₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
Even if they didn't send the report to the NASS, there is no escape now. The claim has come out of the presidency and the NASS must now deal with it.
The best we can do is to continue to clamour for the Uwais report to be adopted; and believe me, the Nigerian masses are a formidable and conquering force, if only we would stand our ground and say "enough is enough!"

I thank you @Beaf,  I could cuddle you. . . .  LOL

No serious now, mehn, how often I have talked already myself blue in the face.
Nice to find somebody who also thinks so.

And here the suitable song in addition:"You are not alone" by King of Pop     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pFLcN4fYQg&feature=related

Continue only in such a way, maybe it happens
a miracle and even more zeros stand behind the comma, soon.
To dream is allowed, or? 

How does one say. "Little strokes fell big oaks". 

Here some German press comments - I have tried to translate.
Please, be lenient with me.

Giant on clay feet
From Thomas Frankenfeld März in 2010, 06:23

With population  of 160 millions, the 2,5-fold surface of Germany
and huge oil wealth Nigeria is a giant of the future. Theoretically. Since his
varied problems work as if a research team had sketched them for a cynical 
Plan play: scarcely one half of the population Christian, the other
Muslim, both hostile up to the blood, decades of crude tyranny,
a cleptocraticle élite with starving masses, almost unbelievable corruption,
Criminal activity and environmental destruction, a life expectancy of a good 50 years.

Though the mutual massacres of Christians and Muslims also have to act with religion,
primarily, however, with desperation. These are bloody distribution and Survival fights in
a torn multinational state without democratic
Traditions and with a weak government. The mightiest country of West Africa
offers ideal brood relations for Muslim extremism and slipping off in a regionally failed
state.



Jos - the frontier city of the arsonists

In Nigeria Muslims close Jos have killed 500 Christians. However, in the conflict it goes
less about religion, than rather about water and pastureland.

Hamburg / Lagos. There is also hope. About 70 Christians and Muslims met
recently in the north-east of Nigeria. They sat in a conference hall of a small church
in the place Kwarhi, the walls of concrete, the roof from corrugated sheet. Imams and priests
were there, also students and youngsters of both religious directions, it ran
religious songs from a CD player. They consulted on how they together
can prevent that their country is torn along the religion - in a bloody fight for ground, resources and rights.

Since there were dead people again, again it was a massacre. The offenders came at night,
with guns and machetes. Some shouted: "Allahu akbar!" They killed about 500 people.
Predominantly Christians. Nobody knows exact sacrificial figures. It has given 95 arrests.
Some Nigerian media speak of a revenge file. Since only few weeks ago violent riots also
ended between Christian and Muslims with several Hundred dead people, most from them Muslims.

Violence between the religions blazes on since the end of the military dictatorship in 1999 always
again - the tracks of these massacres lead to Jos. In the town, which betrays a lot about, how
religion is abused as a fire accelerator for bloody riots and power in Africa. Half a million people
live in Jos. "After the last riots in January police patrols and the military, there are checkpoints,
on many street corners
at night if is curfew", says Jochen Kirsch. He is a priest of the Protestant church of the Pfalz
and was with the riots in January just for the Christian charitable organisation  mission 21 in
Nigeria.
Christians and Muslims make Jos the frontier city - to a bastion in the middle of the country,
on the border between the Christian south and the Muslim stamped north
of Nigeria where the sharia rules. "Nevertheless, it is no conflict between the religions - and
no religious war", says Kirsch. Religion serves the sharp makers as a pretext for
violence against the other ethnicity. "Behind apparently religious conflicts stands the fight
around political and economic power", says priest Kirsch. The fight for work, ground,
food.
Now three places a little bit outside from Jos were an aim of the attack. There live
predominantly relatives of the Christian Berom-ethnic group. The attackers are according to 
local authorities Muslim Fulani. The Berom are established farmers, the Fulani nomadic
living cattle breeders. The springs of the conflict are waters, pastureland and field. Remains
the economic success fail to come, religious fanatics have an easy play: Scapegoat is
the other group. "Mistrust and bitterness on both sides grow", says Kirsch.
There comes, that the political guidance of the  richest in population state of Africa
was headless and action-incapable for months. The president Umaru Yar'Adua has himself hard
ill set off to Saudi Arabia. Vice president Goodluck Jonathan is meanwhile
new head of state - however, also he could not stabilise the security in the country.
He governs in a time, where in the rich in oil Niger delta  the most important rebel's group
revoked Armistice. In the north of the country influence of radical islamists grows.
Even the terror network al-Qaeda has announced at the beginning of February the islamists
in Jos his support.
Matthias Basedau from GIGA institute of Africa studies holds an end of the massacres for
incredibly. And, nevertheless, he says: "However, I do not count on a national
Civil war."


Osnabrück (ots) - On the powder keg

Quickly the tensions heat up in Nigeria - and the situation is as dangerous as
slightly inflammatory material. However, only superficially is behind the latest massacre
a mainly religiously motivated conflict between Muslims and Christians. This is also wrong
as like the assertion, in Northern Ireland it is about a confessional quarrel between Catholics
and Protestants.
Nomadic cattle breeders against established farmers, locals against immigrants,
competition around water, pastureland and arable land, in addition tribe conflicts:
This are deeper recumbent causes of the flamed up anew  quarrels in the middle of Nigeria,
the state richest in population of Africa. There comes: The government owns currently actually
not the power monopoly. The state is not so capable of acting as it would be necessary - and
the soldiers of the army were not willing or not able, to protect the victims of infringements.

Hence, peace work is asked to stop the hatred and  to prevent fatal, endless chain reaction
of revenge and repayment. And because the politics fails, the religions come into play here
again. Their temperate leaders like the Catholic  Archbishop of Jos, Ignatius Ayau Kaigama,
and the Muslim emir of Wase, Alhaji Haruna Abdullahi, have already demonstrated in
the past, what reconciliation means.

Bravo!! Congratulation!! Well done!!
You surpass yourselves once more.
It is astonishing with which exactness you people serve once again the prejudices
of the uneducated, silly, still living in the Stone Age, blacks. Is this role written on
your body, or what? Or does somebody stand in your birth beside the cradle and say
"Always keep your trap shut and never rebel in your life!"?
Mehn, you have to wake up finally.

The barbarian slaughters of the last months in Jos are cruel, disdain-worthy and
by nothing to excuse. Just as all the other occurences, if it was the Biafra war or if it were
the cruel robberies and and and. The list is endlessly.
Every time you rush at these occurences like the bees on the honey, take them to occasion
to insult each other on the worst, to offend and to threaten instead of denouncing the culprits
for it.
Who has then the power and before all things the duty to avenge these barbarities
and to prevent future barbarities? Who cares then a Poo mud about your life, no matter
if in the south, north, middle belt or where also ever?

While you rush with nice regularity on these things, the government laughs up her sleeve.
Why does the government not intervene then? For what also? As long as you have only
eyes for these things, in the interim the government can make, what she
wants. You hang like puppets on the threads which the government moves. And you do
not note it.

You are strong and also proud if it is a matter of defending your origin, your tribe and
the ideals linked with it. Pride is nothing bad, however, sometimes it prevents progress
or approach. Nairaland is surely not prestigiously for Nigeria, however, I believe just the
anonymity here, lets a lot of people speaking what they really think.
We all can see with how much energy and hardness is fought here often verbally.
This energy and hardness united once used in the aspiration to make Nigeria for everybody
equally successful and worth living - a victory would be sure.
However, if it depends on it, you have all mouth and no trousers.

There is simply no communal thinking for one Nigeria.
Certainly, the independence of Nigeria was chosen quite unhappily.
A compulsive marriage which bride and bridegroom and all relations actually did not want.
The British colonialists knew this only too well and I am sure Nigeria it also knew.
However, instead of saying "you want to see us failing? Forget it!", Nigeria has this certainty
in the heads of the colonialists, up to now confirmed excellently.This should be no reproach
but a simple statement.

One thing just occurs to me which, nevertheless, almost all Nigerians have in common.
These are the never ending beets and hope that God, Allah or however you call him,
may help you. But maybe you have forgotten that God has blest Nigeria already richly
and presents with unbelievable mineral resources, fertile ground, a wonderful scenery and
all which can be wished for a more than happy life. Maybe God still waits that you use these
presents in a manner which pleases him.

Some say, they wish that the Americans would come. Honestly that would be the last
what you should wish. They rub themselves already since a long time the hands with the
thought to march in in Nigeria. However, for what? To bring rest and order? Don't make
me laugh!

The of so many appealed electoral reforms are surely right
and also necessary. But this is not enough. At last everything depends of the voters and the whole
Nigerian people.  Already now and not only in the election day in 2011. What should
make the politicians to think that the Nigerian people does not tolerate their machination
of the last decades this time any more if it does not put loudly and clearly exact demands?
The power and strength for it exists definitely. Once pushed they would get the ball rolling.
The demonstration of the Save Nigeria Group was a good beginning, even if only a few
have taken part in it if one thinks that Lagos is a 15 million Mega City. But it would have
to grow, grow fast, and become louder. And also tomorrow it will be the same as last time.

As I said already "All mouth and no trousers".

ElRazur:
@Eyodad, name this folks please.


@Topic

By the way, I think Nigeria probably signed a pact with God hence why things are hard and messed up. I suppose there is a reward for Nigerians in heaven after they suffer in the world?

On other hand, if we've signed a pact with the devil, we should be like the US and Uk, then we will burn in hell in afterlife. I think I prefer this Devil's option to be honest.   

@ElRazur

I can understand this well.
According to this Nigerian joke http://www.ifunaya.com/jokes.phtml?ac=view&p=p&id=164, some of you Nigerians have prepared quite well in the hell.     

sorry, but just kidding.   

Then I have saved in the last second myself?
citizenY, citizenY, citizenY what you hold me only for?

I am sure, this underexposed i.d.i.o.t will find another terrifying excuse for it.

If one compares the appearance of Goodluck Jonathan as a "rescuer of the nation"
to the appearance of Jesus as a "rescuer of the world", one discovers many resemblances.
Also from Jesus was expected that he proceeds with a thunderclap and warlike means
against the enemies. Instead of this he operated with rest, gentleness, love and patience.

Only to make it clearly. I would on no account like to equate here Goodluck Jonathan with
Jesus, but express only the firm belief that with deliberation, patience and rest is to be reached
much more in the long term.

@poster

Do you not believe, other things are more important and more urgently in Nigeria?
But nothing goes about external prestige, right? Such a nonsense.
I say this as an also foreigner from a developed (how I hate this word) country.

Finally, the western world should stop playing the omniscient and all being able upper teacher.
Things which maybe function in our countries must not be also right for Nigeria or any other
so called undeveloped country.

@becomericch

The German book that you mention has translated the title "Africa's road to the Present".
Nevertheless, it was never translated into English language. Here Jaja of Opobo is
mentioned only briefly. However, the author Herbert Kaufmann wrote already in 1962
a novel biography about Jaja which was translated into English language and is to be
found still today in Nigeria.

The title of this novel biogrphy is
The King's Crocodile. By Herbert Kaufmann. Methuen. 16s. The Niger Delta is the background
for this powerful story of King Jaja who rose from slavery to political power on the Guinea coast.
He ruled in West African town of Opobo from 1870 - 1887 when he was banished to St. Vincent
in the West Indies after controversial trial held under British auspices.
The book deals with magic, withcraft, slave trading and the ceaseless struggle against domination.
Translated from German by Stella Humphries and delightfully illustrated by Ann Linton.

What would be if. . . .  ?

Imagine, you wake up tomorrow morning and it is Nigerias's hour zero.
Nigeria is like a newborn baby. Flawless and reprimand, still simple-minded,
without hatred and prejudices, openly and without any knowledge about falseness,
racism and intrigues. Oh yes, it has united in his genes the qualities of all tribes, equally, in itself.
It is evident that from this baby something great can become, if. . . .



If. . . . , yes, this is the big question.

What do you mean? How could one make this baby something great one?
Which ideas do you have in addition?

Let us here hear your opinion. Expresses your thoughts, for example, about that:

Which laws would you want to change, or completely do remove? Which add anew?

Should the constitution remain in such a way, as is it now?
If not, what would you want to change?

How would a well functioning social system have to look, or isn't it nessecary?

How can workplaces be created?

How can a protection of the basic demands of the population be reached?

How should the health system be reformed?

Which ministry would you abolish and which maybe introduce anew?

With which people would you take the single ministries?

Did a constitutional court would make sense?

How would the educational system have to be built up?


These are only a few examples.
Feel free to express about what ever you think to make this baby growing.
However, please without any kind of apportioning of blame, insults and generalisation.


So, now get rid and awaken the giant of Africa to new life. 

@beaf

Quote from: Beaf on Yesterday at 02:51:38 PM
I have heard this thing too, that it was actually the US that ochestrated the return of Yar Adua from Saudi (with Obama's say so). But to what end?
Their state dept have made a number of pronouncements on Nigeria today, advicing that nobody takes advantage of yar Adua's presence to forment mischief, Iwu should be sacked and thatthey support Jonathans policies. That makes me feel that their actions are more in line with precipitating section 144 (Yar Adua is right here with us, so there's no withholding access to his true state of health), but I can't be sure.
As to the bit about Jonathan, I agree with reservations. His actions will depend on what he knows and his style of keeping his thoughts in the shadows; if this plays against him we will surely remember him very poorly.


Very right! You must add only 1 and 1. What does Nigeria have that the USA would
have with pleasure? Be sure, America does nothing without promising itself an advantage of it.
Notabene, I mean with it the US politics and not the American people.

It is really noteworthy as you retain integrity the humor in spite of all.
Maybe your kind to manage the whole dung?

I believe to me the laughter would have passed under these circumstances long time ago.

@airzzee

Great! I cannot say how grateful I am to you. This is exactly the explanation which I have needed to understand the context.
You are really talented in explaining the Igbo language, because I have understood right away what you mean. 

Again, thank you so much.

@Andre Uweh

No, of course not.
I would also not like it if the name of my language or my people was disfigured.
It is all a case of respect.

@all

I already see, I will have to practice myself in patience and wait until I am in Nigeria.
I thank you all for your well-intentioned advice.
You have persuaded me that it is the best if I begin with learning when I am with the family.

Once again many thanks to you all

@princekevo

I have answered this question already @neily. Read up please.
Of course my husband and the family will teach me the language.
But I would like to have a few knowledge when I arrive.
However, obviously this is difficult.


@airzzee

There is nothing like "Central Igbo." We have "Standard Igbo," which is NOT spoken by anybody

If this is right, my husband does not know his own language. However, I dare to doubt this.
He answered once as I asked that he speaks "Central Igbo".

@slap1

I would really appreciate it. Thank you very much.


@neily

Thanks for your response.
Your question is entitled. My husband is already in Nigeria since some months
and now I follow on. We have tried it about the phone, however, the connection is
mostly quite bad. Yes and with the writing in igbo he also has his difficulties. 


@peacettw

The alphabet I know already, nevertheless, many thanks. Is almost like in German. Only few exceptions.


@feraz

Thank you very much for your help.
Yeah, the pronounciations is the problem.  I have read already about.
Some words have several meanings with different pronounciation. This makes it difficult.


@Okoro2015

Thanks for your response. Okay, the dots are under. It's noted. 
You are very right, they are accomodating people.

Many thanks to you all for your nice answers and offers of help.

I appreciate this really very much. It will be really the best if I take
it relaxed and do not put myself under pressure so much.
If necessary there is still the language with hands and feet, LOL.

But maybe you could explain to me how I greet my mother-in-law in hearty
and affectionate manner. That I am pleased very much to get to know her, finally,
personally, that I am very grateful for the affectionate admission in the family and
that it is to me an honour to be belonged to the family.

This is to me a big demand, because this family is really great.

Many thanks again ,to you all!

@fingard02k

thank you very much. I will do so.

Don't know where to start, my list of what I want to know is toooooooooo long. LOL

ezeagu:
Central Igbo is not too different from Owerri Igbo.

Andre Uweh:
@Ajali
Ezinaihitte are Mbaise people and they speak Mbaise dialect. It is different from Owerri dialect.
Owerri and Mbaise are neighbours and understand each other's dialect.

@ezeagu and @Andre Uweh: Thank you to you both. This gives me a little hope.

@Andre Uweh: Thanks for your response.
With it you are right absolutely. I also know that I will learn it fast when I am there.
Only the thought that we will meet in the first days like dumb fish is disagreeable to me.
Particularly as my mother-in-law virtually speaks no English.

Are there within central igbo still differences?
Speaks not everybody from the area around Owerri, same central igbo?

Many thanks for your quick answer ezeagu.
The family comes from the area around Owerri, more exactly said from Ezinihitte.

Dear nairalanders, I need your help.

I would like to be able to talk already a little to my mother-in-law
when I come to Nigeria at the end of next month. With the fullness of dialects
I have difficulties to find the right thing on the Internet.
I learn languages in general fast, autodidactically as well as by hearing.

I would be really very grateful if somebody could teach me at least basic knowledge
and some everyday phrases, so that I can lead a small conversation.

Many thanks already in advance for your help.

It is completely insignificant in which manner is voted. The correct counting up
of the voices is important solely. For my part, our politicians could also vote with mussels,
however, they do it in such a way:

With "Hammelsprung" ( literally translates „jump of wether“ ), a certain voting procedure
is called in the German Bundestag. As a rule the representative vote by hand sign or rising.
If doubt about the result exists, the "Hammelsprung" is used. In addition the representatives
leave the plenary hall and enter it again by one of three doors which stand in each case for
yes, no or abstention. Secretaries count them, besides, loudly. The name "Hammelsprung"
goes down to an inlaid work picture above a vote door in the old Reichstag building.
The picture showed the blind Polyphem from the Greek legend which counts his wethers under
whose bellies Odysseus had hidden and could flee.

Can Believe Is It True Dat Nigerian Business Tycoon Buys London Gatwick Airport?


Yes of course, why also not? Funny question!

Babies Made To Order – Take Your Pick


Boy or girl? Blue eyes or black? Blonde or brunette? In less than 2 years, would-be parents will be
offered the chance to select traits like the sex, eye, hair and skin colour of their offspring.
A US Clinic, pioneer of IVF (in vitrio fertilisation) in the 70’s, is now offering this service based
on a procedure called pre-implantation genetic diagnosis, or PGD.

How is your opinion in addition?

Such a nonsense, but generalisation seems to be your second first name.
Quite popularly in Nigeria.

Got the same text already on 4th of Feb via yahoo messenger.
I wonder which 2morrow they mean.

This is only a scaremongering.

Ein nettes "Hallo" an euch alle!

Die deutsche Fangemeinde hier wird ja langsam größer.

Deutsch ist meine Muttersprache und ich habe im Unterricht auch gut aufgepasst .
Wer also Hilfe benötigt, herzlich gerne.

I have eaten up to now:
cow and calf, pig, lamb, chicken, turkey, duck, goose, quail, ostrich, frog, rabbit, venison, wild boar, horse, elk, kangaroo, shark, eel, cuttlefish, crawfish, cancer, lobster. monkfish, shrimps and the customary fishes

爱:
i have been dating this girl for 4yrs and really hoped to marry her she was all i had. Now she is telling me that we can not continue with the relationship because her parents do not like igbo boyz. i tried to plead with her but she keeps saying she do not want to do anything to hurt her parents

I'm so hurt and don't know what to do. please help me out.

To tell the truth, to me it seems strange. I mean, after 4 years she tells you that her parents do
not like igbo boys? Has she not known this even then? She do not want to do anything to hurt
her parents? Has she not done this already the last 4 years?
Sorry, but this I cannot understand.

But in any case.
The right one still waits somewhere for you, believe me. Start looking.