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MikeCZAR:
Just like how BMW will tell a Nigerian their latest vehicle with a glass top is suited to their needs, while we know how hot it is in west Africa.

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"When a torpedo is detected"

SAN currently uses the AEG SUT 264 heavy weight torpedo guidance is wire guided, with a active and passive sonar seeker.

The submarine can detect the vessel and calculate best attacking direction, the torpedo can wire-guided using the boat's combat system. The torpedo's Active and passive sonar seeker can be used in the terminal phase.

While the commander is dancing that his control v has countered the threat, his vessel's keel will be broken. Cause he deployed his counter-measures when the torpedo was far way and its seeker not turned on. THE SEEKER IS USED IN THE TERMINAL PHASE.

The newer torpedos SAN is buying will use a fiber optic cable. And yes wire guided torpedos are still being by the most powerful navies in the world like USA's MK48 and UK's Spearfish.

"Humble pie is best served hot"

saengine:
So the Nigerian military buys equipment, but is so incompetent it needs people to show them how to change tyres. Even worse it's generals are sending men to war with equipment that non of them know how to use. Training on equipment while Boko Haram is shooting at you....interesting.

See when people are desperate, they leave plenty gaps in their argument which they dont notice. So this particular man was performing maintenance on brand new military vehicles according to some here. What maintenance does a brand new vehicle need, besides a basic check? Equipment that hasnt been around for even 2 months and you need specialists to come check your oil filters for you....interesting.

Lets go a step further. In the case of the mine resistant armour vehicles bought from SA. These are not high tech, high end defence products. These vehicles perform well based on their chassis and frame design. No technician out on any field can ever change that.

The most "technologically advanced" part of this vehicle would be the weapons package and communication system. And since people here have insisted that these new vehicles are being driven straight to the front, somewhere out there there is a clueless Nigerian soldier shouting "white man white man, i need to contact my commander, show me how to use radio-o". And in the vehicle next to him "white man white man, i see Boko Haram, show me how to shoot-o".

So in conclusion, Nigeria cant perform the most basic maintenance on its vehicles because they claim they are new. Imagine a mechanic who doesnt know how to change a BMW 3 Series tyre, because he's used to changing Toyota Tazz tyres. And when these brand new vehicles are driven to the front, you need another set of people to show you how to use them in active combat.

Msauza:
The wife of Lotz ostensibly told the press that his husband was a fighter and soldier and that he had just left Iraq for Nigeria before his untimely death.

Did you hear that dummy. The man was a mercenary. Donner.

Msauza:
Look to what this dummy is saying. SA has enough doctors for its 50 million population. The only problem is that they are in conflict with the remuneration that the public hospital doctors get. They want to be paid more with better benefits, like cellphone allowances, car allowance, housing, entertainment, etc. Hence after they graduate they only do their community service at public hospital and thereafter emback into private service either establishing their own or working for top class SA private health facilities which pay competitive salaries. It is here you will never see incompetent Nigerian doctors and others.


However, incompetent Nigerian doctors who cannot do some certain medical procedures, like major surgeries, Organ transplants, like heart, liver and kidneys are employed at public hospitals earning peanuts. All that they could do according to SA medical law are circumcisions, lacerations, stitching wounds, Checking high blood pressure, blood tests etc.

Msauza:
Nah: Boko killed more than 8000 civilians.

Patchesagain:
Fact remains: South Africans are turning a profit in Nigeria.

Patchesagain:
1. Which ships operate contralto V?
2. The purchase of new un-jammable wire-guided heavyweight torpedoes confirmed by the Minister of Finance

Also:

1. How does detection mean automatic death of the submarine?
2. How effective are ships at detecting torpedoes?
3. How will a ship detect a tiny torpedoe if it cannot detect the massive sub that fired it?
4. What countermeasures are currently in service with NATO and the NN?

Unless you can answer these questions the defeault status is this: One single South African submarine sunk an entire NATO task force

Patchesagain:
Reminder: Nigerian Army allowed Boko Haram to build a Caliphate the size of Belgium, kill 4000 Nigerian civilians and make 1,5 million people homeless.

patches689:
Nigerian doctors move to south africa for a better life

Whats the problem?

patches689:
Thats why teh SAN has/is aquired the new heavy weight torpedoes which are jam-proof

The submarine can fire and evade

Detecting it once does not lead to permanent detection

DictatorZAR:
Cry or laughter my beloved countryman provided a service to a disorganized incompetent Nigerian army who couldn't protect and service there own equipment.

So much for the we are the best in africa shiiiiit talk. Giants in a small overpopulated country who cannot service there own fleet of dusty military equipment.

MikeCZAR:
what is the role of the Nigerian armed forces? Isn't to protect the people and Sovereignty of Nigeria?

Your military was beaten out of towns.

MikeCZAR:
How?

Cause it is guided by wire from the submarine receiving updates.

You think flares and chaff are magic? Well modern missiles can differentiate.

How is it position known? Your problem is that you think your fantasies are a reality.

You think to attack subs have use their periscopes, NO they dive deeper and only attack when the odds are in their favour.

Hunting a submarine is no child's play.

saengine:
aha...

"There is a significant, albeit controversial, South African presence in north-eastern Nigeria. The Nigerian army is working with private security companies who employ South Africans, OSTENSIBLY to train their troops in counter-terrorist activities."

But yeah....lets all skip that part

saengine:
Just like you have not provided the link to the pics we are waiting for, you will also ignore the juice of the article.
ARMED SOUTH AFRICANS ARE IN NIGERIA, TRAINING YOUR MILITARY IN COUNTER TERRORISM.

Does Nigeria not have it's own "mere truck mechanics"? Why was he, and the company he worked for needed to
"merely fix trucks" when you can do it on your own? Did your tank commander mistake his spanner for an RPG?

Or was he, as mercenaries are, in a hot conflict zone. With other members from his company, and other mercenaries.

stillchris:
and i see how you unintelligently avoided boldening this part.

Lotz is reportedly from KwaZulu-Natal, and was involved in the support and maintenance of vehicles used by the Nigerian army in their ongoing offensive against Boko Haram.

do you think Nigerians lack comprehension like you southies.

saengine:
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-03-11-fighting-boko-haram-south-african-mercenary-killed-in-friendly-fire/#.VQCJUtWUft8

Digest this article as you so wish

Fighting Boko Haram: South African mercenary killed in friendly fire

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/images/resized_images/706x410q70sa-mercenary-dies-in-nigeria.jpg

The first South African has been killed in north-eastern Nigeria, where he was participating in the fight against Boko Haram. Leon Lotz, an apartheid-era Koevoet operative, was reportedly killed in a friendly fire incident when a Nigerian tank destroyed the wrong target. By SIMON ALLISON



According to sources in Nigeria, the first South African involved in the fight against Boko Haram has been killed. Leon Lotz, a former South African Defence Force Koevoet operator turned private security contractor, died in a friendly-fire incident on March 9 when a Nigerian tank opened fire on his convoy. The incident occurred in Nigeria’s Borno State, in the north-east of the country, near Boko Haram territory.


Lotz is reportedly from KwaZulu-Natal, and was involved in the support and maintenance of vehicles used by the Nigerian army in their ongoing offensive against Boko Haram.

There is a significant, albeit controversial, South African presence in north-eastern Nigeria. The Nigerian army is working with private security companies who employ South Africans, ostensibly to train their troops in counter-terrorist activities. In January, News24 reported that former SADF soldiers formed the core of a multinational team of private military experts that were en route to Nigeria.

Communication between these private security contractors and the Nigerian army is thought to be very poor, which perhaps explains the confusion leading to Lotz’s death.

In another, as-yet unverified report of a friendly fire incident in the Mafa Local Government Area of Borno State, Nigerian forces mistakenly opened fire on a convoy transporting foreign security contractors. Two foreigners, one black and once Caucasian, were killed in the incident. It seems likely that this incident and the Lotz incident are the same.

According to a Daily Maverick source, Lotz was working for a private security company called Pilgrim Africa Ltd. According to the company overview on Bloomberg, “Pilgrims Africa Limited provides security services in Nigeria. It provides armed escort teams to protect people from militant and criminal action. The company was founded in 2008 and is headquartered in Lagos, Nigeria.”


Pilgrim Africa is owned by Cobus Claassens, a former member of infamous mercenary outfit Executive Outcomes. In December, on the subject of dealing with war crimes internationally, Claassens tweeted: “The UN needs Executive Outcomes to be resurrected. We knew how to deal with such rebels!!”

Msauza:
Natie van Coller
Leon Lotz an ex-koevoet died in in Nigeria after a
contact with Boko Harim on monday night. I've
known Lotz and he was one of the true characters
of the SWA conflict. R.I.P my Brother in Arms.
You'll be missed but your legend will always
linger.


https://m.facebook.com/boerekrisisaksie/photos/pb.116298045063416.-2207520000.1426095134./1108789915814219/?type=1

Msauza:
You are such a mudafaka. SA former soldiers are experts in every field. Mechanics, Battle, Aviation, etc. They are trained to do everything in one.

DictatorZAR:
Just saw a news report on al jazeera that a Former SANDF member died in a boko attack. So I guess the denial of you naija boys about the existence of SA mercs is finally over

Msauza:
You can never clear the caliphate ideology in the minds of millions of Nigerian Muslims.

Msauza:
SA ex soldier reportedly killed in Nigeria.


http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-03-11-fighting-boko-haram-south-african-mercenary-killed-in-friendly-fire/

MikeCZAR:
A submarine commander like during the falklands war when the Belgrano was sunk, will fire 2 or 3 torpedos.

They're guided! Not fire and forget.

MikeCZAR:
This 35 towns were captured from the supposed "strong Nigerian military"?

Patchesagain:
Augustus.

1. Show us how effective torpedo detection is
2. Show us how effective torpedo counter measures are, and what they are
3. Show us how torpedo launch results in submarine detection
4. Show us that no helicopter was used

Yet again, you say things and have no proof, no substance.

Until you prove 1-4 above the facts remain unchanged and unchallenged:

Fact: One single SAN submarine sunk a whole NATO taskforce and that you yourself admitted than the NN doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell

But lets assume you are correct, that a SAN sub firing a torp results in its detection and destruction.

Now lets assume a NATO task force is off the coast of RSA and is preparing an attack

They have:

1X Aircraft carrier
2X LHD
10000000 destroyers/frigates/etc

Our 3 subs infiltrate (we have proven beyond doubt that we can get in attack position without being detected) they then fire off their torpedoes - one sub attacks the carrier the other two the LHD's

Those vessels are sunk, our subs are sunk

NATO now has a useless taskforce sitting off our coast, and we buy time to negotiate or to further prepare to defend ourselves.

That is what is important augugbugu.

Now, how do you wish to pay for your tuition in military deterrents?

patches689:
Its easy to take a town when no one is defending it

patches689:
Who said that they didnt use helos?

Who said torpedo detection is 100%?

Who said these things werent considered in the design of the exercise?

naval exercises are designed to be realistic - or they arent worth the time or money involved in doing them

We sank a nato task force, our equipment has been tested, our crews have been tested, our doctrine has been tested

And we scored 100%

Msauza:
People need to check this:

http://www.kingebuka.com/2015/03/photos-of-south-african-troops-in.html?m=1

stillchris:
foolish bastarrd Nigerian. you still went ahead to post the pic. i really pity your retarrded state.

those cars' registration is not Nigerian. and linda ikeji is never a credible source in Nigerian media. fool

patches689:
Or perhapse Boko has used superior speed and monility to out fox your "napoleon" and is simply waiting for you to over strech your manpower and supply lines before countering