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zaandrew: During the nato bombing of libya what where seedish gripens doing?

Please find another topic, jet fighters are not ISTAR platforms, many F-7 jets do reconnaissance too. Mumu.

"F-7BG 16 was delivered to Bangladesh in 2006 including with 4 two-seater FT-7BG. The capability to carry reconnaissance pods and operate the equipment inside the pods from the cockpit of earlier F-7MB is retained. Reported to use Grifo MG radar."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7

Your Gripen jet is NOT an ISTAR aircraft.

zaandrew: My mother was a baby back then. Hardly relvant now is it.

1982 Relevant forever, like you still quote Angolan Bush War 1980s. Story shows you have a retaared navy even in the best SADF era.

zaandrew: That is routs civlian ships use for trade not pirats you moraan.

Reason why pirates operate there...pirates go where ships are...retaaard.

" Six million tonnes of oil are transported around South Africa’s western coastline, which makes this a prime target for pirates’ (Sisulu 2011). It is clear therefore, that South Africa is growing as an anti-piracy actor having defined maritime piracy as a security threat to the region in recognition of a need to protect its self-interests in time of changing circumstances by stopping the spread of piracy before it become a serious problem in South African waters."

http://www.e-ir.info/2012/11/06/anti-piracy-actors-south-africa/

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FighterPilot: Defenceweb is like any other online media owned by professional media house (ITWeb) on the employ of more than 100 journalists. Defenceweb journalists get salaries every month, Beegeagle is just a blog. A blog can be registered by anyone even you @Agaugust you can have your own blog.

One man can own a website.

Big business companies in America have blogs.

Beegeagle can register his blog with a business name. Who told you Beegeagle has no staff? You know his office?

He can employ 1,000 people in his office, his website is still a web blog or a blog. Google the meaning.

A blog is also a website, only that the public can post comment anytime, that is what differentiates blogs from websites.

FighterPilot: South Africa to start building warships.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35925/

By year 2050
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FighterPilot: @Agaugust defence web is owned by an ITweb media house which has employed over hundred people. It is not a blog which can be owned by individuals and edited whenever the administrator feels like. It is a credible source and is very different from beegeagle.

Beegeagle is a very credible source, European media consult him, Nigerian navy consults him for partnership.

Beegeagle is the one who named Nigeria's new stealth warship NNS Centenary, that is powerful recognition
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zaandrew: you posted a committed to a article on defence web, not a article. Please go and try and post a article on defence web.

Same way you cannot post article on Beegeagle, you can only comment like I do on DefenceWeb too.

Now you try comment on Janes Defence and you will see the difference. DefenceWeb is a goddam blog !!!
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zaandrew: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35903:is-ghana-becoming-a-piracy-hot-spot&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233


In Nigeria, for instance, the navy and the maritime police need to coordinate their activities and increase collaboration – as demonstrated by the incident of the Histria Coral.

On 23 October 2013, a Nigerian maritime police unit mistook a small boat transporting Nigerian navy personnel for a pirate boat and opened fire on the vessel. Fearing the anger of the navy, the policemen locked themselves into the Histria Coral’s citadel (a safe room designed for crew members to seek protection in the event of an attack) for days before they were arrested.

HAHAHAHA

That was Nigerian police, not military....and nobody died in the shooting error.

Well, South Africa's 'experienced blue water navy' d.estroyed their own Frigate during sea training and sank it to sea bottom, k.illing many naval men...


"On 18 February 1982, while under the command of Captain de Lange, the President Kruger sank 78 nautical miles (144 km) south west of Cape Point after colliding with SAS Tafelberg in the early hours of the morning. The ship was involved in an anti-submarine exercise with another frigate, the President Pretorius that involved intricate manoeuvres around the Tafelberg. The bows of the Tafelberg impacted on the SAS President Kruger on her port side at the senior ratings’ mess, resulting in the loss of sixteen lives. A Westland Wasp helicopter, operated by 22 Squadron SAAF from the other frigate, rescued crew members from the water. "

http://scenicsouth.co.za/2012/01/sinking-of-sas-president-kruger-30th-anniversary-commemoration/



Bwahahahahahahahahahahah Pay Back time !!!!

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zaandrew: I don't think we ever asked you to help, this is more like angola say "hey Nigeria get your pirates off my back yard"

World Piracy map shows that pirates from Indian Ocean operate through South Africa and pass through your home front in Cape Town waters undetected by your sleeping navy


https://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/magazine/09/sailing_piracy_threat/img/sailing_piracy_threat_786map.gif


South African navy busy making hollywood photographs while Pirates from India escape through Cape Town

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Msauza: NAF has less than 40 helicopters. Ordered is not what you already have stuuupid.

40 ordered and staring to arrive this month, plus the current 80, NAF has 120 helicopters bought or paid for.

SAAF is stuck with 70 current and zero ordered, so we almost double your helicopter strength.

See how things this forum changed from page 1 to 1,065....no condition is permanent
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Msauza: THE ONLY BLUE WATER NAVY IN SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA IS ON THE TIP OF AFRICA AND THATS SOUTH AFRICA. FACT.

Your SANDF navy cannot do force projection to Angola, you depend on a 'brown water navy of Nigeria' to do it for you...

http://www.e-ir.info/2012/11/06/anti-piracy-actors-south-africa/
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zaandrew: There is nothing along our west coast of note. Angola is not SA and is not our concern to chase your pirates there.

South Africa has ZERO security in your west coast, you are depending on Nigerian navy to save the whole of ECOWAS down to SADC your own region of influence.

Since your navy is dead on that side you abandoned for Nigeria, then Nigeria can invade South Africa from Angolan side, we don't need to stay, we just get some toxic nuclear reactor wastes and dump them on South African soil and we sail back home. Your p.eople will d.ie small by small from radiation.

Even Liberia can drop ebola virus into the air on South Africa's west coast, where you have zero naval presence because you think you are safe.

Fools !

Pirates in Angola are your SADC pirates, they hijack European ships in your waters, they shifted there because you were patrolling Mozambiques side on the west, your one-eyed navy cannot watch two opposite sides at the same time, them pirates struck where you were not patrolling.

Your navy is a failure in peace time, and a waste of the billion dollar loan you borrowed from banks to buy submarines that have zero use to you today and maybe for ever !

Mumu nation, Somali pirates have wisely shifted from your west side to your east side of Angola, dribbling you as in Tom & Jerry


"Piracy does not currently present a problem within South African territorial waters; however, the country has become increasingly concerned about such acts since December 2010 when Somali pirates launched their southernmost successful attack, hijacking a Spanish fishing trawler, the Vega 5, and her 24 crew inMozambique waters (Mwangura 2012). This shift in activity southwards led to a recognition by South Africaof the need to act to curtail the threat. Whilst the South African Navy has spoken of its preparedness to tackle this threat, criticisms have emerged about the South African naval capabilities and their ability to undertake anti-piracy missions.

http://www.e-ir.info/2012/11/06/anti-piracy-actors-south-africa/"

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zaandrew: you send a bunch of hind to new Zealand

And I mean your hinds are gone.

No not Hinds, Hermits...trainer helicopters http://helihub.com/2014/03/24/nigerian-air-force-mi-34s-to-fly-again-in-new-zealand/

Andrewza, what is w.rong with y.our h.ead these days? You get brain Ebola?

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[size=14pt]The most powerful ISTAR air force in Africa is Nigerian air force

We have one of the best ISTAR capabilities in the whole world...[/size]

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[size=14pt]Nigeria`s ultra modern new surveillance aircraft with powerful Data-Link

Enter the secret Beechcraft King Air, sophisticated spy master of giant Nigeria

See the radar dome and data-link under the Nigerian SPECIAL MISSION aircraft

Flight range....about 5,000 km !!!

Long-range air to ground search radar with 80km range

12 hours flight non-stop[/size]


"King Airs are ideal surveillance aircraft. Each model features a large, pressurized, environmentally controlled cabin, high dash speed and extensive endurance. The King Air 350ER offers even more endurance, performing over-land surveillance with sufficient payload to operate a moving target indicator, synthetic aperture radar, EO/IR (FLIR), streaming video data-link, self-protection systems, The integrated sensor suite includes an MX-15 surveillance turret with long-range cameras and infrared to detect, track, classify and identify surface contacts. These capabilities can also be turned to limited maritime patrol, via long-range ship detection and imaging, and identification of small ocean targets in high sea states., and a wide variety of high-performance communications systems.

Imagery systems have been installed in virtually all models of the Beechcraft King Air. Today’s data link technology allows relatively simple transmission of real-time streaming video to fixed or vehicle-mounted ground receivers for timely dissemination to tactical units."

http://www.beechcraft.com/special_missions/surveillance.aspx

Notice the radar under the belly of the Nigerian aircraft....An all-weather sensor, provides photographic-quality images through clouds, rain, dust, smoke, and fog, in daylight or total darkness, detects time-sensitive targets and changes on the ground that may be undetectable by Electro-optical/Infrared (EO/IR) sensors.

Other aircraft have been received for world class surveillance capabilities by Nigeria, BUT IT IS HARD TO FIND MOST NIGERIAN EQUIPMENT AND WEAPONS ON INTERNET, we are more than what you see in photos or google, we are the armed forces of the Federal Republic Of Nigeria.

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zaandrew: We have 4 of those same beachcraft by the way.

Nope ! South African air force fvcks around with ONLY TRANSPORT versions Beechcraft called B200 model.

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/44/b200-super-king-air


Your SAAF Air Force Chief was crying to buy NAF type of ISTAR Beechcraft called B350i ER model, but his dreams failed

zaandrew: seen your photo and read your beagel blog. That thing under it you though was for EW gear and what not is for baggage.

Illiterate 'soldier' read the answer below...you this Dumbo Domingo

zaandrew: you mean that cargo pod undneath it for cargo

Navy Cook-Chef Andrewza, this is not potato and onions, Beechcraft 350i ER of Nigeria is a the version built with NO cargo pod allowed underneath by the manufacturer, instead, it has an ISTAR radome or radar dome...you are a Chef and tomato slicer in Mandela's navy.

http://planes.findthebest.com/compare/50-106/Hawker-Beechcraft-Beechcraft-King-Air-350i-vs-Pilatus-PC-12-NG

zaandrew: you do know that a beach king is all so a civilian aircraft, that you have reconfigured, sorry got some one to reconfigure for you to a MPA role. And you know SAAF has been flying the same aircraft you just got for a few years now?

I just showed you above how illiterate you are, you just disgrace all South Africans on this forum

Nobody configures cargo pod on Beechcraft 350i ER, manufacturer builds it with radar dome. Olodo Soja

Nigeria bought a special mission version of Beechcraft called 350i ER....

"Acquisition of Hawker Beechcraft King Air 350, Special Installations, Certification, Importation, Training of Personnel, Operations Support for Special Mission on behalf of the Federal Government of Nigeria."

http://www.africacontracts.com/index.php/profile-projects

"On June 13, 2005, Beechcraft announced at the Paris Air Show that it was developing the King Air 350ER version. Changes include provision for surveillance equipment in a belly pod, the landing gear to handle the increased weight and provide ground clearance for the belly pod, and extra fuel capacity in the engine to increase range"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Super_King_Air#Super_King_Air_300.2F350

See photo 1 for labelled diagram drawn for retaards like you South Africans

See photo 2 for Nigerian Beechcraft 350i ER with radar pod underbelly, they came in 2012

See photo 3 for the Nigerian Beechcraft 350i version that is transport only with NO radar pod under belly, they came in 2014

http://www.african-defense.com/?p=6682

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South African, bow to your ISTAR master Nigeria, and k.iss the sole of her canvas shoes

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zaandrew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAS_39_Gripen

In 1979, the Swedish government began development studies for an aircraft capable of fighter, attack and reconnaissance missions to replace the Saab 35 Draken and 37 Viggen. A new design from Saab was selected and developed as the JAS 39,

Dude, Sweden does not depend on Gripen jets for ISTAR, they have Saab 340 called S 100B aircraft for that...

"In July 2006, Saab was awarded a contract to upgrade two of the Swedish Air Force's S 100B aircraft for surveillance missions and for deployment in multi-national operations. The upgraded Saab 340 AEW-300 aircraft, are planned to enter service by 2009."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_340_AEW%26C

Also, Sweden has Gulfstream G-IV SP aircraft for SIGNIT.

Your South African air force must be 66 years behind the world for you to be calling Gripen jet fighter your fvcking ISTAR aircraft.

British air force did not list Eurofighter Typhoon swing-role jet fighter with powerful radar and special functions including Search Modes - Ground Map, High Resolution Map, Ground Moving Target Identification and Sea Surface Search and Track While Scan capabilities, as their real reconnaissance or ISTAR aircraft despite the fact that Typhoon can do better recce than your tiny toy Gripens.

See what sensible countries call ISTAR aircraft..... http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/istarandcistar.cfm

South African air force is 166 years behind Nigeria, you have zero ISTAR aircraft and zero ELINT aircraft.

SANDF-SAAF is an over-rated over-bloated balloon, when I pin you with needle now, you go burst

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zaandrew: again they where built to be recon aircraft from the grounds up. Most of the recon in Angola in the late 80s was done by jets.

Part of the reason why you did not win the war. Your jets were reconnaissance failures.

Anyway, SAAF did very very few air recce because your pilots were afraid of Cuban MiG-23 when your Mirages were fully armed for combat not to talk of when they are equipped for recce....and your other jets would not venture to any place where Cuban MiG jets will eat them for dinner.

Msauza: FOR YOUR INFO NO NIGERIAN GENERAL WILL COMMAND SA CONTINGENT UNDER THE UMBRELA OF AU.

That means South Africa will be kicked out of AU Contingent, you either bend and bow to Nigerian General, or AU will break your pride

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigerian-general-appointed-au-standby-force-chief-of-staff/

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patches689: Our Gripen do border patrol - we have the pods that allow us to do just that. ISTAR as well.

No wonder SAAF failed in the anti-Rhino poachers campaign, Gripen jet flying at 1,500 km/hr with recce pods at low altitude, once Poachers hear the thunder of supersonic jet engine noise, they hide under the trees, Gripen jet flies past in air show parade fashion....mission failed...zero ISTAR...Soweto mumus

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zaandrew: Those are countries, I mean from where aka EX USMC, Boeing, extra

That was posted here many times, should I repeat it again with photos and sources? Boeing helicopters from US marines/navy/coast guard. It's from that pool. You have memory loss...or brain Ebola?

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patches689: Nigerians treat cowards as hero's

If Lt.Col Agu is a cowards like South African soldiers, he would have deserted the army when he escaped from enemy battalions in civilian clothes.

That man is quality material for the operations of recce behind enemy lines, master of disguise.

African James Bond Lt.Col Agu returned back to base after defeating all Boko Haram traps, he rejoined his unit and is now giving intelligence report of Boko Haram forces' location and numbers that he saw.

Shekau got beaten by a Nigerian brain walking through his whole battalion of criminals

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zaandrew: That is not a blog, that is people giving there opion on a article. Many news sits give the option.

Show us the technical difference between Beegeagle and DefenceWeb to prove that both are not blogs.
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Thiza: SUDANESE WOMEN WHO HAVE BALLS THAN THE NIGERIAN COLONEL

Wow ! Over 5,000 of those same Sudanese women were mass R.aped by Janjahweed militia in front of their husbands from town to town in broad daylight. Sure those women didn't have any balls than Nigerian Colonel then, or did they?

When the mass R.ape of these Sudanese women was too much for Nigeria to tolerate, Obasanjo forced the AU to grant Nigerian army right to send our first infantry platoons there to save them and we went there like heroes and warriors, first combat authorized African soldiers to enter Sudan.

South Africa that has no balls in their army was watching the mass R.ape happen daily and pretended they don't hear news or know what is called African Union.

Nigerian army landed in Sudan, we stopped the supporter of APC militia half-Arabs from R.aping our fellow black Sudanese women and k.illing their husbands in Rwanda style genocide. Then the government of Sudan got angry and sent their army mixed with Janjahweed battalions to attack Nigerian army camp in the dark night in a surprise unprovoked attack on a peace keeping force.

Nigerian army outnumbered, General Agwai refused to surrender, ordered our boys to fight to death of the last man standing. Our soldiers died, but the Sudanese militia could not penetrate our base. Nigeria won the battle despite being outnumbered.

Do you wonder why AU chose Nigerian army General Golah to command all African armies including ball-less and bone-less South African army under AU forces from 2015 ? Go ask the AU high command, I have given you the reason in this post .

When South African army base was attacked in Bangui by Seleka rebels, SANDF surrendered and raised white flag. When Nigerian army base was attacked in Sudan, fought Sudanese supporter of APC rebels till we got victory.

SANDF refused to go back to Seleka for a fight since 2013 till today. Nigeria sent more troops to Sudan after the night attack to tell Sudan that we are ready to come to fight and d.ie to save our black Sudanese brothers and sisters from the R.ape and M.urder of half Arabs.

There are about dozens of widows and fatherless children in Nigeria today because their daddy traveled 1,000 km away from home to save the lives of those same Sudanese women you say have balls than the Nigerian who died fighting for them.

Where was South African army at that time of mass R.ape and mass M.urder-Genocide in Sudan?

At home, Soweto, fvcking wives and girlfriends.

Cowards !
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patches689: Cool.

We got 26 Gripen, 10 DAK's and 11 Cessna 208s, 4 Super Lynx, operational drones, subs and frigates and sattelites

We got surveillance coming out of our arse

Gripen is a jet fighter. Dakotas include ordinary transports and the MPA has no radar. Cessna includes ordinary transports and their EW has no radar. Super Lynx are ocean ship carried helicopters and won't save your army on land. Your drones have no radar and cannot work like aeroplane. Frigates and Submarines are useless to your army unless your soldiers are imprisoned inside harbor dry dock. Satellite is a luxury South Africa does not have.

patches689: We got surveillance coming out of our arse

No, you got bucket loads of poooh poooh coming out of your B.ottom

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zaandrew: That is not a blog, that is people giving there opion on a article. Many news sits give the option.

DefenceWeb is a blog, try prove me wrong with definition of a blog from dictionary.

There are many websites that are actually blogs but don't call themselves by that name.

Beegeagle is a more reliable blog than DefenceWeb, NOBODY can post comment on Beegeagle without special access pass from the owner Mister Beegeagle himself, he questions you one on one and screens you to know your ability to comment on military matters.

ANYBODY including patients in psychiatric hospitals can post comments on DefenceWeb without being screened.

It took me 2 months screening to be allowed on Beegeagles blog, I have posted on DefenceWeb blog without the owner asking who I am.

Beegeagle is the most intelligent and knowledge exhibiting military blog in Africa.

DefenceWeb is the usual South African copy and paste epidemic worse than Ebola.
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FighterPilot: During the war there are some short term missions you will have to undertake like rescue missions, operations, etc. Unfortunately, it is against this backdrop that your performance will be judged. Yes, it is within this framework that anyone can confidently state that Nigerian army was defeated.

Worse than I thought, your fake BSc military science degree certificate was forged in Togo republic and posted to you by FedEx
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Msauza: How do you expect them to get something if you failed at the first place when things were still tender. So poor girls suffer consistent rapee that would never come to an end. Yep! That's the results of living in a country which is protected by rag tag army.

USA and UK boasted to be world powers capable of doing what Nigerian military cannot do.

They new time had passed, they still boasted to be world champions white men nations 'superior' to black nation Nigeria. They started the mission only to confess after 2 months that it is a hard job and they found NOTHING.

Nigerian ISTAR power = American + British ISTAR power.

That is what those white-military proved with their failure.

What NAF cannot do, USAF plus RAF combined cannot do it.

It was a big promotion for Nigeria on world military ranking !!!

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zaandrew: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35903:is-ghana-becoming-a-piracy-hot-spot&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233


In Nigeria, for instance, the navy and the maritime police need to coordinate their activities and increase collaboration – as demonstrated by the incident of the Histria Coral.

On 23 October 2013, a Nigerian maritime police unit mistook a small boat transporting Nigerian navy personnel for a pirate boat and opened fire on the vessel. Fearing the anger of the navy, the policemen locked themselves into the Histria Coral’s citadel (a safe room designed for crew members to seek protection in the event of an attack) for days before they were arrested.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

That was a police error and NOT military error.

Something 100 times worse happened in South African navy, a world class error. I will post that with nice photos at 7 AM tomorrow morning....payback time !
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FighterPilot: Agaugust is a loser!!! He always tell lies to comfort himself from an embarrassing defeat.

BTW, @Agaugust have you heard that your strong army suffered a major defeat at the hands of Boko haram. Shame!!! I received this news while I was in London. The English even know how weak is your army.

Nobody is defeated in an on-going war. The defeated is only known after a war has ended.

Your BSc military science degree is fake
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Thiza: Funny to boast about the number of survaillance aircrafts in your armour and yet you cannot effectively utilise these resources in your disposal such as locating missing girls....IT TOOK FOREIGN POWERS TO COME TO THE RESCUE OF NIGERIA

The foreign powers found NOTHING and they are leaving in shame, or you read news that USA/UK has rescued Chibok girls since they arrived from overseas two months ago?

http://www.punchng.com/news/we-dont-know-where-chibok-girls-are-us/

Mumu
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zaandrew: https://i0.wp.com/news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Kerala-GoG-2014.jpg?resize=625%2C599

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http://allafrica.com/stories/201202171191.html?mstac=0

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zaandrew: I don't think we ever asked you to help, this is more like angola say "hey Nigeria get your pirates off my back yard"

Nationality of the pirates was not disclosed, pirated ship is Greek owned, piracy took place in Angolan territorial waters, now those are your own SADC pirates, unless Angolan bush war of Cuba vs South Africa was fought on Nigerian territory.

Soweto Imbeciiles.

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