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raumdeuter:
Not everyone who went to La masia became great. La Masia isnt performing magic, they need you to have a football brain first which most English footballers lack

Dayo let me spell it out for you. We did not say he would be great. We said " HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN HE IS NOW".

raumdeuter:
If a Ross went to La Masia he would have been expelled for not having a football brain

But he would be better than he currently is

raumdeuter:
When you are young and have more physical attributes than others e.g you can run faster or stronger you get hyped, As you grow older these advantages wane away and you are left with your football intelligence which is why English players are always found wanting

Thats why someone will pay 35M for Andy Carroll, thats why they will tell us Joe Cole is better than Schweinsteiger, Terry at his prime is better than Boatank,

2010 an English journalist was tlling us how only 2 German players will make the English team.

You have a point there. Which is what i was saying about using speed and hustle to excite the crowd in your teens. When you get older you have to be able to make the right decisions most of the time and should have been taught properly the basic duties of your position.

chic2pimp:
It's mostly the latter I believe. If a player like Ross spent his early years at La Masia, I firmly believe He would be better than He currently is.

I agree. You can't just be churning out midfielders who lack the basic understanding of what it takes to play the role

raumdeuter:
There is definitely a reason he was shipped out after one season with this great stat

Yes and the reason is your tin God Pep, presently stinking up the joint in the EPL

Nihilist:
Luis Suarez is bone headed then for running around biting people. Berbatov is bone headed for smoking.

Those are issues not related to football. Football intelligence and common sense are different to each other.



Its only halfway through the season and Wilshere has already played more this season than he did in the previous two seasons due to injury. Infact his last game for Arsenal was in November 2014.

Can you make mistakes in the sickbay?

It didn't take me hours of tape to realize Bebe was not a professional footballer, Wheelchair still making teenage mistakes almost every time he gets sick leave from hospital duty to grace the pitch.

But this is a digression. These English players are generally not tactically sound or maybe well coached enough. When was the last time England produced midfielders known for their wise and economical use of the ball like Weigl, Thiago, Veratti? Instead the produce guys depending on speed and hustle in CM like Barkley, Dele Alli et al

Nihilist:
Wilshere is a player that cannot be described as bone headed. His entire game is based on high football IQ.

Matter of opinion, i agree he is more intelligent than the rest of the bone thugs. However his tackling is bone headed, his smoking is bone headed. His decision making has not progressed as expected. There is a difference between having ability on the ball, passing etc which he has and knowing when to calm the game down and when to dribble through a crowd of sliding tackles which he has not.

I had high hopes for him but the standards change when you enter your 20s. The mistakes that were glossed over when you were a teenager become highlighted if still present when you are 23

chic2pimp:
Na Dayo o

lol i corrected it, thanks.
Many of these English players have youthful talent which excites the average fan but most lack intelligence and/or coaching. That is why Barkley will put head down and run 30 yards and shoot narrowly over the bar exciting the crowd when the right thing would have been instant 20 yard pass to free Lukaku and get a better shot at goal down the line. Same thing with Wilshere running with the ball constantly and lunching into tackles like Roy Keane when he knows has brittle bones

England does not produce enough quality midfielders, they overhype their talents and they also dont do enough to coach their young players.
Most of their talents regress after a few years on the world stage. It is not just heavy schedule, they just produce an inordinately high number of bone headed players especially midfield e.g Barkley, Rodwell, Wilshere e.t.c

raumdeuter:
Brawns is no substitute for brains

You wonder why in the last 3yrs all UEFA trophies have been won by this non rigorous La Liga. All CL, All Europa cups, all Super cups, all CWC

We saw how Michael Owen coped, or Tomas Gravesen or Jonathan Woodgate or Alex Song or Fabregas or Vermalean

Looking at the EPL top scorers table, 3 of the top 4 are from this non rigorous La liga. And the other is from the French league after flopping miserably in La Liga

16 goals in 29 league matches, an average of 0.55 goals per game FLOPPED MISERABLY? Dayo you no fear God?

Don Franco Baresi tackled, Paolo Maldini tackled, Matthias Sammer tackled but ogogoro master like Pep doesn't want his players to tackle?

elrony:
So Pulis will probably come on the offensive, that's what you mean ba?

I'd prefer them defending. ...hehe... more chance for goals to come, and less balls for Rondon

If they sit too deep it could be a problem. It is better if they come out a bit and we exploit the spaces they leave behind especially with their slow CBs

Debroslink:
I watched the guy last night. I was deeply impressed. The guy was running at defenders like Messi does, and did you see that beautiful through pass he gave for the equalizer?

God!

What really impressed me is that his decision making is improving weekly. He has all the tools. With good luck with injuries, good coaching and discipline he will be world class in 2 seasons tops

UniqueGem:
YOU guys really need to stop this unnecessary mentions. I don't like my notification stuffed especially with something I'm not interested in.

BTW, my statement day before yesterday was "It's either you and ur father in law watched it under the canopy or you are a bloody liar" I didn't outrightly call him anything.
He replied me by quoting how my father and great grand father's never got the chance to a better life and how I'm wallowing in poverty.
Look man, this stuff is over 24hrs already, I'm over it and I'll appreciate if you stop mentioning me up and down on the same issue.

Sorry sir

Uniquegem did not read Sun Tzu. "Know your enemy". Nihilist is one of the deadliest guys on this forum, forget his carefree promoter persona the guy bad pass gammalin 20.
2nd mistake was to take it personal accusing him of lying, accusing him of watching under canopy with his father-in-law, stating that he depended on his FiL for sustenance
3rd mistake was claiming you could pay for his tfare back to Naija when your posts imply that 20k to 15k decrease in fee is a big thing to you.

The less said about the double masters claim the better.

You can't start a gun battle and then start complaining when your opponent brings out rocket launchers and automatic rifles while you are using a dane gun.

I do not criticise Nihilist for using overwhelming force especially since the other party went personal first.

A40:
Lol this Hoffenheim vs Dortmund is jumpin jumpin. All out Armaggedon

Ol boy we missed out on a gem in this Dembele oh

Dembele is the truth. Can't think of any teenager in Europe at his level right now.

Smalling should be eased back into the team until he improves his fitness. Rushing him straight into the starting line up might be unwise, however someone has to warn Rojo about his 2 footed tackles and unnecessary roughness.

P.S Nihilist please let this go, I believe you have proved your point beyond any doubt.

Sometimes it is hard to differentiate between Olive branch and Koboko......I guess this is one of those times .

Ogbeche77:
Ok.. Party is over..
Any off topic post ll be hidden & provocateurs ll loose their right to post here until the new year.
Cheers

Provocateurs? What about sneak dissers, snide remarkers, 5th columnists, and unprovoked attackers?

Bimffo:
Ibime, what happened at United's thread that Ogbeche locked it and cleared everything??

NIHIList aNNIHILated a young Turk.

Immediately I saw Ogbeche77 viewing I knew what would happen next.

There seems to have been a STAN sighting ladies and gentlemen

Well let me light my spliff, sit back and watch.

Ibime:
Lagos is profitable. Too many buyers and not enough sellers. The rich will keep retreating into Lagos Island enclaves given the security situation of the country. In fact Banana Island has the greatest alcapital appreciation in the world today and is traded in dollars. However for the rest of Lagos, forex movement will erode any gains.

Come to PH where niggas that were making yanga on offers on their property 3 years ago are now trying to give it away at Massive discount. Abuja the same.

Even Lagos sef, one of my guy threw £120k into building 6 flats in 2010 and ie barely collecting £6k rental a year. Forex is not smiling. I threw a much much smaller amount into London same time, now you can't compare both investments, its like comparing Barcelona to Mamelodi Sundowns.

You do have a point about the Forex issue. But then again This might be the best time for acquisitions for those with long term plans and extra forex to burn, borrow a leaf from George Soros book lol

Ibime:
Na lie o. Nigeria is the only place in the world (not at war) where Real Estate depreciates in value. . . . except for Lagos Island locations.

Last I checked sha even on the outskirts of Lag plots of land that were going for 250k were going for close to 1mill a few years later. Before I left I had a colleague who was more into selling land and cars than practicing Medicine lol. Around that 2008 to 2012 period land was profitable o, I don't know about now though.

Ibime:
Nigerian stockmarket in 2008 was pure scam. I checked the stock price behaviour at the time when I was looking to invest. Nigerian companies' stock price will rise 1,000% in the first month after IPO, then stay at the same price for the next 1 year without moving. Which means that there were many buyers immediately after an IPO (good marketing) but no liquidity in the market and would be difficult to exit. The flotation price is calculated by the Underwriter and should be close to fair value. When you see the price rising by 1000% percent above the flotation price just one month later, that is a big bubble.

Exactly. The appreciation in price was due more to marketing strategy than product performance. That one was a scam perpetrated by a select set of big boys at the top.

raumdeuter:
Around 2007 na everything I do

Nigerian stock exchange crashed wit my money in late 2008. Before then Nospecto crashed on me, Wealth solution too, plus getaway club
I only got money $6,000 = 900k from club freedom

The best thing to invest in IMO is real estate but that one self get e own K-leg esp in Naija. I can still remember those brokers claiming "the system is healthy" and "we are expecting a bullish run" until the market crash pata pata