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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:17pm On Mar 18, 2015
Thiza:
REALLY PHOTOS FOUGHT BY SADF AGAINST CUBANS IN ANGOLA
Old story from grandfather. 1980s expired war. Dead, retired, or gray haired old men SADF disbanded apartheid army.

Show us war fought by today's new SANDF of HIV infected Southie soldiers, show us the enemy main battle tanks your internet army has destroyed in the last 20 years tonguetonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Mar 18, 2015
stillchris:
These south african rats are so stup1d it makes me wonder sometimes.

they insult us for hiring trainers to help with equipments we are not familiar with, while SANDF had to bring in cuban mercs to help them fix trucks they've had for years

their fat minister was right. there is shortage of skilled personel in SANDF.
That their fat woman minister threatening ex-soldiers, she had better watch her mouth or go ask Lucky Dube, make she know how far. Free AK-47 plenty for inside South Africa with no registered gun owner.....89 souls per day no be joke o!
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:46pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
We can and do look after trucks.

The Cubans provide a cheaper and more effective solution than private companies who did it in the past
Citation needed.

Show proof of cheaper wages/salaries.

Cuban mercenaries have been hired by SANDF !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:23pm On Mar 18, 2015
saengine:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/key-denel-dynamics-products-entering-production-for-clients-here-and-abroad-2015-03-13

Three key Denel Dynamics products poised to enter production phase

https://us-cdn.creamermedia.co.za/assets/articles/images/resized/0000402496_resized_seeker40008141022duane.jpg

No fewer than three of the development projects being carried out by local missile, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and satellite company Denel Dynamics (part of the State-owned Denel group) are coming to an end and being transformed into industrialisation and production programmes for local and foreign customers. They are the A-Darter missile, the Seeker 400 UAV and the Umbani precision guided bomb kit. “We are really proud of our achievements in these programmes,” highlights company CEO Tsepo Monaheng. “Now we are in a position to release critical engineers and other resources to work on new development programmes.”


[b]The A-Darter is an infrared homing air-to-air missile, conceived by Denel Dynamics but jointly developed with Brazil. Development of the missile has now reached completion, and it is expected that the first contract for industrialisation and production of the weapon will be signed later this month or next month. There will be two such contracts, one for each of the two partner countries. The second such contract will be signed later this year. There will be production lines in both countries. “We will start to establish the production line here in April,” he states. “We’ll also be assisting our Brazilian partners to establish a production line there.” Recently, at his farewell function, the outgoing Brazilian Air Force attaché to South Africa highly praised the A-Darter’s performance and Denel Dynamics’s cooperation with his country.


Already, another country is seriously interested in acquiring the A-Darter. If a contract is signed, the missiles would be assembled on the South African production line. “The potential for more customers is now considerable, because we now have a product, not just a programme,” points out Denel Dynamics deputy CEO Denise Wilson. “We’ll be ramping up to produce five A-Darters a month, on the South African production line. We’ll source most components from local industry and so create local jobs.”[/b]

The third and final development guided test series was recently completed. This proved the performance of the missile. “It has exceeded expectations!” she reports. “Now we’re finishing the qualification of the missile. The final qualification flight tests are planned for later this year. “The missile will fly whatever mission is specified by the client. We now have the latest state-of-the-art processors on the missile.”

The Seeker 400 is actually more advanced than the A-Darter, because it is already in production for its launch customer, an overseas client. “The Seeker 400 has just been through a range of performance evaluation tests, including range and altitude and it performed very well against specifications,” notes Wilson.


“We have one customer for the Seeker 400 now, but we’re talking to four other potential customers,” points out Monaheng. “One of these witnessed the recent successful demonstration of the Seeker 400.” In addition to the Seeker 400, a large tactical UAV (with the potential to be armed), the company also offers the Seeker 200 tactical UAV and the Hungwe small UAV. Once, the South African Air Force was a leader in UAV operations, but it has not operated any UAVs for many years now. “We’re hoping that UAVs are going to be re-introduced into the air force later this year,” he says.

As these projects become production programmes, new development projects are taking their place. A major new project is the Marlin. This will be a beyond-visual-range radar homing missile, with more than one role. “The Marlin is in the technology demonstration phase. It is being funded by the Department of Defence. “We have the funding for the technology demonstration,” says Wilson. “It is intended for air-to-air, ground-to-air and naval surface-to-air roles. Its rocket motor has already been tested. “Certain preliminary tests of the airframe will take place during this year.” Although intended to fulfill the requirements of the South African National Defence Force, it has already attracted overseas interest.

“It’s a really interesting technology programme,” she cites. “It’s giving the opportunity for young engineers to grow with the programme. “It’s delivering a new generation of engineers. “Ideally, you want people to be with this programme for the next 15 to 20 years,” adds Monaheng.




This article is dedicated to HENRY120 smiley smiley. Remember what I told you just a few days ago, I wonder what your excuse will be when these products start going onto the production line to feed the SANDF.
[size=13pt]All is just another Super Story TV drama by Wale Adenuga Productions.....until SANDF buys those weapons and inducts them into service in your military arsenal, you have NOTHING.

Mokopa missile is an example, produced but rejected by SANDF, refused to buy, not purchased, not in service....you have NOTHING but photos and a long script for super story part II....showing next week on Channel 51 UHF cheesycheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
What is propaganda?

why is it in a generals best interests to say that his men have not failed?

Hmmm.... Foreign media confirm: mercenaries at play.
Foreign media DO NOT own Nigerian army, the Nigerian army chief is the overall boss, he says NO mercenary ONLY mechanic white-heads from places including South Africa.

Let your foreign new media show us mercenaries in Nigeria fighting in battle zone.

Envy is a disease cheesycheesycheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:59pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
No, its cheaper than relying on the private sector - it says so in the article

Read before you post
Nope, you read before you post.

Show us how the salaries of imported expatriate mechanics from Cuba is cheaper to pay than local South African mechanics, show us proof.

You guys were the ones saying Nigerian army lacks skilled mechanics for us to hire South African technicians for maintenance jobs, now we see that South African army too is hiring mechanics from tiny Cuba to come work for your army on your own vehicle. LOL cheesycheesy

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:57pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
No, its cheaper than relying on the private sector - it says so in the article

Read before you post
Nope, you read before you post.

Show us how the salaries of imported expatriate mechanics from Cuba is cheaper to pay than local South African mechanics, show us proof.

You guys were the ones saying Nigerian army lacks skilled mechanics for us to hire South African technicians for maintenance jobs, now we see that South African army too is hiring mechanics from tiny Cuba to come work for your army on your own vehicle. LOL cheesycheesy
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:38pm On Mar 18, 2015
Msauza:
The whole 50 000 Army personnel have fired R4 either in battle or in the battle school, the only battle school in Africa.
You are the one personally pulling the triggers for all of them abi?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:36pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
Augubugug: Forever alone

Imaginary girlfriends to go with an imaginary job
Mind ya own business. I could screw Miss South Africa 2014 if I wanted to. Just sharraap ya mouthie.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:11pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
No, the war in veitnam ended for american soldiers in 1973 and peaked at half a million men (telling lies again?)

The gulf war was 16 years later

The average american infantrman had no war experience

With regards to the other things, their superiority over iraq is the same as ours over you. I also like how you accept that superior equipment and technology is more important than experience

I like to see that you are now admitting experience can be "carries over"
Nope, you are the standard liar incurable and irredeemable....you need church deliverance with 10 pastors combined.

Vientam war ended as I said in mid 1970s.....that's 1975 http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1969.html

Gulf war was 15 years after Vietnam.

The average age of American combat soldier in Vietnam was 19 years. 19 + 15 = age 34 year old troops in Gulf war.

Vietnam was as I said is a million man war....on both sides combines....USA, South Vietnam allies, North Vietnam enemies, Vietcong etc.

Show me how South Africa has the same military level of America+Britain+France+Canada+Italy+Saudi Arabia+Egypt combined superiority over Nigeria, you mean South Africa's military is equal to the combination of all those world powers ?

Anyway, you are a serial liar beyond redemption !

PHOTO : AMERICAN STEALTH JET FIGHTER USED IN GULF WAR ON IRAQ

https://www.combatindex.com/hardware/images/air/datapageimages/f-117_wide.jpg

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:07am On Mar 18, 2015
ukemeramat:
take your frustration to the govt...if you really believed in those riffles, why did our same govt smuggled millions of dollars illegally to south africa to procure their arms....
Did Nigeria buy rifle from South Africa? We bought SAMIL transport trucks and MRAP including medical ambulances.

You have no wide knowledge of military stuff beyond your AK-47 rifle and some ancient low tech Niger delta militancy war.

The AK-47 rifle remains the most reliable assault rifle in the world today. Even Algeria the oil rich nation with the biggest defence budget in Africa is still using AK-47 rifle locally manufactured and also using the Chinese version of AK-47.

Nigeria is now fighting war with guided missile armed drones and we are the first in Africa and the only nation in Africa to do that, yet you still still say Nigeria is poorly armed. No country in Africa can match Nigeria's ISTAR capability NOT even Egypt or South Africa, they are 66 years behind us in combat ISTAR equipment technology.

Mister delta fisherman, go mend your canoe and go back fishing after you watch the BBC video in the weblink below :

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
Because you are clearly wasting my time.

we have training facilities you could only dream of
Okay that's where you groom your online army of internet based virtual photo-club soldiers
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:18am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
Gulf War 1 - inexperienced american army steam-rolls the iraqi army who had 10 years of conventional combat experience (which ended just before the oraq war)
I told you repeatedly you dumbo, US Army had a million soldier big war in Vietnam till the mid 1970s, British army had a big war with Argentina in the early 1980s, that was the experience they carried into Gulf war against Iraq in 1990. The allies also had far more advanced weapons than Iraq, like AWACS, cruise missiles, depleted uranium shells, ECM, ECCM, Composite armour tanks, etc, just far too much for Iraq to handle alone, and the almost the whole world was in that same battle, Iraq was fighting against almost the whole world not just America. It was two super powers of the world and dozens of other powerful nations all combined against a 3rd world country. South Africa is not a world super power, and the whole world's armies and air forces are not under your command to fight for you.

Use your half burnt brain well when you compare things
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:54am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
Training > war experience
Maxim of fools.

Citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:53am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:
And the gun the obj-006 is a copy of was designed in 1948
No standard army uses the 1950s AK-47 again, it's been improved with so many versions. China has it's own variant, Nigeria has OBJ-006.

Even SANDF R-4 is listed as an AK-47 variant, because that is what the mechanics are, forget about the paint job and stock etc that has nothing to do with rifle operations in combat.

There are so many AK-47 variants across the world each country having it's own mechanical improvements, you are half-illiterate :

Production outside of the Soviet Union/Russian Federation
Military variants only. Includes new designs substantially derived from the Kalashnikov.
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(February 2013)
Country Variant(s)

Albania Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-1) Albanian Automatic Assault Rifle Model 56 Type-1 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of Type 56, which in turn is a clone of the Soviet AKM rifle)
Automatiku Shqiptar Tipi 1982 (ASH-82) Albanian Automatic Assault Rifle Type 1982 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of AKMS)

Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-2) Albanian Light Machine Gun [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of RPK)

Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-3) Albanian Automatic Hybrid Rifle Model 56 Type-3 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Hybrid rifle for multi-purpose roles mainly Marksman rifle with secondary assault rifle and grenade launcher capability)

Other unknown variants.

Several other unnamed & unidentified versions of the AKMS have been produce mainly with short barrels similar to the Soviet AKS-74U mainly for special forces, Tank & Armoured crew also for Helicopter pilots and police.
There have also been modifications and fresh production of heavily modified ASh-82 (AKMS) with SOPMOD accessories, mainly for Albania's special forces RENEA & exports.

Armenia K-3 (bullpup, 5.45×39mm)
Azerbaijan Khazri (AK-74M)[77]
Bangladesh Chinese Type 56
Bulgaria AKK/AKKS (Type 3 AK-47/w. side-folding buttstock)
AKKMS (AKMS), AKKN-47 (fittings for NPSU night sights)

AK-47M1 (Type 3 with black polymer furniture)

AK-47MA1/AR-M1 (same as -M1, but in 5.56 mm NATO)

AKS-47M1 (AKMS in 5.56×45mm NATO)

AKS-47S (AK-47M1, short version, with East German folding stock, laser aiming device)

AKS-47UF (short version of -M1, Russian folding stock), AR-SF (same as −47UF, but 5.56 mm NATO)

AKS-93SM6 (similar to −47M1, cannot use grenade launcher)

RKKS (RPK), AKT-47 (.22 rimfire training rifle)

Cambodia Chinese Type 56, Soviet AK-47, and AKM
People's Republic of China Type 56
Colombia Galil ACE
Croatia APS-95
Cuba AKM[78]
East Germany[79] MPi-K/MPi-KS (AK-47/AKS)
MPi-KM (AKM; wooden and plastic stock), MPi-KMS-72 (side-folding stock), MPi-KMS-K (carbine)

MPi-AK-74N (AK-74), MPi-AKS-74N (side-folding stock), MPi-AKS-74NK (carbine)

KK-MPi Mod.69 (.22 LR select-fire trainer)

Egypt AK-47, Misr assault rifle (AKMS), Maadi ARM (AKM)
Ethiopia AK-47, AK-103 (manufactured locally at the State-run Gafat Armament Engineering Complex as the Et-97/1)[80]
Finland Rk 62, Valmet M76 (other names Rk 62 76, M62/76), Valmet M78 (light machine gun), Rk 95 Tp
Hungary[81] AK-55 (domestic manufacture of the 2nd Model AK-47)
AKM-63 (also known as AMD-63 in the US; modernized AK-55), AMD-65M (modernized AKM-63, shorter barrel and side-folding stock), AMP-69 (rifle grenade launcher)

AK-63F/D (other name AMM/AMMSz), AK-63MF (modernized)

NGM-81 (5.56×45mm NATO; fixed and under-folding stock)

India INSAS (fixed and side-folding stock), KALANTAK (carbine), INSAS light machine gun (fixed and side-folding stock), a local unlicensed version with carbon fibre furniture designated as AK-7 [82]
Trichy Assault Rifle 7.62 mm, manufactured by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli of Ordnance Factories Board[83]

Iran KLS/KLF (AK-47/AKS), KLT (AKMS)
Iraq Tabuk Sniper Rifle, Tabuk Assault Rifle (with fixed or underfolding stock, outright clones of Yugoslavian M70 rifles series), Tabuk Short Assault Rifle (carbine)
Israel IMI Galil: AR (assault/battle rifle), ARM (assault rifle/light machine gun), SAR (carbine), MAR (compact carbine), Sniper (sniper rifle), SR-99 (sniper rifle)
Galil ACE

Italy Bernardelli VB-STD/VB-SR (Galil AR/SAR)[84]
Nigeria Produced by the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria as OBJ-006[85][86]
North Korea Type 58A/B (Type 3 AK-47/w. stamped steel folding stock), Type 68A/B (AKM/AKMS), Type 88 (AKS-74)[87][88]
Pakistan Reverse engineered by hand and machine in Pakistan's highland areas (see Khyber Pass Copy) near the border of Afghanistan; more recently the Pakistan Ordnance Factories started the manufacture of an AK-47/AKM clone called PK-10[89]
Poland[90] pmK (kbk AK) / pmKS (kbk AKS) (name has changed from pmK – "pistolet maszynowy Kałasznikowa", Kalashnikov SMG to the kbk AK – "karabinek AK", Kalashnikov Carbine in mid-1960s) (AK-47/AKS)
kbkg wz. 1960 (rifle grenade launcher), kbkg wz. 1960/72 (modernized)

kbk AKM / kbk AKMS (AKM/AKMS)

kbk wz. 1988 Tantal (5.45×39mm), skbk wz. 1989 Onyks (compact carbine)

kbs wz. 1996 Beryl (5.56×45mm), kbk wz. 1996 Mini-Beryl (compact carbine)

Romania PM md. 63/65 (AKM/AKMS), PM md. 80, PM md. 90, collectively exported under the umbrella name AIM or AIMS
PA md. 86 (AK-74), exported as the AIMS-74

PM md. 90 short barrel, PA md. 86 short barrel, exported as the AIMR

PSL (designated marksman rifle; other names PSL-54C, Romak III, FPK and SSG-97)

South Africa R4 assault rifle, Truvelo Raptor, Vektor CR-21 (bullpup)
Sudan MAZ[91] (based on the Type 56)
Ukraine Vepr (bullpup, 5.45×39mm), Malyuk (bullpup)[92]
United States Century Arms Model 39 (7.62x39mm), InterOrdnance AKM247, M214
Vietnam AKM-1 (AKM), TUL-1 (RPK), Galil Ace 31/32
Venezuela License granted, factory under construction[93]
Yugoslavia/Serbia M-64, M-70, M-72, M-76, M-77, M-80, M-82, M-85, M-90, M-91, M-92, M-99, M-21
Certainly more have been produced elsewhere; but the above list represents known producers and is limited to only military variants. An updated AK-47 design – the AK-103 – is still produced in Russia.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:46am On Mar 18, 2015
Msauza:
There you go again with your antics of telling lies. Wearing camo will expose you as a mercenary or do you mean do you mean those camos that you can just buy from civilian clothing stores? "grin"
Write whatever makes you sleep well at night, feel freeee !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:43pm On Mar 17, 2015
rka1:
Looks like SA could have done with the mechanics contracted by Nigeria grin

Cuban technicians bringing SA Army trucks back to life

Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 16 March 2015


Cuban mechanics assisting SA Army mechanics.Almost a hundred Cuban technicians are working with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to maintain and preserve Army, Air Force and SA Military Health Service equipment, with the Cuban technicians already working on refurbishing 130 Army trucks.

Ninety-three Cuban technicians arrived in South Africa last month, including nine with the SA Army’s 102 Field Workshop in Potchefstroom. At the moment Samil trucks from Wallmansthal are being refurbished but other vehicles may be repaired at a later stage.

130 vehicles have been earmarked for refurbishment but the SANDF is looking at overhauling 250 trucks. Three vehicles have been completely refurbished so far with others in the works. The first vehicle, a Samil 20, had 250 hours of work done on it involving the engine, differentials, electrical system, pneumatic system, bodywork etc.

Technical maintenance repairs are being done in Potchefstroom while a Cuban detachment in Bloemfontein is looking at storage and preservation of vehicles. There is another team in Pretoria examining preservation procedures.

The Cubans were invited to South Africa on a year-long contract to both refurbish vehicles and assist the SANDF build capacity and train mechanics. “The SANDF has had numerous problems with our vehicles,” SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said, adding that it has been trying to fix the vehicles through external service providers. “Our vehicles get fixed but two to three weeks down the line they are stuck on the road.”

“The Cubans are here to assist us fix the vehicles and create capacity within the defence force so we can do the fixing and maintenance repairs ourselves,” Dlamini told a media delegation in Potchefstroom on Friday. “Until we create capacity ourselves we will be forced to continue to rely on external service providers.”

The Cubans are not just refurbishing vehicles - they have five goals: to organise fleet management, organise technical support, deactivate old vehicles, preserve vehicles and perform maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) activities.

Brigadier General Elvis Mathaba, Director of Army Logistics, said that the Cubans in particular were invited to assist the SANDF for several reasons: they are cost effective; private industry is reluctant to pass on skills to the SANDF; Cuba helped South Africa during the Struggle years and still has good relations with South Africa; and Cuba has been able to keep its own military vehicles running in spite of half a century of sanctions.

Mathaba said the poor state of the SANDF’s vehicles was due to a lack of maintenance, repair and overhaul. A skills shortage has compounded the problem and this Cubans will help address this.

Poor vehicle serviceability has financially impacted on the SANDF as the United Nations does not reimburse the military for unserviceable vehicles used on international peacekeeping deployments. The SANDF has equipment deployed in Darfur and the Democratic Republic of Congo with UN missions there.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380
Those Maiduguri REVA MRAP guys look very much like Cubans with that tan skin colour....tan skin colour like ma ex-gurl, she's mixed blood, sent her away cuz she can't even fry eggs in cooking oil...back 2 her mama....liability gurl frendz !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:46pm On Mar 17, 2015
Msauza:
No Cuban technicians will wear military camouflage like they do in Nigeria.
I am a PMC non-combatant and I wear military camouflage in high risk zone, but not standard army green camo, I wear grey shade uniform like some other PMCs do, and those PMC guys in Maiduguri were wearing light grey camo.

Don't brag about what is beyond your knowledge dude
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
rka1:
You know more than the CoAS abi?

The over 200 girls were kidnapped from their hostels at the Government Secondary School, Chibok, Borno State on April 14 2014.
Mr. Minimah also denied that Nigeria hired mercenaries to fight Boko Haram.
He said there are only military advisers and instructors meant to maintain the newly-acquired security equipment.
“Whenever you have new equipment, the equipment come with contract and the contract
include maintenance and the technicians that come with them are those that we hire,” he said.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178639-nigerian-military-found-no-sign-of-chibok-girls-in-recaptured-territories-army-chief.html
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Finally, the highest relevant authority has spoken, the Chief Of Army staff of Nigeria Lt. General Minimah says " No foreign mercenaries fighting war for Nigeria against Boko Haram".

END OF STORY.

CASE CLOSED FINALLY FOREVER.

Shame on you South Africans...we use your white-heads for mere casual labour jobs tonguetonguetongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:29pm On Mar 17, 2015
saengine:
Moral of the story. Next time don't try be a clever f*ck here. If people post pics that YOU dont know their source, you ask. Dont try say those pics dont belong to this place or this place....when others know.

In all this rubbish post of yours you think i didnt notice you ignored my question? Which country do those white men come from, since they are operating South African equipment?

Day 10....which website did you find those missile launch screengrabs from? You think i forgot?

I will demolish you each and every time.
You demolish nothing cheesycheesy

I don't owe you answer of where I got missile screenshots from, am I your servant to obey your command? I got images, I posted, anyone who is angry can go jump into river Zambezi.

The mercenaries in the Maiduguri photos drive a South African MRAP same way Americans, Yemenis, Nigerians, etc all drive South African MRAPs.

Until you prove those white men's true nationalities, they are NOT South Africans.....and who cares anyway, NO MERCENARY is doing combat in Nigeria's war.

However, I admit that Nigeria uses the whiteheads of South Africa for casual labour duties, live with that even if it hurts whatever remains of your shattered national pride
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:45pm On Mar 17, 2015
jln115:
"You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters tonguetongue"

Believing your own lies wont make them true.

The SANDF has more than a thousand troops in the DRC alone and have seen combat quite a few time, the SUDAN contingent has had its fair share of action too.
How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience tonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:38pm On Mar 17, 2015
DieVluit:
Bwahahaha - so in short (now that you've been exposed), you're crying because youve been screaming long and hard and contradicting yourself.

Now you confirm that you can't be taken seriously because you scream long and hard based on incomplete stories and photos.

What a sad little person.
You need to first close down the offices of BBC, VOA, AFP, REUTERS, News24, CNN, Al Jazeera, New York Times newspapers and all other war media that have ever published an incomplete or inaccurate war situation report that was later found inaccurate, then I can also be blamed.

Until you achieve that, I owe nobody any apology. Get that straight into your thick skullz
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:18pm On Mar 17, 2015
jln115:
"SANDF infantry man has NEVER used his R4 rifle in any combat since he was recruited"
Uhm.... have you forgotten CAR,DRC,SUDAN ect ect
How many SANDF men fired R4 rifle in C.A.R Bangui? You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters tonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:11pm On Mar 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
With only 1000 ordered and paid for, in an army of 150 000 it is then not standard

Standard max range: 350 meters
Standard max range of OBJ006 rifle is classified so you DON'T know it
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:01pm On Mar 17, 2015
Patchesagain:
the average Nigerian soldier uses a weapon that went into service in 1948

That is all.
Nope, OBJ-006 rifle came into service about year 2006 and that's what the average Nigerian soldier uses
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:54pm On Mar 17, 2015
saengine:
Like i have always said, i find it funny how people start panicking when they are trapped in a corner grin.

Listen very carefully. Understand this....

1. When i posted the pics of the white men at the gun turret of Reva III, why did you feel the need to tell us in BIG BOLD letters that Equitorial Guinea bought Reva III? Why? There are plenty other countries who bought it. Who asked you to do that for us?

I'll tell you why. Because it was clear to you and everyone here that those white men at the gun turrets were private combatants. But you were so desperate to hide the fact private combatants are fighting with Nigerian army, that you chose an African country as close as possible to Nigeria that has Reva III. In the sad attempt to remove any link between those Reva III and Nigeria.


2. You later found out that Nigeria does infact have Reva III. This is where you seriously panicked. Let me show you the mistakes you made.....

You now claim that those men, in Nigerian Reva III's, are indeed private military contractors. But you deny they are South African. Here is your critical mistake......you forgot that your very own president said all private contractors are simply providing training on NEW EQUIPMENT on the front line because there wasn't enough time. You have agreed with your president on this point.


So those men in the picture must come from the same country in which Reva III is produced, which is South Africa.

And i know your next step, you will say those men can come from any other country which also operates Reva III. So tell us, which country are they from?

-UAE
-Somalia
-Yemen
-Equatorial Guinea
-South Sudan
-Nigeria

Or South Africa?
Long story with no sense in it.

The Equatorial Guinea Vs Maiduguri location/street REVA MRAP story came backstage from an online source and was circulated in Nigeria.

You cannot blame anybody for anything, war reports are hard to confirm unless you are a top military commander directly reporting from the field. I owe nobody any fvcking apology, Nigerian army never gave public information on it's versions of REVA MRAPs, we are the ones working so hard to fish out Nigerian weapons and identify their specifications from half complete photos, how is that easy? Can you do better?

Yourself can you tell us the difference between REVA Mk III and MK V ? Tell us now !

War reports gets cleared better after days have passed. BBC said 2,000 people died in Baga, a whole BBC relied on a Facebook source because Nigerian military did not comment in the matter for many days before pegging Baga casualty at 150 dead.

Have you written letter to BBC about their 2,000 casualty story and ask BBC editor in chief to keel down and bow to one gay Southie named Saengine?

You must be hurting badly by now, because the only confirmed South African ex-soldier in Nigeria is a casual labor mechanic who found a better life in Nigeria after South Africa wasted his time and career, we save your unemployed people from financial mess
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:34pm On Mar 17, 2015
patches689:
We also recapture towns for you and help you win a war your igno ape soldiers cannot

Jeez i guess they must be worth the $120 000 - 250 000 you are paying them
Citation needed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
patches689:
Augustus

We have been over this many times

A 17 year old in 1989 is how old now?

4000 men rotated every year = howany veterans?

Mercenaries are operating in many roles - mechanics, trainers and combatants

You rely on them because in all of nigeria, in all 170 million of you, you cannot find the men to match a paltry hundred aouth africans
We employed your mechanics to repair your manufactured products for the urgent need until Nigerian army mechanics get the skills for SAMIL truck engines, etc.

17 year old SADF men? Show us proof SADF had 17 year old special forces in Angola. One of the best elite troops ever in the defunct SADF, Colonel Eben himself is now about 65 years old today !

SADF has NEVER had more than a few hundred special forces deployed in bush war Angola. The 4,000 men in frontline are mostly basic regular troops plus non-combatant soldiers like drivers, mechanics, cooks, nedicals, etc.

The total number of men that ever became special forces in SADF are less than 1,000 during the bush war.

Troop rotation means soldiers A and B fight 6 months, go home on vacation, soldiers C and D replace them for 6 months, then C and D too go for vacation so A and B come back to replace them.

That is how you recycle the same 1,000 troops for 10 years. Troop rotation means rotation....recycle.....repeat.....not that you create a new batch of 1,000 fresh soldiers every 6 months when you rotate.

Dullard Domingo, your dull brain itself needs rotation !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:04pm On Mar 17, 2015
patches689:
Nigerian infantry max range is 350 meters

What are you talking about?
Beryl rifle
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:02pm On Mar 17, 2015
patches689:
How do you know they arent south african?

Strange how people from different countries would know how to operate the vehical and the tactics to employ with it...
An MRAP is as simple to drive from point A to point B like a Toyota 4Runner.

REVA MRAP is NOT a T-72 tank, so what are they operating on it, missiles or anti-tank 125 mm cannon systems and electronics?

Until you show us proof of nationality for those men, they are unknown beasts of no nation....not South Africans.

All we have is one confirmed Southie mechanic in NE war zone. May his gentle soul R.I.P. amen
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:52pm On Mar 17, 2015
patches689:
A couple hours ago you tried to lie to us and say that you were buying 15 000 new rifles
There that was human error, the sources have 1,000 and 5,000 rifles in two batches which I mistakenly mixed up as 15,000.

Notice that I corrected that in my posts over 8 hours ago.

No big deal. I quoted 6,000 afterwards and everyone saw that
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:41pm On Mar 17, 2015
saengine:
You are the very same person who said REVA III was bought buy Equitorial Gunea when i posted those pics with white men at the gun turret. You even posted in big bold letters!! Did you think we would suddenly forget? Are you mentally stable?


Now you want to pretend as if you knew all along that Nigeria had REVA III, when you have already claimed they do not exist in Nigeria. grin grin

So admit your mistake f00l. Bow down and apologise.
I proved Equitorial Guinea bought REVA MK III with clear source posted by me.

First REVA MRAP seen in Nigeria was MK V

No official publication has ever said Nigeria bought any type of REVA MRAP, we only got photo of one REVA ambulance MK V being transported by road.

Nobody knows all details of Nigerian equipment until we see some of them because of government secrecy policy of Nigerian military.

So how is that our fault? Am I Nigerian army chief of staff with full list of all new weapons/equipment purchased yesterday?

By the way, can you identify the difference between REVA MK III and MK V ?

BTWN Nigeria owns all the REVA MRAPs in the Maiduguri road photos, and the PMC guys are NOT South Africans until you show us their names and nationalities with infallible PROOF !

I do agree we turned some SADF ex-troops into casual labour mechanics, it's not our own apartheid version, it's just that Nigeria is powerful enough to make a white South African wash our toilets if we want it
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