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btoks:
I've already seen by your tone of responses that it's not worth debating you as you will just resort to words like ' you are lazy' etc. I do you something before?

Tell me where we are to make our own individual conclusions or interpretations of what's in the scriptures? You think you know better than those closer to the time?

Lol....u need the pope to interprete "thou shall not kill to you"...u need the pope to interprete the words of Jesus to you....

I know the history of the catholic church....they tell you yall are too unworthy to know God, too unholy to read and know what's in the bible...
The Vatican kept the bible locked away for years even from your own members......only the priest and Pope claim to know killing those who disagree the pope is not father...
....u can know the one ine father yourself or u can stick with your father the pope and mother Mary ...

btoks:
I'll take the teachings of the historical church of 2000 years witht the fullness of truth over your 2025 warped interpretations. Nuff said. Been there, done that.

Do some research and find out exactly why teachings including pope, even biblical canon are the way they are.

I ddnt interpret anything....go and read the bible on your own u will see it clearly written what I said..m.no need of any complex interpretation......u are just lazy
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..just as it is written clearly "though shall not lie" ....it was clearly written that Moses was told to build the tabernacle like the exact one he was shown and it was clearly written that Jesus entered that heavily ark by his blood to reconcile man back to himself..

The problem with y'all Catholics is that u don't read the bible.....

btoks:
The church works from what God actually did, rather than 2nd guessing what He might have done with Joseph etc.

lol....u are the one claiming Jesus that's already God needs Mary to first be holy to prevent him from being corrupted.......but I'm the one second guessing what God did.....u funny man

btoks:
God chose the manner of Jesus' incarnation and early christianity recognised Marys role as the Ark of the new Covenant.

lol.... U Catholics are weird ppl....u created a mother figure because there Jesus introduced to us God the father......Mary isnt even above Jesus in a anyway .....so painting a mother figure of her over jesus and all believers is the highest form of absurdity.

btoks:
The theological conclusion can be seen feom  the way scripture presents her with several undeniable parallels in the NT compared the OT .

Scripture ddnt present her in a way for you all to tag her as holy mother of all....yall Catholics are carnally driven..you are just creating a mummy and daddy figure that God ddnt present us.....He is the father and wants a Son relationship with us... There is no mother in the equation....

btoks:
If you acknowledge Mary as the ark of the new covenant,

ur knowledge of scripture is poor.....and it's because yall never read but only listen to the lies your vatican tell you..
.Go and read the books of the law and the teaching of Paul about the ark of the covenant so u can cleanse urself from this absurdity..

..the old testament clearly explains how Moses was told to build the ark of the covenant and tabernacle just like the original in heaven he was shown .....just as blood of unblemished sheep was shed in the copy for sins repeatedly, Jesus shed his blood for in reconciliation of man back to God entering the ark of the covenant ....the blood of Mary or flesh or wateva is not in the equation..
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You are reducing the Altar in the of presence Almighty God with your carnality by claiming Mary is the ark....may God forgive you pple

btoks:
This is the catholic church teaching in immaculate conception of Mary

it is a principality level of of fallacy trying to deify Mary...she's not holy mother to any one.....

Jesus clearly rebuked her, when she was overly trying to carnal that "those who do the will of his father her his mother, brothers " as she was always trying to limit jesus as just her biological son that should be with her and her other children at home

btoks:
Obviously, youll need to accept the ark typology to better understand the catholic church teaching.

lol... Its against sound scripture to call Mary the ark....it's tantamount to blasphemy.....I cannot believe against what is already written ..... That's how y'all created Pope out of no where as holy father to also representing Jesus ...yall are just bunch of weird pple

popeferd:
Two things. You either do not own or possess any of these things you put up for display or you lack business ethics. Don’t waste your time engaging this dude. Dead end.

Baba this is not necessary naaaa....telling others not to patronize someone is kinda harsh...

Y'all are too mean in this corner of nairaland

carzeem1:
How the western media condition our collective minds to think in a certain pattern is perplexing. Same way they demonized Gaddafi n the rest.

Best approach to breakaway from them is to remove any trace of western media in a developing society. China did it, north Korea too. I doubt Africa can do that.

Lol...ordinary tuberculosis, polio, leprosy and HIV drugs ..u still need the west ....
Yall can't even pay salary without them....yet u want to break away ...
See as u are calling China and Nigeria in the same sentence......u better stop that rough play...

trutharena:
We appreciate the support from the US lawmakers. However, Nigeria remains a sovereign nation and will address its challenges independently.

When you need money u run to the west...
Drugs for HIV and polio, u run to the west
Foreign aid for girl child, u run to the west
For leprosy and tuberculosis..same west
Foreign NGO like Impact water even provide you with clean water in remote areas.

...u can't even pay salary without the west.

the only thing you can do on your own is embezzle and lie with statistics ....

But when they want to help you deal with terrorist .....Its now u remember u are a sovereign state.. .. tuehhh!!

Excuse me sir.....y'all don't have shame......only God knows how y'all sleep at night after lying to defend incompetent govt

Penguin2:
Did Joseph impregnate Mary for Jesus to be birthed?

Exactly....Joseph was not part of the equation.. because both Mary's egg and Joseph's sperm was not part of the birth ....

.If God first needed to first make the flesh holy for Jesus to not be corrupted of sin?? Then why exempt Joseph from the equation in the first place, when both Joseph and Mary could have been holy father and holy mother, and Jesus would have come the conventional way and still uncorrupted, ......which would have saved Mary the embarrassment of being thought to have slept with another man before her marriage to joseph ....??

See... Y'all Catholics created a need for Mary to first be made holy so u can have holy mother because Jesus revealed to us Holy father... But such need is a clear a fallacy because Jesus was the embodiment of the holy Spirit, not a product of the corruptible means of sex....

gpercuxionz:
Hello Nairalander,
I really need advice concerning making a choice between the two jobs before me. My family members are divided over which job I should choose.

I'm working in a highbrow secondary school in lagos andy salary presently with private lessons combined is almost N200k I just got a lecturing job with one of the southwest state polytechnic and my gross salary according to the appointment letter is N88000 My father wants me to continue with my teaching in the secondary school but my mother is pressuring me to write acceptance letter to the polytechnic and accept the offer. There's no time, as I am to resume the polytechnic job next week

Should I go and become Mr. Lecturer and sacrifice my secondary school benefits?

U and Ur daddy nor know how much be hand-out and runs for higher institution......besides, there is a better career path at the higher institution, if u get your PhD...u become a senior lecture...write papers..., do collabo with other lectures, publish papers..u can eventually move to better institutions and become professor.....

If u like dey secondary school shaaa.....na u sabi

DMCA:
I Just d imagine say I dey high school with any person wey him mama get knack tape.
the person fit reason rope and sniper

U too like vawulence ....U are evil

Yeah..."I was groomed" ...so I am not responsible for my past actions......

The part I like is when her fellow supporters that also never want to be accountable for their actions will come and ask "what of the men that slept with her" .....


But nor worry.....u and your son go dey alright las las

9jatriot:
I still do not understand why some of the Northern governors keep trying this negotiation that has been proven not to work.

Let us assume the first set of governors were naive, why have subsequent ones not learnt from the previous mistakes?

See u ....baba dey call am mistake....there is no mistake here....

.it was a cash cow to previous governors.....this is cool money that cannot be accounted for or audited .....

So What the u expect the current thieving governors to do..?? .they should look for how to end the cash cow.?? lol...be like u just come from UK. Hahahahahaha!!!

Dyfynezz12:
Let's stop blaming government for everything,we dey citizens re worse

Welldone

If dangote wakes up tomorrow and say fuel is 120 naira per liter...y'all will praise the govt /tinubu and say he has delivered, forgetting dangote is a private body....

E reach govt project wey no work reach 4 days ...u say make Dem nor call govt... Baba Who make Dem call....??
Na tinubu govt appointment minister, na minister award project..... It falls back in the govt,.... security, exchange rate, electricity, everything that involves tax payers money and our revenue

So if u know how to praise tinubu for the sun that rose today ... when the sun nor gree rise tomorrow or for one week make I nor catch u dey scream climate change

Sonnobax15:

Bannies and pepper Dem mentality

In 5 years time from now,make she no begin regret.... Begin cry had I know?

Money wey she for invest on something better,at least,wey go better her future....She just go waste am untop phones wey the same set of bannies go use gossip her among themselves

If the story real.....So u believe say she use her personal hard earned money buy those phones? ...Lol.... U must believe I'm the president of Germany....

See ehn...if u do simp for woman buy her 2 million naira phone, she go collect am with her full chest, go brag to her friends say na love... She nor go even tell you this is too much...you could have used the money for something else more important...

But, you first try credit that two million naira inside her account,.... make she waka go store debit herself to buy the same phone........ Lai lai....na there u go know say women get sense pass men ....

Solofresh2:
He actually cheated on my mom

U just carry ur papa and family come drag for internet by pple wey dey use u catch cruise of gender bashing...

If u get money ...send am go school, but be ready to pay more than school fees, cos u go buy fine clothes, buy shoes, by bone straight, and u go definitely pay for other girl stuff
...
If u nor get money tell am make she go learn fashion designer......

Una two go dey alright las las

cdqyehyeh:
Nairaland is full of non intellectual comment.

The post is about cutting importation yet some comments are trying to disregard the post.
If only there is another site where reasonable comment can be found.
We cry of importing everything yet some want to label a move against it as rubbish.

read most of the comments well and u will see its rooted in the previous failure of related policies....Nigerians have lost faith in their leaders, it's not really an intellectual issue...

They will destroy like 5 things that drive price of a major commodity with their incompetence, then introduce one good policy that isnt enough to help cushion the effect of the damage they initially caused...

u forgot, the policy with rice ?? They stopped rice importation.....but they had already destroyed the naira, petrol expensive, electricity cost was sky high, cost of every other thing in the production chain of manufacturers had significantly increased... So the effect was of closing border against rice was little and local producers just passed the burden in addition to their greed on masses....

Nigeria is a very weird country....this increase in tarrif should kill imports and help drive success of local production......but we are just deceiving ourself..
.this is not a ban....marketers won't back down...they will keep importing both them and dangote will reach an agreement of how they can both thrive in the market and eventually push the burden on everyday Nigerian, who already is struggling to survive

because these marketers won't mind to sabotage dangote refinery.....abi u think it's witchcraft that ddnt make our refineries work?? Its these same pple

Streetinvestor2:
U think u are talking to an illiterate when it comes to finance/economics. Tell me what has pulled thr highest demand for dollars in nigeria economy.Or u want to claim knowledge of something above ur pay grade.What is the fair value of naira to dollars that u are advising people to buy because trump made pronouncement on nigeria insecurity problem.
You saw the news and think u can create panic to cash out.It won't work because the pressure demands for dollars doesn't exist again like in the past.
Importation for fuel has reduced
Demand for foreign school bills is down
Demand for foreign medical bill is down
Banks naira card for dollars expenses have returned and increased serious to upto 5k dollars quarterly.
Nigeria is earning more in dollars now via export of Dangote Refinery and export of farm products.
Do I need to school u more so that u will understand that laughing is dumb

.lol......werey said I'm creating panic....u can't even differentiate who open thread from other comments..
..again... zero importation of fuel , which is a good thing but greedy marketers will never allow y'all witness is not the only factor that will drive the naira exchange rate down...

..its obvious you are just spilling back comments u read from online beer palour economics
there are other factors in play that our economy has not even improved on ....if you don't know that, then u are not even smart by half..

Streetinvestor2:
Your type bought around #1800.How much lost now is it.I don't support this government but we know why the dollars is losing against the naira. And it will continue because the pressure was because importation of crude related products .like 50% demand for dollars was for it and that window is gradually closing. So the naira has to appreciate.

Lol.......he said 1800 naira...u don't even know who u are talking to and u assumed what is not...

See ehn....if u think only fuel importation made exchange rate jump to 1500 naira then u don't known what's going on in nigeria...

See ehn...even with zero fuel import which will never happen because of greedy marketers .....they exchange rate you are fallaciously claiming will crash will shock you....

That's why I was making fun of you when u said it has lost so much value ....how is change from 1500 naira to1467naira so much ?

Anyway shaaa..wateva makes y'all sleep well night is fine by me

Streetinvestor2:
Scam alert. The one u have has lost so much value that u are looking for way to pump the price up so u can exit. IT will go down to #1300 soon.

Lost So much value??

U like exaggerating....

U must be among those that like saying price of everything has crashed

Mistersolar:
im not arguing, this week u will still roll wit ur muslim friend ,as long as u dont accept its political im arahere

Roll with potential killers.....abeg oooo

Dogalmighty17:
Helinues is this you? Did they change your medication?

He forgot to switch moniker

Mistersolar:
thrash

As usual.....ur religion is a religion of peace....even if u are killing everybody

Hullcity:
In as much as giving head (cunninlingus) is sweet like honeycomb to both the giver and the reciver. It poses a grave risk to Ur health becoas u can contract throat cancer (Angioimmunoblastic T-cell lymphoma.) from it. the very ailments that killd sound sultan . I am not saying all this to threaten you, No. But to make sure you are full aware of the risks behind it.

So vag!na is sweet like honey to the licker?
U sabi lie shaa??

Mistersolar:
swear wit ur life u don't av muslim friends

Baba...what has having Muslims friends gotta do with the fact that y'all are bunch of crazy pple when it comes down to ur religion....

If u must know .... I don't have close Muslims friends anymore because I notice they never put humanity first ....once it comes down to their religion of killing infidels/Kafir, justifying evil done in Islam by Muslims, they become someone else completely .......

When the violent killing of Deborah happened, ..a Muslim friend I've known since forever said she deserved to die ...he's not a northerner ....in fact he lives in northern Ireland.....

Someone that we talk about the senseless shootings in America, killings the south east nigeria...but as soon as the evil is carried out by his fellow Islamic brothers....it becomes justified

obonujoker:
Like the islamic sultan of Sokoto

And all the Islamic law makers...and governors, etc....they all the same....filled in their heart is dark, vile, hatred and desire to dominate and kill those that are not muslim.....

Benzigler:
It's good as death, i don't know how they believe they could Islamize the whole Nigeria with their violence and backward religion

That's how they took Iran.....piece by piece....with violence backed by leaders who support the islamic rule....

Penguin2:
Don’t jumble things together so you don’t confuse yourself?

Where did I say Mary’s womb purified Jesus?

The line of argument has been that Mary was made holy so as not to corrupt the humanity of Christ which would have automatically vitiated his divinity.

Don’t mix things up.

Is her womb not her body??.....ur claim that she was made holy: so what was made holy??

If there must be a separate need to make Mary holy so as not to corrupt The Lord Jesus, then Joseph would have been made holy for both sperm and egg to make Jesus....

Which makes Ur line of argument is total fallacy...

Just as tagging Mary the mother of all believers is a truckload of fallacy ...

and Mary Being prayed to an even greater fallacy

AqualinaXYZ:
Wait oo



So Muslims dey fear Trump ?



No wonder they never wanted him to be reelected



But why are they scared of him?



Omo see panics left and right

Its not really about fear.... A Muslim will rather want a terrorist, d£vlish, vampire Muslim to be ruler of America or anywhere in the world than any type God fearing Christian.....

First rule of being a muslim....Muslims don't antagonize each other.whether violent ones cutting pple's head or so called peaceful ones defending their religion by calling it religion of peace even when their brothers are killing infidels.... ...that's why it doesn't matter to them whether their oga slept with a 9 year old or a 6 year old or the wife of his adopted son...

At the end of the day ...any non-muslim killed is an infidel to them....it's allowed by their god and pr0phet

Abdul05:
Good question....Nigeria is not an islamic republic..

It is a secular federation that allows each state some level of legal independence...

That is the balance of our system.....unity (as in one nigeria) but in diversity.... I hope you get this?


Meaning is that..every state has right to preserve its culture and belief..

As long as it stays within the national law..

The laws should not contradict each other....California in America cannot have a law that prevents girls from going to school when the United states has a whole have laws that mandate education for all children....

Shariah law literaly allows arresting of Christians for not using hijab, having boyfriend in hostel, arresting male for hair cut not considered Islamic standards....it even allows the execution of people for being offended by what someone says....this is a misdemeanor under state laws... Laws in a country must not greatly contradict.....u Muslims are abusing shariah law and using it to harass non Muslim and the ultimate a is to subdue and take over

Elusive001:
Just observe. Muslims are the only ones angry that the USA wants to fight against Boko haram, ISWAP, etc. This shows that they have never been against the killings as they pretend to make some gullible peeps believe.

If the terrorists are killings muslims as they claim, one would expect them to happy that the USA wants to take action, but alas, they are angry.

They put out this devils back into society and the army tagging them repentant terrorist... If they are are truly affected by the killings, they won't do that nonsense...

And one thing I've come to learn about Muslims is that they don't tackle each other, weda it's the violent or the so called peaceful ones, especially when it comes to killing anyone Christians, Jews or anyone they tag as infidels..

because their prophet did it to advance the cause of Islam.....and the truth is..the outcome of this killings if it doesn't stop is the take over of Nigeria piece by piece by an Islamic caliphate

Penguin2:
Take it slowly; one step at a time.

Now, you believe in the powers of God to breathe Jesus into Mary without the sperm of Joseph but you don’t believe in the power of the same God to purify the abode of Christ for 9 months?

It will be a principality level of fallacy and the witchcraft level of cognitive bias to believe mary's womb purified Jesus...

the reason is simple.... The divinity of jesus is already a recorded fact and that's why Joseph was not needed in the equation...

The reason Jesus Christ had to come in flesh and blood is also already a recorded fact... Other wise he would have appeared from the sky just as he would be returning....??

So ...so his divinity couldn't have started during embryogenesis....

Okay....did the womb of Mary also confer on jesus the power to forgive sins, heal and do all the miracles?? ...or u are just cherry picking what the womb did??

Lets look it from the angle of fallen angels with more than human abilities crossing with humans to birth progenies with extra ordinary phenotype.....are u now saying the women the lay with had to have holy womb to produce those heavenly attributes the angels carried ?? ...

See ehn....if putting a mother title and some sort of divinity tag on Mary makes u sleep well at night that you have both a heavenly mother and father....that fine......... But there is no recorded scriptural or revelational basis for it so much that y'all Catholics even kneel to her image and pray to her ...