European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:18pm On May 23, 2022 |
CapitalCee: Exactly. Well as longer as Fletcher does not over reach his boundary he can remain as a lame duck, what I dont want is to everbsee him near the technical area, ETH should restrict him to his office What do we need a lame duck for when other serious clubs have competent people in those roles? Technical director that is on the side lines barking instructions. And you think it is okay to have a lame duck as TD? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:03pm On May 23, 2022 |
nitrogen: Makes sense. Got it now. I just don’t like that guy abeg! Thank God he’s gone.  That is why i said hatred was interfering with understanding. I would listen/read first in order to understand the point, not just attack because i don't like the person. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:55pm On May 23, 2022 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]The meaning I read too [/color] If one calms down and reads between the lines the meaning is clear. For example Dalot will be here next season but AWB most likely won't. That does not mean Dalot will be starting RB next season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:46pm On May 23, 2022 |
nitrogen: Wait, try to understand this stuff. Starting 11 players, you want to keep 10. So where is the overhaul coming from? What about releasing 4-5 starting 11 players vs just 1? Except I am mis-interpreting the quote. He was talking about the specific starting 11 that played the final match against Crystal Palace. 10 of them will be here next season and very likely many of them will just be squad players. The message he was trying to pass across is that the job of any body who was not in that particular starting line-up is not safe. That was a subliminal at people like Shaw, AWB, Bailly, Martial, Rashford e.t.c But you were in a hurry to make sure you didn't understand him. And you succeeded magnificently. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:41pm On May 23, 2022 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]So he should throw away 25 players at once?
Na so good players and deals dey easy to find?
Make Una no kill ETH abeg. [/color] You sef no shock for body? Because the players are not good the club should sell all 30 of them and buy another 30 from Shoprite.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:33pm On May 23, 2022 |
nitrogen: But the question is valid. How can you be talking about an overhaul and 10 out of starting 11 will stay? It does not make sense to me. It does not make sense cause you don't want it to make sense. And nothing anybody can say will it make it make sense to you. Does that make sense?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:30pm On May 23, 2022 |
CapitalCee: I just hope so, Although ETH seem not to care what Rangnick have to say.
Please What are the functions of a Director of football? Yeah. It seems like it. My own is that ETH should be given all the support he needs. If he does not want to work with Rangnick then Rangnick should be completely let go. This consultancy role is too vague. Why is Darren Fletcher the Technical Director? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:27pm On May 23, 2022 |
Karleb:
  E no shock you? A manager is confirming that at least 10 out of about 30 registered players will be with the club next season and people are wondering why all 30 are not being sent packing. Because we can just go and pick up 30 players at Agboju market na. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:23pm On May 23, 2022 |
CapitalCee: And you think ETh was not alerted before the countract was renewed? Crazier things have happened in this club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:21pm On May 23, 2022 |
CapitalCee: Rangnick should stay far away from the Club, the man is a dunce. He has lost touch with reality Being a coach/manager and being a DoF are 2 different roles. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:58pm On May 23, 2022 |
Ellexy: Ten Hag asked if he endorses Rangnick's consultancy role at #mufc: "That is on the club." #mulive
Shaa mai no too read meaning into this  LOL. The meaning is clear nah. That consultancy role dey vague. They should just fire Fletcher and give Rangnick is job. To avoid stories that touch. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:55pm On May 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Omo make United sell Bruno, VDB should be able to hold that position down in ETH system. I also hope Ten Haag is bold enough to ask for the sale of players not suited to his style, no more excuse abeg oooh. Bruno has no role in ETH's style of play. That new contract will turn out to be another major mistake by the board. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:53pm On May 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Who are this 10 players? Since it's a general consensus that all the players are not good enough. Or is Rafiu telling us the 10 players are now good enough? Ehn now. He should sell all 25 senior players to prove that they are not good enough. He will now buy 5 players and complete the team with Nairaland members.  You have to be calming down o. You are letting your hatred interfere with your understanding. Let us even assume that all the players are not good enough, do you expect the club to sell everybody and not keep anyone at all? Na you and nitrogen go complete the team?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:32pm On May 23, 2022 |
Oasis007: ETH asked if Harry Maguire will remain as Manchester United Captain: "Next season is a different season. He did a great job, he is a great player, achieved a lot with a contribution to Manchester United. I'm looking forward to working with him."  Eskis sir, you didn't answer the question. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:27pm On May 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Doc if you value your sanity, kindly avoid argument on Redcafe. I have been a full member for years, those oyinbo have so much biased for British players like kilode. If you see how some of them been dey praise Moyes sef that year .. Lol I know nah. I have been going there for several years but I am sure I don’t have up to 10 posts there. Na for there you go see person wey know the players from birth. How you wan take argue?  Shoretire’s father is a member. Greenwood’s neighbour dey there. Where the logic wan come from ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:36am On May 23, 2022 |
Ebukacute: AWB can improve if any good coach with enough patience will convert him to a CB . He can't play RB in this modern day football. No comment on mctominay. If ETH is not supported financially I'm sorry he would flop If converted to CB sef he will just be a lower level one. CBs don't go around slide tackling people you know. Reading the game and positioning is more important in that role. Not everybody is cut out to be at a top club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:15am On May 23, 2022 |
Ebukacute: 600 years for you guys next season if una no do overhaul oo  All these Fred,tominay,bissaka,Maguire,Baily,mata,martial, etc needs to leave. Na una fans overhype of below average players dey make una see them as good players. ETH or no ETH it is what it is Like i said, everything is a matter of time. Whether you hype or criticize a player, over time the truth will be revealed. Case in point, Neymar vs Hazard or Rashford vs Mbappe. Pep bought 8 first team players in his first season of joining Man City that finished 3rd the previous season while Klopp bought 6 players in his first off-season, but they want ETH to improve AWB, McTominay et al because his grandfather invented football.  Finally you are right sha. The fans have their own share of the blame. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:07am On May 23, 2022 |
There are people defending McTominay on Refcafe. They say all he needs is a good manager. So ETH might listen to them and keep McTominay, listen to Frederalists and keep Fred, listen to nitrogen and keep AWB.  Wahala! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:49am On May 23, 2022 |
patrickmuf: My problem with Ole is that he signed some of the useless players we are complaining about and stuck with others...
I don't blame Rangnick because he wasn't supported to change things... Rangnick could have done better to be fair but majority of the blame is still on the players. The league was already derailing which is why the previous manager was sacked in the first place. Many of the players gave up on the season somewhere around Dec/Jan. Imagine the club is in a do or die final match of the season that might lead to either Europa League or Conference League and up to 9 senior players are out for weeks with things like tonsillitis, bronchitis, "knock". There are little things that you keep noticing that let you know that if this group forms the core of ETH's team he won't last very long in the job. And oh, i have also read that he is not the most charismatic manager you will come across. If things start poorly these players will turn on him quickly like Alpo Martinez. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:40am On May 23, 2022 |
nitrogen: Loool. But we have spent a lot of money, and will continue to spend. So, no one is saving money for anyone. Na you want make ETH start next season with McFred, AWB and Telles na. That way e go prove himself and now spend too much money. ETH the mathematician. Proving formula since 1865.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:40pm On May 22, 2022 |
Oasis007:

RR Watch has come to an End. Thank you Mr. Innovator of ghen ghen footie. You did well and genuine Fans who understand the extent of Rots appreciate you.
Thanks for exposing the Club's real identity to the world. Thanks for helping to get ETH as our next Manager.
Thanks for giving Garmacho his senior debut and others. You'll be remembered for what you did, for the sacrifice to resetting the Club.
Thank you Sir Ralf Rangnick. Your darling manager abi  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:39pm On May 22, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:36pm On May 22, 2022 |
It is the mentality that it is only the manager that is the problem that got us here. If Woodward and his association of mumu roommates had realized the players they were buying were also poor they might have reorganized scouting and player development much earlier instead of stockpiling useless players. Imagine ETH comes in next season and believes the story that the players are good and only need better coaching, and he neglects to get proper replacements and starts the season with McFred, AWB, Telles, and co.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:24pm On May 22, 2022 |
nitrogen: I can agree if you say most full backs are runners and sprinters. You don't even have to agree. We will hopefully all still be here to witness it. These thing are always a matter of time. We are telling you that compared to other top full backs he lacks pace and strength, and those are 2 deficiencies that will cause problems for most modern full backs. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:17pm On May 22, 2022 |
Expert17: @bolded, that's my point.
The players are useless. Agreed.
What has Rauf done so far in his 30+ years coaching?? Gold medal Whataboutism. Raufu won't be here next season but those players you agreed are useless will still be o!  Make Season 2 no go bad pass Season 1. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:15pm On May 22, 2022 |
olabode89: You cannot be a fullback and be built like a teenager with the strength of a boy with no pubic hair. Look at Walker, Cancelo, Trent, etc. How many of them are as weak as Telles and also pretty slow? My guy dey talk about technical but not physical full backs.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:11pm On May 22, 2022 |
nitrogen: Physicality is not needed in every team. Some of Pep’s players are not physical. Some good/successful EPL players are technical but not physical. We are talking about full backs here. You need to research about the demands of the game on the modern full back. The requirements for each position are different. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:08pm On May 22, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:04pm On May 22, 2022 |
nitrogen: Yes now. Let’s be fair. Every top player has turned to shyte at Utd. Except maybe Ronaldo. That does not mean that you just use default setting and assume they are all good. You have to assess on a case by case basis to find out why each player struggled. Some have just been the wrong buys. Telles for example has no pace to overlap and no recovery pace to stay with attackers. He is not physically strong and gets pushed around easily thereby losing 1v1 tussles. Better coaching can indeed get his crossing back to his Porto days but that is about it. His physical limitations that have nothing to do with tactics makes me believe he won't be a success at the club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:58pm On May 22, 2022 |
nitrogen: Telles is a good player. Depends on style and taktics. Moreso, players regress when the play is shyte! Na so.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:57pm On May 22, 2022 |
olabode89: Na taktics make baba weak like 15 years old boy or make e no fit pass ball??  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:57pm On May 22, 2022 |
metodman: He can no defend. He can not run with the ball. He can not dribble His passes are ...... just there.
And we must good inwards ?  |