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ivanovic havin it rily easy wit young,wish nani was in d match squad.well i believe goin forward in d 2nd half we nid to hav SCHOLES on d pitch so he can find d wingers wit EARLY balls, also we could call on chicharito to come on for welbeck somtym in d 2nd half

anoda goal dt can be linked either intimately or remotely to CAPTAIN Evra

seems mata is playing behind torres in dis match wit malouda out on d left,

hmmm is vermalaen abt to go on anoda hospital visit?

haba i thot torres was ur guy , wat a way to show him ur love,asking him to mark d most in form winger in England presently
we hav a horrendous record at Stamford Bridge so though we r in beta form than chelsea it could still b a tough game.havin said dt if d trio of rooney,nani n valencia r on point we will cop all 3 points

concerning tevez obviously fergie had seen ahead n knew dt tevez was a colomental guy wit no decorum,no class(as a person NOT a player o) n no understanding of d words LOYALTY n TEAM.coupled wit his soulless n amoral master/agent joorabchian fergie decided he wasnt worth it n he has bin proved correct.
dats y i am givin him d benefit of d doubt in dis ravel morrison wahala, only tym will tell sha

so coogar united has a big game away at stamford bridge and u had to hav just one player who would u have?
rooney or berbatov? berba is a talented player but cos of d way United play(n hv always played) i.e tryin to play uptempo with wide wing play,overlappin fullbacks n quick direction switches with long balls rooney is a better fit for a united attacker
i have noticed u love ur stats so much, well stats r good n could help wit analysis e.t.c BUT this is soccer men n debates dont begin n end wit stats
FIFA,UEFA,CAF e.t.c dont use stats to decide who to give their footballer of d year awards,do they? football is as much an art as it is a science,if not more so, so just reading n reeling stats cant take d place of watching d game play itself.

ok o any gist online or r we goin to keep comparin our players like one cheeky guy said earlier
it seems terry will make d match after all,but how will chelsea set up in defence , specifically who plays leftback for them? bertrand,luiz,malouda?

rooney has d ability to play n win matches even whn d team is off form,berba rily doesnt.
if rooney's bottom level is lower than beba's then u must agree dt rooney's top level is much higher than berbatov's.
rooney is more dynamic,more versatile n has greater ability to bring oda team mates into d game AND very importantly he makes players around him better.more often than not he carries d team unlike berba

LOL at least u NOW agree he is 70%.
all those calling for his head should remember how difficult it might be for any striker we try to sign as replacement to settle in(think of torres,carroll,kezman,sheva,dion dublin,afonso alves,chris sutton) u just never know with strikers.
we have d best strike force IMO in d premiership n any changes we nid r in midfield.our 4th choice striker weda na welbeck,berba or chicharito would start in most oda premier league teams.who is 4th choice at chelsea,arsenal,liverpool e.t.c any diagnostic investigations to our malaise shud b in midfield and d question is more serious than many think.d root question is do we continue to play a 2 man midfield in conformity wit our tradition or do we adapt to current trends n play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 i.e 3 midfielders.WHEN SAF answers dt in his own mind we will know wt kind of midfield additions we require

u mentioned ratio n u r mentionin raw numbers! egba mi o! ur calculator dt calculated all those oda stats to 15 decimal places couldnt calculate pass completion percentage abi? in dt stat where welbeck has slightly better stats ur calculator run down.
this is a tiresome argument,i havnt said welbeck is better than chicharito or vice versa but u seem to read only wt u want to see, for clarity !let me capitalize
WELBECK HAS MADE MORE IMPROVEMENT THAN CHICHARITO SINCE 2010! shikena

and those stats dont exactly show who is better
according to them
welbeck has played about 110mins more than chicharito
chicharito has scored 1 goal more
welbeck has 1 more assist
welbeck has 1 more shot on target
chicharito's shot accuracy is about 3% better than welbeck's
welbeck has made 1 key pass more
welbeck's pass completion is about 0.7% better than chicharito's
so i dont see much of a gulf btw them, AND anyway like i said in an earlier post stats dont always show d true picture (when i mentioned lies,damned lies n statistics)

READ AGAIN
i did not say welbeck was better than chicharito, i said compared to their 2010 levels welbeck has had greater improvement,there is a difference!

and if u r bin honest check it between hernandez and welbeck who has made more improvement as a player since 2010?
analyse where chicharito's game was in 2010 and where welbeck's game was in 2010 and compare to where they are now? i tink it will b obvious to anyone dt welbeck's game is improving at a faster rate than chicharito's(if d mexican's game has improved at all).he arrived as a deadly poacher and he is still a poacher and nothing else, welbeck on d other hand was a pacy player wit little strength n even less goal sense but dts not exactly d case now

i agree dt we tend to waste setpieces, free kicks,corners n even somtyms penalties.no penalty specialist,no freekick specialist n even if d balls delivered into d box r great we hv few aerial powerhouses
@staroard, from d teenage years to about 23-24yrs d age of a player matters in terms of his development n xpectations from his coaches.
dats y Ajax kept Pius Ikedia in their books from age 19 to age 25 thinkin he was going to grow taller n develop his football sense.but despite all their high protein diet d guy no grow in height o,e just dey thick dey fat . dem no know say bros dey use football age!

yeah chicharito looked a bit off yday sha but against a stoke team playin away n sure to sit back it wasnt d kinda game for him, but chelsea playin at home shud give him space playin behind d defence.however i am happy wit rooney n welbeck startin upfront n hernandez n berba on d bench wit scholes,park,evans n jones(or fabio)

LOL so u still want welbeck to start? in dis particular match however with chelsea at home n surely goin to play a higher line than team like stoke n everton,with chelsea's unsettled defence i tink hernandez' runs in behind n his general movement would b better.
of course valencia on d ryt,his left peg is for standin remember? wonder who will play left back for chelsea? bertrand,david luiz? valencia is currently on fire

we can play rafael,smalling,rio,evra at d back, carrick n giggs in midfield(only cos d chelsea midfield is as mobile n dynamic as Michaelangelo's statue of David)
rooney,nani n valencia behind ur boy chicharito.
dis is a match in which numerous gaps would appear in d chelsea backline esp cos they r playin at home n so will attack n also cos calamity luiz will b there plus or minus new boy cahill n MINUS Cole, infact a gud recipe for a nice meal of little peas

i doubt it,cleverly esp wont b match fit cos its bin a long tym since he played.we myt b able to cope with our present midfield wt is imperative is dt we get rooney n nani fit to face dt chelski defence.i want to see how they would line up without ashley cole

meanwhile dis oxlade guy is makin weaving runs dt walcott will never make in his life! he can actually weave n dribble in tight spaces

well using ur forehand when u should use ur backhand means you would have to move way off d central area of d court to execute,puttin u at a great disadvantage especially if d ball is returned to d open side u arent covering.so tennis players hav to learn both fore n back, however naturally most players r more proficient wit their forehands cos its anatomically easier n its a more powerfulful shot hence they practice n use it more.
HOWEVER their exceptions like andre agassi,jim courier,david nalbandian n these days murray n davydenko, one must mention justin henin's one handed backhand(probably d most beautiful shot in all of tennis)

u INTENTIONALLY missed d point , d point was dt drogba improved all those areas of his game wit tym n bcame world class even wit his questionable technique
welbeck should b given tym to improve he will get bigger,stronger n mayb even faster nd his finishing will improve.he just doesnt hav to start so often at dis stage in his career.pls na dont obscure d truth when makin points, chicharito has a gud 1st touch? haba mallam!
concerning valencia he is d result of street football upbringing n defective education, remember he came to united at d ripe old age of 24, far too late at dt point.
its like a tennis talent who learnt by wackin oranges by d banks of d irrawady river n never learned backhand coming to nick bolleteri's school at age 20, even bolleteri would not b able to help his backhand

there r videos of silvestre making great tackles or gibson makin great tackles n 40yard passes,that doesnt make them xperts at dt skill.for every video u post of hernandez wit a gud 1st touch there 50 videos of his horrendous first touch killing a united move! when a move involves hernandez at d beginning or somewhere in d middle rather than at d end IT DIES.
there were many coaches in france who said drogba lacked d technique,finishing n stamina to make it in top flight football.at age TWENTY FOUR after 4 seasons in d french DIVISION 2 he had scored TWELVE GOALS(IN 4 YEARS),he finally lost his place to daniel cousin(remember him) who they said was faster n hd beta technique.
welbeck does not pick himself for these matches,fergie does, all welbeck does is train hard n wait for team list to arrive so get off his back n jump on fergie's.i am not saying danny shud b starting so many matches but his performances hav bin beta than all of chelsea's strikers,most of arsenal's n most of d rest of d leagues(bar mayb mancity n tott forwards).
i just feel we should get behind our strikers, they arent doin too badly d problem is in midfield and wit evra's recurrent lapses n of course at d goal keeper position

coogar there is no such thing as a perfect striker and even if there was his name wouldnt be javier hernandez! his finishing is topnotch,his runs r great and he has great anticipation also BUT he sometimes has d 1st touch of a female elephant in labour,body strength of a lily and as to d passes HE is d one who almost always overhits or underhits his passes! once a move gets to hernandez before he is in d box n its not a one on one wit d keeper e.g back to defender or out on d wings or tightly marked i know dt move will fizzle out.
they both nid extramural classes n berba nids to go n b sublime elsewhere

when chicharito made his debut for united he was ALREADY 22,had played 4 seasons of senior football at chivas and played in d world cup
welbeck just turned 21(he still is ONE YEAR younger NOW than chicharito was at his debut) and has limited big game experience so pls you people should give him a chance!
my belief is they are still both young,talented,very hungry,eager to learn, with great attitudes SO i hope d club keeps both cos they could rily b great in d future.
however singling out one striker especially ur youngest isnt d way to go, they both hav positives n negatives n i pray d negatives get erased off as time passes.
berbatov makes it difficult for fergie to choose him regularly with his languid style, dt style doesnt work well when ur midfield is carrick,scholes or carrick giggs.
u cant hav too many luxury players hovering round dt midfield cos it xposes us at d back.wit sickbay ferdi n sojourner evra at d back we nid guys to run  n close up ryt from d front.berbatov is a very talented player but not all talents can play at one's club ,i would like him to go exhibit his sublime talents elsewhere, keep rooney,welbeck,chicharito n get a younger,skillful bt more athletic player to replace berbatov

@starboard hernandez and welbeck are not abt d same age like u said.d mexican is TWO N A HALF years older than welbeck so u shouldnt tink their development will b at d same stage plus chicharito is a regular international n hs played n scored in d world cup so i believe i am ryt to say he is OLDER n more EXPERIENCED.
go n check d development of van nistelrooy,thierry henry n several other players dt went on score goals by d bucketloads n u will see dt many were not prolific at 21 and even some of them hadnt showed signs of how good they were going to be.this is not a referendum on weda welbeck is beta than hernandez BUT wt i am saying is for his age,xperience he is not doing too badly and such negative criticism from fans is not helping anyone.
and d point dt chicharito is an excellent poacher so dts enuf is dangerous advice for d young boy,poachers r a dying breed cos football is evolving, its not enuf for a guy to hide for 80 minutes n then just tap in a brace.strikers hav to b hardworkers who get involved in build up weda tru d wings,tru d middle or wit their back to goal.
if chicharito doesnt build up his physique,technique n general team play not only will he b shipped out of united he myt not achieve his potential.
welbeck on d other hand while still raw has beta technique n team play than d mexican.
talking abt welbecks finishing,despite andy coles impressive goal scoring he was never described as a clinical finisher.welbeck will get stronger,more intelligent n become a beta finisher at old trafford BUT i agree ferguson should not b playing too often for now

fergie gives pogba extended minutes to rub morrison's face in it

exactly! ruud van nistelrooy was a great poacher but much more than just a poacher,alan shearer was an all round striker fantastic wit his back to goal nd an excellent crosser of d ball.you calling sheringham a poacher makes u doubt if u ever watched him at united or even earlier at spurs.teddy was everything but a poacher, he was a very intelligent n creative support striker

i get ur beef but i think we should keep him n give him tym,even if he isnt so young in terms of age he is relatively young in d 1st team.he cost us nothing we can bring in beta strikers n if dey gel gud, if nt we hv him rooney,him n chicharito.d problems r in midfield,for all of our possession against liverpool we didnt create too many clearcut chances,it was a chelsea like performance.
p.s andy cole was equally maligned early on in his united career too for bin technically limited n bin wasteful in goal and dis was for a goal machine bought from newcastle.just give d boy a little tym!
d guys we should b criticizing are guys dt SHOULD know better especially stand in CAPTAIN PATRICE EVRA!
several tyms in d last 2 seasons he has bin at fault for goals, low points bin against barca n esp against city(he rily ran mad against city).d major problem wit evra is dt he is nt makin mistakes of stamina or speed but makin mistakes of decision making n (IN)EXPERIENCE, issues dt should nt arise from a player who is current captain,an ex international captain n who hs started several champs league finals.

and please enuf wit d comparisons with maradona n romario! d guy hasnt done ANYTHING in football n he is already acting up, all d  great egos in united under fergie hav all bin great trainers n most listened to fergie.one of d things fergie did on becomin united manager was xpellin d group of "natural talents" in d squad who hated trainin n loved boozin,am talkin abt norman whiteside,paul mcgrath e.t.c   fergie is used to young talents who want to train n listen,players with more talent than morrison might ever have e.g scholes,rooney,ronaldo,becks.
dis boy is obviously an antisocial element with SERIOUS personality issues n fergie has calculated dt d damage he would do to team spirit n morale is more than d ability he would bring to d pitch, a tree cannot make a forest

@ruudie, welbeck is 21 n not goin to b 22 until november .i agree he still has issues wit his game but i do believe dt he still can improve.you peeps are maligning him for his poor technique but chicharito who is older n more xperienced actually is much worse than welbeck! how many times hav u seen hernandez successfully dribble an opponent?  how many times hav u seen chicharito score with a shot from outside d box? and i know dt truout his career at old trafford anytime chicharito gets involved in buildup of a move rather than b d last person to tap in d finished product he tends to spoil d move.welbeck is stronger than chicharito,a better passer,a better team player,a better crosser, chicharito is a better finisher.welbeck is still improving n should b given tym to prove himself.
i for one am tired of berbatov in dis squad, a player like berbatov is gud when u hav a dynamic n dominant midfield but wit dis our threadbare n barebones midfield he is a LIABILITY!, and d wrong side of 30.he isnt great for dis team short term wit d midfield like it is n he wont b any gud long term wit his age.
like some one said earlier it took C.Ronaldo a couple of seasons to mature on d big stage so lets give d youing guys like de gea,welbeck e.t.c some support rather than crush their fragile confidence.
regarding d morrison issue its a real pity but its not d end of d world, fergie tried to gt gazza n shearer twice n failed but united still went on to dominate d 90s,so losing morrison isnt wt will cause united's decline.an 18yr old who is a gang member,who was charged wit witness intimidation,arrested several times for assaulting his girlfriend,assaulting his own mother,a player who doesnt respect his team mates enuf to turn up for practice ,a boy who doesnt respect d most decorated coach in football.MAYBE its a gud idea he learns his football lessons elsewhere

he came a game late,we needed him against Liverpool, wil never forget his FA Cup winner against them(1996 i tink).poor match but great goal

d last stroke of cane on d issue smalling nd evans must SHARE d blame, along with De Gea! now d issue has bin officially overflogged.now pls who hs squad news for our next match