by atheists. You may go open one SIR. |
Religion / Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by adsonstone: 9:30pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
@OP; Of course I believe your mum has a reason for believing there's a God which she wants you to see and she's not 'deluded' as atheists see theists. Since you have once been a theist and you did not see those reasons/find them worthy, I think you should not just pretend to be one because it is of no use and besides, it won't make a difference perhaps, it will make things worse in the long-run . @ other Atheists, I think you haven't still understood the concept of a God who wasn't created but created all things. P.S. Atheists, Open a thread and invite me for a dialogue. |
Phone/Internet Market / Re: HTC One For Sale 55k (negotiable) by adsonstone: 6:09am On Jan 04, 2014 |
I'll text you. |
Religion / Re: A Thread To Pray For Roman Catholics And To Help Them To Reform by adsonstone: 8:32pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
Kamsy10: Someone thinks I'm here to play. How funny. SMH |
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