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If the sheeples that take bishop Oyedepo, as a honest person, realize how foolish they are, they would impale themselves.

Oyedepo would have proved that he's honest, rational and really possess ant size power, if he had left his wife marooned in his Canaan land, and cure her with olive oil and blood sprinkling infusion.

Oyedepo went delusional, when he reinforced his sheeples indoctrination, when he said;

"can you imagine Jesus lying on hospital bed"?

Joagbaje:
For those who had been doubting the potency of Gods healing power. watch this live miracle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtx4VI4D2y8

This charade was done, courtesy of prophet Jeremiah ( A. K. A the forensic prophet), in warri.

The guy is very familiar con artist. OP, don't push this one. Just stay with your more sophisticated grand con artist, in the person of Oyakhilome.

Joagbaje:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtx4VI4D2y8

Simple question to all Christians who subscribe to miracle.

*in all your years of attending crusades, have you seen a -

*completely blind man
* amputee
*polio crippled
*complete deaf and dumb

THAT YOU KNOW PERSONALLY, AS A MEMBER OF YOUR COMMUNITY OR CHURCH, BEFORE THE CRUSADE,


THAT GOT HEALED?

LiberaDeus:
Bros because of this guy, if i ever go hospital, i go ask the doctor whether in dey use nairaland and the name of his moniker.

This guy go forget caliper for your belle. The guy is a disgrace

I have just done a retrospective check on this felixomoron, it turns out that his moniker, is the most (with extremely significant difference) called the following:

*idiot
*foolish
*moronn
*dull
*retardd
*ignorant
*fake medic
*liar

He's so shameless, that he never admit his 100% confirmed idiocy.

DK Odukoya, is the most dangerous and hideous influence, on the human society, from the religious sphere.

Odukoya' morbid suspicion of virtually everything as demonic, as pushed into the head of his followers, via his ubiquitous books, bulletin and cds, is subtle and deceptive priming, which morph into the following:

*cruelty of victimizing and dehumanizing innocent children, because of the delusionary claim, of suspicion of witchcraft.

*aged women are also not spared, of the delusionary behavior.

*most MFM members, are so deeply filled with hate, for anyone that bullish and BS their delusionary claims, of inexistent witches.

felixomor:
What else could it mean?
Oh so you make empty conclusions?
Moo Moo Again


Who told u are intelligent?




Stop trying to justify empty "conclusions"
This is Science, it is a stupid thing to do.



Keep quiet, agabaya
You just exposed yourself that u made empty conclusions.
And u r still making mouth.?
Mscheww

Of course, when felixomoron defines what science is.

Your fellow medics, who equally work in mysterious ways here, do have their badly designed works, published in local markets journals.

felixomor:
YOU WERE THE ONE WHO JUST POSTED YOUR "CONCLUSIONS"
You are the same person asking me questions....

Cant u see your foolishness?

I'm not surprised at your limited thinking capability. My use of " conclusion", obviously meant to you, that it must have come out from a research endeavor.

Here's how intelligent folks think.

A conclusion can be made about an idea, that has an obvious and inherent exclusion features. While a research is being designed.

In your thinking, you'll certainly include robotic male, as causative agent, in fertilization research.

felixomor:
Your vituperations just keep worsening
Which experiment did you use for your conclusion?

You still cant see the point. Moomoo

There's no other way to describe a charlatan, who claimed to be a medic, yet subscribing to prayer, as an explanation for revitalization of a clinically certified dead body (albeit in the face it, been a ruled out causative).

What experiments established prayer as a causative?

bennyann:
This is not about sentiment bro. What's unknown and especially what you don't believe in shouldn't be talked about with so much authority. Is it reasonable in science to say what's 'unknown' has no probability of occurence in the happenings of events?

You didn't even go by the rules of science when concluding, all because it is an issue you want to go all out against.

I would say it's still a scientific theory and you have no right whatsoever to conclude what you know not about. It's better, logical and more scientific when you still leave it in the archives of the unknown till you find the answers to all the unknowns or better still give some credit to it like you did with the rest.

That's what I was referring to. You see yourself? Anyway I wasn't expecting otherwise since you have no God.

I should then say here, that it's the religious that are actually open-minded. They give a bit of acknowledgment to other issues but here, you're so close minded to anything relating to God, so you're not in the best position to conclude. As a matter of fact that's your opinion. When it comes to issues like this those who are very sentimental about their belief system are not allowed to carry out results and you know why.


yeye, is this all you could come up with? How you take enter here now?


When science or medical bodies give up on a patient having a particular issue but the patient eventually turned up healthy and sound without medical explanations. Well, that's also a coincidence right?

But it would no longer be a coincidence when they start experimenting on the healed patient to find out how and why she survived even after she has told them it was God. That's when they will remember there's a scientific explanation to why the patient survived. To you, that's when you say it's not a coincidence right? Who are we deceiving?

You couldn't work on someone and you gave up. the person survived which shocked you and told you it was God. Then you who gave up on her because you know her case was a lost cause will now start giving her scientific reasons why she MIGHT have survived. The one who went through all the sufferings and pains, is so foolish and so in the mood of a joke to tell you it was God right?

Whatever you say for this can be smacked down by the other and this is where we have to think, Like use our heads..

Just as you've seen two medical persons here in the monikers, spacetacular and CatfishBilly but both of them are on the different sides of the divide. That should tell us something..

Anyway,

Just as there are rules, procedures and strategies to be followed during surgeries, same is applied to prayers.

So in reply to the robot statement, do you expect to make babies when you've not known your wife? (aside going for artificial insemination and the likes) These are two living things ooo.

Grow up by being fair, then you will stop using handsome robots to support unanswered prayers. That trend is still so partial.



Don't thank yourself yet. It isn't over until it's over.

Hmmmm..... Sister benny Hinn.. Oh sorry bennyann,

Never knew you have capacity for lengthy rebuttal. Kikikikikikiki... Never say never for me there.

In all, your prayers CAN'T revitalize a clinically certified dead body.

That's the conclusion of the whole matter.

Any objection from you?

felixomor:
Keep quiet, mental patient
Why are u having flight of ideas?

Nobody is talking epilepsy here nor discussing religion

Your Logic is Stupid! Period!

Now your sleeping brain is jolted awake.. Kikikikikikiki

Since you and your illusionary "everybody" are horrible combination of cowards, Hypocrites and internal Dunning Kruger subjects, a precursor of your predicament was needed.

My conclusion is simple.

Prayer CAN'T revitalize a clinically certified dead body.

If any of your "everybody" can disprove this, shove them forward!

bennyann:
This my people sef

They're my pet names or short form of my names combined. Benny Hinn wasn't the inspiration at all

Brother Akin

Isorite

felixomor:
Cant you see everybody is highlighting exactly what I told you about your points yesterday?

When many people keep spotting something foolish about a post, its time to rethink

Your quackery and difficulties are remarkable.

Because you bunch (Christians) claimed that epilepsy is demonic phenomenon, the first neuroscientist who contended that should have submitted to Christian idiocy, in your distorted thinking.

bennyann:
Your post is so bias.

It appears you folks now subconsciously understand that word "bias", to mean every other thing, except its meaning, when analyzing data.

The knowledge of statistics has no place for sentiment, your research design and methodology must meet the standard, otherwise, the data are useless.

bennyann:
Like seriously? All your questions and answers made sense until you got to the last one and do you know why? Because you made it look absolute, like 100%, like generally it can never be while the others you gave them hope....

*yes 100% sure that prayer CAN'T revitalize dead body.

Because i know what prayer is 100%.

Do you hope that a handsome robot, will ever propose marriage to a born again sister?

bennyann:
Then when you got to prayers, you generalized it in an absolute way.

Prayer don't work, it has never worked. Whatever incidence that chanced on prayer, is a coincidence.

bennyann:
Take am easy now... Must you defend to that extent?
Let your heart still be intact ooo

You can say that, but a victim of religious charade, have me to thank.

bennyann:
Your post is so bias. Like seriously? All your questions and answers made sense until you got to the last one and do you know why? Because you made it look absolute, like 100%, like generally it can never be while the others you gave them hope....

When you check within you with this way of write up, you yourself will know you were so partial. That alone speaks volumes.

1. Do we yet
2 . is there a 100%
3.... Based on present level
4. Do we have absolute
5. Is... part of

Then when you got to prayers, you generalized it in an absolute way.

Take am easy now... Must you defend to that extent?
Let your heart still be intact ooo

Sister bennyann,

It's been skipping my present attention for a while now, i had been itching to ask the "revelation" behind your moniker.

* are you a follower of Benny Hinn?
* or you're fascinated by Benny's robotic idiosyncrasies?

OP,

The thread and Pst Wellman, are obviously bereft of wellness, where it matters most.

spacetacular:
You are the one making mockery of everything you have said. Let me rephrase your question in a way you might understand.

How do you probe into a revitalization of the dead without medical assistance after being medically certified as dead?

You see it works both ways which is why I urged that you would have said "I don't know" and not your emphatic no.

You're obviously having difficulty, in attending this discussion with sufficient attention span.

My response was to your "probable" spiritual (prayer) intervention, revitalizing a dead body.

How can you claim it's probable (Scientifically speaking), when such claimed dead, was not so certified by scientific procedure, before your claimed prayers, that revitalized the dead.

Isn't ridiculous to be attempting to educate me, when you're tending to being a charlatan here?

spacetacular:
Your answer should have been "I don't know" and not an emphatic no. That's when you would have made sense sir Especially when medical assistance was not available when spirituality was applied with probable results.

You are the one making mockery of scientific reasoning here.

Basic knowledge of controlled experiment, should have guided your understanding of my post.

"probable results"?

*How do you probe into a death, that was CLAIMED to be revitalized, when such death was not medically certified FIRST, before the prayer?

spacetacular:
Your statement here is not an answer sir. I asked how you could be emphatic with an answer when you even termed your observation as unknown.

You cannot offer a leaning conclusion on an issue that is inconclusive and unknown by and to everyone. That's gross dishonesty in observation sir.

6. Could words (prayer), be responsible for the unknown? No

Unknown = certain revitalized dead.

Could prayer be the reason? No

Why?

* certain revitalized dead, had occurred without prayer

So, prayer couldn't have been the cause of the unknown.

felixomor:
Oh so people can practice what they dont know its origin and expect it to work?

Hian
Hmmmm

You have never made sense in any discussion. Be it religious or scientific thread. The fact that you lied unashamed, makes your case nauseating.

You alleged, yet you can't prove it.

felixomor:
Gerrarahia abeg
Thank God another person has even showed u sef.

You thought you could carry out the hog wash, you perch on at the outset of this thread?

Now that you can't defend your foolish accusations, you have resulted to your usual tantrums.

felixomor:
Even in the bible. Did prayer revitalize everything?
Does prayer not have terms and conditions?

This was not addressed to you. This your straying, is a symptom of been childish.

Who cares about what your Bible says about prayer.

felixomor:
Why will it make sense to u?

Please explain how points 4 and 5 co-exist?

Do you have to always assume, that you're sensible?

You're the one alleging contradictions, you will be making rational sense, if you explain how 4 contradict 5.

spacetacular:
Your thesis sir is quite contradictory. Since you term number 6 as unknown how then can you be emphatic with your conclusion regarding prayer especially when Medicine is baffled by it?

If you read the OP well, it's stated that, there were other revitalized dead, who were never prayed for.

Again, there were dead (decapitated, disembowelled etc), that never revitalize despite ocean volume of prayers and fasting.

felixomor:
You cant be unsure of something and totally rule out the possibility of another mutually exclusive event, at the same time.
Its simple Logic

You're not making any sense still.

I numbered those points, quote the very numbers that are contradictory.

felixomor:
Your points are contradicting each other

You will be making sense, if you point out the contradictions.

The crux

1. do we yet understand the human physiology absolutely? No

2. is there a 100% (absolute) medical procedure, by which death can be certified, in ALL cases of death suspicion? No

3. can we have a case of revitalization, after death has been certified, based on present level of medical procedures? Yes

4. do we have absolute medical explanation, for the rare cases of revitalized dead? No

5. Is whatever responsible for the revitalization, part of physiology of the dead? Yes

6. Could words (prayer), be responsible for the unknown? No

7. Therefore, "miraculous revitalization" is a religious assumption for the unknown.

Christians must not visit embassy. God gives visas.

sarrki:
No words can adequately describe such utter gross foolishness masquerading as Man Of God...

Sulieman is just enjoying the benefits derivable, from religious idiocy of many people.

thesicilian:
By your fruits are you known.
If you pose as an expert in any field to give misleading information to a very gullible public, the onus lies on the real professionals in that field to correct such misinformation.
And when it comes to human lives especially, there's very little room for personal opinion.

What's professional, in assuming that the poser is lab tech?

DESTINY41:
Please can you hook me up with the trado med. Healer
My granny is down with stroke .its not been easy with her

Depending on the severity and phase of the stroke, expect one of the following:

*complete recovery
*moderate recovery
*mild recovery
*death

Whatever level of recovery achieved, through medical rehabilitation, after six months, is most likely to be the optimal functional ability achievable.

Don't waste your money and emotion on charlatans.

greggng:
Recently a friend suffered similar fate but his own was called stroke left hand and left leg paralysed. we took him to a ct scan and nothing was found in his brain. The hospital referred us to lagos state teaching hospital. I wept when I saw the condition of the hospital. As we are waiting for our turn, a woman just approached me to ask if this is stroke and I said yes. She question why I ve to come to hospital instead of visitng a trado medical healer. At the end she recommended one to us and to God be the glory the young man is working now. Is a terrible illness that won't allow u do anything except with the help of others. I will suggest u seek trado medical help for ur man

It depends on the severity of the stroke

*some stroke will resolve, with or without treatment

Many have got their case complicated or died, at tradomedical homes.

Stroke (CVA) is a mere medical condition.

It's not "spiritual attack"

Ignorance kills!