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MikeZA: And?

stop disturbing my photo arrangement. 6 pics. Be patient

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Then we see the proof of real Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR that look exactly like Nigerian NAF Beachcraft 350ER ISAR.

No single difference, all are the same.

http://newsroom.beechcraft.com/news/hawker-beechcraft-sets-speed-record-with-multi-mission-beechcraft-king-air-350er/


The manufacturer even provided a labelled diagram that shows proof, the pod under belly is a radar, and always a radar for ALL 350ER versions

[size=14pt]Nigeria has Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR version rocking the skies of Africa

case closed ! [/size]

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Now these are the new Nigerian 3 units Transport Versions of Beechcraft 350i NAF is still awaiting, they have NO radar underneath them.

They cannot carry cargo pods because Beechcraft 350 series do NOT carry cargo pods as standard or options.
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zaandrew: And they not talking about your beachcraft, we all know NAF 2 MPA aircraft.

yeah are some pics

http://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled22.png
http://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled.png
http://e1.photos.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/1a412f910c8686e0fe2386305bf6c03eac85e99d

civilian with cargopod

www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/5/5/2142554.jpg">http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/5/5/2142554.jpg

Nigerian with cargo pod

http://iho.hu/img/repules_14_03/140317_textron/Hawker_Beechcraft_King_Air_350ER.jpg
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/emptys/89406/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011.jpg


www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/8/3/1429380.jpg">http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/8/3/1429380.jpg

350ER

Witch one does the Nigerian one look like

Now for the Beechcraft War !

Look Mr. Fraudrewza, you don't try to fool a Nigerian, we are the smartest people on this continent.

Go play tricks on the Lesotho people encircled like a piece of cake inside your territory. 10 South Africans CANNOT fool 1 Nigeri. an.

Beechcraft 350i and 350ER don't carry cargo pods, you are deliberately posting wrong photos of Beechcraft 200 and other old models with civilian cargo pods.

Beechcraft 350i and 350ER have exactly 8 small round port/side windows.

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 9 small round port/side windows instead of 8

https://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled22.png

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 6 small round port/side windows instead of 8

https://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled.png

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 9 small round port/side windows instead of 8


http://e1.photos.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/1a412f910c8686e0fe2386305bf6c03eac85e99d


Now the real Beechcraft 350ER you posted are from Dubai Air Show 2011.

So, at the airshow, the marketer attached extra extra hardware options on top and below the aircraft just for the air show, those are NOT the standard hardware on Beechcraft 350ER, they are just options you may likely add.

Your photos below are Dubai 2011 air show photo with extra promo hardware, not manufacturer basic standard.


http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011-89406.aspx

http://defence.pk/threads/dubai-airshow-2011.140404/page-6

[img]http://iho.hu/img/repules_14_03/140317_textron/Hawker_Beechcraft_King_Air_350ER.jpg[/img]
https://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/emptys/89406/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011.jpg


Now you proved yourself wrong by posting only one correct photo of Beechcraft 350ER, no extra hardware options added on top or below the aircraft, and that looks EXACTLY like Nigerian air force Beechcraft 350ER and the Manufacturer's standard 350ER.

See the photo below, you posted it from airliners.net ....

www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/8/3/1429380.jpg">http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/8/3/1429380.jpg

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MikeZA: He thinks the SU-27 is superior because it is super manoeuvrable.

You already admitted one superiority in the bold words

patches689: Gripen air search radar has a range of 120km

Su-27 has radar range of 100km

We will we watching them long before they know we are there

Use of a data-link means that Gripen can fly at ultra-low altitude with their radar off, and thus avoid detection and ambush the Su-27's

Olodo

Gripen fly low, what of Ethiopian army SAM missiles?

Gripen fly low, Su-27 radar has ground detection range about 60 km when Gripens of SAAF cannot attack BVR. Fool

Gripen switch off radar, yet it's metal body will still be detected by Su-27. Fool

Gripen switch off radar, does it switch off engine and body heat? Su-27 has IR detector search/track with 50km range. Fool

Jets don't k.ill with radar, they k.ill with missiles.

Ethiopian Su-27 jets has 80km range missile, South Africa has Gripen jets with 20km range missile.

You don't need a fortune teller to tell you that the Mighty Ethios will eat up Soweto Southies for breakfast


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBJNmNhfils

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MikeZA: Yes,M23 had multiple rocket launchers,mortars and the D30 122mm howitzer.

M23 was a dead horse flogged to death by United Nations cutting of Ugandan and Rwandan support before UN FIB attacked them, the whole world defeated M23, not your inexperienced SANDF mofos hiding behind Tanzania

andrewza: We only sent 200

http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2013/01/06/sa-troops-arrive-to-secure-capital-of-central-african-republic

Okay 200 SANDF ?

zaandrew: It was 250 odd vs 3000. Only half the number of partroopers where deployed.

Now it's 250 SANDF ?

Which one now? How many SANDF fought Seleka ?

andrewza: Only you and other fvcktard nigerians on this forum have doubt.

Well this same Soweto newspaper says 400 SANDF

"The defensive positions of more than 400 South African soldiers, including paratroops, were overrun at the weekend during a 13-hour battle with more than 3000 Seleka rebel forces."

http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8555931


200 SANDF, 250 SANDF, 300 SANDF, 400 SANDF......now which one do we believe?

South Africa cannot count it's own soldiers in Bangui but you counted all Seleka rebels inside their own camp, abi ? M.ad man

You see why nobody believes all these your war propaganda of fake victory, fake heroes, fake sniper record, and fake casualties ?

South Africa is the most deceitful nation in the world !

PROVED BEYOND DOUBT !
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andrewza: During war what do you think takes prioty. Defence or educastion, infustructer delpoment extra extra.

Current cost cuting army trains 3000 at bmt a year using one training facitly. Since the navy trains 300 per intake at a facty built to train 1000 plus I don't see the training being a problem.

We have a few hundred thousand rifels in storage

We build around 1000 apc a year for the export market and we have 600 ratels in stors. So wepaons, training, transport and budget is coverd.

You are planning for war on your laptop, not in real life. When real war comes, your theory will be choked by reality of practicals, that's life.

Show us proof you have 300,000 rifles in storage and military grade all in good condition.

Show us proof you will build 1,000 APC a year in RSA, are you now China? How big are your factories?

You need 35, 000 vehicles to move a 350,000 man army well protected around a war zone.

You are just a Day Dreamer ! Your South African SANDF has never deployed up to 5,000 soldiers at once in a war. Day Dreamer
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andrewza: The uk has enough money for that. We don't. So what has nigeria given up for there numbers since you don't have nealy the budget of the UK mod

So you admit South Africa has no money for 130,000 man army, and you said in war you will EASILY build a 350,000 man army?

You are just a craaaaaazy navy cook

Helghast: Dude I didn't say you only need 2 thousand soldiers to protect an entire country, the two thousand soldiers I'm talking about would be soldiers who would be use as the main fighting force, once the two thousand soldiers complete a mission and remove B.H from a certain position, the army would then post other soldiers or police to act as guards
And make sure that B.H doesn't resurface in that area.

The 2000 soldiers are used as the main fighting force that secures an area then the army deploys guard to protect that area...

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And don't forget that Britain has *REAL* enemies, with *REAL* Armies, the countries opressed by England pose a great threat to their safety, Russia, North korea etc... Are actual Countries with Armies not insurgents. Those guys need to maintain their strength because of the danger that surrounds them, unlike Nigeria which doesn't have any real enemies besides B.H, you don't have people pointing W.M.Ds and drones up your A** you guys will be practically safe once you deal with the insurgency problem.

First part, you did not express yourself well, my reply was right for what you expressed in your original comment.

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Britain is under no threat by any enemy in this era. It is an island surrounded by water and far away from ALL trouble spots of this world.

They keep a 130,000 man army because they know the importance of size.

zaandrew: SA at full war time econmy would be able to easily field 350,000

Who told you it is 'easy' to field extra 300,000 soldiers when war comes? How many training facilities do you have to produces new 300,000 soldiers and add to your current 50,000 ?

Do you know the cost of extra personal materials and equipment for 300,000 new soldiers? A modern day fully equipped soldier costs about $10,000 to train and equip with ordinary rifle, no vehicle, no transport, no heavy equipment, no firepower, just riflemen alone.

300,000 men with only one rifle each will cost South Africa $3 Billion !!!!!

You are gonna build a rag tag army of 300,000 new rifle soldiers, no APC, no Tanks, no Artillery, no Helicopters

SANDF has NEVER deployed 5,000 men as the same time to battle in it's entire history so you don't know how much Nigeria spends to maintain 20,000 men against Boko Haram
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zaandrew: That was perfmant force, reserve force and commandos. I mean 350 000 permant force. That was our size during the mid 1990s though most where ex librastion forces. The numbers where dropped prety fast.

Aguby all so fails to take in to account that nigeria has 170 million people where SA is 55 million. SA has more solders per civlian rastio than nigeria. And our budget needs to be dived among less people. Haveing a big army does not help if the poorly equiped, trained, motivated and led.

Soldiers are not policemen who are matched with number of people they have to monitor, you don't have crime where you don't have people. Soldiers defend land mass, not population size. Fighters occupy land whether people live there or not. ISIS is occupying empty land in Iraqi desert, means he is cutting off part of your territory to make his own nation inside your own nation.

Britain has 64 million population and 130,000 man army
South Africa has 54 million population and 50,000 man army

You just like misleading people, and you say you are a trained soldier, you think more like a policeman
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zaandrew: He is a reporta. I am glade he did not call a R4 a macgin gun. He was talking about a MLRS the name is what gave it away.

There where 7000 seleka. He never said all of them took part in the attack.

No it was 250 odd vs 3000. Only half the number of partroopers where deployed. The 1500 is old numbers.

SANDF had 400 men in the fight according to your own country sources...

"The defensive positions of more than 400 South African soldiers, including paratroops, were overrun at the weekend during a 13-hour battle with more than 3000 Seleka rebel forces."

http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8555931

You can count your own country's soldiers you deployed in battle, but you cannot count the enemy fighters that are a.ttack.ing y.ou, or have you seen people doing population census head count inside a hot battle zone where shells are e.xploding and h.uman b.lood is flowing like water?

Did any South African enter Seleka camp to count their numbers? ...and Seleka did not c.ut o.ff his Soweto head?

It is wrong to say 200 SANDF Vs 7,000 Seleka. Did your 200 men fight 7,000 men for 18 hours and survive? You ever seen any such in modern warfare history?

That is the big sign of a propaganda report, same thing South Africa did in Angola/Cuba Vs SADF bush war, it's your trademark, lies, fraud.

A journalist who claims to be giving first-hand information from SANDF officers and is still writing "Anti-Aircraft Rockets Used To Attack Towns" has destroyed the whole story he wrote, he has ZERO credibility, and the SANDF men he called heros are all ZEROES.

Your 2km sniper kill range story is also fake, it's proof is only what one South African propagandist edited on Wikipedia.

See, reputable world news media avoided reporting SANDF stories of war in C.A.R and Congo DRC, they don't want to get messed up with South Africa's usual propaganda campaign of making cowards look like world class heroes, it destroys credibility.

Go fvck yourselves in South Africa with your fake war achievements, the rest of the world is too wise !

South African military is ZERO and not any hero. FACT !

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zaandrew: every you do not like is propergander, yet you have never ever been able to prove it because you are a dipshit moraan with no brains and a waist of oxygen.

You this old Navy chef-cook, you know nothing about war

Your Congo DRC war SANDF fortune teller wrote story and said M23 fired anti-aircraft rockets on towns and cities. LOL

Is there any weapon like that in this world? No, it does not exist.

That first lie has shown you a fraudulent South African propaganda story as usual.

He said SANDF had 200 troops fight 7,000 Seleka !!!!!! Second Big lie !!!!!

The truth is 400 SANDF and 1,500 Seleka !!!!

SANDF figure from South Africa, and Seleka figure from France.

The story is full of false information and so has ZERO credibility.

Sorry Mr. Fraudrewza, your story is a big lie from the pit of hell, better luck next time !

South African army is a ZERO and not a hero in Congo DRC war !

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Msauza: So what is the problem with them?

Ask America/Britain/NATO what was the problem with them in their war against Taliban in Afghanistan after 11 years of super power military show of combat capability that ended in a stalemate and withdrawal.
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zaandrew: http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/08/22/south-africa-at-war-in-the-drc--the-inside-story

World class fraud, lies, propaganda and deception coming out the best place to expect it...South Africa
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Helghast: Yeah Congo was a mess before the FIB

And I honestly don't believe that Nigeria needs 150k Soldiers, 2 thousand extensively trained and highly mobile troops equiped with Tavors and upgraded AKs supported by heavily armed Cobras and Igirigis *not sure if i spelt that right*.

With all of that they'd be able to take control of the entire northern region.

Sorry your idea is for video games warfare.

2,000 soldiers for about 950,000 sq km land mass of Nigeria ? Go ask Britain why they are using 130,000 soldiers to defend their approx 250,000 sq km land
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Msauza: You are such a stupiiid, Gripen are equipped with a warning device to warn the pilot timeously about the impending danger from an incoming missile. The pilot would then take counter-measures to overcome the danger.

Eritrean MiG-29 jets in year 2001 had missile warning, radar warning, and counter measures and still got s.hot down in air to air combat.

Nowadays there are missiles that refuse to be confused by counter measures. Ethiopia will use South African Gripen jets for s.hooting practice. FACT !

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Helghast: I've noticed that many african countries prefer quantity over the quality of our soldiers, maybe that's why its so hard for many of us to protect our countries.

Nigeria has about 150,000 soldiers and we are over-stretched spreading all over our land mass to fight Boko Haram.

South Africa has 50,000 soldiers and that's 3 times smaller an army than Nigeria's... on your land mass somewhat bigger than Nigeria !

If Boko Haram was in South Africa, your country will collapse under the heavy pressure of an insurgency that appears and disappears at random in multiple locations you don't expect or predict, and mixed up with civilians to confuse you.

Large armies prevent large countries from being overrun by lightly armed threats that are very mobile and of no fixed permanent base and mixed up with civilians.

One man one rifle looks cheap, but hey, it will save you in COIN war. My boss told me in the office some days ago, he said..."Augustine, Boko Haram cannot survive in America, we have 100 million civilian guns including assault rifles, we will k.ill every Boko Haram fighter on our streets, the US Army will just arrive to pick up dead bodies".

One man, one rifle !
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zaandrew: And other than your 2 MPAs with there maritime search radar you have no survalnce aircraft

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Now chew on this, old shamless South African navy chef-cook ...


[size=14pt]NAF Announces 7 New ISTAR Aircraft for Nigeria.

Nigeria Now Rules Over Africa In Intelligence Surveillance Target Acquisition & Reconnaissance....ISTAR Power From Cape Town To Cairo !

Aircraft Arrives Lagos, Demonstrated With Super Radar Range Over 200km.

Confirmed By Nigerian Air Force. [/size]

Nigeria has just bought another 7 new ISTAR aircraft and one has landed in Lagos, we just removed the plastic covers wrapped on it brand new and we popped champagne, 7 brand new world class most sophisticated 2014 ISTAR aircraft all bigger than Beechcraft for Nigeria, now we have about 12 ultra-modern state-of-the-art world's most sophisticated ISR-ISTAR aircraft rocking our world as the unbeatable African Giant of spy and recce.


" The country's military on Tuesday took the wraps off a new aircraft to tackle high-seas pirates off the country's coast, as well as maritime hijackers and oil thieves.

The high-tech plane is one of seven to be operated by the state-run Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA) and the Nigerian Air Force.

It includes sensors, radar and Electro-Optic Surveillance and Tracking (EOST) equipment, which houses three cameras to monitor ships in Nigerian waters, said NAF Sergeant Sunday Olalekan Omotosho.

"When fully operational, no vessel can escape our coverage," he told reporters before a demonstration flight from Lagos to Escravos.

The 20-seat plane can fly as low as 200 feet (60 metres) above the sea and passes on information to the navy, who can intervene
with fast-attack craft if necessary, he added.

"With this aircraft, we can spot any vessel hundreds of kilometres away," said NAF Air Group Captain Enobong Eneh Effiom."

http://www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/military-showcases-aircraft-tackle-piracy

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MikeZA: ISR=/=Radar. A drone without radar can still fill that role. Ever heard about "smart buyers"? The Defence force through our defence industry modifies equipment that is bought overseas from the Valour class frigates to the Gripens.

Sounds like you have started mating a frog as I suggested
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MikeZA: Ethiopian pilots? Shoot down what? All fighter jets found in sub-saharan Africa are inferior to the highly modernised SA Gripen.

Ethiopian Su-27 jets will wipe out South African Gripen jets with Ethio BVR missiles from 40km away, your over-rated Gripen pilots won't even see who s.hot them d.own, they will just realize they are in heaven...or hell
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MikeZA: with the Carl Zeiss Argos pod the A109 helicopter,can do reccon and other stuff.

You don't have Any ISR A109 helicopter. That pod is NOT radar. The avionics of SAAF Augusta helicopters are not configured to carry any pod, whether combat pod or peoples iPod .

Go fvck yourself or mate a frog if you wanna feel good by force
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MikeZA: I doubt you even understand that term. The A109 helicopter Carl Zeis Argos pod can fill that role.

SAAF A109 helicopters are transport and utility versions, Olodo rabata

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MikeZA: The SU-27 is super manoeuvrable too. However that doesn't mean it can take on a modernised F-16 fighter jet.

Modernized F-16 Vs Modernized Su-27, assume equal missiles and pilot skills, winner is Su-27.

Ethiopia flies modernized Su-27 purchased around year 2000 with BVR missiles and pilots experienced in 4th Gen aircraft combat.

Ethiopian air force will s.hoot down the whole South African air force in just one hour

Who has the strongest military in Africa?
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zaandrew: Only a foo can mistake a cargo pod for a radar. Those beachcraft of yours are even in a transport squdron and your airforce spoke about them as transport aircraft.

And don't say beachcraft does not over cargopods. Any number of companies could provid the vargo pods.

....and that is exactly what you are...a fool big time

Are those Beechcrafts the same? The channels TV video was May-June search for Chibok girls. That's the older Beechcraft ISTAR version painted white and brown 5N BMP.

The 3 new Beechcraft transport version NAF announced are still overseas, the white and blue painted NAF 202, 203, 204 announced by NAF this month August, maybe just about arriving now, last seen this month in Spain Canary Islands.

Even a person with low IQ can spot the difference. You @Andrewza has the devil father of lies living inside you. Please go for urgent deliverance.

Shame on all 50 million South Africans, nation of liars who want to be Africa's leader, you will just ruin this continent
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Troop101: . Ya,ya,ya!!! Ooooo please Fong Kong standards!!! Lmao

Over 60% of manufactured goods in South African economy are Fong Kong made in China !!! Ya ya ya !!! Lmao
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zaandrew: Until you start to read the comints

No need to look any further, Beegeagle posted all facts, and posted the video of NAF Beechcraft 350ER Reg Num 5N BMP flying to the air showing it's underbelly radar and showing the interior ISTAR equipment console displaying air to ground target acquisition screen in a very recent real life ISTAR special mission this June 2014.

The world of intelligent people don't care about any fools' personal comments when a manufacturer has declared data specs of it's aircraft and the photos, videos show it in full operation.

Even @Patches the great liar could not deny it is ISTAR

You are s.crewd @Andrewza....you sh.ot yourself in the foot, well deserved humiliation

PHOTO 1 : NAF Beechcraft 350ER in real life action prepares for take off on ISTAR mission

PHOTO 2 : The NAF Beechcraft 350ER shows interior ISTAR equipment target display screen during air to ground operation

Anyone denying these extra proofs, has the devil living inside him !

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