felixomor: Well, At least I took oath Just like every other
didn't your Bible command you not to take an oath?
Matthew 5:33 Again, you have heard that it has been said by them of old time, You shall not forswear yourself, but shall perform to the Lord your oaths:
Matthew 5:34 But I say to you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Matthew 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Matthew 5:36 Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black.
Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil.
felixomor: But as for u, Nothing is more dangerous than a doctor who took no oath.
A dangerous doctor is the one, who's united in mind and under the controll of an Idol, that works in mysterious ways.
felixomor: You pretended to do so because of the evil and greed in your heart.
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Evil and greed?
What's the connection?
I still insist, you graduated from "oko oloyun herbal healing center ".
And you swore the oath with Sango and Ogun emblems.
The religious folks, especially the type parading their anachronistic and suicidal thinking on this thread, are a repulsive studies in idiocy and grand delusion.
*they will fast and pray to be healed of diseases, yet they claim diseases glorify the power of the their skydaddy.
* they fast and pray against death, yet they claim death is glorious.
*they claim heaven is bliss, yet they place curses upandan against imaginary enemies, they claim are after their lives.
*no group of religious folks fear death like the Christians.
Farmerforlife: Did you post the methodology, parameters, sample size, or other actual evidence? Was the study peer reviewed? Would you have accepted this particular study if it had shown the opposite, that religious people are more intelligent than atheists? Apply your objective mind to how you would have rejected it in that case, and merely look at it from that angle.
I notice that atheists throw out their self-vaunted objectivity and love for cutting evidence the moment that they see something that they really want to believe. The onus is on you to prove that the study is scientifically sound, because from what I read after a google search, it is just one of those a dozen a penny assertions. Let us have the full text of the research please.
Subjecting these studies to the stringent measures of the scientific works, will drag this debate to the analysis that will not be of any benefit to the audience.
But here's the thrust of the study;
Are the religious folks more INTELLIGENTLY adapted to life experiences than the atheists?
Farmerforlife: Did you post the methodology, parameters, sample size, or other actual evidence? Was the study peer reviewed? Would you have accepted this particular study if it had shown the opposite, that religious people are more intelligent than atheists? Apply your objective mind to how you would have rejected it in that case, and merely look at it from that angle.
I notice that atheists throw out their self-vaunted objectivity and love for cutting evidence the moment that they see something that they really want to believe. The onus is on you to prove that the study is scientifically sound, because from what I read after a google search, it is just one of those a dozen a penny assertions. Let us have the full text of the research please.
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CatfishBilly: Sometimes, I wonder if you're really a medic. This is my 2nd time interacting with you on a thread and you ask the most mind boggling questions when it comes to health. The most epic if them all was you asking me the names of the 3 patients that were the burden of proof to confirm that Zika virus is an STD.
This folk most likely belongs to the class of medics that works in "mysterious" ways.
That's how their mysterious skydaddy "healed", in the mythological documentation of the buy-bull.
Watch Out for his infantile tantrum, he hopes to derail this thread. Little fox that spoils the vine!
EconceptsGlobal: After a hectic day in the office. For the first time in a longtime, I decided to board the bus (El-rufai) today. It was quite unfortunate for me as the lunatic in the video walked straight to the side of my seat and decided to make it his pulpit for the journey from Wuse to Nyanya. He was shouting on top of his voice to the extent that I couldn't make nor receive calls. Not only that, his saliva was splashing on me at intervals.
My only offence was to ask him to lower his voice for a while or move further a little so that I could answer an incoming call on my phone. The next thing was rumbles of insults and dirty hurling from the man and some gullible idiots around. Threatening to lynch me for daring to ask the random man to lower his voice or move further a bit. The man threaten to throw me off the bus as he is untouchable. And even some other illiterates offered to help him too. Seat wey I pay for o...
I tried to call the attention of the driver to this incident, but he seemed to be on the same page with the rest.
I don't know if right infringement is a normal thing on those buses in recent times.
urheme: there is divine healing and divine health.....i practice divine health.....it does not mean i don't fall sick......it faze out without drugs.....that is my faith.
divine health and healing should be according to what your faith can carry.......it is not for everybody....christians and non christians practice it......
what's the meaning of "divine healing" and "divine health"?
felixomor: Of course, its no longer news that many young people like Seun who profess to be "atheists" call young Christians and even other religious people all sorts of names.
One of the most striking of these tags is "gullible" And if you go ahead to ask them why they make this claim, they tell you that Christians are mentally weak and as result dont use their brain.
So we decided to throw a challenge to a man who said Christians are mentally weak so he could prove himself.
We told him to live the life of a Christian for 1 week While a Christian would live the life of an atheist for 1 week. This lifestyle was to include, Fasting and Prayer, studying books on faith and studying the bible.
Unfortunately, after 3 days, the atheist man gave up. He confessed the life of a Christian was not easy.
Meanwhile the Christian continued to live the life of the atheist which was really very easy.
The lifestyle of the atheist Was very simple. It included; Spending countless hours on social media, watching pornography and taking alcohol.
Indeed the life of the atheist was very simple to live.
Having read this, Now tell me
Who is really Mentally weak?
The young Christian or the Lazy Atheist?
Awaiting answers.
If Seun says that the trademark of religious folks is being gullible, what more evidence than a thread that's premised on religious intoxication.
CatfishBilly: Case number 10 We had to admit a baby girl, she was given birth to prematurely (7 months gestation), her case was a bad one and we told the parents the prognosis, but this little girl fought on. She exceeded our expectations and everyone in that unit got attached to her emotionally, then she got worse, nothing seemed to be working. The parents have spent a ton of money by this time, so, we were all really rooting for this girl to make it, we held prayers, got a mantle blessed by Bishop Oyedepo, prayed and prayed, she eventually died. Our prayers and Bishop Oyedepo's mantle weren't worth a damn, apparently.
I particularly have sympathy for the folks, who still take this Canaan man gimmicks seriously.
He has a wife who's seriously ill, yet his claims of "supernatural healing power" has not changed anything about the wife's condition.
The true liberation from life challenges, are reasonable thinking and actions.
AreaFada2: DM patients are having serious complications like retinopathy leading to visual impairment/blindness, neuropathy causing sores & amputations, nephropathy leading to kidney damage that would require dialysis/transplant, etc
A visit to the surgical wards, will give robust evidence to this.
Most of the folks there are bound in pains of DM ulcers. 70% will eventually die within months. About 10% will have amputation done (most of them don't survive it for long, because of severe depression that sets in).
The pains and death that these folks do experience, is strongly connected to late presentation at the hospital.
At the diagnosis of the DM, they disappear from the clinic attendance, and start seeking spiritual healing upandan. When the ulcers start, the spiritualist calls the ulcer a spiritual arrows from imaginary enemies.
This is one of the evil inherent in religious beliefs.
Thawarplay: But yall Doctor who you epp? As long as you still unable to find cure for SCD. Even if I want to admit that prayers can't epp. What about science?
Medication is doing a great job in the life of the SCD folks.
Health education is preventing folks from becoming victims of SCD.
Bone marrow transplant is the latest intervention, with curative effects.
ApostleT: You actually have more problems than I thought because you sound more like the gullible here. I should not reply you because of your insensitivity but then lest you glory in your folly. Ever had of sudden death?
It's in the character of most Christians to display crass ignorance and yet glorify in such idiocy.
Sudden death is secondary mostly to heart conditions, which could also be secondary to badly managed hypertension.
Your wife had most likely gone through this path.
ApostleT: When my wife died the pathologists report concluded "natural death, unpredictable and unpreventable" There was no sign and the Prof told us it's just unfortunate where this developed. It kills suddenly.
You simply don't understand this report on your wife. This conclusion was based on the time from which you brought her in.
The condition could have been predictable and preventable, if she had presented at an earlier stage of whatever it was.
Stop denying, rebuking and rejecting signs of illness, in the name of Bible illusion. It spells needless pain and lost.
ApostleT: Anyone can be religious but few are Christians. It is clear you don't know Christ but you know the religion i.e doing things because you are told but having no conviction of why you are doing it.
Semantics. Christianity is a religion. It's called Christian religion.
ApostleT: You still don't understand death from a Christian perspective. I lost my wife at a very young age to something that could easily be cured medically but there was no symptom for us to know she was suffering with this condition until post-mortem showed the cause of death. Did we pray? yes we did, despite one of the best medical cares in the world, she was gone within an hour. It was like a system shutting down. It was like a massive heart attack and that's what everyone (- paramedics, air ambulance crew, etc) treated but it was just the symptom of the final stage.
Stop misleading the simple and the gullible.
Medically speaking, no disease that's capable of progressing to death within days, will not have signalled A DISTURBING SIGN.
What used to happen to you religious folks, is to IGNORE , REJECT and REBUKE such signs. Claiming you're strong when you're dying.
I speak from my experiences with religious folks.
Again, am very familiar with Christian religion, my first over 27 years of life ideologies were sphered in that religion. Until i dump the childish gist of the Christian doctrine, i have always found the idiocy in embracing the illusions of the Bible doctrines, as the most repulsive thing.
There's nothing virtuous in death that's secondary to idiocy.
Michaelroyals: Yes prayer changes alot of situations and it makes great impact and difference. It was in my case wen i was very sick in my adolescent time. I was injected wrongly n bcame parralysed. I was booked 4 opperation due to my heavy swolen bottock, but instead d doctor postponed d opperation because he observed dat swelling was still full of blood n has not yet turned purse. And i was in constant serious pain, I cant seat nor sleep. I missed a term plus in sch. But dat day dat d doctor told us to go back home, my parents prayed fervently in d mid night because they cannot bear d pains i wea going through. Lo and behold dat night d pain dissapeared n d swelling started going down gradually untill my led returned to d normal size as d other. No more hospital no more opperation. My dear pple, GOD answers prayers till 2day.
You're a joker. Your ignorance of the pathophysiology of what happened to you, made you hug the illusion of prayer.
Your abscess got ripened, gradually released the pus and your pain eased. You know why? The pain causing substances in your buttock got driven out with the release of the pus.
Again, Can you come up with something worth evidence, that prayer influenced?
Death is one of the most dreaded thing. It creates a real vacuum in people life and has someone who recently lost a loved one I can understand the feeling of the poor woman. But I cannot understand your own journey.
For a Christian to die is a gain. The Christian views death from two perspective. Firstly from his/own perspective and secondly from the perspective of God/the deceased saint.
The mother certainly does not want her child to die nor did I want my loved one who recently passed away to die. I would do anything possible to save her life if I could. The one who had lost a loved one is often devastated. It's a real feeling and beyond feeling a reality.
But the one who is deceased has gone home - being welcomed into paradise (a better place than here). God in His sovereignty has welcomed the child - freed him from his pain and the stress of this world.
We are often selfish in our request. We only want to have our loved ones to ourselves but we rarely ask ourselves if our loved ones who had passed away really want to come back to this miserable world?
I think OP's one sided view of death has set him on a path of destruction (forgive my use of word). Death is not a end in itself because we (saints) know that all our brethren who had gone will return and together we shall have an incorruptible body - never to die again. Hallelujah!
OP are you more compassionate than God? Do you love humanity than it's creator?
but the question is - must you get killed or kill an innocent child, because of the illusion of prayer that changes nothing?
In the event that you complicate your health conditions, because you relied on prayer, instead of Medicare, you burden your relatives who have their lives to live. That's act of willful wickedness.
In the event that you get killed because you chose to drink olive oil, instead of medications. You then live behind wife and children who will suffer, because a deluded father messed them up.