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Patchesagain:
Average Nigerian infantryman doesnt have the it

The average Nigerian infantryman has a copy of a copy of a gun from the 1950's

Nigeria uses OBJ-006 version of year 2000s generation not the old AK-47 of 1950. Data specs of OBJ-007 is classified.

SANDF R4 rifle is a copy of Galil which is a copy of 1950s AK-47.

The average SANDF infantry man has NEVER used his R4 rifle in any combat since he was recruited, he only knows THIZA's internet based online-virtual army photo club.

Those Nigerian army rifles have drank the red blood of over 50,000 enemy fighters all over Africa in the last 25 years, the average Nigerian soldier is a killer machine
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DieVluit:
But the III you NEVER bought.

That's the point.

Now, if you never bought it, the IIIs in the picture are NOT YOURS.

Belongs to who, Lesotho or Bostwana ?

You lost the argument....Troll
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DieVluit:
Reva III?

Hahahaha!


what a joke!

So what? Nigeria keeps buying new weapons every day and has NOT made any public official list, we only know what we see by photos.


Now show me PROOF of South African mercenary owning REVA MRAPs....you lost the argument....you liar
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DieVluit:
Reva IIs. Not III.

You bought Reva IIs.

Nigeria owned the same REVA MRAPs that your phantom mercenaries drove in Maiduguri, and same Nigerian army was in that same column with the PMC guys.....same type of REVA MRAP....Mumu

The PMC guys are NOT South Africans.....and South African mercenaries DO NOT own any REVA MRAP....show us proof of photos

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DieVluit:
Reva IIs. Not III.

You bought Reva IIs.

Citation needed
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DieVluit:
I asked a question - when did Nigeria purchase Reva IIIs?

The answer to that question is: "never".

It then follows - the Reva IIIs do not belong to Nigeria.

No citation needed for something that Nigeria never did. You never bought Reva IIIs.

When did Nigeria buy this REVA MRAP ?
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DieVluit:
When did Nigerian purchase Reva IIIs?

Never.


Therefore, those Reva IIIs are not Nigeria's.

Citation needed.

Also, could you show us photo of South African mercenaries in Iraq driving REVA MRAPs?
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Msauza:
MOST OF SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARIES ARE WORKING FOR BLACKWATER MORE THAN AMERICANS THEMSELVES. FACT!!!!

Citation needed
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jln115:
its ok the sandf website agrees with me.

Yes it agrees with you that R4 range is inferior to Beryl range and SANDF troops gets picked off like rabbits from 100 metres distance advantage by Nigerian infantry
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Msauza:
YOU ARE A LIAR, SA HAD OVER 10 000 MERCENARIES AND THE MOST HIGHLY PAID IN IRAQ, JUST MORE THAN ANY COUNTRY THAT PARTICIPATED IN IRAQ. SA MERCENARIES ARE EVEN RESPECTED BY US SPECIAL FORCES.


HAVE YOU EVER EVEN ASKED YOURSELF WHY NIGERIA LITERALLY CRAWLED TO THEM TO ASKED FOR HELP?

Actually, we turned a few of them to casual labour mechanics, that's the best offer they qualify for here in Nigeria, basic mechanics.

Russia has more mercenaries than South Africa after Mujahedin war in Afghanistan.

Most of the ex-SADF are now aged between 50 to 70 years for those still alive, they have passed their prime. Many of the ones alive are sick, disbaled and on wheel chair or poor health and cannot go to war again for ever.

The whole SADF army in Bush war that has experience was only 4,000 men. A lot of them died or got disabled in battle. Most of the 4,000 SADF troops were just regulars, not special forces of any kind.

So where did you get 10,000 South African mercenaries all ex-soldiers with war experience?

Citation needed
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DieVluit:
In fact, Nigeria is only known to have bought the Reva II. Those in the picture are Reva IIIs, which can only mean one thing - they are in Nigeria because of the South Africans.

Only SA drives REVA MRAP?

Could you show us photo of South African mercenaries in Iraq driving REVA MRAPs?

There are many REVA MRAP users around the world, see one below, security forces of Yemen.

Nigeria has South African ex-soldiers turned into casual mechanics and electricians, that's the only job we use your white-heads to do
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Msauza:
Bro you asked for a picture of mercenaries and I provided you with one. Those are South African mercenaries, they have been using the same REVAs in Iraq and they patronise them so much. It could be that they recommended your government to acquire about 30 of them, dummy.

The best mercenary team in Iraq is actually American NOT South African

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/prince-of-mercenaries-who-wreaked-havoc-in-iraq-turns-up-in-somalia-2191270.html
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iterator24:
all the whites are South Africans according to you... 30% brain

The SA guys are mumus

jln115:
www.army.mil.za/equipment/weaponsystems/infantry/R4_R5%20Assault_Rifles.htm

Your own South African Defenceweb does not agree with you.

Anyway, still your R4 remains inferior to our Beryl
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Patchesagain:
No - stop telling lies.

You are buying 1000
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2014/12/16/nigerian-defense-ministry-orders-assault-rifles-from-poland/20490297/

The average Nigerian soldier has a clone of an AK-47 with an effective range of 350m

It is we who outrange you

6,000 Beryl rifles in total from two batches....according to your very own source !

"WARSAW – The Nigerian Defense Ministry has ordered 1,000 assault rifles from Polish firearms maker Fabryka Broni Lucznik. The 5.56mm Beryl rifles will be supplied to Nigeria’s Army in January, and senior company representatives say they expect the country’s Defense Ministry to order a further 5,000 weapons next year, reports local news agency PAP."

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2014/12/16/nigerian-defense-ministry-orders-assault-rifles-from-poland/20490297/
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Patchesagain:
Remeber when augugubugug was talking about ground search radar:

Under the programme, SANDF has acquired a total of 14 Thales Squire ground surveillance radars, 65 Sophie thermal imagers, processors and communications equipment, as reported by Defence Web.

Featuring the frequency modulated continuous wave (FMCW) Doppler radar, the Squire is a portable medium-range ground surveillance radar that is designed to detect and identify people in camouflage at ranges of more than 10km and moving tank-sized vehicles distances from as far away as 48km.

The radar is integrated with automatic target classification facilities for persons, wheeled vehicles, tracked vehicles and helicopters, and cannot be detected by hostile electronic support measures (ESM) equipment and radar warning receivers.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/newssouth-african-army-receives-new-tactical-intelligence-system

Yet again, SANDF is acquiring equipment Nigeria could only dream of

No, it is SANDF that is dreaming with an empty pocket about buying what Nigerian military has today.

Your South Africa has never deployed guided missile drones in combat before....SANDF struggles to catch up with NA and NAF !

https://www.techlahore.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ch3nov2mo8.jpg

https://a405.idata.over-blog.com/4/22/09/08/China/China-Army/China-drone/CH-4/CH-4-UAV.jpg


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Patchesagain:
Nigeria has never hosted THE FIFA World cup

Half-illiterate Soweto school drop-out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_FIFA_U-17_World_Cup

http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/u20worldcup/nigeria1999/

Patchesagain:
This is beyond childish

This guy is bragging about 1000 rifles when the majority of his army uses a copy of a copy of an AK47

Please

Nigeria is buying 6,000 Beryl rifles, enough to equip 10 battalions of SANDF infantry.

Envy us and collapse, we out-range you in fire fight
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jln115:
Actually its 500m, and its the only aspect where the Beryl is better, besides at those ranges we have the R1 or R4DMR designated marksmans rifle, assault rifles are used for mostly for close combat thus there are designated marksman rifles for longer ranges.

R4 rifle effective range is only 450 m, Beryl is 600 m.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6250:fact-file-r4-assault-rifle&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

http://en.fabrykabroni.pl/?d=111

Stop posting false data here dude !

Nigerian infantry will k.ill SANDF troops and save them the trouble of dying slowly from HIV.

We wipe your riflemen out from safe distance you wont even see us

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jln115:
Google is free of charge.

South African R4 rfle effective range 450 m

Nigerian Beryl rifle effective range 600 m

We pick off and knock off your HIV ridden army like toy soldiers from over half a kilometer away, and you won't even see us
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jln115:
HAHAHAH what u/13 world cup?

Nope , not U-13.

Nigeria has hosted TWO FIFA world cups. South Africa hosted only one. Deal with it

jln115:
Its ok they gave us the 2010 fifa world cup in the end, how many has Nigeria hosted?

Nigeria has hosted two FIFA world cups. Google is free of charge
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jln115:
How is the Beryl better?
R4 has:
Better Rate of fire
Better Muzzel velocity
Bigger magazine
and the same firing range

Wrong data. Citation needed.

Nigerian soldiers with Beryl rifles will k.ill South African soldiers with R4 rifles from extra range advantage of 150 meters, you won't even get close to our lines
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Niger Delta militant? You said it all. Wetin pursue you commot from creeks of Niger Delta?

This thread is on page 1926 and has generated enough material to educate you.

Otherwise, just enjoy your ignorance ... as I no get your time!!

10/10 post
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ukemeramat:
@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

Rifles alone don't win wars.

Nigerian army paid Poland for 15,000 units of Beryl Carbine rifles far superior to South African army's R4 rifles . You are lost in time about Nigerian army's current capacity and modernization, your old days of Niger Delta militancy level of weaponry has passed. My brother your database has become outdated. Sorry o !
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Thiza:
HELP NIGERIA SOUTH AFRICA

South African military needs to help itself first, you have over 30 battalions of half dead soldiers struggling with HIV in their blood. Save yourselves first
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Patchesagain:
Maybe the Ambrear as our tanker?

It could make a great tanker/EW/CnC platform

they are allready pushing hard for us to get it (see pic)

SAAF has shortage of aviation fuel for the tiny fuel tanks of Gripen jets, now you want to buy giant size air to air refuelling tanker aircraft.

What fuel will your tanker load when you have no aviation fuel, Cooking oil or Palm oil ?
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jln115:
Your source:

"The Congolese army retook one of the last remaining strongholds of the M23 rebels."

So who retook the rest?

United Nations force, the FIB that included Tanzania, Malawi, and the artillery forces of Tanzania, the special forces of Tanzania, and air combat support by Ukranian air force Mi-35 Gunships, all under the command of a Tanzanian army brigadier general. That war has too much multinational African and European content for South Africa to take any glory beyond 20%. The Tanzanian army D-30 artillery units wrecked M23 positions before SANDF could team up with other ground troops and move in.

That Congo DRC M23 war has too much mixed UN multinational armies and air forces input, it's hard for any country to claim more glory than others
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Patchesagain:
The SSTD detects torpedoes - that is all

While the SSTD is only really effective against ancient Soviet ERA torpedoes

Development of the SSTD helps cover a serious threat to major U.S. ships from Soviet-designed torpedoes initially developed in the 1960s, naval analyst Norman Friedman told USNI News.


And now the killer blow: The system that destroys the torpedoe is not in service:

NAVSEA has more testing for the SSTD system scheduled for this year and plans to have the CAT and TWS reach so-called initial operational capability by 2019 and Fleet wide adoption of the system by 2035.
http://news.usni.org/2013/06/20/navy-develops-torpedo-killing-torpedo

So, the facts remain unchanged: A South African Heroin Class submarine defeated an entire NATO task force

And again, I ask you show us a NATO warship armed with anti-torpedo countermeasures

I showed you, HMS Daring and HMS Duncan among others have been operating SSTD since OVER 6 YEARS AGO !

The USA naval fleet is testing a new SSTD to add the ones they already have, that's the 2035 date, but for OVER 10 YEARS AGO, NATO ships have deployed SSTD anti-torpedo weapons, I only posted the US Navy new tests to prove you wrong when you claimed the SSTD only detects enemy submarine torpedoes, you told a big lie and I proved you wrong, SSTD detects and destroys submarine launched torpedoes.

NATO fleet fooled the whole South African navy when they deceived your car washerman level Soweto brains that SAN have sunk a NATO warship in war game.....fools

Electronic warfare
and decoys:
UAT16
Surface ship torpedo defence (SSTD)
Airbone Sys IDS300 decoy


Aircraft carried: 1-2× Lynx HMA8, armed with;
4× Sea Skua anti ship missiles, or
2× anti submarine torpedoes
or
1× Westland Merlin HM1,[11] armed with;
4× anti submarine torpedoes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Daring_%28D32%29

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Electronic warfare
and decoys:
UAF-1 ESM, or, UAT Mod 1
Seagnat

Type 182 towed torpedo decoy
Surface Ship Torpedo Defence


Aircraft carried: 1 × Lynx HMA8, armed with;
4 × Sea Skua anti ship missiles, or
2 × anti submarine torpedoes
or
1 × Westland Merlin HM1, armed with;
4 × anti submarine torpedoes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_23_frigate

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I have listed two of the many British warships above, now see one of Norway's five all warships armed with anti-torpedo weapon systems to defeat any submarine....


Electronic warfare
and decoys:

Condor CS-3701 ECM:/ESM: suite Terma DL-12T decoy launcher, Loki torpedo countermeasure

4 × torpedo tubes for Sting Ray torpedoes 1 × spare 8- cell Mk41 VLS launchers Anti-Submarine missiles


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fridtjof_Nansen-class_frigate

The above Norwegian navy warship was available since 2004 before the Dutch came to deceive your dullard Soweto navy admirals in 2007, your white Dutch Boer European masters from Holland have always fooled you and they will continue to fool and rule you South Africans till infinity

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Patchesagain:
we are talking logistics here jackass

The point is simple, we can move men in ways you could only dream of

SANDF = Virtual-Online Internet Web Based Military
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Patchesagain:
Nope - exibiting skills and capabilities you could only dream of

1. We deployed C130's, DAK's, CASA's and Oryx to the DRC to help with elections - again with short notice

2. We mobilized and deployed under 12 000 SANDF personel to Qunu in under a week for Madiba's funeral

3. We deployed a battalion of men, Gripen, Rooivalk, Oryx and C130's to DRC in under a week after the CAR

SANDF are generations ahead of Nigeria in terms of logistical organization and pulling off effective operations

We have capabilities you can only dream of

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Hollywood expert SANDF :

Combat history chart, worst military achievement list, Internet-Web Based-Online Military of South Africa...

1. The number 1 mission was political election job....INEC and police duty

2. The number 2 mission was a funeral ceremony....MIC casket undertakers duty

3. The number 3 mission was after battle as ended, nothing to do.....Latecomers/Cowards duty

Nigerian air force flew over 6,000 combat sorties in few months, even firing guided missiles !

South Africa's military ranking is looking close to that of Botswana, honestly !

Global Firepower needs to see the above list !

SANDF has a virtual internet based military, this force is not real o !
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Patchesagain:
Auguugubgugugug - did you even bother reading about what SSTD is?

Its not countermeasures - its torpedo detection

Again, (its now day 4) show us a NATO vessel armed with anti-torpedo countermeasures

Yes I did, HMS Duncan, HMS Daring, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Daring_%28D32%29

Looks like you did not finish high school, and you can only qualify to be a basic casual battery charger in Nigeria.

NATO ships have SSTD and it means Surface Ship Torpedo Defence, it is on HMS Duncan and many, very many other warships all over the world not just NATO, even in Asia under different manufacturer/brand types.

SSTD detects and destroys submarine torpedoes very easily...NOT only detection, it destroys submarine torpedoes....


"WASHINGTON (NNS) -- USS George H. W. Bush (CVN 77) conducted the first aircraft carrier-borne end-to-end at-sea test of the Surface Ship Torpedo Defense (SSTD) System, the Navy announced, June 6.

The Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo is being developed by the Pennsylvania State University Applied Research Laboratory (PSU-ARL). It is designed to locate, home in on and destroy hostile torpedoes. Over the four-day testing period, Bush engaged seven torpedo-like targets with seven Countermeasure Anti-Torpedoes. Designed to validate the end-to-end of the system, the testing proved successful.

This first end-to-end test of the SSTD System achieved several firsts: the first Torpedo Warning System detection of targets from a carrier, the first automatic detection and automatic targeting of an incoming torpedo target from a ship, the first launch of Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo from a carrier and the first end to end Torpedo Warning System and Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo system detection-to-engage at-sea test.

"It is gratifying to have these tests go so well," said Rear Adm. David Johnson, program executive officer, Submarines, whose portfolio includes the Undersea Defensive Warfare Systems Program Office. "The engineering involved to detect a hostile torpedo, process its direction, speed, depth, and then engage it with a carrier-launched Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo is impressive. I am confident that the fleet will be pleased with the results.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=74665

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