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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:42am On Aug 22, 2021
CapitalCee:
Doc, rhe main issue is not whether City has a better squad or not, the issue is Pep can confidently put in a player and you wont notice it, Klopp played Elliot today, Tuchel played Chalobah 2 consecutive big games, there mustn't be like for like in quality before a manager make changes, fitness issues and form needs to be considered. Solskjaer can decide not to use Mata, Lingard and James as much, yet have plantiful options to call upon. That Pep made changes is not just a function of City's depth, it has something to do with Pep's tactical acumen. Ole has Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and Cavani in attacking positions, there is enough embarrassment of talents to rotate freely, even Pogba can even play LW. He cant be complaining of lack of depth.

Nobody is saying we dont need a CDM, but can Ole get a solid 10/15 EPL games from Matic? Well spaced out to match his fitness? Mctoms or Fred can play there afterrall he knew his team strength before going into the season, Nobody will tell me that Ole earnestly needed another CDM and glazers refused to sign. Moreover we mustn't have 22 world class players to compete.

Can he get Mata to start 3/4 EPL games against very low opposition during the tight schedules to rest Bruno and co? Go and check the way Fergie uses his players in a season, Oshea, Fabio Brown Cleverly, Gibson, etc get games at the right time to ease off Vidic/Rio/Carrick/Fletcher, I remember clearly during 2008 and 2008 seasons G.Neviile is almost done but Fergie still start him in games, like 1 game per month or even 1 in 2 months. Saha returned from long term injury in 2008, Fergie found a role for him despite having many options in his position. Even he Ole himself returned from Injury in 2006, Fergie used him very sparingly but crucially due to his fitness and age, he scored some important goals. Ole will stick to a rule book, because he cant tactically tweak things, this is not a dig on him. This Utd team is as good as any team in the world the question is can the team be aplied properly?
Amaka is not on the level of Pep, Klopp, Tuchel. That is a solid fact that most reasonable people won’t debate.

However the question of squad quality is a different issue. The fact that Amaka is not good does not automatically make his squad the best.

The 2 things can be right. Pep can be a better manager than Amaka and still have a better squad than him as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:18pm On Aug 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Doc, is DM the only position? While they might edge it, aren't we better in other areas?
In my opinion by signing Varane and Sancho we have closed the gap but they are still ahead. The reason why that DM is so important is because the kind of star players we have in attacking midfield makes it crucial for us to have someone who can play CDM alone.

It is a matter of personal opinion which is why i don't want to get too involved in this debate. It depends on how highly you rate each player.
When i look at Mata, James, Lingard, Dalot, Telles that is a large number of players that are just not up to the level we need right now IMO.

In saying this i am not hoping to protect Amaka. Everybody knows he is our weakest link but that does not mean i still can't believe City's squad is stronger.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:55pm On Aug 21, 2021
chidexxy007:
The question is, why are we still clamouring for DM if we have McT that is better than one of the top 3 DMs in the league?
That question na JAMB question. Only the gods can answer it. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:15pm On Aug 21, 2021
nitrogen:
Reason I suggested Rodri vs Fred is that both are almost the same. There are other stats that can be considered (for the sake of the argument) which shows that Fred is also not a bad player.

Tbh, City’s style makes Rodri a better passer of the ball, if we dominate play every darn time, even McTom will have high number of passes and high accuracy.

We can have Varane at the back plus Fred or McTom as DM. We will be fine.
Rodri's career average which includes his time at lowly Villareal and bus parking Atletico is 64 passes per game and 91% pass accuracy.

Career average 91% pass accuracy.

He is not a good passer because he plays at City, he plays at City because he is a good passer.

And i never said we won't be fine. You like answering questions that were not asked.

Are you saying Fred is a better DM than Rodri or are you saying McTom is a better DM than Rodri?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:04pm On Aug 21, 2021
Oh boi see as Etebo dey hide from ball! cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:01pm On Aug 21, 2021
nitrogen:
Doc, what about Rodri vs Fred?
What about them?

Rodri 2.1 tackles per game
Fred 2.7 tackles per game

Rodri 81 passes per game with 91% pass accuracy
Fred 60 passes per game with 87.7% pass accuracy

And we all know that Fred struggles with receiving the ball from the defense and under pressure from a press.

Of all the points you guys can make about our squad vs City's squad Rodri is not better than McTominay (or even Fred) as a DM should not be one of them.

Rodri posted very good stats as DM at Villareal, Atletico, City which led to his meteoric rise in such a short time but somehow McTom and Fred who are always sharing duties (unsatisfactorily) are better than him?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:40pm On Aug 21, 2021
chidexxy007:
I seriously feel it's another Rodri these guys are talking about. Cos I don't get
Anything to claim that we have better players.

Siddon look mode activated.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:34pm On Aug 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Rodri is better at recycling possession but I am dead sure than he isn't better at tackling than McTominay...
Last season in the EPL:

Rodri 2.1 tackles per game
McTominay 1.6 tackles per game

Meanwhile Whoscored rated both of them as strong in tackling.


Last season in the EPL:

Rodri 81 passes a game with 91% pass accuracy
McTominay 37 passes per game with 81% pass accuracy.

Are you dead sure or dead wrong cheesy


So their recent tackling stats are similar (with Rodri edging it) and in terms of passing Rodri flogs McTominay and all his generations. Rodri is a better DM than McTominay, you need to drop this erroneous point of view that the facts don't back up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:54pm On Aug 21, 2021
CapitalCee:
Doc the argument was about depth. Whether or not Mctominay or whoever is a Quintessential DM or not the fact is he is a good option any day in whatever position he plays CM/DM. These City players are not Aliens.
You people should 1) stop mixing arguments 2) stop typing in hyperbole.

I responded to his singular statement that Rodri was not better than McTominay as a DM when practically every evidence we have of McTominay is playing as a CM and as a box to box player.

As a DM Rodri is better than McTominay. If we support our arguments with solid points it would be more difficult to poke holes in them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:47pm On Aug 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Doc, that's just one position...
That is not the point. i was tackling your claim that McTominay who plays mainly as a CM and box 2 box player and has limited ability to recycle the ball is a better DM than Rodri.
Rodri might not be the 2nd coming of Makalele but we have only one DM in our team and his name is not McTominay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:44pm On Aug 21, 2021
TheLequte:
Thing is we can’t get Haaland for 75. Haaland is shinier than Sancho and see how much we got for Sancho from the same club.
He has a release clause. Nothing Dortmund can do about it if he does not sign a new contract.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:40pm On Aug 21, 2021
nitrogen:
Not sure Rodri is a perfect DM though. Until he plays in a different system before we can make that conclusion. We all know Pep’s system makes an average player look world class.
He was okay in the defensive bus parking system of Cholo and has been okay in the diametrically opposed possession based highline of Pep.

He might not be world class but apart from Matic we don't have anybody of that level at DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:33pm On Aug 21, 2021
TheLequte:
When are we ever going to learn not to sign players just for signing sake?

Hi Alexis Sanchez
If we can get Haaland for 75m we absolutely have to get him. That would be a cheaper gamble than Maguire with potentially exponentially greater returns.
Cavani would be leaving and we can offload James as well. Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Haaland is not a bad collective.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:30pm On Aug 21, 2021
patrickmuf:
Rodri is not even better than McTom as a DM...He is better at recycling possession but at other aspects, he isn't but no, let's trash our own options to push an agenda...
McTominay is not a DM at all so you are very wrong on this one. McTominay is a CM. This is not about trashing our players to make the manager look good. I no send the manager but that does not mean one should make emotional statements.

For team that dominates possession that recycling possession that you so easily glossed over is the most important role of a DM. Rodri as a DM is better than all our players bar Matic whose spirit is willing but body is weak.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:10pm On Aug 21, 2021
TheLequte:
Yes, I know. Was talking about the post CapitalCee replied to with a lengthy post.

Do you think Shoretire will play regular first team football at OT? I feel he’ll leave the club and go elsewhere.
Shoretire is 17. This is the first season he is playing anywhere near his age grade so it is difficult to judge just how good he is. He just signed a new contract so there is still time for him to develop without getting too restless and a loan next season might be good for him.

If he is going to succeed here it will be as the successor to Bruno although he is not the only promising AM or CM that we have. It will be survival of the fittest.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:44pm On Aug 21, 2021
ChristineC:
we should try to get Haaland. if we don't succeed there, then Lewandowski who will leave Bayern next season, should be the other option.
At 34? Bad business.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:44pm On Aug 21, 2021
TheLequte:
The opinion I had in my earlier post was that City has a bigger and deeper squad depth than Utd does. Nothing about Ole.

I’m sure talented Ciry academy players will have an eye on other clubs. Im certain that our own Shoretire sef is on the lookout for opportunities elsewhere.
Yeah but i wasn't referring to you but to CapitalCee.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:34pm On Aug 21, 2021
CapitalCee:
But we were told that Ole likes youngsters and Pep hates them. Even the bench players hardly get a look in how much more the academy players
This is not about Amaka vs Pep but if we want to analyse it Pep isn't exactly youth friendly. His youth players have been embarrassing other youth teams for the last 4-5 years and it is only Foden he can point to.

P.S I really don't like when every post gets twisted into an Amaka attack or defence. It is boring.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:29pm On Aug 21, 2021
TheLequte:
And look at me here saying Sterling and Mahrez are the only bench options to take note of.
That Cole Palmer na youth team terrorist. It would be interesting to see how he does in the first team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:02pm On Aug 21, 2021
CapitalCee:
See Man city number of changes. No Foden, No KDB, No Sterling, No Stone, No Mahrez, after Xmas now they will go on a run when others are tired. SMH. I just hope i am wrong
And they have Cole Palmer and Tommy Doyle on the bench. Those 2 terrorized Academy and Reserve defenders all over England. I know Elanga is not yet fit but i hope Mejbri starts making the matchday squad regularly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:31pm On Aug 21, 2021
KingAlabi:
cheesy cheesy
Leave that agbero.
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:42am On Aug 21, 2021
DeadPresidents:
False 9 then grin
We have 3 Real 9s from the Academy currently, why go for a false one?
Can you swap your real car for a false one? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:16am On Aug 21, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

Perhaps he should be moved to a suitable position. I really like him on the ball.
The only place where lack of pace can be hidden is central midfield and we already have 2 slow left footed central midfielders occupying that position in Svidersky (who is more solid defensively) and Savage (who has a better range of passing). Not to talk of our right footed central midfielders who are legion.

He can be a good left back or left wing back someplace . I just don’t think that place would be United.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:43am On Aug 21, 2021
timay:
He's a poor man's version of Marcus Alonso.

He's still young though, hopefully, he improves those aspects of his defensive issues to an average or acceptable level. Because all those attacking abilities cannot go to waste o
Exactly right. Whenever I see him play he reminds me of an Alonso or a Daley Blind.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:55am On Aug 21, 2021
Oasis007:
Fermandez is damn balling for the U23.



Cc Afrodoc2.
The guy is a defensive liability in 1v1 situations and does not have great pace.

He is very good going forward though .

EPL is not for him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 7:44pm On Aug 20, 2021
So na all of them deny Jorginho 3 times before dawn. grin

How can a player’s success inflict such delicious Ls on his own fans.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:52pm On Aug 19, 2021
olabode89:
Yeah, I like the way the club takes care of them academy boys. Football as a career is a cutthroat industry, it takes more than talent and hardwork. I am pretty sure few people at the club expected McT to make it at United, man has racked up 134 appearances (14 goals) for the club. Mou must be proud of himself for making McT his personal project during his time at the club.
Yeah. Nobody expected McTominay to make it here. There were probably close to 10 people in his set that were more highly rated. He was lucky he had that his late growth spurt and that JM was our manager cos those 2 things had to happen for him to get his chance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:25pm On Aug 19, 2021
olabode89:
Point taken! I wasn't tackling you sir....
I know. I was just explaining my position. The guy might have been released this year if not for his nasty ACL injury that required 2 surgeries. I wasn't even sure he would be able to continue playing which is why i was happy to see him scoring for the Reserves and training with the first team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:57pm On Aug 19, 2021
olabode89:
You like the dude but I don't think he's got what it takes to play for even a mid table EPL team. He is a hardworking kid hopefully he can make the grade at Championship level.
I never said he would make it here or anywhere. I just described his qualities. They will likely keep him here for a year or two to rehab him like they did Max Taylor whi had testicular cancer. After he has recovered they will release him or sell him.

P.S I like every single United academy product. Does not mean I think they will make it here or in top flight football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:44pm On Aug 19, 2021
patrickmuf:
What’s his favorite position, checked YouTube but I can't tell. Seems he is adept playing 11/8/7...
You know at youth team level they move the players around a lot.

He is more of a 9 in my opinion but more of a target man than the prolific Greenwood type.

He and Greenwood used to switch positions a lot. He works hard but is not skilful enough to be a wide man I think. He is bigger and stronger than Mason, is a decent finisher and has really good work rate.
I think this year would be to rehab him and he will move on in 1 yr or 2 max.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:47am On Aug 19, 2021
Happy to see D'Mani Mellor back and training with the senior team.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9AU3Ys8l14
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:36am On Aug 19, 2021
BARAJ92:
This line of thought his wrong, same Mcfred that the coach bench throughout the closing of last two season and even at the beginning of last season, those two are very useful to our setup without them the team will collapse, once Ole see a capable replacement, both would be bench.
So for 2 seasons he has not seen a capable replacement in the whole of football?

If Amaka fails this season then McFred can't be an excuse. If he goes into the season with them as his main midfielders it means he is happy with them. He has had enough time to change them if he wanted to.

The question should be what would we consider as success or as failure this season NOT whether there is any excuse for failure.

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