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i rily want to see more of fryers cos i tink evra needs d relief n also a bit of competition.fryers is physically mature from d little i hav seen powerful n pacy.
i wonder if there r some technical deficiencies in his game dt necessitates d delay by fergie in fully blooding him.and if fergie believes he is not ready then fabio shud get some minutes.i dont hav d stats but i am sure evra has played more minutes than any other united player over d last 3 or 4 seasons.almost always starts n rarely gets subbed,starting to tell on d guy

d guy's fat cheeks are not due to good gealth o! they are amost surely due to d corticosteroids he is having to take to induce a remission in his disease.a major side effect of d steroids is weight gain especially in d face (known as moon face)

of course everybody knows dt rio's days r numbered,d guy is a sick old man wit back issues dt will never go away(at least on d football pitch).
having said dt d guy is still needed FOR NOW not just cos vidic is out but cos of his on field n off field leadership n his xperience n calmness.cos if there is any single reason united is still in dis title race its cos of our edge in EXPERIENCE right from d manager down to d players.its not talent,its not luck and its not(despite wt our detractors say) bribery.
I pray vidic recovers fully from his injury and from next season mayb we will see a smalling n vidic partnership with rio used only for relief

evans and smalling SHOULD be the pairing. . . .smalling would attack the ball like vidic and evans would clean up.
i agree with u in theory dt should b d ideal partnership at d moment but d problem with evans seems to b psychological.once he isnt partnering rio or vida he starts making terrible individual errors like slipping when he is d last man or stepping on d ball n falling over or his favourite heading d ball straight up into d air(i'm talking 90 degrees) while he is in our box.for d future i will place more trust on d smalling n jones partnership,i tink there is more potential in dat

only watched 1st half, hd to attend my friend's wedding.evans' performances hv improved of late but i suspect he would always need a"senior" partner like rio or vida to bring d best out of him,place him beside smalling n he once again becomes journeyman evans.

@dipo+ wat i can say if u don't understand without been enlightened why rio acted d way he did as a black man (and d brother of a victim of racism) then i am not sure coogar or any of us here can help u.all dt has been revealed to us during dis never ending story is d absence of any modicum of decency in dis turd called suarez.i like him as a player but as a human being he is a troglodyte.d guy is never far from controversy: from his days in holland where he fought a team mate in d tunnel afta a dispute over who should take free kicks (for which he was suspended) to when he bit an opponent on d shoulder (received another lengthy suspension),its obvious dis guy's mindset n personality r tangential to d rules of society.dis is a guy dt most people here on NL would hav problems shaking hands with on basic principle.
In rio's eyes dis was YET ANOTHER racist (afta terry's attack on his brother) who was impenitent and smug enuf to add insult to injury IN HIS HOUSE.
there is a time for peace and there is a time to TAKE A STAND, there is a time for respect and there is a time for DIGNITY.Rio decided dt it was tym for d latter and i couldnt agree more with him

pls dont get into a torres argument with coogar o,i hav learnt my lesson.if torres continues in dis (lack of) form for years and keeps wasting sitters and 1 v 1 opportunities coogar will blame everybody but torres! saint torres can do no wrong in his eyes

d guy should be able to bear d consequences of his actions,after all he was playing d lord n master before.his actions could have cost u a rejection at an embassy for instance and i am sure he has caused delay if not ruined people's lives with his attitude.allow d bank to knack him akpako!

1)drogba is highly motivated in dis tournament cos tym is running out for dis "golden generation" of Ivorians to win d big one in Africa.
2)he is with his boys n so he is relaxed n happy dts y his record playing for his country is fantastic
3)d quality of defending and especially d pace of most of d defenders is not up to EPL standard, did u see d escort service provided for Gervinho by the Malian defenders?

debate don change,its now d merits of a cripple versus a dimwit or a coward
anywayz last last wt i am trying to say is WHAT is happening to torres might b permanent.Now d tag u attach to d "WHAT" is at ur discretion.some may call it loss of ability,others may call it loss of confidence and others may call it loss of akpakoability.
nateevs says ability is just but an ingredient dt contibutes with oda assets to make d PLAYER,DK says ability is d sum total of all d player's assets.any other contributions on d meaning of ability in football?

abi o,nateevs is just nit-picking jo! no need to hav semantics debate on d meaning of ability.so to avoid any further criticism i will use a word dt we all should agree with, OUTPUT! defined as d amount of energy,work,goods or services produced by a machine,factory,company or individual over a period of time.
some players lose their OUTPUT suddenly before 30 and torres might be d latest

coogar u r high on ur body odour
weda u call it ability,capability,performance level or even morale.d fact is dt even great players become crap players somtyms before 30.
weda due do loss of physical strength or due to loss of mental fortitude or its due to pyschological warfare.

Kaka lost his mojo at 27 when he was one of d top 2 or 3 players in d world and most of us would agree dt he is YET to get it back.d guy is turning 30 soon,any bets on him getting back to d top?

AND LAST WEEK i was still saying i want berba out of united.i havnt changed my mind abt d guy,let him go n showcase his abilities elsewhere!
FYI losing ur ability doesnt mean u cant regain it.
as per losing abilities before 30 hav u not bin reading d posts? KEZMAN,FOWLER,DEISLER,KLUIVERT,QUARESMA,DENILSON,RONALDINHO,JARDEL,

i would b happy for him!
check my earlier posts i hav always said its POSSIBLE he has lost his mojo forever n its POSSIBLE he myt yet find it.hav also said he MIGHT b next great player to peak too early.my grouse wit ur position is ur refusal to accept dt he indeed has LOST HIS MOJO! weda he has lost it permanently or weda he will regain it only tym will tell. but for now stop blaming d texture of d stamford bridge grass,d humidity in London d Candela value of d chelsea jersey, infact u hav blamed everybody n everything but d one person who can actively do something abt it EL NINO

dats is where we differ,players do lose ability at 27 and any age for dt matter.i hav taken d pains in earlier posts to discuss dis in more detail.it happens regularly in football,dis just myt b d latest.do u remember gaizka mendietta? he was 27 when he lost his ability PERMANENTLY!
wt leads to dis loss of ability varies from player to player; indiscipline,debauched lifestyle,marital woes,injuries or even force majeure! football history is littered with d names of players who peaked early or suddenly lost their ability(and i am not counting Africans like nii odartey lamptey o)

abeggi! u r back to ur 2008 yarns! I hav bin tellin u to stop dis torres climbed kilmanjaro 1n 2008 n torres outscored julio iglesias in 2008 mantra! sWE DON HEAR O! now wt concerns abramovic,chelsea fans n footie fans in general is wt did he do in 2011 n wt is he doin in2012. if we r to use past glory to judge present quality then chelsea shud bring back peter osgood n jimmy greaves,afterall they ONCE were prolific!
torres was once one of d best,agreed but he has obviously lost IT n myt never find IT again.

just like u to select d portion of my post in "agreement" with u nd disregard d rest!
well we both know dt an rvp miss nd a torres miss wont generate d same reactions,d same way an almunia howler nd a buffon howler wont b viewed d same

van persie missed an easier chance,maybe, but since he is scoring almost every week it wont b logical or reasonable to question his PRESENT quality.
torres on d other hand has also missed his fair share of sitters but he is averaging a goal a semester! in his case since he mostly does is NOT SCORE in contrast to rvp(he mostly SCORES) it is not out of place to start doubting d man

by d way d torres assist is only an assist cos JUAN MATA SCORED.if d roles were reversed nd it was mata crossing for torres,instead of taking it first time he would have brought it down n had his usual 2,3,4 touches until either rio or evans closed him down and d opportunity would have bin lost!
assess all d clearcut chances,half chances nd even quarter chances dt torres has had all season then in place of torres put chicharito or rvp or stephen fletcher or demba ba or demba cisse or defoe or, or, or ANY of d DOZENS of strikers in world football who r better NOW(NOT 2008 Coogar) than torres do u tink they wont hv a beta return than d poor guy?
excuses n excuses,dts all we get from his supporters.d players r too old,d players r too slow,d players dont speak Spanish,Drogba is killing his swag,Mata is not playin DIRECTLY  behind him.haba!

only an eternal optimist will infer dt torres will perform elsewhere from wat he has offered elsewhere.mentionin barca is d greatest fallacy of all since he has bin woeful wit d same set of midfielders i.e xavi,busquets,cesc,iniesta in d national team.bear in mind dt he most likely would hav it tougher playin for barca cos barca's domination of most teams is so absolute dt teams tend to sit deeper n deeper in their box effectively parkin d bus, nd we all know dt d unrepentant torres apologisits claim he needs space behind d defence to run into for xpert tru passes,well he wont find space behind defences while playin for barca.
what alot of people r finding hard to swallow is dt someone so talented can lose form permanently, well it does happen in football n its not even dt rare an occurence
1)FOWLER at 20 was so good dt d Kop called him GOD, by 27 he was done
2)QUARESMA was rated even more highly than crisitiano ronaldo as teenager, he has gone on to b a journeyman footballer
3)RONALDINHO was untouchable for a few years but his spectacular fall is still fresh in our memories
4)MARIO JARDEL one of d most prolific strikers of d modern era lost his touch at 29.
there r countless others KEZMAN.BROLIN,DENILSON e.t.c
its possible he gets back his mojo but its also possible he never gets back to his old form esp since he gets older everyday , weda he remains at chelsea or he plays for barca,stoke,udinese or tonnerre kalara!

but d issue is i rarely see other fans complain like u guys,like u guys r bin targeted or somtin.afta rio's tackle on ben arfa united fans here did not spend 2 days vilifying d ref.d smart cookies amongst u guys will realize dt focusing on ref decisions will only direct attention away from where u should b analysing i.e d SHORTCOMINGS of d team n its manager.
d same way United fans should not b celebrating too much abt d result cos it just papered over d cracks d showed up in d united defence.like i said earlier both teams can take some positives as well as negatives from d match,dt should b d focus rather than lookin for d easy way out n blaming d ref

somtyms i doubt if dis football teams have a background video room staff d way they hav in American sports! nd if they do they surely dont carry out post-game analysis lyk d NBA n NFL teams.d number of tyms football teams repeat d same mistakes is alarming e.g d Giggs error dt Montelik picked up n errors by Evans,Evra,Carrick (our most notorious repeat offenders).
P.S dt DE GEA save was world class

diggz u bonehead, since when did players get red cards for diving(assuming it was a dive).
well if u tink we r criminals at least we can be reformed but u on d other hand r a dimwitted slowpoke, there is no redemption for you!
now starboard said u xchanged ur brain for porridge,i dont tink so, u couldnt hav bin born wit a brain in d 1st instance(dats anencephaly,check it up).
so please carry ur tympanitic skull comot from here, u freak of nature!
@lalaboi wetin b confused.com na? now dt u hav bin challenged on ur position u r withdrawin into ur shell? our earlier posts were without insults lets keep it dt way.starboard n others hav made d valid point dt chelsea n other clubs hv benefited from refereeing decisions in d recent past and even had some favorable calls earlier in dis particular match.real football fans here should not let emotions n anger becloud their analysis n debates,instead of going apoplectic n throwin tantrums abt d referee,try n b objective

d ref was d star? ok o continue talkin abt him then.
so United get away wit lots of pushing in d box do we? dis coming from a team dt has hd Huth,Gallas,Carvalho(or CARVALHO),Luiz,Ivanovic,Alex n of course Terry in its defence in d last decade! remember all d pushin n shovin ur boys meted out on Victor Valdez n his protectors,remember all d cynical kicks Luiz gave Rooney in d match last season? kicks dt went unpunished before he scored.u were d one talkin abt laffin later when karma comes to bite us in d butt ryt? i think u got it twisted, dis is karma coming to bite YOU in d derriere for last season's Luiz shenanigans and payback is a beeyatch!

instead of havin a gud debate abt d match itself n performances of players peeps r jumpin on d bandwagon of United is PDP, will dt help Chelsea goin forward?
key points in d match dt Chelsea fans shud b discussing include 1) Torres' inability to even take a shot n make it 4-2 when he was played in on goal
2)how Chicharito's movement killed Luiz for d equalizer:talkin abt Luiz he has physical talents but mentally he is not there yet and he lacks one essential ingredient of a world class defender AWARENESS!    3)Essien didnt hav a bad day at d office considering how long he has bin out, he didnt actually motor like d Bison of old but he along wit Meireles kept things competitive in d middle of d park   4) Mata had a free role n played most of d game in behind Torres yet we didnt see too many of d tru passes Torres apologists hv bin predicting, maybe its cos Torres rarely shows for d passes(since he knows he will fluff them like he did when he had only dunderhead Evans to contend with)

spurs to win 3-2

meanwhile nobody mentioned Andy Johnson stretching his leg far out to make contact with d Fulham defender for City's all important first goal!
dt was GOOD LUCK for City but if it happens to United its a CONSPIRACY.
abeg lets analyse d match itself i.e game play rada than ref decisions

isnt it his job to SEE things on d pitch? nd neither am i defending d ref,but d fact is refs r human n somtyms make mistakes n dis mistakes r amplified in big games.
however 2 ascribe such calls to some sinister CONSPIRACY everytime it favours united and to attribute it to LUCK when it favours other clubs or goes against united is simply disingenuous!
both teams have certain positives as well as negatives to take from dis match(on analysis) so to lay d outcome of d match at d feet of d ref is like i said very lazy n intellectually supine

whats all dis about who it hurts more, wt is factual is dt u dropped 2 points AT HOME afta going 3 goals up wit half an hour left!
blaming it on d ref is a lazy argument used by those fans wit selective memory! when ferdinand was punished for a clean world class tackle on ben arfa d conspiracy theorists were nowhere to b found,now united is benefiting everybody is anxious to yarn.refs do make mistakes n 2 seasons ago it was chelsea benefittin at d xpense of united now d tables hav turned so, DEAL WITH IT(or not, ur choice).
talkin abt physics n connin d ref,d rule books dont mention d direction d player falls to! d mere fact dt his(ashley young's) shirt was pulled makes it a FOUL, weda he falls forward,backward,sideways,stands still or even miraculously levitates.penalties hav bin awarded for tugs dt didnt involve falls.its not a question of weda d player tried to con d ref or not, d question is was he impeded, was he fouled?

na sooooooooo, chicharito!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

united fans will come on now and start blaming welbeck!  evra is having a stinker in defence (as usual), said it somtym ago dt he is a serious weak link in our defence
but people r deceived by his overlapping runs n pace