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zaandrew: northern Angola is closer to Nigeria than SA

Our frigates have long rang and we have strike craft in Durban. There is nothing along our west coast of note. Angola is not SA and is not our concern to chase your pirates there.

[size=14pt]South Africa now looks up to Nigerian navy for help with SADC ocean security where SANDF navy has failed woefully

Who has the strongest military in Africa?

Nigeria !

This ends the argument from page one of this thread.

What a sweet end indeed.

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zaandrew: and the version you have is civilian. there is zero indecision they any thing but transport only. Your beagal blog agrees

Now you have asked for trouble again, I am going to h.umiliate South African air force with photos and web links tomorrow morning, not today.

Your stupiidity has made you place fresh orders for insults to be heaped on South Africa's head, delivery time is 7am tomorrow.

We will know who is flying only civilian Beechraft versions

SAAF is 166 years behind NAF
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zaandrew: and the pirates came from your water and you where closer.

You sorted out your mess, what did you influence

If a frigat left from Simmons town it would take a few days to reach northern Angola. you guys where closer. So far we only patrolling for east coat pirats in any case. a known issue.

Nope ! Liar !

The southern Angola sea is much closer to South African territorial waters than Nigeria.

You failed geography in school, how did you enter soweto navy ?

Your navy has no single long endurance OPVs that are always at sea well positioned for emergency action.

Fools buy 7 frigates/submarine and zero OPV in peace time when crime is rising all over the worlds oceans.

The Angolan incident just showed SANDF has a useless peace time navy.

Over-rated sea force, Crap
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zaandrew: you do know that a beach king is all so a civilian aircraft, that you have reconfigured, sorry got some one to reconfigure for you to a MPA role. And you know SAAF has been flying the same aircraft you just got for a few years now?

Oh my God !!!!

Here is South African navy's senior potato frying cook-chef in kitchen brain display !!!!

Beechcraft aircraft has both civilan utility and transport versions and separate military surveillance versions called Beechcraft King Air 350ER special missions version.

South African air force is fvcking around with some fvcking transport versions Beechcrafts.

Nigeria is ruling Africa with military versions Beechcraft 350ER special missions dedictad ISTAR version purpose build ISTAR.

Go educate your onion frying brain on page 988 where I posted it in July when you were too busy cooking for your navy sailors in Simons Town base

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/988#25634747

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zaandrew: you send a bunch of hind to new Zealand

We received new powerful AW101s 2 units and Hind E night fighter helos 6 units I did not even count...we got extra 8.
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zaandrew: Do you have any idea how far Angola is from SA. Any case we on the east coast. On those pirates came from your neck of the woods and Angola is not south Africa.

Bwahahaha !!!

International security operations are not carried out by kilometer distance, they are governed by regional security arrangements. Nigeria is responsible for security in ECOWAS, while South Africa is responsible for security in SADC that covers Angola.

You guys posted comments boasting here last year that all SADC region countries have signed a security deal and that Nigeria cannot do anything in your region of influence.

Now pirates trouble came and South Africa's Frigate and Submarine photography navy is caught p.a.n.t.s down unable to respond to ordinary pirates invasion of her SADC region, they now say Nigeria is responsible for security in both ECOWAS and SADC, reason why they could not help Angola in distress and Nigerian navy saved Angola as Super Naija the giant of Africa.

Okay, we accept the new responsibility you Southies have put on your Nigerian master's shoulders. The Federal Republic of Nigeria is now responsible for the safety and security of all Africa from Cape Town to Cairo.

Valuor Frigates + Type 209 Submarines + Dakota aircraft + Gripen Jet + Caravan EW aircraft + Lynx ASW helicopters = ZERO Force Projection Beyond Simmons Town



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patches689: SAAF has over 70 helicopters

All of which are superior to yours.

NAF has 120 helicopters, 80 now plus 40 ordered.

SAAF is an over-rated dwarf standing tall by wearing high heeled shoes to pose for photographs

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zaandrew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAS_39_Gripen

In 1979, the Swedish government began development studies for an aircraft capable of fighter, attack and reconnaissance missions to replace the Saab 35 Draken and 37 Viggen. A new design from Saab was selected and developed as the JAS 39,

MiG 29, Su-27, F-16, Tornado, Mirage, JF-17, all are built capable of reconnaissance missions, so they become ISTAR special mission aircraft?

With supersonic jet speed and loud engine noise, short range, need of special runway, inability to loiter without detection, etc.

You don't know what a dedicated ISTAR aircraft is. I take it that you are a regular failure in military academy exams, but South Africa will keep promoting you according to national retaardendo policy.

Nation of Retaards
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patches689: South Africa revenues: $88.53 billion
expenditures: $105.5 billion (2013 est.)

Nigeria revenues: $23.85 billion
expenditures: $31.51 billion (2013 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

Our debt represents only 45% of our yearly tax revenue

Yours represents 85% of your yearly tax revenue

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Your source's revenue figures for Nigeria are VERY wrong, looks like an illiterate's mathematics.

Anyway, South Africans always fail Mathematics.

Oil & gas sales alone at 4 million barrels per day consolidated for crude oil barrels and converted cubic feet of natural gas, plus uncontrolled OSO Condensates that OPEC does not control with production quotas...

4 million barrels per day x $100 barrels per barrel x 365 days per year = $ 150 Billion approximately.

Nigeria revenue from oil and gas alone is about $ 150 Billion per year without counting Solid Minerals, Tax, etc.

You and your source must be living in the stone age when calculation was done by arranging small stones in a line and adding them up on the ground

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patches689: [size=15pt]Yet again you have been shown to be telling lies about the Beechcraft!![/size]

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I hate repeating posts especially when they are long.

I posted Nigerian Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft with photos and manufacturer technical data repeatedly in July, I think I have posted enough on that.

It has 80km ground search radar range and aircraft has travel mission 4,000km range.

Go back and chew it on page 988, Retaard of Gauteng province ;P ;P


https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/988

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patches689: What you just described is not ISTAR

Its run of the mill surveilance, like we have on the Lynx and Dakota .

Dakota flying coffin...Bwahahahaha ; D

Same Dakota that South African air force chief said are 66 years old and the poor air chief was crying to buy Nigeria's type of Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft ! LOL !

You are not even ashamed to put Mandela's national flag on a flying cucumber Dakota 66 year old rust bucket ; D
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patches689: Yet again our proven assets outweigh Nigeria's mythical assets

[size=14pt]There is NO single, purpose built, ISTAR dedicated , special missions, military aeroplane with a ground recce radar in the whole of South Africa today.

SANDF is not 66 years behind Nigeria, gap has increased, SANDF is now 166 years behind NAF.

Nigeria is South Africa's ISTAR master

Go fry your chicken with petrol

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zaandrew: again they where built to be recon aircraft from the grounds up. Most of the recon in Angola in the late 80s was done by jets.

Jet fighter = ISTAR platform

Sure you failed exams in military academy, they just promote you in South Africa as part of backward policy
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patches689: Yes, no one in Africa has better tactics for cowardice in the face of the enemy

In Apartheid South Africa he would have been shot for such conduct. Even today in our liberal, open, free and fair society... he would look at a long sentence in detention barracks.

A coward Colonel for a coward army

That fact that you celebrate his cowardice shows that Nigerians are, in their hearts, cowards.

As is shown by your conduct in the Biafra war.

Tell America and Russia to s.hoot all CIA and KGB spies who operate inside enemy territory with disguise undetected.

I see South Africa has ZERO capability to plant a man disguised and undetected deep inside enemy territory.

Backward and tactless SANDF
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zaandrew: And what of the recon pods for the gripen and hawks.

A jet fighter or trainer is NOT an ISTAR dedicated purpose built multi-mission ISTAR aircraft. Pakistani F-7 PG jets carry recon pods, have they become ISTAR aircraft?

See why I call you Navy cook-chef ? ; D
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patches689: More reliable than a blog

You say defenceweb in unreliable... but you have yet to cite any instances of fraud or propaganda. Not to mention that it is part of a reputable media house.

Yet again, you see facts you dont like and shout "propaganda"

Pathetic

DefenceWeb is a blog like beegeagle, anybody in this world can log on to DefenceWeb and post personal comment anytime. You don't know what a blog is...ANC prisoner

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zaandrew: They gave there sources, as in the company that provided the upgrades. Has NAF told us who they getting to upgrad the stuff or where they buying 40 helicopters?

NAF and MOD said 40 combat helicopters, 30 units from USA and 10 units from Russia.

Weblinks were posted here with the 30:10 USA:Russia, source repeated on this forum many times when you were not here in July....mister 'newcomer'
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zaandrew: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9236:saaf-refreshes-caravan-fleet-&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

The South African Air Force is paying Interjet Maintenance (Pty) Ltd some R7.7 million for the provision of product support services for the Cessna C208 Caravan light transport.

The R7 786 400 contract – ELGS/2010/36 – was awarded last Thursday. The SAAF operates 13 of the aircraft after acquiring the type in 2008.

The SAAF uses the type as a light transport, aerial surveillance and electronic warfare (EW) platform[/i]. In 2007 the SAAF awarded a contract on Aerosud and Denel under Project Koiler for a day/night reconnaissance system for the C208.The contract involved the acquisition of three sets of mission equipment and the modification of 11 aircraft[i]. The aircraft, so equipped, was successfully used in Operation Kgwele, the drive to secure last year's FIFA Confederations Cup and this year's World Cup.

EW niche company Sysdel has also outfitted some Caravan aircraft as EW platforms. [i][/i]


The SAAF believes the C208 an serve at least another decade.


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/cessna_caravan_argos_400x300.jpg
https://www.saairforce.co.za/seed/public/files/article_images/1009/4e2b08f5c0e6b_large.jpg

Bwahahaha

Where was South African air force aircraft shown in your photo when pirates were snatching European ship in your SADC backyard and region of influence and Angola had to call Nigeria for help instead of calling South Africa as fellow SADC regional security member?

Pirates are also having fun on your other side, the Mozambique channel where SANDF Valour frigates are being dribbled around like Rhino poachers frustrated SANDF 31 Battalion soldiers and Special forces Battalion too?

Over-rated Banana Republic military, all about photos, zero real performance

South Africa is flying about in 3 old school caravan toy sized aircraft refitted for world cup stadium security NOT military use . LOL !

Those you tea cup sized flying mosquitoes have NO single sea search radar !

Nigeria has Beechcraft King Air Special Mission ISTAR aircraft with 80km range ground search radar, not to mention ATR-42 radar range 330km, now 7 units of new state-of-the-art world class ISR aircraft with long range radar and camera are landing in Nigeria and NAF is removing the fresh package covers to show the new African leader in ISTAR....Nigerian air force !

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patches689: hahahahah

the planes augubugugu was [telling lies about] is nothing more than a VIP transport

Olodo rabata . LOL !

NAF ordered 30 helicopters from USA and 10 from Russia, now extra 2 from Italy-Britain....means we getting 40 combat helicopters and 2 VIP transport helicopters.

Nigeria is buying more than government declared initially.

NAF has turned SAAF into a dwarf
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patches689: hahahahah

the planes augubugugu was [telling lies about] is nothing more than a VIP transport

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More humiliation for you after that of yesterday.

Swallow this and choke...Dumbo Domingo

The country’s military on Tuesday took the wraps off a new aircraft to tackle high sea pirates off the country’s coast, as well as maritime hijackers and oil thieves.

The high-tech plane is one of seven to be operated by the state-run Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA) and the Nigerian Air Force. It includes sensors, radar and Electro-Optic Surveillance and Tracking (EOST) equipment, which houses three cameras to monitor ships in Nigerian waters, said Sergeant Sunday Olalekan Omotosho.

“When fully operational, no vessel can escape our coverage,” he told reporters before a demonstration flight from Lagos to Escravos in the Niger Delta and over offshore platforms in the oil-producing southeast.

http://m.dailytimes.com.ng/article/military-showcases-aircraft-tackle-piracy

South African air force will now be 166 years behind NAF in ISTAR airborne capability

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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN WHEN A COUNTRY REACTS TO PRESSURE OF WAR WITHOUT PLANNING HOW TO REACT TO CHALLENGES....TYPICAL THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC

Nigeria’s total debt stock has again risen to a very high level of N10.4 trillion as at June 2014. The rising debt profile of the country is made up of external debt stock of N1.46 trillion ($9.377 billion), Federal Government domestic debt of N7.421 trillion ($47.653billion).

Nigeria's foreign debt is below $10 Billion.

South African foreign debt is above $40 Billion.

ANC Republic is the real Banana kingdom

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Msauza: COL AGU COULDN'T EVEN THINK IT WAS DEGRADING TO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN WHEN HIS LIFE WAS AT STAKE. @ AGAUGUST WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?

A single Nigerian army Colonel that was more intelligent than a whole battalion of Boko Haram fighters whom he fooled with military undercover spy tactics and walked through their defendes undetected.

Colonel Agu is James Bond of Africa. No South Africa soldier will ever achieve that until year 2080 when Nigeria as advanced to even better tactics than this one

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patches689: Nigeria was yesterday ranked the 15th most failed nation in the world, out of a total of 177 countries that were surveyed
http://www.proshareng.com/news/7135

And you do top the world terror rankings

Pooooh ! Failed state balderdash !

Nigeria hosted World Economic Forum of 1,000 world business tycoons and presidents just four month ago while Boko Haram was in the news.

Those 1,000 world corporate giant CEOs swore that NOTHING will stop them from investing fully in Nigerian business environment, the North Americans alone signed to invest $10 Billion, the Chinese signed to increase their 2014 investments from $20 Billion to almost double, Nissan motors opened new vehicle factory immediately after, Toyota signed to open car factory in 12 months...

Seems only flat headed retaards think Nigeria is a failed state....mumus
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patches689: Written by a Nigerian.

Do you want me to go count the posts that list South Africa, Algeria and Egypt as the undisputed top 3?

Also... the guy is clearly an slowpoke... Ghana would tear egypt to shreds?

Not written by a Nigerian, name is Anonymous so he could well be a honest South African.

You s.hot yourself in the foot.

Shows you the whole thread cannot be compared to what we have on Nairaland.

CraigB: Rubbish military, I say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28855292

Boko Haram crisis: Nigerian soldiers 'mutiny over weapons'

A group of soldiers in north-eastern Nigeria is refusing to fight Islamist Boko Haram militants until they receive better equipment, one of the mutineers has told the BBC.

The soldier, who requested anonymity, said at least 40 of his colleagues would refuse orders to deploy.

A defence ministry spokesman said the incident was being investigated.

A state of emergency that was declared in three north-eastern states last year has failed to curb the insurgency.

"Soldiers are dying like fowl," the soldier, who said he and his colleagues were just outside Maiduguri, told the BBC Hausa service.

"The Nigerian army is not ready to fight Boko Haram," he said, explaining that soldiers were not being given enough weapons and ammunition to take them on.

"Boko Haram are inside the bush, everywhere," he said "They [senior commanders] are sacrificing soldiers," he said.

Defence ministry spokesman Gen Chris Olukolade told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme that he could not confirm the reports of a mutiny but would investigate.

He denied that soldiers were being "sent to die".

"We may not have all it takes but we are improving on it [equipment] regularly," he said.

Boko Haram is fighting to create an Islamic state in Nigeria - and has stepped up its attacks after being pushed out of its bases in Maiduguri, the capital of Borno state, targeting towns and villages in deadly raids

[size=14pt]Rubbish Post, BBC News Report From Unknown Soldier Is False...


http://www.punchng.com/news/40-soldiers-vow-not-to-fight-bharam-report/


"The Defence headquarters spokesman, Gen Chris Olukolade, told the BBC’s Focus on Africa programme that he could not confirm the reports of a mutiny but would investigate.

He denied that soldiers were being “sent to die”.

“We may not have all it takes but we are improving on it [equipment] regularly,” he said.

But the Defence Headquarters, in a statement on Tuesday denied the report that troops in the North -East had taken a decision to refuse to obey directives from superior officers.

Olukolade, said in an electronic mail on Tuesday , said the level of cowardice described in the report was not in the character of the Nigerian soldier.


He described the interview granted the BBC as lies by an anonymous soldier.

Olukolade said it was part of the the antics of mischief-makers to promote the course of the Boko Haram sect.

He stressed that the military had not sent any soldier to the frontline without providing the necessary equipment."

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patches689: Finally flying your true colors

Racist scum.

And there are very knowladgeable posts there... they know what they are talking about.

Example:

I experienced the fighting qualities of my MOPOL when we were hit in ambush by armed robbers. My Mopol fell back on their E&E training, leaving 2 drivers to die

http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/22451691/what-the-best-african-army-only-military-expert

Yes ? Okay, your very knowledgeable posts includes this one from that your very source :

"In order from best to less best

>Nigeria
>Ghana
>Kenya
>Ethiopia
>South Africa

Any North African military would be absolutely torn to shreds by Nigeria or Ghana."

Nigeria is ranked number one military, South Africa is ranked number five

http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/22451691/what-the-best-african-army-only-military-expert

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Arabian style...Desert warrior...ride to Sahara ! Naija Soja

Rock 'N' Roll

Wait naah, no run, u be coward? Na demo...Jackie Chan dragon style ! Nigerian Defense Academy.

Helghast: Lol you think too highly of yourself, Henry120 MikeZA and AndrewZA go at each other every week, on this Thread, but they are very civilised to each other on the other thread.
Which means none of them take any of this ish seriously, its just a platform to release ones frustrations and nothing else, you take this ish too seriously bro.

Nope, I don't think of myself too highly, I work for team Nigeria on this forum.

Your Soweto republic guys planted a wind, and harvested a hurricane katrina as their reward, blame your countrymen for my hard-line stance, they all want to run Nigeria down....so I fight back. Simple

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Helghast: Lol you live a really sad life my friend, I can't believe that you think what you right makes people panic, I think you take the internet a little to literally my friend.

My friend, all your Southie mofos don't agree with your line of thought...they reply quickly, randomly, passionately, unanimously, ferociously, unrelentingly, and consistently to my comments for the past 2 years....proves that I am the insecticide, you guys are the insects. Get it sir?

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MikeZA: Show Us 50 dead bodies.

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The only photos of bodies available are those of South African army all over internet, if you cannot show us photo of any dead Seleka, it means ONLY your SANDF died in battle of Bangui, Seleka had maybe some wounded who recovered after medical treatment.

Simple.