₦airaland Forum

mrksquare:
People that have one vote are endorsing a monumental and calamitous failure for second term. Is it not a child that passes his exam that is promoted to another class?

Even if the entire south endorses Tinubu, I will still not vote for him. The elite should keep endorsing and giving traction to failure as though the votes of the 99% class are in their pocket. We shall see in 2027 how it all pans out.

Tompolo does not control one vote sir, he controls the votes of most parts of Delta Ijaw sir. In the absence of Clark, he is now Ijaw leader in delta alongside Orubebe, Michael johnny and Sen Manager who are all in APC CC tutudesz

Gerrard59:
Three issues here:
- Why the belief that anyone who speaks ill of the present administration is an Igbo person? Are you saying it's only Igbos who can call out the ills of the present government? Others aren't doing the same thing?
- Why do you believe that no Igbo person believes or thinks that Tinubu would win come 2027? I'm one of such persons.
- What has the south south benefitted from being in the centre? It's not like Warri and Calabar ports are functioning or Ibom Port has been approved even after Udom Emmanuel begged Buhari tire.

70% of those against APC government are from SE. Ss are benefitting via the SSDC, Lagos Calabar road, Bodo Bonny road

paramakina202:
If Ben Kalu run against Otti in 2027 his political career is over.If he thinks we can tolerate a Tinubu stooge in Abia state he must be high on something very dangerous to his health.

A Tinubu or OUK stooge

easyfem:
I can see that useless ondo state gov there ….. he is so passionate abt his second time than to stop the killing of his pple by herdsmen

This is his last tenure

Freshtruth:
This guy wise he just wan win 2nd term before e join

Gbam

ElevationD:
There you go again oga. Where is the evidence that he is a Mauritanian? By the way, if he was a Mauritanian, why was he heavily involved in Nigerian elections? Again, we all hear and see daily, people of Nigerian descent, who contest and win elections all over the world. Has their Nigerianness reduced their citizenship of those countries? We law claim to then as our people, but when it is politically expedient, we claim that fellow Nigerians are no longer Nigerian. Presently the man handling the Calabar - Lagos highway is a Lebanese by his skin, but we all know that he is a Nigerian, as he is a citizen and holds a Nigerian passport, even as he has retired to France.

Which of the elections in Nigeria have we witnessed less rigging and vote buying. You supported Buhari, right? Have you forgotten how he famously stated that APC used remote control to get Oyetola into office, even as it was clear that APC was losing after the first counting? If a President could openly admit such a disgraceful act, how were the periods between 2003/07 worse?

When you use the words “Buhari tsunami”, do you want to pretend about the child voters in the north, who contributed to your imaginary tsunami? Even with the disenchantment instigated by APC in 2014, how would PDP have lost, if not for widespread wayo in the north? The same PDP members of the era that you quoted, include a man called Ibori, who has pulled Delta state into the APC fold, to your enjoyment. The same PDP members of the era include Ganduje and the immediate past APC chairman. Or have you not put them into account? Have you asked them to exclude themselves?

My dear, he who comes to equity must do so with clean hands. You must remove dirts in your house before pointing to that of another. Besides, rigging is almost impossible in the north esp by a non northerner. Even obj couldn't rig there...

If we must be honest, there was more rigging under PDP era. You forgot how elections where announced before voting is concluded by Iwu. With the advent of technology in 2011, rigging reduced a bit. The underage voting saga was over exaggerated. How many where there? Where there up to 21 mil? Did it affect buhari total votes? Are you aware there was voter inflation down south. Buhari was popular in core north so you can't question his massive figures. With the advent of bvas and cleaning of the voters register, you can see that voting turnout everywhere has been exposed especially in SS and SE since 2019. That of the north is down but still heavily higher than the south to show you that they vote more...

Yes osun was rigged but not the way pdp used to. PDP usually rig mindlessly by adding mysterious figures and gaping the opposition ridiculously but in osun, APC just prevented PDP voters from coming out to vote. No fake vote was added. I don't see vote buying as rigging as everybody indulges in it and it has been there since 1960, social media is only over hyping it. It is becoming rampant because rigging is becoming more harder...

In summary, the views of Hakeem and others are irrelevant as they opposed Tinubu in 2023. He would still win

ElevationD:
I bet that a lot of you who are shoooking mouth, never knew that name until today.

Unfortunately, I am well grounded in politics, I have known the Mauritanian even before I knew his brother Datti who won via buhari tsunami in 2011 but was cut short by an appeal court. Him being a Mauritanian is another reason he lacks the Locus standi to speak on free and fair elections. Infact, the period between 2003-2007 witnessed the worst elections in Nigeria. Pdp people of that era should exclude themselves from political sanctity

ElevationD:
So Hakeem Ahmed should shut his mouth, while powers in charge should continue rigging elections?

He has no moral right to talk sir. Why didn't he talk then

DesChyko:
I have never seen a party so committed to undermining democracy like the APC has done, just within a few years of existence. It shows that any union that does not prioritize common good, can only do worse.

The NASS just keeps getting weaker and weaker. Even their dream of turning Nigeria into a one-party state is the first sign of a failing democracy. Nigerians have to be serious about making their votes count. If not for our future, for the future of our children.

Pdp undermined the law more

spiSeyi:
What if Atiku & co are planting these ppl as moles in APC bcs these was the game Atiku & Tinubu played on PDP in 2012 and 2014 PDP splitted into factions nah election day GEJ eyes come clear . Ask PDP when they felt like the world revolve around them . 2027 will be game changer in our democracy 2023 was an hint and ppl are now wiser and will do anything to defend their vote. And one thing is certain APC dominance is coming to an end.

These detectors don't like Atiku or El rufai

Eriokanmi:
Lagos and Osun. Rumours had it that ekiti didn't vote him but he rigged it during the time server was shut down by the inec, same with Ondo. The votes obi got in lagos was more than what was declared. They reduced it to size, in likewise rivers. Those in the apc who had left him for coalition talks already knew how it played out. Elrufa,fayrmi,aregbe are among them. They'd ensure every loophole is blocked this time.

Any evidence? Why didn't Ekiti people protest ? Stop talking without evidence

Finquas:
APC is unconsciously setting itself for self destruct... They didn't learn from PDP.. let all strange bed fellows head to APC .. na there de real explosion go rock... So it's a welcome development... we are all heading to APC.. even my dog and Cat for house must be APC card carrying members... We don gather

But if we check well, you are anti APC

tutudesz:
Okpe must complete their 8 years and it was part of the agreement for joining. No APC elected member is losing their seat was part of the agreement too.

But Okowa will snatch senate ticket from Ned. What is the fate of delta south lawmakers like Julius Pondi, Nicholas mutual who are diehard PDP? What of Ejele

tutudesz:
Ibori daughter is going to the Senate. Okowa North, Manager and Others south.
The fight for the party leadership will be a big problem, we have Agege claiming to be the highest political office holder in Delta APC, we Ibori claiming to be the over all God father and we have the Governor.

That's why I said Agege has to move to PDP an Ibori won't have issues fielding him as his ex boy. Erhiatake can't go to senate now, Okpe Urhobo must complete their 8 years. Manager will wait for governorship in 2031 alongside Orubebe while isoko will still hold unto senate via Joel

DeLaRue:
People should understand that no APC Northern Governor going for 2nd term will risk not supporting the President.

Governors will think of their personal interest before any 'Northern' Agenda.

As an APC Governor in the North, it will be too risky to tell voters to vote against APC in the Presidential election, and vote APC in Governorship election.

The Northern PDP Governors that did that against Mr Jonathan were swept away from office alongside Mr Jonathan. Many of them lost power forever.

Current Northern APC Governors going for 2nd term will have learnt from that episode. They will not carry 'Northern Agenda' for head and jeopardise their own interest.

True, what will work for Tinubu up North is that majority of the governors are in their first term and won't risk going against the president

tutudesz:
Okowa has announced he will be joining APC.
So Agege governorship ambition is dead. Orubebe will likely get an ambassador appointment.

I am wondering how sheriff will win delta north and south. Where would Ibori and his daughter be now

Eriokanmi:
Did Jonathan win in the so-called core north? He didn't even bother himself. He focused on the south and middle belt, got a few consolation votes in the core north and defeated buhari and his 12m tribal or call it bloc votes .

Your narrative about tinubu would have been relevant in 2023, not now that everyone knows he has nothing to offer. Or can you mention one single achievement of Tinubu so far? Even those who voted him , thinking he'll walk his talk are backing off. Forget all the waves of defections here and there. Power rests in the hands of the electorate not politicians who are fighting for their pockets. I hope you saw what happened in lagos in 2023. We, same voters are still on ground and nothing can change our mind, except we see magic in Tinubu's government. We don't vote based on emotions or bigotry

Oga, Jonathan could avoid the core north because he got bloc votes in the south and won the north central. When he couldn't replicate this in 2015 he lost. Obi cannot get bloc votes in the south nor win NC so he can't win.

Political victories are determined by the political bigwigs not the electorates in Nigeria. Buhari failed to perform but won reelections. Majority of the politicians are with Tinubu and that's enough .Gej lost because majority of the politicians where against him. The defections matter that is why they are defecting sir. Only a naive fellow would say otherwise.majority of electorates may not be happy with Tinubu but it doesn't mean they would vote against him. Majority of the north will go Tinubu and atiku. Yoruba will still vote Tinubu, SS is divided. A lot of the electorate vote based on sentiments or who their political leaders endorse. In rural CRS, they vote who their leaders tell them and most of them are in APC.
The middle belt usually vote who shows them a sense of belonging or who isn't a radical Muslim and not about performance.
Tinubu lost Lagos by 10k votes because of some yorubas who voted obi and they are now regretting because the SE taunted them. Again, Tinubu will not allow that again. He will also win osun

ALTERNATEID:
PDP no longer exist in the South South. Atiku won’t get 5% of total vote cast in SS.

I agree, Tinubu has collected atiku votes

fergie001:
You seem not to know how they detest Lalong and his boys.

Fubara's transfer has been completed, he is just to sign the contract.

His defection was the best move against Wike. The last piece would be Fintiri and if Akpabio puts pressure, Eno might join. I heard Okowa is going to sdp..

Funny that they hate Along who kept fulanis quiet but like Muftwang who can't handle them

Eriokanmi:
Not true and my opinion. Atiku's votes were never touched cos his brother was the inec chair. Fulani don't do that to each other. Without the server being shut down, obi won the 2023 election. His votes were reduced to size by the apc fraudsters who went and shut down the server.

Again, all odds are against atiku right now and age is one of them. Secondly, a northern fulani man finished his 2 terms less than 2 years ago. I don't like tinubu but for the regional affiliation's sake, I'd vote him for a second term instead of atiku, if Obi isn't presented to fly the coalition flag. I'm sure the majority of the southerners are leaning in same direction. He's a formidable candidate. If atiku can support and work for him to north, he will beat tinubu.

Atiku can win because he can get bloc votes from core north, get good votes in NC, SS. His bloc votes in core north will always surpass obi votes in the south. Obi can't get bloc votes beyond SE. Obi did not win and cannot win against Tinubu or Atiku because he would always perform woefully in core north. Both Tinubu and atiku buried him in core north which surpassed obi votes in SS SE. Tinubu was always going to win him in NC because of kogi, kwara, Niger. Those Christian states like nasarawa, plateau benue don't give bloc votes.. he wasn't rigged out, he actually lost ..
See, not every northerner sees each other's as brothers. Atiku is not a pure Fulani and the real fulanis know. He is not a radical Muslim and is seen as a corrupt Muslim that is why the north don't like or date him.

tutudesz:
Tompolo is not in any political party. Okowa is moving to SDP

Why sdp? I pity Agege and Orubebe. For me sheriff shouldn't have left, he's better off in PDP. Delta is majorly pdp especially north and South

ddippset:
No problem, nothing bad there.

As long as he didn't beg Wike.


At least Wike has been using Tinubu against Fubara.

It's time for Fubara to use Tinubu against Wike.

Sheriff has decamped and it seems fubara will soon

Prince111111:
you people should stop misleading the public please! Who told you Wole is the strongest politician in Osun for Christ sake! We should stop being sycophants for crying out loud. This guy has been there for long and still intending to go again and the party told him to go and contest the primary just tell me what he still wants again? Or perhaps he isn't sure of his popularity again. There are alot of prominent Ijesa politicians just like him. The problem APC is having is how they want to navigate the dicho of zoning because majority of the contestants do not want Osun central to rule again and if anything it's the Eastern part or the west to complete its 2 tenure to balance the political configuration of the state. And just write it down, after the western completes its 2 term, Ife axis is next

You are right but APC doesn't have strong candidates from the west. It's strongest are from central or east. However you see it, oke is strong. APC can field sen Omoworare. But I prefer Akin Ogunbiyi

fergie001:
He dare not. The State is rabidly anti-APC for now.
His heart has left but he is afraid.

Rabidly ? A state APC recently ruled

fergie001:
Nah, when I expected him to leave isn't now.

There's a possibility of muftwang leaving

fergie001:
Fubara would have been the first to defect, the reason Woke asked his lawmakers to block there.

The PDP is gone, so what's he doing there. He will leave.....

PDP still has 10 governors.

fergie001:
Akwa Ibom isn't defecting, he has made that clear.
Fubara will defect.

Fubara can't defect

fergie001:
It's one more.

No, only Fintiri

Britishpea:
He is not coming back except he joins the APC...THEY CAN FEAT the Oluwole Oke if he is loyal...Tinubu needs the state this time....

I think APC can win with Oke

tutudesz:
Lack of political ideology
PDP is dead and nothing can bring it back. My brother Fubara will be joining APC soon, Baysela will be joining soon after Jonathan approval.
RIP PDP
Atiku over to you

Tompolo and okowa nko

Britishpea:
If you know him in Osun state...obokun/oriade fed constituency you wont say this...PDP lost a big wig...However, his performance in the constituency isnt on merit..But he gave nothing less tha 100 jobs... from his personal employment, to federal jobs like the army, civil defence, lecturing jobs and more...

but he didnt help in upgrading his home town Esa OKE...He is going to join the APC i have seen his romance the moment he asked Rauf Aregbesola to go and beg Tinubu..Tinubus henchmen are galvanizing for 2027...by the time he is done, the North wont dare again...

This might cost Adeleke reelection

Eriokanmi:
Tell them. Those defecting must have been hearing the rumours that atiku wants to run again. That man is so useless. If he dares come out, he'll lose again. A mega party that will sack tinubu is coming. There are over 1m facts they can use to unseat him

Atiku has a better chance of winning Tinubu than Obi